Disaster! China's Insane Attempt to Outsmart SpaceX with 185-meter Starship. Musk Laughs... === #alphatech #techalpha #spacex #elonmusk === Disaster! China's Insane Attempt to Outsmart SpaceX with 185-meter Starship. Musk Laughs... Starship is a giant. Just the space inside it for cargo is as big as every pressurized module of the ISS combined. But what if I told you China is building a copy of Starship — with a cargo hold three times that size? Three times. To engineers, even ones at NASA, that sounds almost impossible. And yet China put the numbers out there like a challenge thrown right at SpaceX: we'll copy you, and we'll do it better. So can China really build a rocket larger than Starship? And can something that big even survive the laws of physics? Let's find out. Disaster! China's Insane Attempt to Outsmart SpaceX with 185-meter Starship. Musk Laughs... The story starts in 2011, when China first drew up the Long March 9. And that first version? Honestly, it looked like a Saturn 5 with a Chinese flag on it. Huge, three stages, fly once and dump it in the ocean. A machine straight out of the 1960s. Then Starship showed up, and it turned the entire space world upside down. And China started paying very close attention. So they quietly tore up their blueprint and started over. A few years later, they tore it up again. And here's the strange part: every single time they redrew it, the Long March 9 looked a little more like Starship. By late 2024, when the newest version was rolled out at the Zhuhai Airshow, Western journalists took one look and had a single word for it. Clone. Two stages, fully reusable, thirty methane engines — basically a Starship with a Chinese flag on it. Now, they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. But in the rocket business, it's more than flattery. When your biggest rival throws out ten years of engineering to walk down your path instead, that's not admiration. That's an admission. An admission that SpaceX was right. But hold on. If this were just a copycat story, this video wouldn't exist. Because the newest design — the one that leaked back in June — shows China doesn't just want to copy Starship anymore. They want to build something bigger. A lot bigger. But bigger... how much bigger exactly? Disaster! China's Insane Attempt to Outsmart SpaceX with 185-meter Starship. Musk Laughs... To answer that, let's put these two giants side by side. Starship today stands about 124 meters tall and weighs over 5,000 tons on the launch pad. Those numbers alone make it the largest, most powerful flying machine humans have ever built. Taller than Big Ben. In all of history, nothing that flies has ever beaten it. Not once. Until that June paperwork showed up. Early in June, the government of Hainan province quietly posted a batch of construction documents online. Boring, right? Building permits. But the space community dug through every line — and struck gold. Because it was the paperwork for the Long March 9 factory. And the size of a factory tells you the size of whatever's getting built inside it. You haven't seen the monster yet, but you can look at the cage they're building and figure out how big it's going to be. And what those documents hinted at made people rub their eyes. The future Long March 9 could be a three-stage rocket standing between 165 and 185 meters tall. Sit with that number for a second. 185 meters. Starship at 121 is already a world record — and this thing blows right past it. The Statue of Liberty, pedestal included, is about 93 meters. Which means this version of the Long March 9 is nearly as tall as two Statues of Liberty stacked on top of each other. It's not really a rocket anymore. It's a Manhattan skyscraper that decided to rip itself out of the ground and fly.
China is developing the Long March 9, a massive rocket that aims to surpass SpaceX's Starship in size and capacity. While blueprints suggest a vehicle significantly taller than Starship with a much larger cargo bay, the project faces immense physics challenges and a significant experience gap compared to SpaceX's iterative development.
Starship is a giant.
Just the space inside it for cargo
is as big as every pressurized module of the ISS combined.
But what if I told you China is building a copy of Starship,
with a cargo hold three times that size?
Three times.
To engineers, even ones at NASA,
that sounds almost impossible.
And yet China put the numbers out there
like a challenge thrown right at SpaceX.
We'll copy you, and we'll do it better.
So, can China really build a rocket larger than Starship?
And can something that big even survive the laws of physics?
Let's find out.
The story starts in 2011,
when China first drew up the Long March 9.
And that first version?
Honestly, it looked like a Saturn V with a Chinese flag on it.
Huge. Three stages, fly, once, and dump it in the ocean.
A machine straight out of the 1960s.
Then Starship showed up,
and it turned the entire space world upside down.
And China started paying very close attention.
So they quietly tore up their blueprint and started over.
A few years later, they tore it up again.
And here's the strange part.
Every single time they redrew it,
the Long March 9 looked a little more like Starship.
By late 2024,
when the newest version was rolled out at the Zhuhai Airshow,
Western journalists took one look and had a single word for it.
Clone.
Two stages.
Fully reusable.
30 methane engines.
Basically a Starship with a Chinese flag on it.
Now, they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
But in the rocket business, it's more than flattery.
When your biggest rival throws out 10 years of engineering
to walk down your path instead,
that's not admiration.
That's an admission.
An admission that SpaceX was right.
But, hold on.
If this were just a copycat story,
this video wouldn't exist.
Because the newest design,
the one that leaked back in June,
shows China doesn't just want to copy Starship anymore.
They want to build something bigger.
A lot bigger.
But bigger...
How much bigger, exactly?
To answer that,
let's put these two giants side by side.
Starship today stands about 124 meters tall
and weighs over 5,000 tons on the launch pad.
Those numbers alone make it the largest,
most powerful flying machine humans have ever built.
Taller than Big Ben.
In all of history,
nothing that flies has ever beaten it.
Not once.
Until that June paperwork showed up.
Early in June,
the government of Hainan province
quietly posted a batch of construction documents online.
Boring, right?
Building permits.
But the space community dug through every line.
And struck gold.
Because it was the paperwork for the Long March 9 factory.
And the size of a factory tells you the size
of whatever's getting built inside it.
You haven't seen the monster yet,
but you can look at the cage they're building
and figure out how big it's going to be.
And what those documents hinted at
made people rub their eyes.
The future Long March 9
could be a three-stage rocket
standing between 165 and 185 meters tall.
Sit with that number for a second.
185 meters.
Starship at 121 is already a world record.
And this thing blows right past it.
The Statue of Liberty, pedestal included,
is about 93 meters.
Which means this version of the Long March 9
is nearly as tall as two Statues of Liberty
stacked on top of each other.
It's not really a rocket anymore.
It's a Manhattan skyscraper
that decided to rip itself out of the ground and fly.
But the height isn't even the craziest part.
The craziest part looks is the cargo bay up top.
On any rocket, the nose cone that wraps around the payload
is called the fairing.
Basically, a disposable shell that wraps around the payload
and gets thrown away once the rocket reaches space.
The Long March 9's fairing could be
15 meters wide and 40 meters long,
with almost 3,000 cubic meters of space inside.
Starship's payload bay,
Except Starship's isn't a throwaway shell at all.
It's built into the ship itself,
and it flies home to be used again.
How much is 3,000 cubic meters?
Enough to swallow an entire New York City subway car whole
with room to spare.
If Starship is a big cargo truck,
what China is drawing up
is a full C-5 military transport plane.
Two completely different leagues.
And how serious are they?
That factory runs over $400 million,
with assembly bays reaching almost 120 meters high.
But my favorite detail is one tiny line
most people skipped right over.
100 meters up inside the building,
they designed an enclosed viewing gallery.
For what?
To walk visitors up and show off the rocket.
They haven't even built the thing yet,
and they've already put in a balcony
for the whole world to come admire it.
Say what you want.
That's a very specific kind of confidence.
They built a balcony to show off a rocket
that doesn't even exist yet.
Me, I'm just gonna ask you to hit subscribe.
Costs you five seconds.
Way cheaper than a balcony.
Now, the scoreboard looks clear.
Taller than Starship.
Heavier.
The cargo bay is three times the size.
On paper, this should be the runaway winner.
So, why does China keep chasing bigger and bigger?
Are they crazy?
Or do they see something we don't?
Here's where it gets interesting.
Because in the rocket business,
there's a brutal truth that outsiders almost never expect.
Bigger doesn't mean more powerful.
Sometimes, it's the opposite.
And to understand how a machine this enormous
could still lose to a smaller rival,
we have to talk about the silent enemy
that's haunted every rocket engineer for a hundred years.
It's not gravity.
It's not heat.
It's the rocket's own fuel.
Sounds backwards, doesn't it?
The fuel that lifts the rocket is also its worst enemy.
But picture driving from LA to New York with one rule.
Not a single gas station the entire way.
So you have to carry all your fuel with you.
And fuel is heavy.
So you need a bigger vehicle.
A bigger vehicle burns more fuel.
So you need more fuel just to carry the fuel.
Round and round,
until the thing you're driving across America
is a giant tanker truck
hauling one tiny package to the other side.
That's every rocket ever built.
Remember that 5,000 ton starship weighs on the pad?
Over 90% of it is just fuel.
The actual cargo that reaches orbit is maybe 2 to 3%.
2 or 3%.
A machine taller than a 35-story building
shaking the ground as it lifts off.
And it's basically a flying gas tank.
And here's the one thing to remember from this section.
Making a rocket bigger doesn't break that cycle.
It just makes the whole cycle bigger, too.
Double the size doesn't mean double the cargo.
Physics never gives you a discount.
Which is exactly why a fairing
three times the size of starships sounds amazing,
but might not deliver any more to the final destination.
Now, the heart of the Long March 9 is the YF-215 engine.
On paper, it's a marvel.
A full-flow stage combustion methane engine,
the same tier of tech as SpaceX's Raptor.
Only a tiny handful of engines in all of history
have ever cracked that cycle.
That China pulled it off, even just on a test stand,
is genuinely impressive.
According to the program's chief engineer,
the YF-215 has racked up around 1,000 seconds of test firing.
1,000 seconds. That's under 17 minutes.
Raptor?
Raptor has burned through dozens of real flights,
hundreds of firings under real, brutal conditions.
It's blown up for real, failed for real,
SpaceX now cranks out Raptors like Ford builds truck engines.
The gap between these two isn't in the blueprint.
It's in the number of times they've collided with reality.
And in this business, there's no shortcut around failure.
You can only start failing sooner.
History already taught this lesson the hard way.
The Long March 9's first stage is set to use 30 engines.
30.
If that number rings a bell, here's why.
Over 50 years ago, the Soviets built a giant moon rocket
with 30 engines on its first stage, too.
It was called the N1.
It flew four times.
And it blew up all four.
30 engines firing at once is an orchestra from hell.
One musician hits one wrong note, and the whole thing comes apart.
SpaceX has tamed 33 engines on Super Heavy,
but only after all those fireballs over Texas we've watched again and again.
China hasn't paid that tuition yet.
But let's say they get past all of it.
Say the YF-215 is flawless.
30 engines humming like a choir.
There's still one more thing, and this, to me, is SpaceX's deepest moat.
The funny part? It has nothing to do with size.
Remember that tanker truck from LA to New York?
China's answer is to build a bigger tanker truck.
SpaceX's answer? Don't build a bigger truck.
Build a gas station. In the middle of the sky.
That's orbital refueling.
The idea sounds like science fiction.
A starship reaches orbit nearly empty,
then tanker ships fly up after it, dock, and pump the fuel across.
It's exactly like aerial refueling for Air Force jets.
Except both vehicles are screaming along at 17,500 miles an hour.
And the liquid moving between them sits at 300 degrees below zero.
One gas bubble, one pressure spike, and the whole thing aborts.
Insanely hard.
Nobody's ever done it at this scale.
But if SpaceX pulls it off, and they're closing in on the test flights this year,
the rules change completely.
Because a starship topped off in orbit can carry its full 100 tons
all the way to the moon, or to Mars.
A giant rocket with no gas station, no matter how strong,
burns most of itself just clawing off Earth,
and delivers only a fraction to the final stop.
So here's what I want you to walk away with.
The moment that first gas station opens up in orbit,
the race to build the biggest tanker truck on the planet stops mattering.
Which makes me wonder where you're at right now.
Team bigger or team faster?
If China's giant still has you sold, comment bigger.
If you're with the gas station in the sky, comment faster.
I'm genuinely curious which way this channel leans.
Which brings us to the last truth.
One I think China understands better than anyone,
even if they'll never say it out loud.
The real rival of the Long March 9 isn't Starship.
It's time.
The Long March 9 is aiming for its first flight around 2032 or 2033.
Sounds close, right?
But do the math.
That's six, seven years out.
Six years ago, Starship was a steel water tower
that hopped a few hundred meters and blew up to a cheering Texas crowd.
Today, it's being caught out of the sky by giant metal chopsticks.
Over and over.
So six years from now, when the Long March 9 finally lifts off,
it won't be fighting today's Starship.
It'll be fighting the Starship of 2033.
Maybe a fourth or fifth generation.
Hundreds of flights deep, with a working gas station in orbit.
China is aiming at a target that never stops moving.
So let's add it all up.
We've got a superpower that tore up its blueprint three times
to admit SpaceX had it right.
A machine on paper, nearly twice the height of the Statue of Liberty,
with a cargo bay that swallows Starships three times over.
A $400 million factory rising on Hainan Island.
Those are real ambitions.
Real money.
Real steel.
And it would be a mistake for America to wave them off.
But there's also a gap you can't measure in meters.
A gap made of hundreds of flights,
thousands of engine burns,
and dozens of fireballs over Boca Chica.
The price of lessons no textbook can teach.
People keep asking whether China can catch SpaceX.
But I think that's the wrong question.
The real one is whether they can catch SpaceX's shadow.
Because the biggest machine doesn't win the race.
The machine that can fly again tomorrow does.