The TRUTH About How Terrible Ellen DeGeneres is

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Jul 16, 2026
Megyn Kelly is joined by Adam Carolla, host of the Adam Carolla Show, to discuss the gap between Ellen DeGeneres’ and Rosie O’Donnell’s public personas and private reputations, the horrible way Ellen reportedly treats her staff, and more.
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AI GeneratedThe speaker argues that public figures who project an overly sweet or \"saccharine\" persona are often overcompensating for being abusive or unpleasant behind the scenes. Using examples like Ellen DeGeneres and Meghan Markle, the speaker suggests that true character is revealed by how a person treats their staff and whether their private behavior aligns with their public image.
You do kind of wonder with a lot of these people, I mean you have to think Ellen, you have to think
Rosie, the old versions of them were the nicest, saccharine, sweetest people on the planet. It was
all part of a campaign to get you to not know what was actually going on in their heart. And
I believe whenever I see people act super saccharine sweet, it's always overcompensation
for them actually being a bitch and knowing it. I have this theory which is,
I say a lot of douchey things and half the people think I'm a racist asshole,
but I wouldn't do it if I felt like I was that way. I would have to overcompensate and be sweet
and be nice. People tell me all the time, you're such a racist. I go, if I was a racist, I wouldn't
make so many racist jokes because I wouldn't want people to be on to me. So you should look at
everything through the lens of Ellen who started every show by dancing or Rosie who had the cutie
patootie chub club and she loved Tom Cruise and she loved the Muppets. Inside were both
raging bitches and anyone who worked for them, and I knew people who worked for them,
would tell you stories about how bad they both were soon as the cameras and the lights shut off.
You were not allowed to look Ellen in the eye if you were on her production staff.
This came directly from somebody who worked for Ellen to this person's relative, blood relative
who I knew. You could not make eye contact with the queen as you walked by her and you were working
for her. I mean, this is like her staff who she's chosen, whose job it is to help her and make her
look good. You're like, okay, maybe I, this is ridiculous, but let's say the rule is don't talk
to her when you walk by her in the hallway. Okay, maybe you can give that to her. She's like in the
zone. She's thinking about what she's gonna say when she goes out there. She's gotta be funny.
You can't make eye contact with her. She's a monster.
Yes, Letterman's staff was scared of him. Rosie's staff was scared of her.
Ellen's staff was scared of her. You can judge by the staff. Do the people who work for you,
are they scared? And by the way, when you show up to a show to do the show, and I did,
you can tell immediately when people are scared. You don't get that. When you'd show up to do
Tonight Show with Leno, everyone was relaxed. When you'd show up to do Kimmel,
everyone was relaxed. You can show up and you can tell the staff that's scared.
They're tense and they're scared. And Ellen's staff was scared shitless when I showed up
to do it X amount of years ago. I noted how scared everyone was, and this is 15 years ago.
So you have to wonder about the people who are putting on the act like, oh, I'm so nice. I'm
so regular. I love friends. I love making new friends. Oh, where are the little people? Oh,
there's Manuel, the gardener. I'm gonna go be super nice to the little people that are here
working and stuff like that. I don't trust them at all. I believe someone like you,
you are who you are. Here's the whole thing. You can agree or disagree with Bill Maher. Bill Maher
is Bill Maher. That's who Bill Maher is. I've talked to Bill Maher at a party and Bill came
up to me and he's like, you have kids? And I go, yeah, I got twins. And he's like, man,
that's a bummer. And I said, no, I like my kids, Bill. And he goes, I bet you do. And I was like,
all right, that's Bill. That's who he is. He's the perfect kid.
No, I always feel like if you were ever to see my text chains, like if my texts ever got revealed,
people would be like, yeah, okay. There would be absolutely no shock involved in any of that
because I do live my life privately and I speak privately the way I do on the air. It's pointless
to try to hide who you are. If you have a problem, you really think you're a bad person,
you should work on it because it's going to come out eventually.
Yes. So I'll put it to you this way. I went to a wedding that Ellen was at.
There was a 30-piece orchestra and a world-class band. It was a world-class wedding.
Every person was dancing except for Ellen. So does Ellen love dancing? Because if she loves dancing,
it's like a Geico commercial. You're happier than Ellen at a wedding.
Does she love dancing or does she want you to think she loves dancing?
Exactly right. To the point where she incorporates it in every show and you just watch her having fun
and being a great host. And meanwhile, good luck finding anybody who has a nice word to say about
her. Truly, I have yet to meet anybody. I've talked to a lot of people who
work on writing staffs and things like that. They all signed NDAs, so I can't say any names.
I had a guy tell me, worst person, and he goes, not the worst person I've ever worked for,
the worst person I've ever met. I was like, wow, that's in Hollywood too.
That's impressive.
Megan may be that same person. I don't know. I don't know her. I don't know anyone who's
worked for her. She fires everyone or they quit. She's reported to be a massive bully.
There was a massive bullying report done about her by the palace. When the palace is doing
hip pieces on you, you got stuff to worry about. You really got to look internally.
There was a little glimpse of it on that terrible Emmy-nominated show where the one, was it Mindy
Kaling, who called her by the wrong last name, Megan Markle. You saw a little snap. We actually
pulled it. Here it is, shot 21. I don't think anyone in the world knows that Megan Markle
has eaten Jack in the box. It's so funny too. You keep saying Megan Markle. I'm Sussex now.
You have kids and you go, no, I share my name with my children.
I didn't know how meaningful it would be to me, but it just means so much to go,
this is our family name. Okay. If she had gotten married to some Joe Schmo and his last name was
Humperdick. What's it? Humperdink, Engelbert Humperdick. Okay, whatever. She would not be
saying that. That's not what happened. She took Sussex because it's the Duchess thing. It's royal.
Who does she think she's kidding? And she's pissed. She doesn't want the Markle name used
anymore, Adam, because of the children. That's really what it is. She would definitely be Megan
Humperdick. I believe as long as we're exploring the actresses who act nice and are really mean
and don't believe us, ask their staff or they fire. I'm going to go ahead and include Kamala
Harris onto that Rushmore bitches. I believe she's horrible. And that's why she always does
the laugh. She does the out of control laughter. She does the dance. She does the don't trust any
of them. And remember when she was talking to her sorority from Howard University, she's like,
my sorrow. Meanwhile, there had been a report to that half of the staff when she was VP fled.
They were trying to tamp that down in the news reports, but she could not keep a staff because
she was so nasty. All the reports were that she would not prepare. Then she'd be embarrassed.
Then she'd snap at the staff for not preparing her. It's like you wouldn't do the reading.
You didn't do the work, but out in public, it's my sorrow. You're like, no, you're right.
Nasty, nasty bitch. I don't know if she's Mount Rushmore. Sure, Ellen's up there.
Rosie's up there. Yeah, Markle's up there. She could be the fourth.
And you know what's funny? They all hate Trump, but Trump is exactly who he is
on camera and off camera is exactly the same. Yeah, never tries to.
And Trump Trump actually does work to make most people like him. He actually does want your good
opinion. Now, once you don't give it even for a day or a week, he turns on you. But like,
in general, he approaches every relationship with good humor and a general generally affable nature,
I would say. He just doesn't like criticism. But he's not one of those guys like, don't look at me.
You know, no eye contact in the hall. Never. Not the opposite.
Well, also, the other thing that's kind of interesting about him that none of these women
that we've spoken about would do. Donald Trump actually has a lot of people in his cabinet,
most of the people in the cabinet who said horrible things about him.
Like you take a look at Marco, his vice president, his vice president or someone. Marco Rubio is a
superstar in the Trump cabinet. Marco Rubio has said he had small hands and called him Orange
Man. And like he said, horrible things. But he put all that aside because Marco Rubio is super
effective and competent and would definitely help Trump's cause. So there's Marco Rubio or there's
J.D. Vance. Could you imagine Kamala Harris if there were some woman that talked a bunch of
---- about her constantly about blowing her way to the top or whatever horrible negative thing
they said about Kamala Harris? Could you imagine her being elected president, putting that aside
and bringing that woman into her cabinet? Hell no. Oh, hell no. There's zero chance.
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