UNBOWED: Tina Peters on Prison & Perseverance | Going Rogue with Lara Logan

Welcome to this week's episode of Going Rogue with Laura Logan and our guest today is someone who probably needs no introduction with my audience. She is a woman whose name is known all across this country for her courage in standing up when the 2020 election was stolen and she has just been released from prison. She hasn't even been out of prison a month. I know you all know who I'm talking about. Tina Peters is not just, well for me, she's not just someone that I read about in the headlines, not just someone that I posted about many, many times and asked questions about. She's someone that I respect very much and love very much because I had the chance to meet Tina and work with her when she was going through everything that was happening after the 2020 election when the state of Colorado and the corrupt officials who were covering up their crimes in a stolen election decided to come after her. Why was it so important to come after Tina Peters? Well, because she was the only person in her job as county clerk in Mesa County, Colorado who actually realized what was going on when the voting machine company, in this case it was Dominion, said they were coming in to do a system update, right? And Tina was like, wait a minute, don't we have like state election laws and federal election laws and this is my job to maintain these records? So rather than take any chances, she brought in a computer specialist who could take a copy, do a mirror image of those servers. This mattered so much because we don't know in the general public, we know of no other service whose images were copied like that, the exact, so that you knew exactly what was on those servers before the voting machine company comes in and does an update. And what happens? All that stuff is pushed out by the new files. So anyway, you don't want to hear from me, that's way too long. We have this amazing, extraordinary woman here as our guest and in the little time that I've had with her before sitting down to do this, I can tell you that the title of her movie should be Unbowed. Tina, thank you. Thank you so much for being here. I want to remind everybody about that setup. I know that everybody knows who you are and rightly so. Okay, you have just literally walked through the fires of hell. It feels that way. I haven't told a lot of people this, but I had a vision of literally walking through the fires and I could hear on the other side of this tunnel of fire, a voice that was very familiar to me. And I don't think I've ever told you this. And I could hear it coaxing me through and I was like, no, no, no, I'm afraid, I'm afraid. I don't want to, I mean, it's fire you're walking through. And he said, just trust me. And so I walked through it and when I got to the other side, I looked to my left and I looked to the right and there were other people and they had flames of fire coming out of their head, which I understood what that meant. It was the oil of the Holy Spirit. So I believe that throughout this, I knew that I was walking through the fire, but that I wouldn't get burned and it would be okay. What I didn't know is that it would take this long to be out of prison. And I kept asking God, how long, how much longer? And so I've never told anybody that vision. When did you have that? That was years before all of this came. Yes. I remember you and I think we were in your kitchen at your house when we talked about this and you said to me it was going to be okay. Because it was in one sense, these people are so corrupt and they're so evil and it was so critical to them to have that evidence suppressed and to maintain this lie that the 2020 election wasn't stolen. So you knew on the one hand that they were throwing the full force of their might and their weight behind this prosecution, but it was so unjust and it was just so insane that they would take a woman like you, who had been a pillar of the community, a gold star mom, who was respected by everybody in your county. You were liked and you were a good boss and you were a model citizen in many ways. You did your job. I mean, you stepped up, you ran for office, you did all those things. And I remember looking around at the life that you had built, knowing that your dad was sick and struggling and you'd lost your son and all the other issues that you were going through and just thinking they couldn't possibly put somebody like you in prison. You know, this is not the way I envisioned it happened. I envisioned when I was suspicious about the 2021 election, because Trump won in our county, and then it was the 2021 election. So I was elected official in charge of five divisions and one of them was elections. I started, I ran for office to shorten three and a half hour wait times because I knew as a business owner for 32 years, I could do that. It was very simple. But it was later on as an elected election official in my county that I became suspicious, not after the 2020 election, but after the 2021 municipal election, April 6. So that was November 2020. And then it's just a few short months later, you have this municipal election. And it was so obvious to me when I pulled the election results that night that those candidates could not have won. I remember that. It was impossible. The people that won, no one knew. It was kind of like the Biden basement type scenario. And didn't some of them kind of get wind early? They were, do you remember that, that a few of them were sort of celebrating and that kind of thing before the official results were official? You're right. Do you remember that? Yes, yes. One of the girls was at one of the watch parties. Yes. And they were telling, she overheard a phone call where the candidate and his agent said, you won and told him by how much. And that's before I pulled the election results at 7 p.m. Yes. So I knew there was something wrong. That was in April of 2021. April and May, the Secretary of State was coming to do what they called a trusted build. And I love these euphemisms, right? Trusted build. So they choose a word like trust, so you won't question it. And a build is innocuous. But what it really was, a trusted build is where they're just getting rid of old files. It was a wipe. And when you do that update, right? And as the new files are coming and taking up new space, they're pushing all the old stuff out. They completely wiped 29,000 election records. We found out later. I just backed up the election files because I wanted to make sure because I'd taken an oath to the U.S. Constitution and the Constitution of Colorado to protect election files. Yeah. And so I just wanted to make sure that everything was preserved. I did a before image and after image. And when the cyber experts compared the two, that's when everything exploded and they came after me. So see, this was such a big problem because nowhere else in the country did they have those physical records. And everybody wants to say, you know, there's a lot of people that want to say that, oh, it's not the machines, right? It's all the dead people on the voting rolls. And yes, the voting rolls are a big, big, big problem. Yes. And we know that. It's all the, you know, illegal immigrants, all the dead people, all the rest of it who are voting. It's all the mail-in voting that we know. But what they want us not to address this issue, that really what we've done is take something that is arguably one of the single most important things. Yes. That we have, right? That it secures and guarantees all of our rights and everything. And we have put it in the hands of something that is non-human. That's right. Because those machines, none of us speak code. We don't. I mean, all those election officials that are out there certifying election results. And I go to vote and I live in a county in Texas where they say that we do paper ballots. Yeah, we do do paper ballots. We sit, I sit down there and I make my little mark. And then what do I do, Tina? You put them in the machine. I get up, I walk over to a machine. Yes. And I stick that ballot in the machine. And what comes out is a QR code. How many people, do I speak QR code? No. Does anyone work? I actually say to the girl running the machine, what is this? What does this say? Oh, you can't show me your ballot. I said, but it's a QR code. I said, you read QR code? Can you read my ballot? And she's like, do you want to talk to the supervisor? Nobody wants it. There's too much secrecy, Lara. And there's too much secrecy in the process, in the proprietary, they call it software, in these machines. And nobody's allowed to see it. What we showed in the reports that came from the images that I did was that there were 29,000 election records completely erased. There were 36 wireless devices and machines that were touted as not being able to. Oh, yeah. Don't you remember that big thing? Nothing. No machine is connected to the internet, right? Yes, yes. Lies. Yes. One lie after another. And how did they get away with it? They did what the judge did in your trial. They just don't allow the juries to hear it. That's right. They don't allow it to come into the courtroom. Yes, that's right. So people didn't know that as a county clerk, it was your job to preserve those records in your case because the judge didn't allow them to know that, right? And so two of the things that the mainstream media tries to say is that I tampered with election equipment, which is really interesting, Lara, because not any of the charges were breaching or tampering with the election. No, that's just the court of public opinion. That's when they feed these lies into the media and they just print them. The other thing was that I had an unauthorized person there that did the image. And that's another lie because according to the law in place at that time, I was allowed to have, as the elected official, I was elected by the people. I didn't have a boss. I was elected by the people. Well, the secretary of state had an email that came out giving COVID regulations or COVID rules. And they used that to try to say that I violated an order by the secretary of state. The secretary of state was never my boss, Lara. She was also elected, but she had different duties. We were never allowed to present that in court. We were never allowed to present that it was my duty to preserve these election records by federal law. So then you come into the supremacy clause. You come into a state can't prosecute me for fulfilling a federal duty that was put on me by federal law. Because you have state laws regarding your election results, but you also have federal laws and you have to preserve those records according to the law for both of those. You're responsible for both of those things. She's the secretary of state for Colorado, but in your county, you are the senior official. That's right. Okay. So I do want to talk about the case and some of the nuances, but I do just also have to say you look fabulous. I mean, you haven't even been out of prison a month. Seriously, Tina. And I'm not going to say how old you are now. That's okay. Trump says I'm three years older than I really am. So how old are you really? I'm 70. And I've been fighting this since 2017, really. They tried to get rid of me because the people that were in that office were Dominion employees. In your office? In the county that I was elected to. It was a big upset. And they tried from the very beginning to have me recalled, to do all kinds of things. So you were in the fight, really, because of that? Been in the fight since then. And I don't know what I expected, but I'm just so... I'm just so blown away by you that you are still so strong. How? I mean, I know that you've been through hell. I know that there were very dark times. How long were you in prison in the end? Just four months shy of two years. 606 days. 606? Not that you would count. Every day. Every day I did something to secure my release and to be a voice for the women that were in there. They were also fighting for their life. It's terrible, isn't it? It's a horrible thing that no one should have to experience. But you know, it's interesting, and I've had to reflect on this. It served a good purpose because it just showed the harshness of what someone in power that's illegitimate, and I'm talking about selected people that are in our government that were not elected by the people because of these fraudulent machines and processes, what they can do when they're in power. And so every day, Lara, that drove me. That drove me. I describe it as being a horse in a starting gate for a race, and every day when I would see people like Mondami or Spanberger or, you know, all these people get elected, and I said, there's no way they got elected. I know how this works. So after five years, it became the five-year anniversary. I was still in prison, and of doing the images and revealing three reports, Mesa County Report 1, 2, and 3 that, of course, people can see on my website, TinaPeters.us, I was discouraged, I have to be honest with you, because I always believed that what we had uncovered would change everything. And here it was, you know, May 23rd of 2026, and so I wrote two letters. I only wrote two letters while I was in prison. I wrote another letter, two letters to President Trump, and I said, I'm really discouraged because of, you know, it's almost like what I did didn't matter. And I went through all of this, and was it worth it? I had Jenna Griswold saying, if you'll just recount. And she was the Secretary of State of Colorado. She said in the very beginning, if you would just renounce, we can't repudiate what you said on Facebook Live. And what I said was that these machines need to be more transparent to the people, and not be allowed to do what they're designed to do. When I wouldn't, you know, take that back, in essence, she went into a judge, a crooked judge, and had me removed from my elections office. And then I had another opportunity with a person that I knew, a close person to me, that had access to the Biden administration that said, you know, we can make all this go away. And it was like the devil coming to me with a deal. And I said, what would I have to do? Just say that, just say that you were mistaken. And I said, but I wasn't mistaken. And they said, well, I know, but just say, well, just say that you lied. And I said, but I don't lie. Oh, everybody lies sometime. And I looked her right in the face and I said, I don't. And I believe that truth matters. You know, my show is called The Truth Matters. And I believe that if you always tell the truth, you never have to worry about what you said. At my age, that's very helpful. But you know, what is the result of telling the truth? You know, what are they going to do? When I was in prison, Lara, I stood up for the truth, you know, and some people were very fearful. The women had been taught to be very fearful. And when I would try to help them and empower them, they would say, well, you know, we're afraid. And they said, we're afraid for you. You know, if you do this to help us. And I said, what are they going to do, throw me in prison? Oh, I'm there already. What are they going to do, throw me in the hole? It's never, you know, it's never as bad to stand for the truth as it is, as it is to live in fear and hide and cower. That would be something that you cannot endure, because you're living a lie. You're living a lie. And, you know, we have a short time on this earth. And I remember I used to speak and say, you know, all I want to hear at the end of my life is the words from God, well done, good and faithful servant. And one day I was speaking, and I could hear the Holy Spirit in my head say, you know, read the rest of that verse. And this is what I would say to anybody out there. It says, because you've been faithful in small things, I will give you governance over much. So when you look at life that way, and you look at it kind of like an adventure, but that you are tasked with your own personal purpose, when you discover that purpose, and you raise your hand and you say, pick me, you don't count the cost. It's like when a warrior goes into war, they don't count the cost. They don't say, well, I could die and maybe I shouldn't go. They say, I'm going to go do this because it's the right thing, a worthwhile thing to do. And, you know, what I went through, I would never wish that on anyone. But look at what happened. And, you know, I bring up our friend, Charlie Kirk, right? You know, as horrible as that was, the Bible says, unless a seed dies and falls to the ground, it can't produce much fruit. And what I've seen from me being in prison was more people speaking about it, more people seeing the injustice, more people hearing the truth, and that was because of the injustice done to me. So the suffering was great. You know, it was a loss, a loss of over two years of my life, a loss of my husband. They tried to take my house. They, you know, all the things that I experienced, but it's all for the cause. It really is all for the cause. And I don't know how to tell your listeners how important it is to be part of something, be part of something great, to stand up and be part of something great, because that outweighs the cost that you have to endure. It really does. It's incredible. It's true. I mean, you're right. But it is incredible to hear that just knowing how much you've gone through, you know, just knowing what that has taken from you, knowing that your father died the first night you were in prison, you weren't able to be with him, you know. And I know this has hurt your relationships with other family members. I won't go into detail because I'm sure that's your personal, you know. But I know that it really has cost you in more ways than people see. And so to hear you say that, it's quite something. And the thing about most people is that when they're afraid and when they're pushed like that, you know, they give in to that fear. That it controls you. If I had given in to the fear when I was in prison, if I'd given in to the fear of other inmates, I mean, we would be literally bumping chest to chest. They were going to hit me. They were going to, you know, I mean, I did have one person that was shown, the video was shown. That crazy person that attacked you? Right. You know, but I had several women that were ready to hit me and there was something about me that I don't back down. I don't back down. There is no fear. And the only way I can say that is it's supernatural. Because I just, I just don't. Some people will go toward the fire and some people will shrink back. And I think the worst torture is to shrink back. The worst torture for me would be to live in fear of what may happen, what they'll do to me. Oh, I don't want to be Tina Peter. Oh, I don't want to throw me jail. We have a First Amendment right to say what we want to say. To redress our government and to address of grievance. Yes, to stand up for our rights. And if we don't stand up for our rights, you know, we're going to lose this country. And we've talked about that. What happened to consent of the government? Right. I mean, you got most of the country wants to save America Act passed, both Democrat and Republican. And we can't get it passed. What that tells you that the people who are in Congress and not all of them, there's some amazing people there. You know, but what it tells you is that Congress as a whole is not serving the people. They're standing between the people and what they want. Right. And why is that? The foundation is the vote. The foundation is the stolen vote, the voting machines, the mail-in ballots, all the things. We wouldn't have to worry about the border. We wouldn't have to worry about people being murdered by convicts released from the Venezuelan prison jails. Right. We wouldn't have to worry about all the loss of life, all the violence, all the things that have happened if we had true representative government. And so to me, all these problems can be solved by fixing our machines, by fixing our election but that's why they came after me. They knew that their secret could not be kept. Yeah. If the information that you recorded, that you captured came out, their secret was in danger of being exposed. Okay. So that evidence never made it into the courtroom? No. And I wonder if that played a role in your release because you have an appeal, right? Or you had an appeal. So I had an appeal. The appeals court did rule that, and keep in mind that Soros, and you know this well, that he had in 2013 and before, he had an initiative to put secretary of states, nobody even knew what a secretary of state did. Yeah, he put secretary of states in office all over the country just like he did with district attorneys. Exactly. So you had all these little Soros puppets that were all funded by his network, his NGO industrial complex, I call it, right? Yes. They were all his little puppets. That's right. So when you talk about, especially Colorado, because I believe with Dominion having their headquarters here, it was the test pilot basically for elections. Just like Smartmatic was in LA. Exactly. And so when you talk about the courts, we appealed it. The appeals court said that, yes, that the judge should not have sentenced me according to my speech about my views on election. Right, imagine that. So they remanded it back to that same judge for resentencing. I mean, come on. Right. This is a man that gave me nine years, whereas another person, a Democrat senator in Colorado in May, she got probation for the same thing, you know? So it was remanded back to him. We took it to, we've now taken it to the Colorado Supreme Court. And the interesting thing about the Colorado Supreme Court, they're the same ones that tried to, then Norma v. Trump case, tried to keep Trump off the ballot. Yes. I mean, so there's, you know, that tells you all you need to know about the Colorado Supreme Court, right? I imagine you could try and keep the president off the ballot in a presidential election by some, I'm sorry, batty woman, right? Have you seen all the videos released and all that stuff that she's got in her garden at night? And she's crazy. She's crazy. That woman's crazy. Yeah. And that's who they pick. They pick the crazy people because when they get investigated, journalists go down a rabbit hole and they find, oh, well, she's a crazy person. Oh, this is a homeless person. Oh, this is a disturbed young trans kid, right? And it, and boom, it ends right there. Yes. Yeah. And you'd never get the truth. No, you don't. Because it's just a patsy that they put forward. And so, yeah, I mean, the Colorado Supreme Court has shown its colors, but it shouldn't even, it shouldn't even be that way. Because one of the things you pointed out to me when I was in Colorado with you is that Colorado, people think of it as a blue state, but it has not been a blue state for very long. No. And it really isn't a blue state now. It's been captured. So with it being in the Colorado Supreme Court right now to get my convictions overturned, I'm hoping that they have learned from the Supreme Court that in a 9-0 ruling that they're not going to prevail in violating my First Amendment right, but even more importantly, the Supremacy Clause. The Supremacy Clause says that if a person is acting according to federal law, then the state cannot prosecute them. And that's the short version. So by preserving federal election records, because this was a federal election, the 2020 was, by preserving federal election records, that was a mandate and a law put on me when I took the oath to the U.S. Constitution, to abide by the laws of the U.S. Constitution. Which you took when you took office. That's right. So Colorado should have never indicted me. And they were very careful not to indict me on anything having to do with elections. I didn't tamper with the election equipment or breach the election equipment like the mainstream media says. And I didn't have an unauthorized person in there. Just like the law says that, you know, I could have anyone I wanted in there. But that's how the mainstream media influences. There were over 700 articles, above the full, color articles, front page, defaming me by the local, oh, I remember you were public enemy number one, good lord. Everything they could throw at you, they threw at you. They demonized you. I mean, they hounded you. And you didn't stand a chance in the information space, because all of the media was already, you know, number one, they were going to defend the 2020 election to the death. Number two, they could not admit to fraud in any way, shape or form. And number three, they listened to these people blindly. And they wanted to put a scare. They wanted to use me as a sacrificial lamb. Actually, Cody Davis, who was the one that came out and said, even to one of the guys running for governor right now, Victor Marks, that, you know, all these things about me and the crimes I committed. I took him, I took the commissioners, all the evidence, and they did nothing with it. I took it to the DA, the district attorney. He did nothing with it. You know who they call to corroborate what the truth actually was against what we put out? The minion. It's like going to Jeffrey Epstein and asking him about his crimes. Right. Yeah, yeah. It's unbelievable. Okay, so tell me something. What is it, the very obvious question, but one that is still very interesting. What is it like for you now? What was it like getting that news that you were going to be released? Could you believe that? You know, I've been told so many times, Lyra, just two more weeks. Well, at first I was told, you won't go to prison. There's no way. You'll probably get probation, all that. So when they handcuffed me in front of all my friends and supporters in that courtroom. Was that brutal? That was really brutal. That was the first time I really broke, was when they took me down that long, long corridor down to the basement, to the jail, and then close those loud, very loud, heavy steel doors. And that was the first time I really just broke down. Just completely, just all of me just broke down. Because you have faith that the government and the justice system is going to do the right thing. And it failed. It failed because of corrupt, selected people put into office. And their puppet masters pulling the strings and funding them and orchestrating it and organizing it and using their little lapdogs in the media to cover it up and give them the space to operate and then do everything to come after you so that you can't fight for yourself. I mean, it's a playbook that is very familiar now to many Americans. I mean, we weren't allowed to call one of the major players in Dominion that had sent, they had sent emails from Serbia over to Denver and all these places to say, we've got to take care of this person in Colorado. I mean, they were very afraid that the information that we were putting out. Again, information that the judge kept out, right? Right. All of it. Sorry, I interrupted you. They were afraid the information you was... They were afraid it was going to get out. So they tried to silence me and silence every American that questions and make me an example to all. This is right before the 2020 election or 2020, yeah, 2024 election. They wanted to silence me. I mean, they wanted to set an example. This was October 3rd when I was sentenced. We tried to get it moved to after the election and they said, and the DA said, no, we want to send a message to everyone out there. He said that right on NPR. So say January 6th. Right. They wanted to send a message. Right. Put all those people in there to orchestrate the violence. So being in prison, being in jail first, two different jails, then going to prison, being mistreated there all along the line. I was a target, but I was able to win over a lot of the correctional officers. They started seeing by my behavior and they started seeing the truth. That you weren't a criminal. That I wasn't a criminal. Even the inmates would say, we deserve to be here, but you don't deserve to be here. And I stood up for them. I stood up for them. I helped them know their rights. What were the conditions like? Searches all the time. Invasive? Yeah. Well, it was, you know, every time my attorney came, every time I got a visit. You got strip searched? Every time. Yes. Every time. Is that normal? I don't think it's normal. But, you know, just the conditions that you had to live under. They woke us up at 5 a.m. Everybody up. You know, you had to do standing formal count. So you had to stand up in your cell with your ID, state your name and your DOC number. And that happened three times a day. We were given five minutes to be wherever we need to be. So they would call CHOW, they would call MEDLINE. You had five minutes to get dressed, get out the door and be on your way and to arrive where you were going. You know, there were some, instead of focusing on the harsh treatment, I tended to focus on the good things. There was these wonderful squirrels that we talked about that you could feed, that you could feed until they found out that it was that we enjoyed doing that. And then they made it as bad as an assault if you fed the squirrels. Yeah, couldn't take the flowers. That was also a COPD one where you would be charged with the same thing as if you assaulted someone. And they really tried to take the humanness out of friendships and they made everything seem very sexual and dirty if women wanted to be friends with each other, even if they weren't, you know, if it wasn't that kind of thing. You couldn't hug, you couldn't show any kind of affection. It was very dehumanizing. The amazing part is that you dehumanize people and then you ask them to come out and take their place in society and be decent humans. But you've just told them that they're worthless in society, looks at them as less than nothing. For years. And they're supposed to somehow come out of that? How? They don't want them to know their rights and they want to treat them how they want to treat them. And a lot of the correctional officers, if you can, you know, it's easy to understand why someone would become a correctional officer, because it doesn't pay a lot. So it has to be another reason that a lot of these people do that, you know, whether they were bullied in school or a way to have power over other people, you know, that sort of thing. You know, when we were having dinner earlier, we had salad and you looked at that tomato. So for two years, I never had a tomato until one day a woman who saw a little rogue plant that worked in maintenance brought me this little cherry tomato and I kept it in a cup for three days and just would just look at it before I ate it because it was so precious. I could smell when we were saying grace at the table. I could smell the salad below me. I could smell the cucumber, you know, and it's things that you take for granted every day. People, I think, if I could sound the alarm about anything, it would be that we're a very pampered society. We've been lulled to sleep thinking that, oh, that happens to other people. That'll never happen to us. That'll never happen to the U.S. Yes, it will. It will if we don't stand up. You know, Iran will bomb us if President Trump doesn't get rid of it. You know, those kind of things that people don't understand that these are really real threats. You can't live in, you know, la-la land. You've got to understand how dire when they steal our elections and people that don't have our best interests at heart take power. It's not for your benefit. It's not to make a better way of life. It is to control and overwhelm and power and destroy this nation. And we have- It's interesting that you say that, Tina, because what I see now is one election after another, after another, after another is being stolen. Yes. And it's right in front of our eyes. And that, to me, is part of an organized, orchestrated, well-funded campaign. To make sure that the Democrats and the traitors within the Republican Party who work with them, the globalist, progressive, Islamist alliance of people, they have no intention of ever being this vulnerable again. Because right now, we haven't seen accountability, but it's possible still. And what I see is a campaign- They don't ever want- They're going to do everything they can to make sure that they are never, ever, ever in a position where anyone could even think about holding them accountable. That's right. They have gained so much power while we've been asleep, you know, allowing them to pass laws to raise our taxes, which wasn't voted for. But somehow that law got- That happened right here in Colorado, right? I mean, there was- Yep. In Solomon, Arapahoe County, where they cheated on a down-ballot issue. Right, which was- Can you explain it? Well, so that's just one of the counties. There's over 2,000 counties that our team is looking into where there are issues that have been put on the ballot that are not characteristic of the people- The people, representing the people. What it is is people voting against their own interests. Exactly. Right. Like, there was a cap on property taxes, and it made no sense for people to vote against lifting that cap. Especially after those same group of people- Let's say Republicans. Republicans would vote for, you know, no, no, no on certain things that would take their liberty. But all of a sudden, surprisingly, they voted to raise their taxes. Along with the Democrats. It's not going to happen. Republicans don't do that. It's not going to happen. And since then, property taxes have increased by how much? I think it's like over 50%, which has been a strain, right? Very hard for Democrats and Republicans, for all families in Colorado. So it's like it's a little thing that's further down on the ballot, you know, that you don't really know, you may or may not really know what you're voting for. But it has such an impact, right? And practical impact on people's lives. And then, and so you have all these people, Democrats and Republicans, who are voting the opposite way on everything else on the ballot. But when it comes to that one thing, oh, magically, everybody's in agreement, right? That's how, you know, because people will say, oh, there's no evidence of fraud. But when you look at things like that, you know it's a lie. Because when experts go through that, the chances of winning the lottery seven times over is more likely than the math of what happened in the elections. So, you know, you don't even have to prove that the, and that's one thing I was talking to at an election summit in Vegas this past week. And you don't even have to. So the other side, and when I say the other side, the globalists, the people that hate our country that want to take it down, wants to try to paint us in a corner and say, well, show us how it's done. We don't have to show you how it's done. We can show you the math and show you that this is mathematically impossible that this could happen. You show me how it is not possible. And I think that so many people keep getting information, they're hungry. I want to know, I want to know, I want to know. It's frustrating for me because we've already shown enough evidence for people to know the truth. For people to know the truth, you don't need any more evidence. But they're still denying it. And they're still clinging to the fact that the judges wouldn't allow it into the courtrooms. They wouldn't even hear the evidence most of the time. So what they said was, oh, well, they tried taking that to court and they failed because they never even made it into the courtroom because they kicked them out half the time. And then if they did make it into the courtroom, they don't allow you to hear the whole truth. And it's little things that they do. Like they say that, oh, we had an audit. Yes. What kind of audit did you have? We had a risk limiting audit. What is that? Well, when you look into it, it's when they take a tiny percentage of the vote. And that's done with machines. I'll give you a good example. So when all this came out and we brought the reports out, I decided and I said, you know, this can't go on any longer. I have to go into the belly of the beast. And so February 14th on Steve Bannon's show, I announced I was running for secretary of state. Right after that, I was indicted. In four months, I raised more money than any other candidates running on the Republican ticket. And just coincidentally enough, the people in the Republican ticket were Pam Anderson, whose mom, Norma Anderson, is the one that was on the lawsuit to keep Trump off the ballot. Wow. She was also one of the heads of CTCL, Center for Tech and Civic Life, that $850,000, or was it 800? No, $850 million, I believe it was, went to people to defeat Trump. And she was running as a Republican. Then this little guy that was on a mortgage consortium with Obama appointed A.G. Weiser. So these are the supposed Republican candidates. I raised more money. I mean, seriously. In four months. Then all of them combined. Even the press knew that I had won because they were coming to me a week before. We know you've won. What are you going to do as secretary of state and all this stuff? We could see in real time in the counties, Garfield County especially, we could see that night the votes flip. We could see them in real time. The cyber experts could see the votes flip. And so then after surprisingly Pam Anderson won, who did nothing from then on out to oppose Jenna Griswold, I raised money for a recount. Did the recount. Jenna Griswold violated the law again in doing the recount. She's the secretary of state. She was the secretary of state. In the recount, you're supposed to, according to the law, I think it was 101-3B, CRS 101-3B, you're supposed to, the canvas board is supposed to go select the equipment that they want to test. So if you have four tabulators, that's the Dominion tabulators, if you have four of them, then they could pick maybe one, three, or something like that. Randomly pick them. Take the tapes from those tabulators and what the totals were, go get the voter verified paper ballots, is the way the law reads, and match them and count them by hand. And that total is supposed to match the total for the machines. If it doesn't, if there's any discrepancy whatsoever, then everything has to be hand counted for the whole state. In my case, the whole state. She violated law. She went in and just ran them back through the machine again and said, we're all good. See, it says the same thing. Because they knew what it needed to say then. This woman used to be in prison, Mira. She allowed passwords for all of Colorado. To be leaked. To be, well, she had them purposely on the website. Yes. For people, for whoever to see. So they could use those passwords and go in, you know? And then, and you know, it's just, it's extraordinary. I can name off felony, I can name off cases, HAVA cases, what I just mentioned. The 29,000 election records. One thing after another. There's so many things that she's done illegally. And now she's running for the highest attorney in the state. Oh, and you know what her campaign is? I put Tina Peters in prison. That's what she's running on. Did you spend a lot of any time in prison thinking about these people? Uh, yeah. Yeah. My producers, yeah, laughing. Did I think about them? Maybe it was. So my producers were still doing my show. And, um, yeah. And so I would say, call out this person, do this, do that. And so they were my voice. And I'm very grateful. They were an amazing voice. You have so much support all across the country. I mean, people truly respect you and appreciate what you've done. And I know, I know, I know how much that means to you. I do. It does. It was the thing that kept me going. It really was. The prayers, the financial support. Because, you know, a fight like this, they're hoping that you'll run out of money and that. Oh, they want to break you any way they can. And money is the easiest one. And they don't have to pay for their attorneys. We pay for them. Which is the dichotomy in itself. That we pay for the attorneys to fight us. Yeah. With our tax dollars. So your producers will kill me. Your team will kill me if I don't make it. They can edit this out. This is the perfect moment for me to say Tina Peters dot us. OK, go to Tina Peters website because I know how hard it is. I mean, you've just you're just out of prison. Obviously, Colorado is not a good place for you. I would get the hell out of there as fast as I could. I mean, I love the state. But, you know, they're they're corrupt and and they have not forgiven you. So, I mean, people, you know, this is the thing is not everybody can be that warrior, right? Not everybody can be the person that is leading the charge, running into a battle. But they can make it possible for people like you to do what you're doing. And that is a big deal. It's a really big deal because you kind of lost everything. And and so, I mean, Tina Peters dot us dot us, however you want to say it. The point is that really, I would urge people, if they can, to please try and go to Tina's website, do whatever you can to help her financially. You know, the taxpayers really I mean, American taxpayers, the individual person, no matter how small the amount is, that's really where the power is. Right. That's the power of the people. Yes. And so I know that you need all of that. I mean, your team, I don't even know they've hung in there all this time and all the people that have done so much. And then, of course, you know, there's all the people that have tried to raise funds off your back. So I want people going to other sites or going to other, you know, organizations to go and try and raise money for you. They need to go to Tina Peters dot us to help you there. OK, so it's it's late and I want to be mindful of your your time and your well-being. We've got a big day, you and I. And, you know, I don't want to wear you out. And I know we're going to be doing this again and hopefully more together because we have some unfinished business. Unfinished movie business to take care of. But I guess the one thing I need to ask you, what do you do? You know what you're going to do now? You know, I know until I see the elections, the election problem solved. Yeah. I have to stay in it. I can't. What I told you in the beginning, I can't unsee what I've seen. And to go and just I mean, yeah. I would love to have a vacation, relax on the beach. Maybe I'll get to do that for a week. I don't believe you all the time. I know you. But how can you how can anybody relax when there's so much at stake? Because it's only temporary. It's just waiting for the other shoe to drop. If you don't get involved, if you don't support those that are getting that are involved. So I will keep fighting to me. I feel like it's my duty to do so. You know, I didn't raise a Navy SEAL for nothing. Well, you got your determination, didn't you? Because that's the thing that, you know, that kills most people when they go into SEAL training is that they just don't have the will, you know, to fight for the goals and to persevere through all of it. And so that thing that when you would when you were saying that you when you were challenged in prison, you know, that you just don't back down. I had in my head, I actually thought, oh, that's that's where her son got it. Yeah. Right. What are they going to do to you? I mean, what literally are they going to do? They can kill you. But you know what? I think I told you last time. What did I tell you? Tell me again. Then I would be with my son. That's what you say. So this life is this life is short. It's a very temporary place. Where we're going is where, you know, we want to do well here. And there's a lot of things, a lot of a lot of things that people can do that I believe they each one has a purpose that they're supposed to do right now. Just by the fact of living in this day and time. You know, we were sitting in your living room when I asked you that the first time. Right. We were on your couch. And I said that to you. You said, what could they what's the worst they can do? And I said that they can kill you. And you said that exact thing. You said, then I will be with my son. Right. I remember, you know, they they can't they they can't take. There's certain things that they cannot take away. You know, I know. I'm so glad that you're out. You know, it took too long. But I don't really understand it. That's another conversation for another time. Don't really know why you're sitting here other than God. It's God's timing. I just know that you are a weapon before this happened. And now you are a weapon that has been finely tuned and honed. Because you are a woman who does not. I mean, as hard as this has been on you. You said to me you had things grown on your skin and. Yeah, bumps and stuff from the water, from the food. The food was very. I mean, it's inhuman, actually, isn't it? And I know there were women in there with you. Some, you know, some of whom were raped. Some of whom have got terrible health problems. And, you know, the thing about it is not that you don't believe in law and order in the justice system. It's just that nowhere in a courtroom is an American judge sentenced you to be raped or sentenced you to die of, you know, sort of a lung disease because there's so much black mold, you know, or sentenced you to slave labor. But those are not punishments that are allowed by our justice system. But those are what we're doing to our prisoners. And they have and people do not know what goes on behind those walls because they're shielded from being able to see. There needs to be transparency. Yeah. In every facet of American life. Our government and the institutions in this country need to be transparent enough that citizens can have oversight and see and decide if that's the way they want to run their country, you know, to run their society. Well, that's why it's so important for journalists to do their jobs, honestly. You do such a great job. Well, you know, I try and, you know, it's hard without all the resources that I had at 16 Minutes. But, you know, and I always wish I could do better and do more. But there's others, you know, out there. There's a lot of others out there. There's just the media system is so broken. And without that as a force, you know, we're limping into the future with this fractured, broken media, everybody trying to do the best, each man for himself, right? Where are the bureaus? Where are the correspondents going all over? Where's the people firsthand reports, you know, on the ground in Iran and everything else, right? It's dying. It's being stripped away from us because they want us to be blinded. Right. And you are not without the cost as well from exposing truth. And, you know, I think that's something that the American people need to understand. You've been through the battle. You fought many battles at the expense of your health and your well-being. And so you're a really true warrior. And I'm very grateful to call you a friend. I just really, you know, just have so much respect for you. And I'm so, so, so sorry on behalf of all the American people who feel the same way as me. I'm just so sorry you had to go through that. And I'm so grateful that you were standing firm and not giving into that fear. Because it's not being, you know, we all have fear, but it's not giving in. It's acting in the presence of your fear. That really is what makes you so brave. And I just, all those dark, lonely nights that just never seemed to end. Another day of, my God, is Peter, is Tina still in jail? Can't believe Tina is still in prison. How are we here? But then to find you as you are now, where you're so strong, you're so strong. I just, I want everybody to see it. I want everybody to see it. So you know what that means? That means you need to like, you need to share, you need to subscribe. I am as bad as Tina, as proud of the thing. So I'm just going to say to you, please, please hear her voice. Listen to her. Send this to as many people as you can. Go to her website, tinapeters.us, wow, there's more good to come. There's more good to come. There's more of us than there are of them. And there are way more of us than there are of them. And God wins. We know that God wins in the end. But he needs us to peace. We got to show him that. We need, God, we can't just sit back. That's right. We can't just sit back and expect him to do it all. I have a great friend who always likes to say, you know, do you know any farmer that says, God, dig me a hole? And then sit back and watches the ground. The holes don't dig themselves, right? So we know this. And many of you know Tina's story, many of you know Tina's story. And many of you know her. But I just want to say that everything that you thought about her, everything that you hope for is true. She has emerged stronger and braver than ever. And an example to all of us. And I know how grateful we are. And you know, Tina, they don't get, these bastards don't get to write the story. They don't get to write the history. They don't get to lie. They don't get to cheat and steal their way into power and punish us. I just saw something today. A woman that came after me and orchestrated some of the stuff. She's now suffering with cancer. You know, and I really truly felt bad for her. Because it's, you know, you will reap what you sow. And I'm not saying that because she did things to me, this is what happened to her. But you know, there's a festering that happens with people that are living lives that aren't true, you know. When my mom used to say, life is the great leveler. Mmm, that's good. And by the time we get to the grave, we're all the same. And I can control what anybody else does. I can control what I do to be part of the solution. I am really excited to see what you do now with this time and with this moment. I really am. And I think one of the things that I hope to see is that evidence that you preserved on behalf of the American people. That evidence needs to be seen by everyone. Yes. And for what it is. Not the lies, not the deceit, not the manipulation, not the spin. It needs to be seen for what it is. And then they need to know how many places those voting machine companies went in and erased those records. And what were they so afraid of? They'll say, oh, it was maintenance or this or that. We're not buying the lies. We're not buying the excuses. Now, we're the only one that has a image of before the trusted bill. Well, thank the Lord that you had the courage to do that. And I am. And you know, Mark's, I mean, Mark Cook. Oh, Mark Cook. Yeah. Mark Cook can go into that image and he can show you exactly within a minute how you can flip the vote. He's one of the true patriot, actually, who has committed his entire life to this because when he saw the injustice of the 2020 election and he's technically savvy enough to be able to figure it out. Yes. And he has great solutions as well. Yeah, I love him. We'll see him tomorrow. Okay, thank you so much for watching Going Rogue. Thank you for supporting Tina Peters. Thank you for all those people on January 6 who went to the Capitol to be a voice. I think it's just we're so grateful that people are willing to stand in the gap and not give in to their fear. We know how many lives have been destroyed. We know how many families have paid. We know about all those parents that went to school board meetings that have been targeted. I mean, there's so much to fix and so much to do. But thankfully with people like Tina Peters, she's the living, breathing example of the power one individual can have if you choose to use it.