The Next MOMBASA GOVERNOR!!? Abdul Swamad Nassir Meets Presenter Ali

And by the way, the air is And by the way, the air is always amazing. I don't know what we're I don't know what we're going to do. I think it's very, very good. I think a very, very good response, like today. Those are the ones I've done. I'm ready to be judged on that. I'm ready to be judged on that as well. I think, um, no leader rates I think, um, no leader rates himself. Your ratings go by himself. Your ratings go by Himself. Your ratings go by people. Today is just one example. So, I Today is just one example. So, I think our ratings are pretty good. I think our ratings are pretty good. I think our ratings are pretty high with the people. you know, the personality of the You know, Person of the Year. At the Pony Golden Awards, congratulations on that, and also, you've stood out as one of, you know, the most stylish, uh, political figures, you know. Yeah, well, because you're interacting with science, or you've been into it ever since, you know, hanging out at the lab. I think, um, style isn't really about anything else—it's just about, um, how you wear something. If, well, your body type doesn't allow you to wear something, well, like, well, at the same time make you dress up, dress up, well, to be able to, to, for, for, for the occasion. Yeah. So, this guy, the one who's always at the gym, is the one who's always complaining about the weather, right? Yes, I train, uh, at least about, uh, a minimum of four to five times a week. Wow. Yeah. What kind of lifestyle do you have, exactly? Every day. Every single day, four to five times a week. Yeah. Um, I'm going to Mombasa, I go there, and I'm, I'm happy, uh, I think, uh, any gym opens up for me at any time. Not because of anything else. Because of that. Yeah. Hey, well, maybe just a little, I'm still in love with those people, those people. so the running So, you know, I was there at that time. Um, and uh, we were basically preaching about peace and everything, and we did quite a lot A bit of things, and then after that, it was a calling. Yes. In fact, there are some areas where I must stand to be corrected. corrected but any polling station. So, yeah. the gubernatorial seat. You know, today's campaigns. One Among the things you know, we insist on is that you know peace. campaigns, peaceful elections because the elections come Once every five years, but our lives—once something to be a permanent scar. It's going to be a permanent scar. to be either permanent damage or scars. Um, there's no need to create trauma, no need to create Panic. Um So, I think we should not have human-induced uh, um recklessness. Uh, the the Uh, based on that, you need to always uh spread Peace. Be cautious about what you talk about. It's very, very Easy. Um Sometimes I don't know whether they get carried away. or something, and I think I don't know whether it is a emotional outburst, but you need to be extremely, extremely careful because what we talk about then translates You know, You, you, you campaign for that, and it's something you, you I would like to add even what The same. What does it mean to you, and what does it mean to your Career? Leadership is a calling. As I said, um, this Calling has been going on for a while, and now I think it is uh It's time for us to be able to take the necessary actions. Yeah. you're you're you're you're you're your friend is the Outgoing, you know, Governor 001. I don't think it's an issue of I think it is important for the governor to remain uh neutral in these particular campaigns, but whether I will ask him for his vote. Yes. Uh, whether he will vote. for me or not. It is a secret ballot. Um, so I want to continue where he has been able to live. I want to improve whenever I feel there is something that needs improvement Whatever it is that he has been able to do, I want to learn. from the mistakes that he was able to make as a human You are all prone to uh so We are So, you know, we come up with, um, uh, basically, uh, look at every single um um hardship as an opportunity to be able to Do better. Treat every single mistake as a way of learning and um No one can have a monopoly on good ideas. It's impossible. You can't be a master of everything. I mean, right now, You're one of those, you know, the best bloggers there are. that are out there. So, uh, if I wanted to do your job as Well, I'll never be able to do your job, but if uh you Know, we can, we can be able to coexist by learning that everyone after the elections, oh God forbid, you know, if you lose it, it's because most of the time, I was supposed to win. I've never... I've never thought of it. Losing. I've never lost an election. I wouldn't want to enter an election knowing that, um, you know, I have a chance of losing. I do not believe I have a chance of losing. Yeah. Even looking at it now, the current the status quo, you know, the status quo right now is you won The best MP in the cost region. You know, you do very different from other leaders' consistency. I think the the The keyword here is not anything else. It's consistency being There. I mean, I've, I think, over the last 5 years, I've I've only been able to go abroad once in my life. I've, uh, over the For the past five years, I have been in Mombasa every single weekend. and probably if there are weekends when I will be able to I haven't been to Mombasa, but they are countable. They are truly countable. I've been, you know, uh, taking my Parliamentary duties II: Chair meetings, on average about four to five meetings every single week and I can comfortably say as well that, um, I think over the past five years, I've Only missed about four. I missed one because I had an allergy. I couldn't travel because my face was All swollen. I took something the first time I got one. allergy, and the second time I missed it was because I had just I lost my four employees, and um, the third one, I missed it. because I had to make arrangements for the burial. That means I missed one day, and then the next day, and then uh, the last day that I missed was because I had to go and do the funeral for Carol, uh, who was one of my employees. So, I've actually only missed uh 4 days. Yeah, I actually think that you are among the most genuine people. If you can Actually, remember that, I know most or some of them would probably say I've just missed several and probably won't even remember that. You know, uh, looking at ways on how we can be able to improve the SMEs in Mombasa coming up with programs for them. Uh, issues related to all these, um, uh taxes that are there, seeing how we can make life bearable for them. Once you have an economic rotation system, Then money, uh, is going to be able to circulate easily, uh within the system. Um, make uh things conducive. I think what what people need is a way for them to be able to have businesses in a conducive manner, and the other day I was talking to one about your colleagues, uh, Brenda, actually, and I was telling her Um, that doesn't make sense. You know, if you go right now, People actually choose travel destinations. They choose. travel destinations for the purpose of vlogging, uh blogging, taking pictures, Instagram itself, as I actually say that people choose travel destinations so they can be able to take pictures and record videos. So, why would You want to charge someone to actually take, uh, pictures and videos in your own country, in your own county. Every time That they do that, the best you can do is simply ask them. that you know what, if you're going to take this, it's a the request we're asking you to do is to sell Mombasa as well That's all it takes. Yeah. Even in places like Dubai, I think That's what they do. Exactly. Um, so, so once you're able to do that is like saying you've gone to Dubai, but you can't take a picture of the bulge. which is a landmark, and here you are. You know, you can't be able to take pictures at some of the iconic locations in Mombasa. Especially at a time when everything is so digital. Everything is so digital. Why do you want to What are we doing? We're chasing pennies and losing pounds. This is what We're doing it. Yeah. We've actually seen, uh, I don't know. If you're aware of that, we've actually seen you know, uh a media that is based in Nairobi and mostly in Mombasa. So, It's actually been a huge deal. Do you have any plans? You know, for online digital media, you know, in terms of supporting them in any way, because we've seen most of them rising to even gaining a massive number of followers and It's been a thing, you know, uh, that has even sparked a conversation where people are saying that the online media is actually taking over, you know, traditional media. Well, Uh, online media has a huge presence. Uh, Kenya's internet Penetration is among the highest on the continent. Uh Nairobi, then Mombasa. So, I mean, a a place, for the sake of argument, where internet penetration is concerned, I I'd say it's about 70%. Uh, so, when you have internet and when I say that, I'm not saying in terms of coverage, I'm saying that people should be able to access the internet on a daily basis. That means through your mobile phone, through your laptop, your iPad, or whatever device it may be. So, there is a need. In fact, what we actually need To start considering is nothing else but to consider talking. about online media owners and content creators have their own level of, uh, their own self-regulation. Uh, when you have media that can be heard through uh hundreds of thousands of people, you end up having a social responsibility and your social responsibility is to Make sure that whatever it is that you spread out there Is it one truthful? Is it going to be able to harm others? Um, you know, is it something that is going to have um a ripple? Uh, multiplying effect on a negative level or on a positive level. So, these are the things, and of course, um Personally, I'll tell you what we have been able to accomplish. We have been able to set up four digital hubs within the constituency, actually. One of them was at Jamo Kenyatta. The other one was at Sheikh Abdullah Farsi. We're putting Another one at Um and another one at Um Majengo Primary. And These are areas that are going to have WiFi. I would wish for a situation in which, in fact, access to Communication is key to growth. So, when you yourselves, I think the best thing that we can do is to ensure that more and more people have that access, and I was saying that Um, there are so many people who would wish to have services. from Mombasa IT providers, um, and uh, you know, there's Internet providers. Uh, if they can be able to do it now facilitated the establishment of internet hubs where they can have WiFi being spread, and if that WiFi is being spread, if this region, every single person has WiFi, then that means you as As a digital media owner, as a content creator, you comfortably gaining more and more viewership, and there are ways in which they can actually earn money from it. You know, every single person who logs in, probably there's an advertisement that is going to appear only once or twice a day or whatever it may be. So, there are ways you can be but the only thing is, you know, we use existing platforms, whether it's going to be power lines, whether it is going to be the street lines or whatever they're called, and you Pass on the same. Uh, these are people who are able to Say that every single IP address. That means you can Only be able to get what? Any amount of MB per day. More than that, then you have to pay for it. So, it becomes, you know, a way of, um, and you know, whether we like it or No. Online media is catching up. If you want to know that it's catching up, mainstream media itself is Going online. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. That's True. Amazing. We are having a conversation with uh the Incoming governor 2022 here in Mombasa. Now, before Of course, this conversation I just want to know. So much. You know, Nikki, what What makes you happy? As a person now, aside from leadership. I'm uh I'm very I I think I'm um I hope I don't uh I probably would be close to being called boring on uh on uh, because um, I wake up in the morning. If I have a Meeting early, then I wake up much earlier. If my day starts later, then I wake up a bit later. Uh, first thing What I do is I go train. Yeah. I go and uh I just sweat. I get going, and then after that I start, um, my day, um Sometimes, sometimes, it's so vital, especially someone like uh myself and probably any other person who sees so many people. At times, it's important to be able to spend even if it means 15 to 30 minutes just by yourself. Um, reflect on how the day has been, what you could have done to be better. Wow. Uh, what you should do more what you need to improve on and I think um uh what makes me happy as an individual is you know, there's nothing better than when you see someone uh whose life you have been able to touch. I see so many people out on the streets. So many people out on the streets and they all tell I know that you've helped me in one way or another. I See people, uh, my tattoo guy's telling me you fought. for us, when uh, we were being told we wouldn't be able to drive at a certain hour or there was the issue of social distance themselves while at the same time, SGR and airlines were being allowed to travel, uh, freely. So, we came up with so Many of these programs, um, training for the border and the uh operators, but one of the things that has really Really, um, made me feel proud, actually, is um, we have a A program called Skills Mitani. We inherited a constituency. that had such a huge percentage of people who were A, unemployed, B, they had just dropped out of Standard Eight. The transition rate from eight to four was very, very uh a the standard from grade eight to secondary school was extremely low. So, You can't just take these people and dump them like that. Yeah. So, we had to do something. Uh, of course, now the government policies that require someone to attend secondary school, it's mandatory. Uh, so now even those who have finished secondary schools just because you got a D or a C or whatever it is does not mean you cannot do something out of your life. So, we came up with a program called Skills Mitani which has been one of the most successful, and I'm glad that It's being emulated in different parts of uh this where we allow you to choose such a variety of forms vocational training, and when I say various, it's um close to about seventy institutions and a hundred plus different causes from which you can choose, and we automatically pay for you 60%, and 40% is paid by yourself. So, this causes vary from uh, we've got people who have trained themselves in um music. We've got people who have trained themselves in first aid. We've got people who have trained themselves in cooking, um culinary cooking, baking, uh, people who do, you know, hair, uh, beauty and makeup, electrical, uh, carpentry, all These things are up to forklift operators, and we allow you to choose the institution where we will hold a major exhibition where all these institutions sell themselves and they Explain to the students. Thousands of people are walking in. Thousands, literally in the thousands. They walk in. They Choose the institution they want. They understand. that this is what they want. Uh, what it is that they prefer to do with their lives and just because you are unable to go to college or you do not go to university, it does not mean you cannot become one of the best hairstylists. You cannot Be one of the best makeup artists. You cannot be one of The best baker. You can't be one of the best, uh electric, you know, an electrician or someone comes over you and tells you that we're having um a problem and uh Once we've been able to do this, then it has worked. It's worked so well. I mean, I feel so... I mean, it's very touching when you see people who have been able to increase their livelihood from the programs that we've done. Yeah. You've really raised the bar too high. A little bit too high for the next incoming MP. I would say that because They will have a lot to do, and uh, you know, you can just Share and tell me, uh, one little secret of yours, you know? Success. It's not a secret. It's very, very open. Um Actually, there is absolutely no secret to success. Um you basically, there's an English statement you reap what you saw. If you planted maize, don't expect to get beans. Uh, and if you plant hatred, don't expect Love. If you sow discord, do not expect acceptance. And That's it, plain and simple. And I think, um, what we basically have is we have been able to plant you know I always use This statement that I've been with people during, um, their tough times during times when they needed a shoulder to lean on able to And uh, that's the reason why they're going to be with you. during the time that you feel you need people To be there for you. Um I've, I've been, uh, I've, I've, uh, fought for the rights of the people I represent in the National Assembly. Sometimes Outside the National Assembly. I've been hit by tear gas. Uh, quite Several times. Uh, I've had a disagreement with administration. But I always took my foot down. And that's What it is. There's no other secret. Being consistent in loving people. Amazing. Amazing. We're going to give The incoming governor, 2022. I truly wish you all the best. And uh I'm a personal peer supporter. You know what? This uh this He's our man and he has to take it home. Because looking at Whatever he has been able to do. You know, I keep my chances. I'm sure he would achieve greater things here in Mombasa. Uh Zero zero one. All the best in everything. Yeah. Let's stay away from hatred. Rip love. Just simply spread out the word of of of love. You know I always say I I once said this and uh it still remains the same. You cannot make everyone you meet in a day happy. But imagine if You are only to try and put a smile on three people. And Those three people put a smile on another three people. And though that makes it nine, and of those nine they put a smile on another three people. That makes it twenty-seven. And the the multiplying effect continues and continues and before you know it realize it, what started off as one simple kind gesture from yourself. Spreads out. This is how love is spread. He's I think so. For the most awards won, you know, during his term. No, we have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven Around. You know, I think this is a commendable job. This is the county gala awards this year. Yeah. Twenty twenty-two. I was given the uh best member of Parliament in the coastal region. Yes. Yes. Yes. This one, um, in recognition of my astounding performance, is the Member of Parliament, and I came in third nationally. Nationally. Yeah. Like that, from the same, but that was my work in uh, uh, CDF. And all. Yeah. This one, uh, it's a humanitarian award. I something for being honored for my tremendous efforts towards serving humanity. Yeah. Personality of the Year. These are just appreciation certificates. Things we've been able to accomplish. This one is for the youth. This was, I think, last year one of the most influential Kenyan Muslims in the 2019 Uhuru social enterprise and philanthropy. Yeah. This one was another plaque for being the best member of parliament in the coastal region for this year. Wow. I think we've got this one. This, um, uh, my support for cancer patients. Yeah. The the foundation is the one that has been able to do that. This is Uh, my outstanding performance, number one in the county of Mombasa and number three as well. Nationwide in Kenya. Yes. Uh, this is just uh, these are the very, very many. These are Incredibly many. I think these are all the schools that have been Could you give me this? It's just appreciation for uh educating the students. Many schools have provided this for Me. Yeah. I think Wow. You shouldn't look at it. And I always say this: awards don't define a person. Awards do not define a person. What defines a person is what you do on a daily basis. Awards are given simply to say, you Know, uh, just to put that emphasis. Appreciated, yes. But whether they define a person, I truly don't think so. What defines you is your character, and your character Uh, and I say this, you know, you're asking me what it is. what I have to say to the young people, especially Want to get into leadership or anything else, anything else that you do. Let me tell you, your character is not built on the big things that you rarely do. Your character is built on the small things you do constantly. That's who you are You know, you can't just do something, you know, uh Today and you call yourself, uh, you know, I'm one of the best uh uh vloggers out there or whatever it is and you've only have done one or two videos, but you'd rather do a series, you know, you continuously and then by by engaging yourself on a is when you become better, and that's what defines you. You know, this is a person who is present, consistency, being There, you know, doing all these things. Amazing. Who who else would you rather have as a leader than someone who is highly skilled, someone who possesses immense wisdom and someone who possesses the finest leadership qualities. That's It. I've had an amazing conversation with the Incoming Governor 2022. Anyway, a big shout out Behind the camera.