Karmelo Anthony Trial Judge SPEAKS OUT and Reveals Inside Details, with Eiglarsh, Aronberg, Branca

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Jun 19, 2026
Megyn Kelly is joined by Dave Aronberg, host of The MK True Crime Show, Mark Eiglarsh, host of Positively Legal, and Andrew Branca, host of The Andrew Branca Show, to discuss the Karmelo Anthony trial judge speaking out in a rare interview, whether he wishes he had cameras in the courtroom, details about the jury selection process, and more.
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AI GeneratedThis discussion centers on the conviction of 19-year-old Carmelo Anthony for the murder of Austin Metcalf. The commentary focuses on the lack of courtroom transparency, the judge's refusal to allow cameras, the absence of Black jurors, and allegations of financial misconduct regarding donation funds intended for the defendant's legal defense.
Carmelo Anthony, the now 19-year-old man in Texas who was just convicted of murdering
Austin Metcalf for no reason in a tent at a track meet, is now, well, saying that he's
penniless and he needs a court-appointed lawyer to represent him on appeal. And at the same time,
Marc Eiklar, the judge is speaking out. The judge gave an interview. You never see this. It's so
rare. But the judge gave an interview. And among the things that he spoke out about was why he did
not allow cameras in the courtroom. It's kind of interesting. SOT 35.
We'll tell you, I got some reports of some things that were coming out of this courtroom. And I
wondered to myself, were they even in the same courtroom that I was? It's that bad. And I think
that's tragic. Because I think, really, if you just listen to the case based upon the facts,
you'd understand it so much better. Do you think it reinforced your decision
to not have cameras or streaming inside this? Sort of. I will tell you this. Sometimes I think
maybe I should have at least the audio streamed or something so people could hear it. But at the
end of the day, I don't think, no matter what, people are going to distort whatever happens or
whatever they hear into their own agenda. And so what's the point? That was Collin County District
Judge John Roach interviewing with WFAA, the Dallas ABC affiliate. So I don't know, Marc. I
agree. At least audio would have been quite helpful. Absolutely. He asked, what's the point?
The point is, at least there's people like me and the two other guests who would have said,
no, that's not accurate what you're saying. We saw the testimony and we could say there's
no way that occurred. We were in the dark. And so now we're reliant upon, I'll use air quotes,
media entities who are telling us what's going on inside the courtroom.
So no, I think that he is actually reconsidering his decision.
I think if he stayed on the bench and I think he's gone soon, he would probably allow cameras
and likely that would change the energy of this whole thing. There were such distortions during
this case. People claiming he knew the Metcalfs when he didn't. You've got to have more disclosure
for the public. This is your business, Andrew. You're an expert in self-defense. And that's
what this case was all about, right? Whether Carmelo was just defending himself. I know,
right. Exactly. He purported to make it such when he plunged a knife into Austin Metcalf
for literally just laying a hand on him. Now you've seen the reaction in the wake of this
verdict where some very bizarre collective of far leftists is trying to say this was self-defense.
Black boys have boundaries and Austin Metcalf found out the hard way.
I'm not sure loons like that could have been persuaded if they had had a camera in the
courtroom watching black witnesses. One after the other testify that Carmelo Anthony was in
the wrong. They saw the whole thing, but it couldn't hurt. Well, the judge says people are
gonna make up lies about the case anyway. And that's true, of course. I mean, the Zimmerman
trial, there's tons of lies about that, the Rittenhouse trial. The difference is we were
able to watch. I watched every minute of both those trials. So when the lies are put out there,
as they inevitably are, you can have a credible, informed counter argument, the truth to contest
those lies. This judge stripped that possibility away. I mean, as my colleague says, now we have
to rely on journalists. Frankly, journalists often have their own agenda. They're trying to
spin their own narrative. But even when they're being honest, they're not lawyers. They don't know
what they're not seeing. They don't know what's important. I kept looking for reporting on,
was this subjected to, was this preserved for appeal? And it's just not in the reporting.
So we don't know. And because we can't have an actually substantively informed view about
the proceedings, we see these lies on the internet, or at least we suspect they're lies
because they're so outrageous. But there's no informed counter argument. It was terrible what
this judge did. And he could have protected those minors just by panning the camera away
from their face and we just would have gotten the audio. Yes, very good point. We've seen that done
in many trials and he chose not to do it. Now there's always gonna be this question about
whether there was some critical failure to prove that this went down as we thought it did.
Here he is, Dave, on a subject that we've been discussing, which is the absence of any black
jurors. There were minorities, but there were no black jurors. And here is what he said on Sat 38.
Like I told you before, as long as I follow the law, I sleep well at night. And I'm telling you,
I follow the law on that case. Did I know what the perception was gonna be?
Sure. I knew in the back of my mind what the perception was gonna be.
But I'm not here to satisfy perceptions. I'm not here to satisfy agendas. I'm not here to do any
of those things. I'm here to follow the law. And I did it to a tee. And I'm proud of that.
Very proud of that. Good for him. I mean, it's going to be the appellate issue, that
ineffective assistance, don't you think? Yes. But that's why we needed transparency and cameras in
the courtroom because now you have the public saying, well, you intentionally struck black
jurors. This is an unfair trial. And that is terrible because you want the community to buy
into it. And because there is no transparency here, now they just believe the worst.
And there is no set quote on how many members of certain groups have to be on a jury. You
just have to have a fair process. And if someone gave an answer in jury selection
that gets them struck, as long as they're not being struck because of race,
then it's a legitimate system and it's very unlikely to be overturned on appeal.
In fact, judges get a lot of discretion when it comes to jury selection here. And so
I think that even though they'll use that on appeal, it's unlikely to overturn this verdict.
Mark, there's this guy down in this area in Texas who's affiliated in some way with the parents or
was like kind of representing them as a supporter for a while. And his name is Charleston White.
And he came out shortly after the verdict and went off on Carmelo Anthony's parents,
like flipping against them. Here's what he said. Listen to stop 42.
I am removing myself from the Carmelo Anthony's case. I am no longer involved with the family.
And here's why. I was starting to feel like I was being used
for my influence and my connections and resources.
When I tell you we raised over one million dollars one day, privately,
quietly. They wanted to start another GoFundMe. I said, no, I'm not doing the GoFundMe.
They wanted to know after we pay for the pill, will the money go to them? No. The extra money
don't go back to you. It goes back to the people who gave it. It don't go to nothing else.
The money is Southerfield, his daddy in the way. I don't I don't like weak. I hate weak men.
I'd rather stand with a strong daddy like that Mefcalf man than his black weak father
trying to play victory. You want to get the money, but then disassociate yourself from me.
I'm here for that boy. I'm here for your son.
And if this money don't go directly to your son's appeal, you don't get this money. We sent it back.
OK, well, obviously, there's some drama going on behind the scenes there between him
and the dad. But my question to you is about these GoFundMe funds,
because they raise between six hundred and seven hundred thousand dollars.
We know the family then moved into this mansion down in the area where they've been staying
pending the trial. And I don't know. I'm going to guess that the lawyer representing Carmelo
Anthony was not top shelf based on the performance that we witnessed. I don't think he's charging
Mark Iglar fees. But my question is simply, if the parents took the give, send, go money
and spent it on themselves in some sort of lavish spending spree, I don't have proof of that.
But if they did, this guy seems to be intimating they were money hungry for themselves. Is it is
there any way of getting it back? Is there any way of Carmelo Anthony suing the parents? Give,
send, go? What? Yeah. How can that? I don't think it's going to go anywhere. It's not going to go
anywhere because this really bothered me. I don't know. I was told that that Anthony had a public
defender and that no one spent the money on a good lawyer. So this is a private lawyer that he had.
He's not. He used to be. Well, I'll tell you this. He made so many mistakes. He made so many
mistakes in that trial. Clearly, they didn't go top shelf. Right. So I read the language that was
posted on that not go fund me. It's something else. But something like give, send, go. Yeah,
whatever. And the language is so broad. It includes moving the family for their safety.
And so technically that means what? Moving them. So buying them a home. In other words,
they wouldn't they would survive a fraud accusation legally. But I think they were
intellectually dishonest. I think that most people who donated their money wanted this guy to get
the best defense possible and for the bulk of the money to go for that. And it didn't.
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