PHIL ON MAKING MILLIONS WITH ABEL MUTUA! TAXING CONTENT CREATORS WILL KlLL THE INDUSTRY

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Jun 13, 2026 #presenterali
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AI GeneratedThe interview features a producer from Feel It Productions discussing the premiere of the show *Mpakani*, the evolution of the Kenyan content industry, and the shift from traditional TV to digital distribution. The conversation highlights the importance of marketing, the challenges of government taxation on creators, and the synergy between vision and product in filmmaking.
What is your name?
Where did Mpakani premiere?
Hmm, manzi, we're really struggling
You guys are really amazing, the support you're giving is incredible
Hmm, I really appreciate the support you guys are coming through with
I think this product is fake.
We have just shown a trailer for the show.
And, you know, we
Everyone was clapping and
Yeah, so, I'menda fiti sana
Yeah, so, Imenda fiti sana. And before we start speaking about Suria
And before we start talking about Suria
TTNT4 was the last one.
Wee! TTNT4 is possible
MTM had not yet hit the jackpot.
Need to hurry up
Amen
TTNT4 is a dream come true.
Your conversations are being reviewed
Anza kuhave in
The first one was in 2020.
So we started having TTNT conversations
In 2019
And just the consistency
And kusell out kya ACC that's a dream
Come true so
Amen, I am tired.
Feel fit
We've been having
This conversation
Kenyan viewers consume Kenyan content
Do you feel like at this time
Kenyan people are truly consuming Kenyan content.
Oh, absolutely, look at you guys
Manzi metuwa mainstream media work
The truth of the matter is
It's not that Kenyans were not
Consuming Kenyan content
It's us as producers
We were not supplying them with the content.
So our content wasn't reaching them.
Now they can access our content.
Directly on their phone
We were not marketing and selling enough.
Now we are doing that, we are making noise
We are marketing, we are doing everything.
So the Kenyans were ready
To watch our content
We as content creators were not
Giving them enough
As a producer
Have you ever thought
About doing a reality show
Of the Common Mananchi
With an international host
Like a Boda Boda driver
Or a politician
I'll be very honest
As Feel It Productions
We focus more on fictional shows
Creating shows
But I have a good friend called Eugene Mbogwa.
He does very nice reality shows.
He has done Real Houses of Nairobi.
He has done
What was the name of the show?
Something
It's a local show.
He is really, really good with
Reality shows
But
Whenever in our scripts we attempt to portray
Such real characters
Our stories won't be about Boda.
They won't be about Mbogwa
Let's talk a little
We have seen
The trailer is absolutely amazing.
I'm sure you've seen the entire series.
But I want to know
Looking at the product
And what you envisioned
Are they in line?
What is greater than the other?
Is it the product or the vision?
From Mpakani in terms of the product
I was not part of the process.
Of producing Mpakani
Mpakani has started to interact now
At the distribution point
But for us
Our vision has been
Getting
Kenyan stories
To the Kenyans
To the Kenyan people
Talking to the Mpakani team
And the Foxton Media team
That has produced Mpakani
They came up to us and were like
No, we are not thinking of looking for
International distributors
We chose Kenyans
And there is no one to talk to, Kenyans.
So our visions aligned on that.
And from there
We watched it, we were like, yes.
Finally
These movies we have been watching
Hollywood when it comes to action sequences
These people are lying to us
Wait, wait, wait
With Mpakani
They worked with security forces.
And they were told
The thing you saw in the movie
The ring on the grenade
It will stay for a few minutes.
Before it explodes
People are firing a machine gun.
But they are still talking
Machine guns are so loud.
If you fire a proper machine gun
In front of you
You go deaf for a few seconds
I would like to know
Are you feeling it in production?
The people who are going to be distributing it
What strategy are you using?
Making noise means you make noise
Across all major platforms
Digital is huge.
So definitely
Working in partnership with you guys
Online media
Our online social media pages
We are going to have a media tour.
For the cast and crew of Mpakani
We are going to do
Branding
You might start seeing bus branding
Hopefully some billboards
Even if we want to go out into the streets
With billboards we will go
The budget is enormous.
In Kenya we don't say
You have enough budget; just make it work.
There is no one who has
An okay budget
But we cannot keep
Making excuses
You call in favors
Like you guys
We just talked to Kido.
He told me not to worry.
We will be there.
You have been in the industry
Even before digital
And right now, digital is the main thing.
How would you say
The industry has changed.
In terms of content creation
And content consumption
Because you've been there before digital
And right now during digital
First of all
I feel like I'm getting old.
But I'm okay.
Before digital
And I will begin with digital migration.
When we were in Tahiti
There were only about 7 TV stations.
In this entire country
Now I think we have more than 200 TV stations.
In this country
And then there's the internet and social media
So what has happened is
Our audience is spoiled for choice.
Back then when we were in Tahiti
You would get viewership.
Like 98%
98% of homes in this country
Those had TVs during our time.
On Tuesday at 7:30 we were watching Tahiti Hive.
You will never get that again.
Ever
In terms of content creation
I think we should just create a niche now.
Find a way to survive with them
Targeting the entire country
It will be difficult.
As far as money is concerned as well
Back then, the money was channeled
To specific stations
Now the money is in the hands of the people.
Corporations are spending more money on influencers.
Than they were spending on television
So for us as filmmakers
Find a way to create that balance
Where and how can we work with actors?
Who has good numbers online?
And we mesh
And find ways now
What we are doing with Philly TV selling directly to Kenyans
Because waiting for a take
From a corporate
Now that is over
I would like to know
What does it take for a content creator
To get a job in Philly
Productions
Conversations
There are no established criteria
You have a good piece of content
Schedule a meeting with us
Let's have a seat
Let's watch the content first
From there
A video on Philly TV
Does not guarantee that it will sell
You need an entire strategy.
You need a whole budget
You need a complete marketing plan.
Those are the things I am most interested in.
You have a good piece of content
Let's have a seat
What's your plan?
You want to sell it to
50,000 Kenyans
So how do we sell it to 50,000 Kenyans?
What's your plan?
What's your budget?
It's not a short-term thing.
It's conversations over a period of time
We have seen this story.
Content creators might be taxed
What are your thoughts on that?
I feel like content creation
Is such a young industry
Our government
Unfortunately, if they do this
They are going to destroy the industry.
Before it grows
A good example is the
Nairobi Securities Exchange
It used to thrive
Then the government began imposing taxes
The earnings from
Stock sales
That's how investors gave up
That's how Nairobi Stock Exchange
Dipped
So I feel
It might affect us because
We are already struggling to make
A little money from content creation
If it starts getting taxed
Then how do I reinvest in the business?
I think
Content creation can generate
Billions of dollars
If we give it time
And if the government gives us room to expand
And explode
Maybe I can add
The government can also
Create content
If you want to make money from content creation
Rather than taxing
The president can also
Create his own content
One interesting thing I'd love to know
Have you been working with Abel?
For a very long time
Right now we're looking at you guys.
As friends, working together
And probably making millions
How does it feel?
What are some of the characters?
That you are like
Working with Abel is not easy.
I'll be very honest
I've been very lucky to work with Abel.
Because our visions
Have always been aligned
We met in college.
And from college
Our visions synced
We wanted the same goals.
We wanted to achieve the same things
So it hasn't been a hassle.
We have been
On brand
So we've been on brand
I think the hardest thing
Working with Abel is
Mukuru Genzy is a major brand.
If not the biggest brand in this country
So his schedule is crazy.
Even I
I have to work on a schedule.
How we work with Abel
I have to book him in advance.
He is my son.
And it's a beautiful thing
That's exactly why we worked so hard.
We wanted to get
To this point where
We are generating revenue.
And income from all sources
You did ClickBang
Which was very successful
Can you tell us
What are you all working on right now?
I think there's a prize
I assume
I think Abel
On his channel
He said
People guessing which movie will be next
And there's a price tag
So I won't tell you
There's KSh 10,000
On the line
My son
I have signed the NDA.
It's in the works
The first draft is out
So
I am working on the premiere
Amazing
Thank you so much
Thank you
Good job
Thank you
