Tuesday, Jun 9 – Hour 2

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Chris talks about some interesting developments with the MassGOP.
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AI GeneratedHost Chris McCarthy discusses Massachusetts politics, focusing on GOP internal conflicts, election integrity, and the intersection of offshore wind energy with national security. The program blends news analysis with community concerns, highlighting local economic struggles in New Bedford and upcoming municipal elections in Fairhaven.
Good morning, good morning.
Welcome to the second hour of
the program.
Thank you for joining me.
So it'll be kind of open phones,
if something's on your mind.
I got some callers that hung
around through the news break.
I appreciate that.
And I'm going to talk about
Sean Oliver, who's running for
lieutenant governor,
Republican nominee.
Challenging some of the other
candidates, well,
one of the other candidates,
who may have gotten this
signatures through fraud.
And that's playing out in
the pages of the Boston Globe.
You can see it online at
boston.com, the Boston Globe.
Many of you get the online
version, some of you get
the paper version.
It's an interesting article,
we'll talk more about it.
Let's go to the phones.
Good morning, thanks for holding.
Yes, good morning.
Hey, good morning.
This is Mr.
East Freetown talking to you.
How are you, Mr.
East Freetown, my former neighbor?
I'm getting there.
I've been having problems with
a lot of asthma lately.
And I'm starting to feel better
with the sun being out.
Why I wanted to talk to you,
Chris, is people is,
I don't know how they think.
Here's what I'm going to tell you.
Okay. We have a lot of Portuguese
that live in New Bedford.
Yes.
We have a lot of Portuguese people
that live in Fall River.
I've heard that.
A lot of Portuguese down at
Cape Cod.
Yes.
A lot of Portuguese in East
Providence and that area.
And we also have a lot of people
that are Portuguese that live
in Connecticut.
Okay, so if I was FIFA and
I was doing this program,
I would have had the soccer,
the Portuguese team right here
in Foxborough.
Where is the Portuguese team?
They're not playing in Foxborough?
No, they're playing somewhere far
away, I think in California or
somewhere.
How could you be doing that?
To me, that's ridiculous.
You know, this is the area.
Put them here.
But I guess they don't think you
have to go by their rules.
Can you imagine paying $180 to
park your car at Foxborough-
I cannot.
If you go see the soccer?
Is that what they're
going to charge?
Yeah, $180 to park your car.
Isn't that ridiculous?
Good Lord, that's crazy.
And the other, before I finish
talking to you,
one more thing I want to say.
You know, with this new idea of
having the bars open till 3 in
the morning, are they going to
enforce the last call?
A lot of bars say, last call,
that's it, no more drinks after
this.
Would they do something like that
at quarter past 2 in the morning
or 2.30?
I was wondering if they would do
that.
So it's brand new ground for
all of us.
I don't know what the governor is
going to do.
I mean, do we trust her management
skills that this is going to come
off the way it should?
I don't.
No, she's got bad management
skills.
Yes.
As far as I'm concerned,
she's been a big letdown.
I mean, you're not going to have
people getting drinks at 10 minutes
to 3 or 5 minutes to 3.
And then coming out, to me,
they should have like a last call,
that's it.
2.30 or something, last call,
you're all done.
Will you be out there?
I will not be.
Will you be out there at 2 o'clock
in the morning looking for a-
Absolutely not.
Okay, all right.
I'm glad to hear that.
I'll tell you about when we were
having parties.
I think I have mentioned it to you,
I haven't drank since.
You know, we had a party one time
and I drank so much and we all drank
so much, going home to East Freetown,
I went on the wrong part of the 140.
And I said to myself, oh my God,
these cars are coming to me,
I got to be on the wrong place.
So I was lucky I didn't get caught.
I turned around,
And got off of Bailey Road and
I got on the right thing to get
back to East Freetown.
I got back to the right part of
140 going to East Freetown.
So after that,
that was the end of my drinking.
Yeah, that's good.
No, you learned your lesson.
I could have been killed and
that would have been it for
my family and my boys and
everything else.
No, yeah, alcohol is not something
to fool around with.
That's right, you're right.
Hey, thanks for the call.
I hope your summer's going well.
You take care.
Thank you, my friend.
Don't be a stranger.
My former neighbor.
Yeah, look, I think a lot of people
have stories like that.
You drank too much because you
don't know who you are.
Drinking alcohol really changes
people, okay?
It does, we all know that.
And some people can handle it,
some people cannot.
So I'm glad that gentleman who told
that, that's a harrowing story,
right?
To be on the wrong side of
the road, heading head on into
traffic, I'm glad he doesn't drink
anymore, and I don't, look,
I'm not going to be out there in
the bars at 2 o'clock,
1 o'clock in the morning.
That's just not what I do.
But I am concerned about
the employees coming home, and
do you think they're going to make
more money, less money?
I don't, anyway.
I'm not sure what's going to
happen, I'm really not.
And every bar will be different.
And every bar, every restaurant
knows their clientele and
whether they have a reason to stay
open later, so we'll see.
We'll see,
it's an interesting experiment.
508-996-0500,
that's how you can get on the air.
By the way, there are actually
a lot of Portuguese people
in California.
There's a lot around here,
obviously, and
we're for the better for it.
But there are a lot in California.
I'm trying to think of his name.
Nunes, okay?
Devin Nunes,
who's now the head of Trump media.
He was the ranking Republican on,
I think the Intelligence Committee.
Devin Nunes, and he's Portuguese.
Parents, I believe, are immigrants.
And they live in California.
They got a big farm out there.
But I know, because he comes here,
when he comes here,
he used to go to Inner Bay quite
a bit when he'd be in the Northeast.
He would try to stop at the Inner
Bay in New Bedford, which is where
I regularly go to as well.
I've never seen him there, but
I've heard that.
So, and I know that there are a lot
of Portuguese people, for
whatever reason, out in California.
Not just here in the Northeast, but
there's a lot of them here in
the Northeast as well.
And there's a lot in Florida these
days now, too.
508-996-0500, open phones.
It's on your mind.
I want to hear about it.
Good morning.
Thanks for holding.
The bars in New Bedford,
a lot of them are closed at 8 o'clock
because there's no business and
people don't have the money to drink.
And the bars that will do well in
New Bedford will be the Portuguese
sports bars, bars like that.
because they go wild for their
soccer, because I used to hang
around Portuguese clubs, a lot of
them, but a lot of them are closing
down at 8 o'clock.
Yeah, I couldn't believe it.
I went to the Madeira Club a couple
of weeks ago to get a draft.
Yeah.
Here, and they were closed, and
it was like 9 o'clock.
I said, what is this?
So then I went down to
the Ponto da Gata.
That was another bar I used to go
to. They were closed, too.
And I found out that no one's got
money, and they're not closing
the bars early.
So the only ones that will do well
is Punto Luzo, Portuguese sports,
bars like that, I think.
I'm going to tell you, though,
I don't know about late, but
I was at a restaurant on Sunday
night in Wareham.
The place was packed.
We had to wait for about 15 minutes
for a table.
So people have money.
They're out there.
Yeah, but I mean, on the weekends,
the bar will open later.
But during the week,
they're closed at 8 o'clock.
It's really strange,
because they used to be open until
the regular closing time of those
bars that I used to frequent.
Quite often, quite often.
Yeah, I would never be able to.
All right.
Thanks for the call.
I do appreciate it.
508-9960.
If I keep reminding you,
it is election day here in Fairhaven.
There are reasons to go to the polls.
You got a lot of options.
Quality candidates from a lot of
different perspectives, really,
for the select board.
So you got some real good choices
there.
Planning board,
there's competitive election.
There's a proposition,
two and a half override forever in
a day.
In other words,
it's a general override,
not just for a debt exclusion.
So you've got some real thinking to
do about your own personal
circumstances and desires for
the town of Fairhaven before you
take that vote.
And you got today to think about it
because the polls close,
what about 8 o'clock?
8 o'clock, I think tonight, right?
508-9960-500.
So what's this article in
the Boston Globe?
The title is The Scrum.
That's a rugby title, actually.
Speaking of foreign sports,
The Scrum is where they're all
trying to get at the ball, right?
The Scrum, the Massachusetts GOP
own worst enemy.
The Democrats aren't the only ones
trying to knock Republicans off
the September ballot.
One Republican is two.
This is the Boston Globe.
Days after Massachusetts Democrats
challenged the nomination papers
filed by two Republicans running
statewide, including Lieutenant
Governor Hopeful and Manning Martin.
Fellow Lieutenant Governor Hopeful,
Sean Oliver, quietly filed his own
challenge against Manning Martin,
his would-be primary rival, okay?
I'm reading from the Boston Globe.
And he seems to be taking his
complaint to the next level.
While Oliver also filed an objection
with the State Ballot Law
Commission, alleging that, quote,
numerous signatures Manning Martin
handed in by last week's deadline
had been, quote, fraudulently
obtained, all of his camp,
is also pressing for answers.
His lawyer, Dan Winslow,
I know Dan, he's a quality guy.
Bristol County guy,
Attleboro, North Attleboro.
He's a former Republican state
lawmaker, judge, and chief counsel
to then Governor Mitt Romney,
is seeking testimony from Joe
Bronski, the signature gatherer,
at the center of the controversy,
okay?
So Dan Winslow used to be the lawyer
for Mitt Romney, he was a judge,
he was a state representative,
is representing Sean Oliver's
campaign, okay?
And he wants to depose Joe Bronski,
who gathered the signatures for
Anne Manning Martin,
who's a Peabody City Council.
Back to the article.
Winslow has asked that Joe Bronski
sit for a deposition by Friday or
testify before the commission.
He also sent Manning Martin
a list of questions he wants
answered under oath, including when
she or her campaign first learned
the signatures that Bronski had
collected may have been fraudulent.
And what steps her campaign took
to verify the viability of
the signatures before submitting
them.
These are really good questions.
Doesn't surprise me.
Dan is an excellent attorney.
All right, I'll come back to
the article.
But first, we got to take a break.
Stick around if you're on hold.
We'll be right back.
Back to Chris McCarthy and
South Coast now on WBSM.
Call 508-996-0500.
Of course, written by
Paul Overstreet.
I was wearing one of Paul Overstreet's
t-shirts the other day,
a gift from Lenny Mills.
They're beautiful t-shirts.
I know that Tim Dunn from
the Boston Arrow pointed out on
the air.
You can get them at
pauloverstreet.com if you're
interested, check them out.
All right, so this article,
remember, I'm reading from
the Boston Globe, okay?
So the Boston Globe has never
endorsed a Republican, not in my
lifetime that I recall, really.
And nor would most Republicans want
their endorsement, the El Globo,
right?
So they go on to point out.
Now again, by the way,
Brian Shortsleeve and
Sean Oliver will be having
a rally today, tonight, 6 to 8 PM.
It'll be a beautiful night for it.
Travelers Alehouse here in
Fairhaven, I understand it's going
to be an enormous crowd,
doesn't surprise me.
So check it out if you'd like,
open to the public,
open to everybody, head on down.
So Sean is challenging,
by the way, rightfully so.
Let me say something.
If your opponent, you believe,
rightfully, if you have what you
believe to be credible information,
okay?
If it's not credible,
you're only going to
embarrass yourself.
In this case, I believe Sean has
credible information to challenge
his opponent, one of his opponents,
for lieutenant governor,
access to the ballot.
You cannot allow fraudulent
gathering of signatures to,
you cannot reward that type of
behavior, whether the woman knew it
or not, okay?
You cannot reward that kind of,
we've had problems like this
locally, where people run,
they forge signatures.
To me, they ought to be criminally
charged.
Now, we'll see what comes out of
this.
It's likely that Ann Manning-Martin
had no idea.
But I like that Sean's lawyer
is probing, what did she know?
And when did she know it?
Because her reputation deserves to
be salvaged or salvaged, right?
Based on what she knew.
Was she a victim?
Or was she a willing participant?
We don't know.
But thanks to Sean Oliver,
chairman of the local Republican
party in the city of New Bedford,
we might find out the truth, okay?
So the Boston Globe goes on to say,
the move by Oliver puts Oliver a
bit at odds with his own party.
After Democrats filed their
challenge to Ann Manning-Martin,
MASH GOP chairman, Amy Carnivali,
said the party stood behind its
candidates, including Michael Walsh,
its endorsed candidate for
Attorney General, who is also
facing an objection over the
signatures he filed.
Okay, Boston Globe goes on to say,
voters deserve contested races,
real choices, and confidence that
the election laws will be applied
fairly and consistently.
That's a quote by Amy Carnivali,
chairman of the Republican Party.
Carnivali said in a statement last
week, the outrage from the
Massachusetts Democrats rings
hollow.
They routinely oppose common sense
election integrity measures, yet
now claim sudden concern as
statewide races heat up.
But following Oliver's challenge,
the statement, well,
rings a little hollow,
says the Boston Globe.
A MASH GOP spokesperson declined
to comment on Oliver's objection
on Monday.
Oliver's campaign, meanwhile,
said that it's all in the name of
protecting elections.
By the way, I agree with
the Oliver campaign on that,
because, look, you cannot allow
fraud to carry the day.
You just can't, okay?
You can't.
And Sean Oliver went out,
literally, I'm one of the signatures
that helped qualify him for
the ballot.
I know that he hired qualified
people to go get signatures, but
he also personally went out and
got them.
He took my signature right here in
this studio.
So, Sean Oliver did the work.
He got on the ballot at
the convention level, then again,
by gathering the signatures.
And I think it would be derelict on
his part if he just ignored
credible charges of fraud on his
political party, right?
Remember, if you get on the ballot
as a Republican using fraudulent
methods, that's a crime against
the Republican Party, okay?
That's a crime against
the Republican Party, just like
it's a crime against the Democrat
party if people get on the Democrat
line using fraudulent methods,
okay?
So the party has to stand up, and
the candidates themselves have to
stand up for
the integrity of the election.
So, and again, I get what
the Globe's trying to do, and
I appreciate it because that's
propaganda, and that's kind of what
they do for the Democrats, all
right, 508-996-0500.
This guy Bromski, again,
everybody's innocent until
proven guilty in a court of law.
But he's done, it's alleged that
he's committed acts that are,
as I pointed out earlier,
a crime figuratively against
the Republican Party, of which he
purports to be a member.
He's on one of the local town
Republican committees,
I think he's chairman.
He's also appointed by the select
board in his town to the registrar
of voters, that's like the
Elections Commission in the city.
He holds one of the positions for
the major party,
the Republicans, in that town.
I think it's Braintree,
I think so, Joe Bromski.
So I'm glad that Sean Oliver is
pushing forward using a really
talented lawyer, Dan Winslow,
Bristol County guy, to try to get
to the bottom of what happened here.
Who knew what, and
when did they know it?
Does it serve Sean?
Yeah, but I think it also serves
all of us who vote in elections,
okay?
You do not want fraudulent means
to carry the day.
And I think Anne Manny Martin may
end up being a victim here,
depending on what she knew and
when she knew it.
Now, there's a statement here that
Amy Cannavale is sticking by
Anne Brinsley.
Well, that statement is no longer
operative, okay?
Because I've interviewed Amy
Cannavale last week, we had her on,
she's a regular here on the program,
and I'm happy to have the chairman
of the Republican Party here
regularly.
Amy basically said, it's time for
Anne Brinsley to move on, okay?
And maybe return to focusing on
the community that she represents
on the select board, but
she's not going to be
the lieutenant governor candidate,
okay?
That's not going to happen.
And if you can complain all she
wants, and she very well may be
a victim, or she might be involved.
I don't know, I do not know.
I've literally never spoken to
the woman, I've never met her.
And the other thing this Globe
article points out, something I've
been pointing out for quite a while.
The Republican Party,
which I traditionally vote for,
has really given the Democrats
a free pass in most elections this
year.
So the question is asked at
the bottom of this article,
how sparse is the Republican slate
across 258 different seats on
the September primary ticket,
statewide, legislative, and
county seats included, okay?
The party didn't put up a candidate
in a hundred seats,
183 of them, or 71% of the Democrats
are running unopposed, okay?
It's crazy, it's crazy.
However, we do have a competitive
governor's race, competitive,
possibly lieutenant governor's
race, that remains to be seen.
But our guy, at least my guy,
is on the ballot.
Sean Oliver is on the ballot.
If you've never met Sean,
he's a really interesting guy,
good guy.
I think you'll find the experience
enjoyable, and
you can do it tonight if you'd like.
He'll be in Fairhaven from 6 to 8.
They're doing a unity rally.
He and his running mate,
gubernatorial candidate Brian
Shortsleeve, they're having
a unity rally here in Fairhaven.
6 to 8 PM, I'd get there early at
the Travelers Ale House on Route 6.
I would say plenty of parking, but
I think that is dependent on what
time you get there.
They've got a big parking lot, but
I think you want to get there
earlier rather than later.
One of the interesting things is
that the primary election for
the Republican Party is heavily
weighted towards Bristol County,
Plymouth County, and
the Cape Cod area, okay?
Barnstable County.
So Plymouth County, Barnstable
County, and now Bristol County for
the last couple of years have been
heavy factors in the outcome of
the Republican primary, okay,
statewide.
So as an example, the Boston Globe
and Suffolk University did a poll.
I talked about it last week for
the Republican primary.
When you look at where they did
the poll, less than 5% of
the people polled came out of
Suffolk County.
Suffolk County is the city of
Boston, the suburbs of Winthrop and
Revere, and the entire city
of Boston.
So that's Jamaica Plain,
South Boston, Dorchester,
Roxbury, right, all those
neighborhoods that make up
the city of Boston.
Plus the city of Revere and
the suburb of Winthrop,
beautiful town Winthrop,
got a lot of good friends there.
And that is Suffolk County.
Now that's enormous in the general
election, but in the Republican
primary, traditionally,
it's less than 5% of the vote.
So when Suffolk University did
the poll of likely Republican
voters looking for a model,
they concentrated on Bristol County,
Southeastern Mass, and Cape Cod,
okay?
So that's really interesting
because Sean Oliver is in
the biggest city in Bristol County,
one of the biggest cities in
the Commonwealth,
the city of New Bedford.
And by the way, he's likely to be
the only Republican candidate who
qualifies for the ballot, okay?
Which means whoever wins
the governor's race is going to be
running with New Bedford City
councilor, Sean Oliver.
Either it's Brian Shortsley,
the man who selected Sean Oliver to
be his running mate, running with
Sean, or it could be Mike Minogue
running with Sean Oliver.
Either way, Sean Oliver will be on
your ballot in September.
He may be the only candidate that
you have to vote for
in the September primary,
which I think is absolutely
mind-boggling, right?
Sean Oliver, not only the first guy
from New Bedford, since when,
I don't know, World War II,
to run statewide out of New Bedford,
may end up being the only candidate
on the ballot for
Lieutenant Governor in September.
And by the way, I think he would
have won anyway, but therefore,
the de facto winner, right?
There's no contest.
He's the only one who met
the minimum standards to get on
the ballot, it's just wild.
And I'm pretty excited for
the man, really, and for
the region, because I think we all
win when Sean Oliver wins.
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Welcome back to the program.
It's Jimmy Buffett,
doing a little Grateful Dead.
So really interesting story.
I know I say that all the time,
but it's true.
In the new Bedford Light,
about someone I call a friend,
a regular here on the program.
Many of you have gotten to know
her through this program,
Megan Lapp.
Megan Lapp, gutter start,
building fishing nets in Fairhaven
and New Bedford.
Scott Lang's a big fan of her.
I know she worked with
Richie Canastro on a lot of
fishing issues.
She's been brought into
the Trump administration.
Megan Lapp, regular advisor of mine.
I ask her a lot of questions.
She's been a regular guest here on
the program.
She's now a member of the Trump
administration,
working in the Interior Department,
which is, I think, fantastic.
Absolutely fantastic.
That a regular guest of this
program would be identified by
the people in Washington to bring
up there.
Again, a local person, local woman
who knows this area and understands
the fishing industry really well.
New Bedford Light has an article
all about it.
We'll play a little clip of it.
But I would encourage you to go to
New Bedford Light, read the article.
And Megan Lapp, who many of you
know because of her appearances,
regular appearances,
here on the program, has now joined
the Trump administration.
Trump administration hires
offshore wind critic to join
wind regulator by Anastasia E Lennon.
A longtime offshore wind critic is
now employed by the federal agency
regulating offshore wind.
Megan Lapp, who has served as
a fisheries liaison for
Rhode Island commercial fishing
company Sea Freeze Limited,
now works for the Bureau of Ocean
Energy Management,
the Light confirmed Monday.
Lapp has been a longtime critic of
BOEM over its review and approval
of offshore wind projects,
often citing concerns about impacts
to the commercial fishing industry
in Wales.
She was involved in lawsuits against
the federal government over its
approval of wind projects,
including Vineyard Wind.
As a fishing industry representative,
she often expressed opposition
through detailed comment letters
complete with figures and footnotes
during BOEM's years long
reviews of projects,
several of which are now in the water.
It is unclear what her position
is within BOEM or when she started.
A spokesperson with the Interior
Department late last week declined
to confirm whether Lapp was employed
by BOEM or answer questions,
stating the agency has no comment
related to personnel.
A spokesperson for BOEM,
a bureau within Interior,
has not responded to inquiries.
Ahead of submitting a public records
request on Lapp,
the Light confirmed her employment
with BOEM through its Freedom
of Information Act office.
The office had no information
to share on her position or title
within the agency.
Lapp has a master's degree in legal
science from Queen's University Belfast.
She sits on an advisory council
for the New England Legal Foundation,
a non-profit law firm that addresses
policy and constitutional concerns
related to free enterprise,
according to its website.
She also used to work in New Bedford,
making nets and gear
for commercial fishing vessels.
With Sea Freeze,
she represented the company's interests
regarding offshore wind
and fisheries management
with government bodies at the local,
state, and federal level.
Lapp has appeared on Fox News
several times to talk about
offshore wind, stating last fall
that offshore wind farms
will destroy the planet
and degrade national security.
National security is the latest
argument the Trump administration
has used to try to stop
offshore wind construction.
Not to mention just Fox News,
she also appeared numerous times
on this program as well.
And the national security issue,
listen, Megan Lapp is highly
qualified.
She's a local person.
And she explained to us repeatedly
about the national security
implications because of radar.
She understands radar really well.
And I've talked with other boat
owners about the problems with
offshore wind, radar,
when the Coast Guard is looking to
do searches by air,
they're really inhibited by these
giant windmills out there.
I mean, it's just common sense.
But also the fact that,
Megan's a really good researcher.
As she was, as mentioned,
she has a master's degree from
Northern Ireland in legal studies,
which is all about research.
And she had all this research done.
She had mined all these different
papers, all about the effects of
offshore wind on radars.
And really,
really knowledgeable person.
And I'm glad the federal government
has recognized her expertise and
brought her in, in some role,
into the Interior Department.
And that's good for everybody,
including national security, but
also for the fishing industry.
And quite frankly, for
offshore wind, because if you can't
do it safely, why invest the money?
Maybe Megan Lapp should have been
brought in by Biden to explain why
this was a bad way to invest money,
okay?
And that these offshore wind
companies are not going to be able
to do it because it impacts
national security.
And that why get them involved
spending all this money,
if ultimately it's going to
interfere with national security.
Which is the reason countries have
militaries, the reason countries
exist to defend their citizens.
So maybe by ignoring Megan Lapp,
which is what the Biden
administration did, and a lot of
local Democrats ignored her as well.
Maybe they would have been better
off listening to her a little bit,
the way Donald Trump is.
Take a break, we'll be right,
if you're on hold, stay there,
we'll be right back.
To the program, I'm Chris McCarthy.
Remember, if you live in Fairhaven,
today's your opportunity to go out
and vote.
You got a competitive election for
select board, planning board.
There's also a proposition,
two and a half overrides.
So, go vote and
then you can complain about
the results for the rest of the year.
So it's kind of nice, 508-996-0.
Open phones,
whatever you want to talk about.
Good morning, thanks for holding.
I guess I didn't want to talk.
They couldn't hang 508-996-0.
So again, I know that a lot of
people are all for offshore wind.
And look, I get the mayor's point
of view about if you have a local
project like that, inevitably,
there's going to be local economic
development.
And that there's a very interesting
article in Commonwealth Magazine.
I think it's Commonwealth Beacon.
Now, like Beacon Street or
Beacon Hill, Commonwealth Beacon.
I always just knew of it as
Commonwealth Magazine, but
I guess it's Commonwealth Beacon
Magazine now.
Check it out.
It's a local article about
offshore wind, quotes John Mitchell,
quotes Andrew Saunders, who's not
only a member of the Fairhaven
Select Board, but he also is
involved in ocean construction,
offshore construction,
all over the world really, has been.
And now has what formerly was
the power plant on the waterfront.
That's all cleaned up.
Commonwealth Magazine interviews
Andrew as well, Andrew Saunders,
about offshore wind and the future.
And look, both Andrew Saunders and
John Mitchell, in my conversations
with them, are not pessimistic.
In other words,
this is the way politics is.
Anything that's heavily dependent
upon politics, which is what
offshore wind is, heavily dependent
upon government subsidies.
And most industries,
most power companies are heavily
dependent upon regulation, right?
If the regulators won't let you do
it, you can't do it.
That's the way we do it here
in America.
So, they are, I would say,
optimistic for the future.
They recognize that Donald Trump is
sour towards offshore wind.
He doesn't really believe in it,
in terms of its capabilities.
There's a lot of capabilities
to question.
But if you're Andrew Saunders,
if you're John Mitchell,
you recognize that it's probably
good for New Bedford.
And so, they're just going to wait
Trump out.
That's how I read the article.
You can check it out yourself
at Commonwealth Magazine.
That when Donald Trump goes, and
eventually he will,
he's term limited.
And maybe there'll be a Republican
after that.
