The first time Jennifer Aniston and Lisa Kudrow sat down for Actors on Actors, it was over Zoom at the height of the pandemic. Now, reunited in person, the ‘Friends’ stars sit down to reminisce about their time spent on the legendary sitcom. They discuss the ways that Kudrow’s ‘The Comeback’ hints at the ‘Friends’ legacy, Aniston’s role in ‘The Morning Show’ and the ‘Friends’ lines that still crack them up.
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Two former *Friends* co-stars reunite to reflect on their shared history, the unique energy of multi-cam sitcoms, and their professional evolution. They discuss the collaborative spirit of *Friends*, the intricacies of executive producing, and the thematic depth of *The Comeback*, while touching upon the industry's shift toward AI and the enduring power of human performance.
All this stuff still feels like yesterday.
No, it doesn't to me.
It doesn't?
There are things that Phoebe says that at the time were like,
isn't that stupid?
And then it's actually...
And now I'm, yeah, no, I think that's actually how it works.
I almost slid on a giant booger.
Oh, cameras are here.
Okay.
Insta.
All right.
So then, hello, Jennifer.
Hello, Lisa.
My plush.
Cute.
So the last time we did this...
Was on Zoom.
During lockdown.
Yeah.
I know.
In 2020.
Was it? Oh, wow.
Right?
Well, 2020.
Hi.
Hi, plushie plush.
Hey, you.
That was...
Oh, right. Lockdown was 2020.
Right.
Which feels like, boy, we've come a long way.
Yeah.
Lots happened.
Well, COVID, that's done.
That's done.
You know, just let's pick the good things.
Right. That's over.
Right.
And we are all now living amongst each other and back to being in the same rooms and connecting.
Right. And we can do actor on actor in person.
In person.
Yeah.
And I get to be with you again.
I know.
It's important.
I haven't seen you in so long.
So long. You've been so busy.
And it's a year and a half.
No.
Well, because that's when I started working on the comeback, writing and stuff.
And it's like being in a...
Yeah.
I don't know.
You were like, I can't.
I can't.
So much work.
I'm also so single focused.
Well, which is good.
I can't. But it was a lot of work.
It's a lot of work.
Yeah. But you're busy too. You're always busy. And then you're okay. And you have time to do things.
And I can't.
Well, you're maybe more professional than I am.
Yeah. Looks like it.
You never look like you know what you're doing.
I never know what I'm doing.
That's not true. We've talked about Friends. You...
We did.
Because we did that before we did the reunion.
We did. That was right. The reunion was supposed to happen March.
Right.
20 something.
Yeah.
23rd or 25th. Why do I know that number?
Because you know things. You remember things and you know things.
We were supposed to do the reunion March of 2020.
Yeah.
We were meeting at Courtney's.
Yes.
All of us to talk about what we were going to do, what it was going to look like.
Right.
And then that happened. And then we ended up... When did we do the reunion? In 21?
Yeah.
2021.
Boy, oh boy.
Like February or March, April. Jesus.
I don't remember anything.
Yes. But it was like right when... See, this is fascinating. It was...
Just us trying to remember things.
One week wasn't that you could get vaccines. So half of us had started that together.
Yeah. Oh, and you also had said that you had never... I knew this though.
You never watched Friends.
I hadn't. I hadn't. Not since...
And I actually remember always thinking to myself, really? How could she never watch Friends?
Except for when we would gather in the very, very beginning, beginning back in the early 1900s.
In the last century.
Yes. And we thought, oh, that would be fun. Remember,
we would always get together and we would watch the show at one of our homes.
Yes. It was really fun.
Yeah.
And then we got busy.
And then we didn't care.
And remember, we also used to watch us shoot the scenes of the set.
Like, that was great.
We did. But we still did that. Didn't we?
No.
We didn't.
No. I remember that so differently.
But not because of, you know, we didn't care about each other.
Right.
Then it was just like, yeah, you know what you're doing. You're great.
Because we would look to each other for, what do you think?
What do you think? Also help me. I need a better joke.
Yeah. What do you think?
Do I ask for?
Yeah.
And then we just didn't need to do that anymore. And we were up in our rooms and,
You know, entertaining guests.
Did we have televisions in the room?
Yes. We did.
Did they show the, were they showing what we were shooting?
Yes.
Oh, that's great.
They did.
So we did see it. We were watching each other.
Could have been.
But not on the floor.
Right. Not on the floor. Anyway, so there were whole episodes that I hadn't seen.
Yeah.
Put together. And I just couldn't sit there at home and have anybody
walk by seeing me watching a show that I'm in.
Yeah.
Because it felt like embarrassing to me.
Just like, oh, I'm here. I am watching myself.
Yeah.
Be brilliant and funny.
Well, and I wouldn't feel that way.
I know you always, you never thought you were funny.
I mean, watching it, sometimes I would just be like, he's her lobster.
And I just wanted to, like, why that voice?
Because it was funny.
Oh, God. The bloopers though. The bloopers are so, that's my favorite.
Me too.
You could, when Lisa broke, I'm about to talk to the audience as if there's an audience.
When Lisa Kudrow would break, it was one of the most enjoyable moments of my entire life.
Because the laugh, I mean, just there you go.
But so unprofessional.
No, there was times when you'd even apologize to the audience.
You'd go, I can't wait for you to hear it because it's so funny.
I'm sorry.
Better be worth it too.
Oh, boy.
You broke a lot too, thank God.
Because I've watched bloopers and so thank God.
All the time.
It wasn't just me. And yeah, okay, good.
And Court would not break. No, she would sometimes break.
So then she started to put her scripts in the sink and write it on the fruit.
Because sometimes they would change.
Still about to go to the audience.
It's out there.
Me too.
It's like, are we on a talk show?
We're not.
It's just us.
It's just having a conversation.
No one's watching, so we can sing.
They'll cut all this.
So good.
This is an actor on an actor.
This is what's happening.
That's why they call it that.
Actors that know each other too well.
Yeah, this is just a shorthand.
That's a different issue.
Yes, boy, that was really fun.
That also still feels like yesterday, doesn't it?
It does.
No, it doesn't to me.
It doesn't?
Feel like yesterday?
Yeah.
No.
Why does it feel that way to me?
Maybe because to me, so I have watched it now.
I completely forgot.
Did you love it?
Loved it with all my heart.
Yeah.
I didn't go to bed until really late because one just goes right into the next,
to the next, to the next.
And I'd end up sitting there for three hours.
Right.
And then it's like two in the morning.
It's like, I didn't need to go to bed.
This is bad.
But, oh, it made me so happy to watch it.
And, man, you're all good.
Holy cow.
That was what we had.
You were really good, Jennifer.
Oh, floosh.
It's such a ridiculous thing to say to people.
Of course.
Well, the writing, that was like such lightning in a bottle,
that chemistry of all of us and the writers.
And the writers played off of us and our relationships.
That were truly genuine and honestly loved each other so deeply.
I know.
Weren't they great?
I mean, it was a real collaboration that way.
Except we weren't up till four in the morning rewriting.
No.
They were.
That they were.
Yeah, I know.
And then they would have to redo a take or a whole scene.
And then they'd cut.
And then they'd rewrite it sometimes in the middle, in between the two passes.
And we'd have to learn new dialogue.
Right.
That's hard.
But what dedication.
Which part?
Of the writers.
Oh, yeah.
Of us.
To bother to learn the new lines, to make the show better.
We were so generous.
We were.
But I just mean.
But you know what?
With each other, that's the other thing.
We relied on each other to say, how do I make this?
We'd always inquire and ask for guidance of each other.
Yeah.
Which I loved so much.
And of Marta and David.
Always, yeah.
And then what was great.
Was always great to hear was, it's not you.
We need to rewrite it.
Yes.
Oh, thank God.
Okay.
It wasn't us.
Yeah.
We didn't screw it up.
Right.
It was just a bad joke.
But I just love that we trusted each other so much.
Yes.
Because I really looked to you and David and the Maddie and Matthews and Quartz,
you know, for approval of whether that was funny or not.
Yeah.
Because sometimes I didn't trust myself.
Yeah, me too.
Me too.
Oh, you didn't.
Yeah.
You know, when you just don't go, oh, was that good?
Was that funny?
Can it be funnier?
How do I get that, you know?
Right.
And it was.
But that's the thing about doing it all week.
And then, you know, for a run through.
And you're also, they're laughing.
But part of you is wondering, are they laughing because they wrote it?
Well, remember, we definitely, do you remember we had a guest star one time who will remain
nameless, who, we were in the coffee shop and there, you know, how in the run throughs,
the writers sort of go down.
So there's this row of, I'm gonna explain it to you as if you don't know it.
Yeah.
What happens?
Joey and Chandler's apartment, Monica, Rachel, and then the coffee house.
Yes.
And then we would slide up, you know, remember.
And one of those guest stars was like, listen to all those producers laughing at their own jokes.
And I was like, oh, it's not because it's funny?
It's actually just laughing at their own jokes.
They would laugh and then it would get rewritten.
Still.
Because they were supporting each other too.
That's true.
Isn't that nice?
Yeah, it is nice.
It is nice.
Have you watched the whole, all 10 years of it?
Yes.
Whoa.
I think I have to go back and redo the first season because I think that was, yeah.
I don't remember.
Do we love the first season?
Did we like the first season?
There are things, I forgot to watch.
There's an episode where Phoebe and Ross have an argument over evolution.
Oh.
And I want to go back and watch that because what if Phoebe was right?
I mean, that's crazy.
And I studied evolutionary biology, so.
Right.
I know that was partly why it's there, but.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I do.
Because there are things that Phoebe says now that I'm watching it,
that at the time were like, isn't that stupid?
And then it's actually.
And now I'm, oh, yeah, no, I think that's actually how it works.
Did you have a favorite episode?
Did anything stand out?
Look, I love.
Did you like the Thanksgiving episodes?
Those were fun.
Those were great.
Thanksgiving episodes when Brad was on.
That was hilarious.
Rachel.
And just getting back.
I know.
How funny, those, the movie stars that came on Friends.
I know.
Brad, Bruce Willis, Julia Roberts.
Yes.
I mean, Isabella Rossellini.
We had so many.
Sean Penn.
Oh, yeah.
They were always new.
I'm now a month.
Remember?
I'm still surprised.
Oh, yeah.
Susan Sarandon.
Yes.
Kathleen Turner.
Oh, phenomenally good.
Because I'm thinking these are movie stars that are coming into our sitcom.
Yeah.
And they would be so nervous.
And I was really, that was, I was so surprised by that.
Me too.
Because the audience, they were afraid of the audience.
Well, because what's the tone?
Right.
It's not theater.
It's for TV.
Yeah.
It's not a movie.
What the hell is this?
What is this?
And it's a good question.
It's a great question.
And I remember someone asked one time, and everyone was like, well, I didn't know how
to explain it.
And I said, oh, just talk louder.
Same intention, just.
Just louder.
Yes.
Because in movies, you're taught.
Remember the first couple of movies I did after Friends or during Friends?
Screaming.
Me too.
I'm still doing that.
You're like the kid.
I'm still doing it too, by the way.
I can't bear the volume and sound of my voice.
It's too loud.
I love it so much, though.
God.
But I did love, with all my heart, all of us cracking up, including me, when Ross is
playing the bagpipes.
Nothing funnier.
Come on.
Nothing funnier.
And then sing along.
And Phoebe's like, okay, sure.
With all of her heart.
She doesn't know it's a song.
She doesn't know what song it is.
Not at all.
You just sing it like the sound of the awful bagpipes.
Oh, God.
And then just your tails.
And me too.
I always went, I always, I don't know.
Yeah, you did this, I think.
I was trying to hide it.
Although I didn't.
We didn't.
Because everything else was.
And then there's just like, I was the worst.
When I watch it, I'm just like, oh, I'm fully laughing at my joke.
I know.
I can't.
Well, it was funny, man.
It was funny.
But I did crack up in tears.
I laughed so hard.
When it was the Geller's anniversary party.
And Phoebe, there was an oyster.
And she, oh, it was Alec Baldwin was in that one.
Oh, my God.
And he's like, here, eat this.
Like, okay.
And she flicked it on the floor.
And then Joey comes over.
Is he having a good time?
He's like, no, it's horrible.
I waited forever for the buffet line.
Then finally, I almost slid on it.
I almost slid on a giant booger.
It's so stupid.
That an oyster-sized booger came out of someone's nose.
It just, it was a giant booger.
But by the way, Joey was so, oh, God, LeBlanc is so good.
I'm having the worst time.
There was a 15-minute line for the buffet.
And when I finally got up to the plates, I slipped on a giant booger.
And he played that really not smart guy, like, so well.
Yes.
And he meant it with all his heart.
It was a mooh point.
It's mooh.
It's just mooh.
It's a mooh point.
What are you saying, Joey?
It's like a cow.
It goes mooh.
It's a mooh point.
Oh, God.
Is this Suicide Baseball?
I don't know.
I'm crying with tears right now.
Remember we were going to do a re-watch podcast thing?
Remember we were going to do that.
Not a podcast, but a thing.
It was like going through the episodes.
And we were going to do it.
That was a great idea.
What happened to that idea?
I don't know.
That was a great idea.
Oh, my God.
That was so funny.
Yeah, that would be a great show.
We're just like crying, laughing.
That would be so entertaining for people.
I know.
Just watching ourselves.
Watch us laugh at our show.
Yeah.
Do you miss multi-cam?
When I'm sitting on a set waiting.
Yeah.
And it's been a long time.
Right.
Yes, I do.
Boy, I miss it.
Yeah.
I really loved that medium.
I loved the audience.
Yeah, I didn't love the audience, but I would now.
I know you didn't.
You would love them today.
Yeah, I think I would now.
I would love you if you would want me on a sitcom.
By the way, Valerie Cherish.
Oh, yeah.
No, I didn't mean to bring that up.
Oh, don't talk about Valerie Cherish.
Let's not talk about that at all.
Yeah.
No, but wait.
That was such a beautiful mix between theater and television.
So you've got that, you know, rehearsal.
Yes.
Working it out.
And then the excitement and the butterflies of opening night.
Yeah.
Every week.
Yeah.
You got that.
We got to do that.
Yes.
And then you would hear if they really liked it or not.
Yeah.
That's right.
And no canned laughter.
Yeah.
We didn't have laughing tracks.
No.
Yeah.
I mean, in the beginning, did we?
No, no, no.
But I think they would play with, because if you've done it the third time and that's the
take they like and the audience wasn't as enthusiastic as they were the first one,
they would take the first laugh.
Oh.
But it, yeah.
Oh.
Still fair.
So I'm talking to the audience.
I know.
There's no one there.
Oh, I have a camera there.
There's a camera there too.
Jesus.
Well, there's a, somewhere someone's watching this, I hope, is why are we here?
No, but if I would, yeah, sing a multi-cam show.
Yeah.
What a schedule.
It was so great.
Having a great life.
We had a life at the same time.
The more you do it, the easier it is.
Yeah.
It was great.
I would love to do another one if anyone wrote a good one.
Yeah.
I would too.
Okay, let's do it.
Let's do it.
Okay.
Let's bring it back.
I'll see you soon.
Okay, I'm so excited about that.
You heard it here.
Oh, wow.
What's it gonna be?
Does that make it happen?
Maybe.
Can we do Yumi and Courtney?
Just like, what would that be?
Girlfriends.
We don't have to figure it out right now.
Let's pitch it.
Okay.
Let's workshop it in front of all of these wonderful people.
So, and then, and then you did the morning show.
And then the morning show creeped in.
Well, for someone who claims they had nothing to do with the cover-up,
you doth protest a little too much.
I do not cover up anything.
I am trying to figure out what happened.
Uh-huh.
You know, I've been a fan of since season one.
I know you have.
I love.
So supportive.
Supportive?
I just love it.
You know, I mean, I do.
I love it.
And you're phenomenally good.
Thank you so much.
Wow, Jennifer.
Oh.
You're so good.
You're very kind.
We have awesome, incredible writers that we really do.
And actors too.
And actors.
Actors on actors.
We have a great cast.
But you do.
Yes, you do have.
The stories are unbelievably good.
And I am in awe of them and what they have to do because there's so many characters and weaving
this sort of story, weaving these stories all together and having it make sense.
Yes.
And trying to make sure there's no holes in the canoe.
Yeah.
Because, yeah.
I have a question, though, because in the beginning, you're involved, very involved.
Do you find you're as involved now this last season?
Yes.
Oh, my goodness.
Breaking the stories and the arcs and stuff.
We get the story broken.
And then we will, I mean, it's everything down to the outline.
They'll pitch it.
Right.
Then we get a written outline.
And then we get the scripts.
And up until the day of, we're making changes.
Okay, real executive producer.
Absolutely.
Not just in name.
No.
I just wanted people to know that.
Oh, yeah.
No, I love it too.
Yeah, no, you're very, very good.
Because I like to get my hands in a lot of things anyway.
And you're very good.
You're very kind.
You are.
No, you're really good.
You're really smart.
Thanks.
About that stuff.
I like it.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Thank you.
And they're very collaborative, which is incredible.
Yeah.
They tolerate the, this doesn't make sense.
You know, or I don't understand.
Or I don't know if I would say that.
Or this feels too...
Yeah.
Something.
No, but that's great.
It's a walk in a fine line too with the real world.
We're a television show at the same time, you know.
Yeah, I know.
But it's great that they trust you because they should.
Well.
Yeah.
We started this also back in, geez.
When?
2018.
Are you serious?
We started shooting this in 2018.
It premiered in 2019.
Oh, my God.
And it's only been, we're just starting the fifth season.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, because, yeah.
It's just COVID.
We hit COVID.
We hit the strikes.
There was so many.
Oh, right.
We had so many stops and starts, stops and starts.
Yes.
But this season was really extraordinary.
I mean, the stories were like, it was like being on a roller coaster.
It was so thrilling.
Yeah.
High drama.
Yeah, but real.
And for me, I don't know if it was episode six with you, Alex and her father,
played by Jeremy Irons, no less.
My God.
How was that?
Well, Jeremy Irons, who is a gorgeous human being, literally, physically breathtaking.
And he is as funny and playful.
He's like a big kid.
Oh, wow.
Good thing you never went into the law because your arguments are not.
Got it.
Not smart.
I know.
I'm not smart enough.
I'm not academic enough.
I'm just not enough.
I'm intimidated and nervous and excited at all at the same time to meet him.
And I remember the first time we did a table read and he was in London.
So he was on the screen coming in through Zoom.
And he's just staring down at everybody.
And he had this cigarette in his mouth.
And he stood where everyone's like, Jesus, there's Jeremy Irons.
Just gazing upon all of us.
I don't know if you knew the camera was on or not, but he was just incredible.
And wanted it always to mix.
How was that?
Was that good?
Same thing as we would say to each other.
How was that?
Did that feel right?
Yeah.
Did that feel good?
Should we do that again?
Or how do we make this feel more?
Just I love, he was just a wonderful collaborator.
Oh, great.
Extraordinary human.
That's fantastic.
Yeah.
Too, because he cares about what he's doing.
Yeah.
So he's not afraid to say.
And I think it's such a beautiful trait to still always not be sure.
And not know.
And to just never get comfortable and be curious.
Yes.
Continue to be curious.
Yeah.
That's important.
And interested.
Can I ask you, though, about the scene in Alex's apartment?
And Alex is learning for the first time that her mother had postpartum depression and then left.
That's postpartum?
It doesn't matter what it was called.
What difference does it make?
It makes all the difference in the world.
There were so many emotional bombs.
It was a lot of bombs.
That was, yeah.
Because we all have such complicated relationships with our own fathers, right?
Or I did, at least.
I mean, not complicated, but you know.
Right.
Divorce, families, all that stuff.
Being a part of that scene, which took a long time to kind of get to the place that it got.
I was wondering.
But just to sort of have an understanding of like, oh, this is why I am the way I am.
And all of a sudden, you learn all this information in your 50s about,
oh, I thought she left because you're so horrible.
Right.
I didn't know she had a problem.
You could have helped her.
We could have helped her.
No one talked about it back then.
Just think about those generations.
How much suffering they just internalized and never were able to process or talk to.
Or be institutionalized for, too.
That's right.
No, it's true.
No, and Alex saying like, that was postpartum depression.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
But not only that, and he's letting you know.
You.
Well, yeah.
Letting you know like, well, no, I never wanted you.
Oh, that was brutal.
Yeah.
And then she left.
Yeah.
And you drove her out.
Right.
And now I was left with you.
Yes.
But it felt like watching it that you're actually processing some empathy about,
oh, he lost the woman he loved and he's blamed me.
And that's not on me.
Right.
Really.
It wasn't about me.
That was so great.
Thank you.
I'm really so grateful that I get to have this material that we get to work with.
It's so beautiful and layered and.
Yes.
And hard.
And yeah.
But like you said, when you're so focused, there is no real time because you go home,
learn all the dialogue.
Once you learn the dialogue, memorize the dialogue,
then we have to breathe the life into the dialogue.
Right.
Make it make sense.
You're existing in an alternate reality.
Right.
Basically.
Yeah.
Basically.
But that's what it feels like to me.
Yeah.
But boy, I don't know if that whole scene for me was, that's why Alex is so strong.
Because.
Yeah.
She always just took care of herself.
And okay.
And this is the moment where she's letting him, you know, just.
And there was some hurt.
It had hurt.
And it was also her drive.
It gave her her drive.
I mean, I have a similar thing in terms of,
I'm going to try to do the best job I possibly can.
Because that then.
They'll notice.
Right.
Approval.
Right.
See.
Yeah.
What I can do.
But I think there's something inside.
And I might be wrong.
Just imposing my own personal beliefs about things.
I love them.
You know that.
All of your beliefs.
But that.
Ultimately.
No, she does like herself.
She's there for herself.
She does take care of herself.
And it's not out of.
You know.
Anger.
I don't know.
And I think that's ultimately what's important.
Right.
Too.
I agree.
Hello, hello, hello.
Oh, no one's here.
No, no, no, no.
I'm here.
Hello, Brandon.
Hello, Valerie Cherish.
First of all.
The comeback.
And I love Valerie Cherish so much.
I love her.
She breaks my heart.
OK.
Like on such a.
She really does.
She makes me laugh and she breaks my heart.
I also think that life of the comeback has been fascinating.
Isn't it crazy?
It started.
What was the first year that you did it?
2005.
So that's 20 years ago.
21 years ago.
And then you came back.
Literally.
There was a comeback.
Yeah.
Eight years later, nine years later.
Nine, ten.
And then another ten.
Of ten.
Ten, eleven.
Why did it end the first time?
It was canceled.
Why was it?
It was canceled.
Yes, there was.
How often does something like that happen?
A show gets canceled, then someone nine years later goes, you know that show?
Remember that show, The Comeback?
Damn, that was good.
Yeah, because there were different people in charge.
Uh-huh.
Who had been fans of it.
And it did have this very strong niche audience.
Maybe more than niche.
I don't know.
But some people wrote about it, and liked it, and made lists of good shows.
So that was kind of extraordinary.
It only had one season.
And HBO said, yeah, we think that would be an event for the people who love the show.
Yeah.
To do another season.
And it was supposed to be just a limited series.
But because we were a series, it had to be a season two.
Right.
So we didn't have expectations of coming back.
At all.
After the second season.
How did you and Michael Patrick feel when they said, hey, did they come to you and say,
we have an idea that we would like to throw up the flagpole and see if someone salutes?
They sort of did.
They wanted to know if we were interested.
And we did have an idea.
But we didn't know if they were interested.
You know, it's sort of like, but we broke up.
But I don't have hard feelings to you.
Do you want to have a coffee?
Nothing.
Not a big commitment.
It was like that.
And yeah, we had an idea for that second season.
First season was, honestly.
Reality TV.
Reality TV, and how it felt like it was going to be the end of scripted television.
And writers were in a panic.
Really afraid of that.
Right.
Yes, because it's less expensive to do.
There were no rules.
There were no unions governing that much.
I mean, there were, but not like today.
Yeah.
And it was just so much easier for them.
I mean, the landscape of from one decade to another, right, of television, the industry,
is exponentially different.
Right.
There weren't as many 22 episodes.
No multi-camera sitcoms in 2014, 15, whenever I think it was on.
Look as if the comeback wasn't one of those.
A single camera sort of comedy, you know, that I'm, right?
I'm being so dismissive of.
And that was the comeback.
And that's where she, you know, would be.
And the worst guy to her in the world, Polly G, was writing about.
And people were also just writing about their own thing and their own experience and all of that.
That's what it felt like.
Yeah.
In 2014, whenever.
Yeah.
And of course, Valerie would, you know, but that's about me.
I'm going to be in it then.
Like, really?
You're going to work with him?
And he just made the most unflattering portrayal of you.
Of you, yeah.
Well, I don't want anybody else playing.
So, all right.
But she's on an HBO show.
And then we had her win an Emmy.
God.
And that last episode.
Oh, my God.
And leave the cameras.
I know.
I didn't know if that was going to work.
Michael said, pitched it in the room because we were trying to figure out.
And I was on board with, yeah, she would leave the Emmys.
I mean, my son broke his arm and I couldn't breathe till I could just sit and watch him in the hospital.
Right.
You know, broke his leg.
That's what a great mother I am.
I don't know what limb he broke.
It's a broken something.
I have nightmares about it.
That's OK.
Could have been a leg.
Could have been an arm.
And at this point, it doesn't really matter.
Doesn't matter.
But I get the point is.
The point is, I could see she didn't have a child.
Mickey was really important to her.
Oh, my God.
And that was her family for all we knew, you know?
Yes.
So, yeah.
I could see her leaving the Emmys to go do that because she couldn't sit there not knowing.
And he was sick.
You know, and then the actor who played Mickey, Robert Michael Morris, did die in 2017.
Like not long after, right?
Two years later.
Yeah.
So I couldn't even think about doing more.
We're done.
There's no show without Mickey.
Right.
Too hard to think about.
And there was nothing.
How did this season come about, the third?
Michael Patrick King.
Whenever he and I would get together, we would always end it with,
what do you think Valerie would be doing?
Or he would say, what if she's doing this or that?
And like, it doesn't feel right.
She's on Broadway.
All right.
And then what?
It's not a thing.
And then the last time, he said, what if Valerie's offered the lead in a multicam,
but it's written by AI?
Yes.
That's, of course.
Yes.
Of course.
Of course she would sign up for that nightmare of, you know, scrutiny.
Oh, that scene.
That scene in the room when they're on the Zoom and you guys are in the office.
Yeah.
And they're explaining everything and it just sounds so.
Right.
It's an easy buy for her.
Guys, just pin yourselves.
Pin, pin, pin yourselves for Valerie.
Okay.
Don't say I didn't warn you, Valerie.
Hello, everyone.
Absolutely, everyone.
Andrew Scott is so genius.
I know.
Brilliant at playing the sleazy.
I mean, not sleazy, but you know.
Well, what's the word?
Because they are, yes, they're a wolf in sheep's clothing, basically, right?
Right.
I mean, they kind of have to be.
Yeah, they have to be.
But Andrew Scott, tears came out of my eyes when I heard he wanted to be in the show.
Honestly.
I get that.
I just, yeah, started crying.
And Michael Patrick King, in fact, had said, no, no, we can't have someone known.
That's not what we do because we need for the audience to believe this world is real.
And I just said, Michael, 20 years ago, Phoebe put on a red wig and said her name was Valerie
and people bought it.
So I don't think that's an issue.
They're called actors.
That's what they do.
They play different characters.
And it's our last season.
It's the last time we're doing this.
Come on.
Well, you say that.
Let's have some sparkle.
I say it and I mean it.
Do you really mean it?
Yeah, because now it's a piece.
It's a trilogy.
Right.
And we went from the first extinction event that we thought was going to be reality TV.
Yeah.
To this extinction event.
Right.
And that everyone thinks is going to be an extinction event.
So it felt like, oh, it's full circle.
Right.
In that way.
I hear you.
I'll be OK with that.
I guess it's full circle.
It is the big thing from the first season.
And you were saying it like a heartbreak.
Oh, my God.
And but now you're this.
Now it's like, you know, what's going on now?
Yeah.
She's now, you know, involuntarily in charge.
Yes.
It's a role reversal.
Yeah.
And in a way that we think would have happened, could happen.
Right.
Where they're like, well, we have AI.
Do we need a showrunner?
Yeah.
Like, yes.
Yes.
All that beautiful Jimmy Burroughs moment.
Jimmy Burroughs, by the way, who plays the director on the comeback.
Yeah.
Jimmy, the director.
And now Jimmy Burroughs on.
Right.
The director.
Yeah.
Who was our first director on the Friends.
Yeah.
Sitcom show.
First 10 episodes.
The friendship show.
The first 10 episodes.
Yeah.
He's a legend.
Yeah.
He's a legend.
And what a treat that was to see, to get.
Remember when you sent me and Courtney.
Yeah.
A picture of you and Jimmy and.
On stage 24.
Stage 24, which is where the Friends show.
How did you even walk onto that?
How did that happen?
Oh, my God.
So we were looking at stages and Warner Brothers offered stage 24.
Stop it.
That.
Yeah.
Just coincidence.
Well, maybe.
Or they intentionally offered stage 24, which was really nice.
We needed a big stage.
Yes.
And I can't tell you how many ways that moved me.
I can't.
Oops.
I know.
Because knowing, you know, this is the end of Valerie Cherish and the comeback.
And that was where it was the end of Friends.
And, you know, next to Friends.
This is.
I know.
Sorry.
Give me one.
God damn.
Thank you.
I did this last time, but shoot.
And that was.
Yeah.
Next to Friends, the comeback.
It means the most to me.
Right.
So sorry.
I have to make fun of myself.
I can't.
Please don't put this in there.
And then.
I'm seeing like shots of this backstage.
Like seeing where Inger's room was and where craft service was.
Stairway and so much of the.
I have a picture of my Julian at two years old standing on a stepstool, washing his dishes and
washing a cup in a sink.
And then he's there on that stage doing his first thing in a big show.
Not a short or student film.
No, he's literally.
That was that's his first.
That was the other thing I was going to say.
There's Julian.
I could not.
I was beside myself because I didn't.
That was a surprise for me.
A really good, really amazing surprise.
Yeah, he was.
And he's so good.
Really there.
That young man was baked on that show.
He literally was.
Literally.
Literally baked in that oven.
Every huddle.
The laughter he heard.
Everyone would touch my stomach before we go out.
Always touch the flush belly.
And so he was basically.
Wait, when I was pregnant with Julian, they weren't just touching my stomach.
No.
And when Julian came out, we still wanted to touch your stomach.
No, I'm kidding.
Not creepy.
It's a sweet thing.
You don't get it.
No.
Only we do.
But to imagine being growing inside your mother.
And that's what you are as a baking.
What's the word?
I keep saying baking.
As he's growing in your stomach.
Did you want to say gestating?
I just thought of that right now.
It's like he grew up hearing laughter all the time.
I mean, he was developing his body.
I know.
Can you imagine the amount of.
Can you imagine?
Just the amount of joy.
Yeah.
Because it was the most fun.
And he is today one of the most joyful human beings that I get to spend time with.
He's great.
And he's like.
I love him.
Would want to choose him as a person I would like to spend time with as a friend,
not just because he's your son.
He's extraordinary.
Well done.
Well played.
And also when he was when he could first speak, he'd look at the TV point to Jennifer.
Mommy.
Yeah.
That was weird.
He has a connection.
He knew somehow.
But that would make me feel good.
All those things and Julian being there.
Yeah.
That stage where it already meant so much.
And now there's a whole other layer.
Yeah.
There.
Holy.
Oh, God.
And the shot when you were saying, look at all the movies that have shot here.
This is amazing.
She's not looking.
And then you're saying, well, finally, this stage is going to get a great sitcom.
Yeah.
How's that?
Finally, and then you leave the frame and then I zoom in on friends.
It's so fantastic.
Isn't that funny?
I know.
How's that?
Can be the big TV hit for stage 24.
Huh?
Let's go in.
We should go in.
I love that so much.
We were going to have some moment where someone brings up friends, you know.
Didn't you bring up friends?
She starts to say, yes, I think Jimmy Burroughs.
You know, we're up to his agents.
You know, he never would have done Cheers or.
Taxi.
Or Will and Grace or Frasier or.
And Abby goes, we got to go.
It was perfect timing, Abby Jacobson.
Very good.
Yeah.
But we were going to do something where the studio has these younger guest stars come in.
Like for a community college, I don't know, something.
And they are definitely characters from other sitcoms.
Yeah.
That you can tell one of them has a guitar and blonde.
It's Phoebe.
And Valerie would say, and that's that.
Why do you know?
Why would you have that girl?
Why not?
You know, the Monica or the Rachel prettier?
Oh, no, I wanted.
We didn't do it.
No, I'm so glad you didn't do it.
But I thought it would have been funny.
Or early on, I wanted to have a scene where Valerie is invited to Jennifer Aniston's for
dinner.
And there's a lot of actors around.
And she's think like, oh, well, all right, here we go.
She's arrived.
And all I want to do is say, so you're doing that AI show.
Why are you doing?
You know, are you doing that?
Offended and upset with you?
It's being written by AI.
Uh-huh.
Now, is is that allowed?
Well, it must be because they're doing it.
What do you feel about AI?
I feel like we're going to learn a lot about what doesn't work.
Right.
And that there will be some aspects of it that will be really helpful.
I think an audience will always let you know what works for them and what doesn't.
And what doesn't.
Yeah.
That's what I think.
And I think right now, just as actors, I think we're safe.
Because young people can tell so much better than I can tell.
Right.
What's an AI-generated human.
Isn't it crazy?
I can't tell that well.
The amount of things that I get sent from people think of.
That think it's you.
That think it's actually me.
Yeah.
And it's so clearly not.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's such uncharted territory.
And I think we have to learn about it.
It feels like it's already just grown into this 900-headed monster that we don't understand
enough about it.
Yeah.
No, I know.
I mean, I know you.
You've probably looked and tried to learn about it.
I want to learn more.
I want to understand what this is.
Because I think there's a lot of.
It's just so many questions.
Well.
I hope you come back sometime.
I don't want to ever stop talking to you.
I know.
Well, the good thing is we don't have to.
We don't.
I know.
But here on this particular set in these seats with these wonderful mugs that match our seats.
This is not one of our homes.
No.
So.
No.
And we can continue our conversations when you come over or I come over.
We go have dinner.
We got to get Courtney.
We got to get that.
Our thirst, our threesome.
Yeah.
Back together.
Yes.
I know.
I love seeing you always.
I love you.