＂What Does 'E' Mean As A Pronoun？＂： Gill Grills Exec About Pronouns From Her Company's Website

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you for holding this hearing on a very important topic, which is data privacy, but I've got a couple other things that I want to talk about while we're here related to this. Mr. Wojcicki, thank you for being here and taking the time. 23andMe has really, over the past few years, gone out of its way to show how woke it is, and one of the things that it's been promoting, amongst many others, is a variety of different pronouns. Here's a tweet that you guys put out in June of 2021. I just want to ask you, what does E mean as a pronoun? To be honest, I'm not sure. Do you know what M means as a pronoun? I'm also not sure. Don't you think it's important to know what these mean? In this post, somebody on your comms team wrote that using the correct pronouns impacts trans people's health, can reduce the risk of depression and suicide. That's a pretty serious claim. It seems like if you're going to demand people use these pronouns, you would know what they mean, right? I delegate 23andMe handle a lot of people. You were CEO though, right? I was CEO, but it doesn't mean I can oversee every single post. Well, this is a very, very politically charged post that you guys put out. I would think that you would have a view on that. Can you tell us what is the difference between Z and Z? One of them is ZE and one is XE. I'm not up to speed on that. Okay, does it concern you that not understanding this might increase the risk of depression and suicide amongst trans people? I support my research team that felt that it's important for us to be inclusive of everybody, and it was very much grounded. I agree, but it doesn't seem very inclusive if you don't know what they mean, right? I respect the social team and the research team that put that post together. But you don't know what any of these pronouns mean, but you guys are promoting it. I assume it's different ways people like to be referred to. What about here, HIR? What does that mean? I don't know either. What about FAE, FAER, F-A-E-F-A-E-R? Again. You'd agree these are pretty unusual things, wouldn't you? I think they represent a lot of the diversity in this country. Okay, I'm trying to understand the diversity, and I'm asking you what they mean. I'll give you one more chance. Do you know what Z, HIR, Z, ZIM, FAE, FAER, EM mean? I do not. Okay, does that concern you that you don't know it? According to your own post here, understanding these and using the correct pronouns would improve your product for trans and non-binary people. It seems like this is directly related to the product. Again, it was the team, the social team and the research team that felt strongly around putting... Well, you were CEO, so you can't pawn off responsibility to somebody else here. What about bathroom access? On 23andMe's website, I've got it up here on my phone. There's a 23andMe blog, and there's a little subheading about bathroom access. Is it still 23andMe's official position that men should be using women's restrooms? I'm not at 23andMe anymore. Okay, was it while you were at 23andMe? I think we had non-gender bathrooms as well. Well, that's not what this is referring to. This is referring to laws that seek to force, in your own words, force trans individuals to use a restroom that does not correspond to their gender identity. While you were there, was it 23andMe's position that men should be using women's restrooms? I think our position was just to make sure that we're applicable to laws. This isn't in reference. This is actually against laws that would stop people from using the wrong restroom. This is actually against laws. I don't have that post in front of me, so I can't comment specifically. Was it 23andMe's position while you were there that children should be trans? Because that's on this website as well. I don't know specifically what you're referring to. I can read you a little bit about it. Supports gender-affirming health care, such as hormones in surgery for trans youth. I think 23andMe referred specifically to some of the pediatric guidelines. Sounds to me like you took a genetics company, which you built, congratulations for doing that, and turned it into a woke social justice organization. You want to run away from that now? It doesn't sound like you even knew what you were talking about at the time. You don't know what any of these pronouns mean, and now realize that this is politically not very popular. Says a lot about where your convictions were and what you meant here. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.