Amplifier & Speaker MYTHS! The Secret Synergy REVEALED! Vintage Audio HiFi Bob Carver's Challenge

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In this video, we dive deep into the reality of amplifier sound and tackle the uncomfortable truth that the high-end audio industry doesn't want you to hear: there have been no massive, earth-shattering breakthroughs in analog amplifier technology since the 1970s. We explain why a moderately priced, well-maintained vintage amplifier can sound absolutely indistinguishable from a modern boutique amplifier costing tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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As you can see from the specs, the distortion is incredibly low.
If you believe the magazines and the forums, you have to spend the price of a new car to
get true audiophile sound.
They tell you that amplifier technology has made quantum leaps forward.
They tell you that your old 70s Japanese audio equipment is just a dusty relic that can't
compete with modern resolution and microdynamics.
I'm here to tell you that is absolute rubbish.
Today I'm going to talk about the day the audiophile industry was exposed.
We're going to talk about the day one man, Bob Carver, walked into the lion's den and
proved scientifically that a cheap, mass-produced amplifier could sound exactly like a $12,000
vacuum tube monoblock.
And I mean exactly.
You wanted it big?
Well I've got it big just for you.
Go to any high-end audio forum right now.
What do you see?
1,000 word essays written by people claiming they can hear the shimmer of a cymbal change
because they swapped a power cord.
Look at this amplifier.
When I added this power cord, the soundstage opened up completely.
The cymbal shimmer is unbelievable.
Here's the harsh reality.
Most of these guys are in their 60s, 70s, or 80s.
Biologically, their hearing tops out at maybe 10,000 or 12,000 hertz, if they're lucky.
Yet they claim to hear differences that measurement equipment can't even detect.
They don't do blind A-B testing.
They don't match volume levels.
They just talk.
They are hearing with their wallets, not their ears.
But in 1985, Stereophile magazine decided to put this to the test.
And they got an answer they really, really didn't want to hear.
Enter Bob Carver.
He was a physicist, an engineer, and a bit of a maverick.
He claimed he could take any amplifier, at any price, and make his affordable, solid-state
magnetic field amplifier sound indistinguishable from it.
The editors at Stereophile magazine, the guardians of the high end, took the bait.
They invited Bob to their offices in Santa Fe, New Mexico.
They picked the holy grail of amps at the time, the Conrad Johnson Premier 5.
These were massive, expensive, tube monoblocks.
They were warm, lush, and musical.
Bob brought his cheap, solid-state amplifier, the M1.0.
It costs four to five hundred dollars.
The Conrad Johnson's cost over six thousand.
That's about seventeen thousand in today's money.
Bob didn't use magic dust.
He used physics.
He used a transfer function null test.
Here's how it works.
Went to a hotel room.
Esconced myself in the hotel room, locked the doors, pulled down the shutters, took
in this tube amplifier.
I had my scopes, my meters, my wires, my decay resistance boxes, my calculators.
I had everything in that room that I needed.
I measured everything I could think of measuring for the vacuum tube amplifier, the Conrad
Johnson, characterized what an engineer would call its transfer function, which just simply
states the change that the signal undergoes as it goes from the input of the amplifier
to the output of the amplifier.
There's a black box.
The signal changes somehow as it goes through the amplifier.
That can be expressed in terms of mathematics.
And so once I had the expression for the transfer function, all I had to do was replicate that
transfer function in my solid-state amplifier.
If I succeeded, I could make a simple measurement at the end, which involved connecting a speaker
across the two amplifier terminals if the signal from microsecond to microsecond was
identical.
In other words, here's one amplifier, here's another amplifier.
If the signals are not the same, there'll be a different signal and you could hear it.
If the amplifiers are identical, the two signals will be in synchronism.
The output will, the difference between the two signals will be zero.
The speaker will be silent.
And so that was the ultimate test to see if I was successful.
And when I put the speakers across the amplifier terminals, there was nothing to be heard.
There was silence.
48 hours, Bob sat in a hotel room with a soldering iron and a bag of parts.
All right, just one more adjustment to the gain.
Then we can test the distortion.
He tweaked his cheap amp.
He added distortion.
Yes, he added distortion to match the warmth of the tube amp.
He changed the output impedance.
He tweaked the feedback.
He kept listening to the null.
He tweaked until the difference between his $500 amp and the $6,000 amp was down to minus
70 dB, essentially silence.
Then came the listening test.
The golden ears of stereo file sat down.
They played their reference tracks.
They switched back and forth.
And guess what?
They couldn't tell them apart.
They failed.
In their own listening room, with their own music, they admitted that Bob Carver had successively
cloned the sound of a world-class tube amp using a mass-market solid-state box.
Why is this story important today?
Because it proves that sound quality isn't about magic materials or price tags.
It's about the transfer function, the relationship between the signal going in and the signal
coming out.
There have been no huge breakthroughs in amplifier technology since the 1970s.
Physics hasn't changed.
An electron in the 1970s moves the same way as it does today.
A well-designed vintage amplifier has a transfer function that is nearly perfect.
It amplifies the signal without adding noise.
That is all it's supposed to do.
You may be saying, well, Chris, this was over 40 years ago.
Why are you talking about something that happened in 1985 when Reagan was president?
Why don't we look at something a little bit more modern?
I know amplifier technology has changed leaps and bounds since 1985.
Okay, we'll take a look at my Yamaha CA-2010 that was produced in the 1970s and let's compare
it to the Yamaha AS-1200 that was built just a couple years ago.
Would that be recent enough?
In many aspects, the vintage amp out-specs the new amp.
So the CA-2010 has better specs than this AS-1200, 50 years apart.
And I understand we don't listen to specs, do we?
But I expected after 50 years of engineering improvements, component improvements, etc.,
that there'd be no question that the amp that was developed 50 years after the other one
would spec out better.
But it doesn't.
Let me show you what I mean.
So here's the specifications for the two amplifiers, the CA-2010 and the AS-1200.
They're very similar to each other.
If you go down and take a look at these specifications, there's not a big difference.
If you take a look at distortion on the vintage amp, it's 0.03.
If you look at the more modern amp, it's 0.07.
If you take a look at the rest of the specifications, whether it's signal-to-noise
or frequency response, they're all in the same ballpark.
The nice thing about the vintage amp is that you can run it in class A, which is very nice.
So we can have either a class A or class B amp.
And that's done with just a switch at the front.
So that's a very nice thing to have.
The CA-2010 also has a couple other features I like.
But this video is not about these two units and comparing them.
This video is about amplifiers and how they've changed.
Or in this case, if you look through these specs,
how they haven't changed much in the last 50 years.
So if the specifications haven't changed much in the last 50 years,
they must sound the same, right?
Well, not necessarily.
And let me show you why.
It is one of the most hotly debated topics in the audiophile world.
If two amplifiers, say a fully restored heavy hitter like the CA-2010
and a modern integrated unit like this AS-1200,
if they both measure completely flat from 20 hertz to 20,000 hertz,
have identical total harmonic distortions,
and put out the exact same wattage,
how can they possibly sound different in an A-B test?
The answer lies in the massive difference between
how an amplifier behaves on a technician's test bench
and how it behaves in a living room hooked up to a real pair of loudspeakers.
Here is the breakdown of why amplifiers with identical static specifications
will project an entirely different sonic signature
when driving the same speakers.
1. The illusion of the static load.
How speakers affect amps.
When an amplifier is tested for its specifications
like power output and total harmonic distortion,
it is hooked up to a dummy load,
usually a 4 ohm or 8 ohm high power resistor.
A pure resistor that draws power in a linear fashion across all frequencies.
However, a real loudspeaker is not a pure resistor.
It's a reactive load.
A speaker consists of voice coils, inductors,
crossover networks, capacitors and inductors,
and the physical moving mass.
Therefore, a speaker's impedance changes dramatically
depending on the frequency it's playing.
A speaker nominally rated at 8 ohms
might actually drop to 3 ohms in the heavy bass regions
and spike up to 30 ohms at its resonant frequency
or in the crossover regions.
Furthermore, reactive loads create back EMF.
Electromotive force.
This means the speaker actually generates its own current
and sends it back down the speaker wire into the amplifier.
How a specific amplifier deals with this wildly swinging impedance
and back EMF is the primary reason it sounds the way it does.
This is just one typical speaker.
This isn't all the speakers.
There are as many reactive loads as there are different speakers.
So the speaker that I'm talking about
isn't probably the speaker you've got at home.
You would have something totally different
as far as reactive load that your amplifier sees.
Two, output impedance and damping factor.
Every amplifier has its own internal output impedance.
Modern solid state amplifiers often feature near zero output impedance
as low as a hundredth of an ohm, an exceptionally high damping factor.
Vintage tube amplifiers, due to the output transformers
required to couple the high voltage tubes to the speakers,
these inherently have a higher output impedance
from a half an ohm up to two ohms and a lower damping factor.
When you connect an amplifier with a higher output impedance
to a speaker with a widely varying impedance curve,
the two components act as a voltage divider.
The amplifier will output slightly more voltage at the frequencies
where the speaker's impedance spikes and less voltage where the impedance drops.
This means a vintage tube amp
or even an early capacitor coupled vintage solid state amp
will physically alter its frequency response
to mirror the speaker's impedance curve.
This often results in a slight boost in the mid-bass
and a gentle roll-off in the extreme highs,
creating that famously warm, lush, holographic sound.
A modern amp with a high damping factor
will force the speaker to remain perfectly flat,
which can sound highly accurate and tight,
but to some ears, slightly clinical or dry.
Three, the transfer function.
Ultimately, every amplifier has a transfer function,
the exact mathematical relationship of how it alters
the voltage, current, and phase of an input signal
before passing it to the speaker.
This is not a matter of audio voodoo.
It is purely measurable electrical engineering.
If you perform a null difference test,
subtracting the output of one amp from another,
you will see exactly where the voltage and phase deviations occur.
And you saw Bob Carver do this in 1985.
It's entirely possible to take a modern solid state amplifier
and by carefully modifying its output impedance,
feedback loop, and voltage rails,
he shaped its transfer function to perfectly mimic
a Conrad Johnson tube amplifier.
If the transfer function and output impedance are identical,
they will sound identical.
But out of the box, their differing engineering philosophies
ensure they will interact with your speakers
in totally unique ways.
So where does this leave the rest of us?
Because let's face reality for a second.
99.99% of us, myself included,
do not have a professional test bench
and certainly do not have the legendary chops of Bob Carver
when it comes to engineering audio equipment.
I can't just open up my solid state Carver M1.0T,
solder in some resistors,
tweak a feedback loop,
and magically make it sound identical
to my Dyneco ST-70 tube amplifier.
So what do I do?
What do we do?
We do the only thing we can do.
We mix and we match our equipment.
In my case, I do it because I want to try different combinations
to see what sounds good.
But also, I just like to experiment.
I like to put things together
that maybe you wouldn't normally put things together
that probably shouldn't work together.
And sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.
But it's always fun for me
to put together various pieces of equipment
and let's just see what happens.
Here's my Macintosh MX110 preamp tuner
hooked up with my Dyneco ST-70 power amp.
They were both from the same era in the 60s
and they're both vacuum tube pieces of equipment.
And so that's kind of a normal combination you'd put together.
A combination that was probably put together
in the 60s from time to time.
Sometimes I go a little bit off the wall.
How about a Nova 300 driving a Dyneco ST-35?
That's a little bit weird,
but surprisingly it sounds quite good.
I'll swap out the tubes for solid state.
I'll chase that magic combination.
But if I'm being completely honest with myself,
the odds of randomly stumbling upon
that absolutely perfect mind-blowing synergy
between an amplifier and a loudspeaker
is a lot like picking the winning numbers for lotto.
It's funny.
Sometimes I think one combination is perfect.
I'll listen to it again.
I don't think it's so perfect.
I'll put something else together
and I'll think that's perfect.
You'd think that having a large collection of vintage gear
would increase your odds, right?
But sometimes it just makes things more confusing
if you let it.
That's because we aren't just dealing with static numbers
on a spec sheet as you've seen in this video.
We're dealing with a massive web of variables.
It includes our hearing,
which is completely subjective
and physically unique to every single one of us.
Our perception.
What I think is lush and warm in the mid-range,
you might think it sounds muddy and slow.
And here's some reality.
96% of my viewers are 45 years of age or older.
And 72% are 55 years or older.
So what that means is
practically everybody watching this video
does not hear as well as they used to.
It doesn't mean that we're all deaf.
It just means that like everything else in life,
as you get older,
things start to age out
and hearing is one of them.
If you want to check out how high of a frequency you can hear,
right here on YouTube,
you can listen to an 8,000 hertz tone,
a 12,000 hertz tone,
and a 16,000 hertz tone
and just see where does your hearing cut off at.
And I've provided links down in the description to those tones.
So it's not a professional test, obviously,
but it'll give you an idea of how high of a frequency you can hear.
Put down in the comments how you did.
So when I see a power cord being reviewed by some old guy on YouTube,
I think to myself,
does he really believe this?
Look at this amplifier.
When I added this power cord,
the soundstage opened up completely.
The cymbal shimmer is unbelievable.
Another huge difference is our rooms are all different.
Maybe I have hardwood floors.
You've got heavy drapes.
I've got a small room.
You've got a large room.
So every single room radically changes the transfer function
that you've seen in this video
before the sound even hits our ears.
So many factors.
And because of that, we have to guess.
We rely on trial, error, and our own two ears.
But Bob Carver didn't guess.
He used measurable, verifiable science.
He walked into a hotel room,
and he proved to the absolute golden ears at Stereophile Magazine
that he could make two fundamentally radically different amplifier designs
sound the same.
Bob Carver didn't care how good the listening ears were at Stereophile Magazine.
Bob Carver didn't care about their room.
Bob Carver didn't care about what type of music they liked.
It didn't matter.
Because Bob Carver didn't guess.
He used measurable, verifiable science.
The engineer versus the time traveler.
Why the Carver challenge missed the point of the hobby.
Bob Carver's legendary hotel room stunt with Stereophile Magazine
is one of the most brilliant pieces of engineering and marketing in audio history.
With a soldering iron, a box of resistors,
and an unparalleled understanding of null difference testing,
he forced a lightweight solid state amplifier
to mimic the exact sonic footprint of a boutique glowing tube monolith.
It was a mic drop moment.
But if you look at it through the lens of a true vintage audio addict like myself,
Carver's magic trick actually bypasses the entire soul of the hobby.
Here's a breakdown of why lacking Bob Carver's reverse engineering skills
isn't a weakness to me.
It's the very reason this hobby remains so incredibly rewarding.
The Carver equation versus the audiophile experience.
The motivation was commerce, not romance.
We have to remember the context.
Bob Carver was brilliant, but he was running a business also.
The Carver challenge was the ultimate marketing campaign
to sell his T-series amplifiers.
He was proving that his affordable, lightweight box
could sound like a high-end luxury item.
He treated the amplifier as a math problem to be solved,
stripping away the romance of the hardware to prove a purely electrical point.
The magic button problem.
Imagine if you did possess Carver's skills.
Imagine if you had a dial in the front of your amplifier
that you could turn to instantly make it sound perfectly
like a Conrad Johnson, a heavy pioneer, or a mass of techniques.
If you had that dial, the journey would end.
The thrill, the hunt.
Scoring for that specific piece of heavy 70s iron.
Hauling it onto the test bench.
Repairing it.
Bringing it back to life.
Would be rendered entirely pointless.
Carver proved that the destination can be faked.
But for me, and I think for many of us, the journey is actually the prize.
For those of us who collect, restore, and obsess over vintage gear,
swapping equipment isn't a frustrating guessing game or a burden.
It's an event.
It's a ritual we look forward to when we obtain a new piece off of Facebook
or we take that piece of equipment off the shelf that we haven't listened to in months.
For me, it's the thrill of discovery.
What's that new piece of equipment going to sound like?
Or what does that piece of equipment I haven't listened to in months,
or sometimes years, is it going to sound like I remember it?
Ultimately, we are not just listening to sound waves.
We are operating time machines.
The glowing VU meters.
The brushed aluminum faceplates.
And the distinct smell of warm electronics instantly transport us back to our youth.
We are assembling the dream systems we stared at in our local audio stores
or in magazines like Stereo Review or High Fidelity.
We're preserving the history of audio engineering from a golden era
when companies built things to last lifetimes.
Bob Carver used science to make one box sound like another box
so he could sell it.
We use the trial, error, passion, and our own two ears to mix and match
the iconic gear of the past creating a uniquely personal listening room
that honors the history of the equipment.
We don't need to be Bob Carver.
We just need to keep the music playing,
keep swapping the gear,
and keep enjoying the absolute thrill of the hunt.
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Y'all have a good day.
