Fresh off a flight from Los Angeles, Vogue cover star Amanda Seyfried is back in New York with The Run-Through with Vogue's Chloe Malle and Chloe Schama to talk about awards season.
“My favorite part was being at the A24 party at the Chateau,” says Seyfried, reflecting on the Golden Globes held Sunday evening. “I was just on the couch with a bunch of people that I like and never get to see except at award shows.”
Seyfried says she was surprised when a conversation she had with Jennifer Lawrence in the Golden Globes ballroom was picked up by cameras. “There are still moments when I forget that people are watching,” she says. “It was a little unnerving to see that because I stupidly believed it was a private conversation.”
The actress was a two-time nominee at the ceremony for her roles in The Testament of Ann Lee and the television series Long Bright River. With awards season in full swing, she has been working closely with her stylist, Elizabeth Stewart, to make sure she is red carpet–ready.
“We’ve been wearing a lot of Prada, and we decided to wear Versace to the Golden Globes, which is always trusted, beautiful and classic as well.”
Away from Hollywood, Seyfried’s wardrobe is far more casual as she cares for 52 animals on her farm upstate. “I wear the big, tall muck boots,” she says. “The ones you can’t drive a car in because your foot can’t reach the pedal.”
Her animals include peacocks, chickens, goats, horses, donkeys and a new rescue rabbit named Bugsy, who is a bit standoffish. “He could be 37 years old,” Seyfried jokes. “I have absolutely no idea. He has a droopy, wet eye, but he seems very nice.”
In The Testament of Ann Lee, directed by Mona Fastvold, Seyfried plays the titular character credited with founding the Shaker religious community in the mid-18th century. “The Shakers worshiped through song and dance,” she says of the challenge of taking on the role.
“The singing had to be second nature,” she says. “I’ve always judged myself while singing. Even in Les Mis, I wasn’t as present as I needed to be. I had to let go of that early on. The key was remembering that she’s human and I needed to feel it. It’s not about how it sounds. It’s about how it feels. I needed the audience to become a Shaker for two and a half hours.”
While promoting the film, Seyfried’s 8-year-old daughter, Nina, was introduced to one of her mother’s earlier roles in the cult classic Mean Girls.
“She said she didn’t think it was that funny,” Seyfried recalls. “But she really loved my role. That was Nina’s critique of Mean Girls at age eight.”
The Run-Through with Vogue is your go-to podcast where fashion meets culture. Hosted by Chloe Malle, Head of Editorial Content, Vogue U.S.; Chioma Nnadi, Head of British Vogue; and Nicole Phelps, Director of Vogue Runway, each episode features the latest fashion news and exclusive designer and celebrity interviews.
00:00 - Vogue Cover 01:15 - From the Golden Globes to the Pod 03:22 - Expensive Jewelry 05:54 - Julia Roberts Cosplay 06:32 - Privacy at the Golden Globes 08:20 - Amanda’s Timothée Chalamet comment 09:45 - Farmhouse Life 12:48 - Audiobooks 13:28 - The Testament of Ann Lee 17:38 - Amanda’s Nightmare Baby Delivery 19:44 - Portraying Birth on Film 22:45 - On the Set of Ann Lee 24:09 - Finn’s Trip to Europe 26:04 - Amanda’s Daughter Watching Mean Girls 27:32 - Turning 40 29:25 - Fainting at Surprise Parties 30:52 - Being a Swiftie
Welcome, Amanda.
Welcome, ladies.
We are so excited that you're here.
And I really it was this
kind of exciting, creeping
thing in our office of people seeing
this movie.
And then other people who hadn't seen
it yet working on
the photo shoot and the treatment of
it being like, can I go to screening?
Can you send me the screening link?
It really became this sort of a
sleeper club.
Yeah, that's because I wanted to be
part of. We did do the shoot
before it came out.
Yeah. Yeah.
The shoot was right before
Thanksgiving, I think.
So it was. Yeah, it was a month
before it came out.
Feels like just yesterday with Eddie
Ray.
Oh, I know. I love that shoot.
I think it was really so beautiful.
I love the fashion Jordan picked.
Oh, my God. She's great.
And the sun and the winter.
I know landscape was.
I mean, that's I don't I don't think
you needed to Photoshop anything in
the background.
Didn't seem like it.
You might have gotten rid of a cow.
But yeah, we heard about the cow
errant cow that you insisted.
Swear there's a cow.
Amanda, I want to hear about your
whiplash traveled.
When did you get back from the
Globes?
I got back last night.
OK, we're speaking to Amanda
on Tuesday morning.
I'm very impressed that you are here
looking very fresh.
You know, I
loved your Globes look.
This was a dress that
took 400 hours to make.
I was surprised by that.
It was.
Love to see it.
I love. I just also like I couldn't.
I have to give respect to the
ateliers and like what ateliers.
There you go. I have to give.
What?
The seamstress who folded
all that silk.
It was it's it's too much.
And it looked like perfection.
It was the it was my favorite look.
I loved it was for me it was sort of
giving mank.
I loved it.
It's very old.
I very old Hollywood.
I was a big man.
I love that movie.
Thank you.
So what is the plan for the rest
of award season dressing?
How do you and Elizabeth
Elizabeth Stewart, your stylist?
How do you map that out together?
I think we have we have some really
great relationships with
different fashion houses and
we have our favorites.
And and I think it's just
a conversation between them and
her at first without me without me
involved at all.
And then she'll come to me with who's
interested in dressing me.
And we we've
been wearing a lot of Prada and we
decided to to
wear Versace,
which is always trusted and beautiful
and classic as well.
And and so for for the award,
some of them were just going to be
Versace and then the rest is like
Prada Miu Miu.
I love Sarah Burton's Givenchy.
I would love to.
I'd love to wear one of those.
I used to wear Givenchy all the time
with Ricardo.
Yeah, there's just I don't know, they
have a lot of conversations.
Tiffany, they are
just spraying me in
diamonds every every
opportunity I get.
And that's been really fun because
some of them are archival pieces,
which is incredible.
And I want to do a story on like all
the security guards from the
jewelry houses who have to be sort of
lurking at the award shows.
There's a lot of high
carrots.
Oh, God.
I you know, I always I have this
one or two girls who come in and
grab it from me, but I don't have
security following me at events,
which is funny because because
you know, it's a lot to be wearing.
I did ask them once
at Tiffany for the Academy
Museum Gala. I was like, why aren't
we wearing fake versions of
what you're selling?
Yeah. Just for
relief of stress.
They got extra anxiety for everybody,
including the wearer.
And she's like, it's just not how we
do it. It's not ethical.
And I'm like, OK, well, yeah, I mean,
plenty of art collectors now.
That's a whole thing of having fake
paintings hanging in your house and
then having the real ones in a vault.
It's a bit weird, but it's
the idea. I mean, you do have it.
But I remember someone the other
night, this cutie actress
was like, oh, my ring fell, my
ring fell off my glove.
And then all of a sudden everybody
was like, got their phones out.
And it was it was like it was an
emergency event immediately.
Oh, thank God.
Immediately, because I know she
would have imploded.
I know that feeling of like
checking the ears all the time.
But one night I actually got home.
I think it was after the Academy
Museum Gala.
And I got back to my I stay with my
friend Peter in L.A.
And we were at the bottom of the
driveway. It was raining.
My driver and the
driver of the
necklace who was coming to pick up.
He wasn't a guard.
He was just he worked for the
company to retrieve the necklace.
So it with the flashlight in
the middle of the night, my driver
and this other guy were trying
to take off this.
Oh, they had to do the exchange.
And they couldn't get it.
So I had to FaceTime Jordan,
Elizabeth's assistant
to tell them how to do
it.
Wow.
And then so I was on FaceTime.
The the the driver
of the of the pickup was
had his, you know, phone's
flashlight on.
And my driver was his hands were
trying to
on a job description.
Not again.
I will never do this again.
And the next day I was wearing a
gorgeous new piece from the
blue book.
I was also obsessed when you and
Julia Roberts wore
the Versace jeans look
at Venice back to back.
Credit me.
I credit you.
Credit me. Was that a good idea?
Was that your idea?
It was my idea.
But, you know, Julia has been
working with Elizabeth Stewart
forever.
And and
you should just look hot.
And I was like, is it
still there? She's still there.
It must still be there.
And it was like, oh, my God, she
loves it.
It was a great idea.
And it's so rare that people
actually have fun with
what they're doing.
We should be recycling
these things.
We should be recycling them a lot
more incredible looks.
By incredibly
talented artists
in fashion.
I want to know if there was
anything
that we didn't see at the Golden
Globes that was exciting.
Is there any fun moment?
I feel like there if
it wasn't on
cable or network cameras,
it was on selfie
videos.
And you can't get
away from that.
I do wonder
what it was like back
in the 90s, in the early
aughts, when people didn't have
cell phones and in video
cameras, because
like I was having a conversation
with somebody and it was on it was
on and it was all over Instagram.
And I'm just like,
they're reading your life.
Is that ethical?
But there was it was it was right
there. Somebody was right there.
And I was just like, why?
How how are we not
allowed to go to certain Broadway
shows and bring our phones in?
Yeah.
And how are we at the Golden
Globes? And do we just
not have in-depth conversations
or like are we always should we be
afraid of our privacy or is it
for the taking?
And and then it's like that's
kind of a bigger question.
Like being a celebrity, you know, I
do understand the
lack of privacy and I respect the
fact that I gave it away.
But there are still moments when I
when I forget.
Yeah.
That people are watching.
And it and it did it was a
little bit like unnerving when I
saw that because I just believed,
I guess, stupidly, that it was
it was a private conversation.
Yeah.
Who were you having a conversation
with?
Jennifer Lawrence.
And so I will say my favorite part
of the party was
being at the A24 party
at the Chateau.
There were all the parties were
there. Most of the parties were
there. And I was just on the couch
with a bunch of people
that I like and don't ever see
except at award shows.
Yes.
Or or fashion events.
I also it was a big
topic in our office,
how delighted we were by your
comment on Timothée's
Instagram about him thanking
Kylie for the foundation, because
we all in our chat were like,
does he have a charitable
foundation?
When he said that.
And I do.
It was a very
we felt very validated by you.
So sorry.
Clarifying things.
Clarifying.
I swear I know now
that when I comment on Evan Ross
Katz's Instagram, which I
kind of can't help but do
often because I live for him
or his memes.
And and now I
know that he's in a spot like
them, which is fine.
But also, I think I just
I shouldn't have said it out loud,
but it was funny to me
because that's that's first what I
thought, because I didn't see her
there.
Yeah, I know.
And then I saw her and I was like,
oh, that's really sweet.
He's talking about her.
But then I just thought it was
funny to, like, recap in
the text.
I don't know.
Yeah, I'm glad that we were all
thinking that because a lot of
people did text me.
They're like, oh, my God.
Yes. We all were like, oh, what's
his foundation for?
But you know what?
This is his sign
to start a foundation.
Yeah. So true.
Yeah. I don't care who it's for.
I mean, make it about kids, I
guess.
You know what? I'm not going to
tell him what to do.
He's a smart guy.
Ping pong foundation.
Yeah, totally.
For kids.
I'm kidding.
You do you, Timothy.
Ping pong for kids.
Yeah, exactly.
We should take a moment to
congratulate you on the Vogue
cover. We already said.
But you're it was photographed by
Eddie Ray.
You're wearing Valentino, an
amazing dress.
The shoot took place upstate.
And I think one of the things we
all resonated to was
just like the juxtaposition of
these super glamorous dresses
with that like pastoral landscape
that you talked about.
But we did want to hear you have a
farm upstate. What are you
normally wearing in the farm
around the house?
Around the house, usually
I if I'm feeding in the morning
the night before, I'll just put on
like thicker sweatpants to sleep
in because I know that I'm not
going to want to change when I
wake up.
What time is feeding?
And who are you?
Nine, nine, 30.
I'm not. We're not an early rise.
OK.
Riser Farm.
When I'm feeding, I go out, do
the I open up the chickens
and the peacocks first.
And I'm always wearing those big
toe even in the summer.
I'll wear the big, tall muck boots,
the ones you can't drive a car in
because your foot can't reach
the pedal.
But that's just in
the in the summertime.
You're working with a lot of water
all the time.
And and in the winter, you're kind
of less like you're cut more
covered. So I don't like to
get my legs and my sweatpants wet.
So I'm always wearing the high
boots, even
if they're hot.
I do the chickens and the peacocks.
I feed the ducks at the pond.
I walk across.
I go.
I get the gator first.
I feed the little miniature
ponies to the right.
And sometimes during the summer,
the donkey and the pony are with
them in the winter.
They're in another pasture because
of ice and mud and thaw.
And then I'll go I'll do the
open up the bunny.
I'll put the hay near the goats.
I'll go around to the front.
I'll feed all the big horses
on the different paddocks.
There's three of them, four of them.
And then I'll feed the other many,
many ponies.
And then I'll go in the barn and
I'll and I'll, you know, do the
cats. And
then I will go into the back
and then open up, fully open up the
goats and then reset.
And that's basically how and there's
ducks in the back as well.
This is now up to
90 minutes because of all the
extra and like the the bunny
doesn't take up a lot of time, but
it takes up a lot of space.
And what does that mean?
He needs a lot of space,
like physical space.
The bunny needs. Yeah.
And it's like holding space, like
emotional space.
I have not been able to connect
emotionally to that bunny yet.
OK, what's his name?
He's a rescue.
His name's Bugsy.
OK, he's could
be he could be 37
years old. I have absolutely no
idea. His his eyes.
He's a droopy,
wet eye, but he's
very nice, it seems.
But like, you know, he needs to eat
fresh veggies and stuff like
just like nobody else needs cats
and eat their cat food.
They're those cats are definitely
37.
I don't think they're ever going to
perish. What's the total animal
count right now?
Fifty two.
Wow. Recently.
Yeah. Do you feed with anyone?
I have a caretaker who runs the
farm because I'm not there so often.
The kids will sometimes when you're
always audiobooks.
What's your audiobook of the moment
right now?
Now it's all different.
If the dead belong, here's what I'm
doing.
And I recently added a marriage
at sea.
Oh, that's so good.
The book Sleep by Honor Jones.
I just ate up and the heart's
invisible theories by John Boyne
was a long one.
And he's like Franz and Timmy.
Wow. I know that's crazy because
Jonathan Branson really is my
favorite author.
But I'm really, really into John
Boyne. I read The Echo Chamber or
listened to The Echo Chamber, which
I devoured and sleep
love is a burning thing by Nina St.
Pierre. And I just
I eat them up.
Did you use audiobooks to go about
learning about Emily?
Did you know anything about her
before you began this process of
now making the film?
I.
It's funny, like the testament of
Emily used to be called the woman
clothed by the sun with the moon at
her feet.
Oh, my God. And and
as I think as Mona was was
exploring what she had
already in the in post,
it became clear that because there
was a narrator and this was a
testament of her life, a very
specific portrayal, specific
like specifically designed
fable by Mona
herself, it was it was less
about trying
to reach
her and approach her from the same
way or approach everything else,
but more and just
taking everything that that was
folded into her story that was made
up and designed based on
testaments.
I just had to believe
really happened because
I have to fall in love with this
person.
I have to back myself up.
And now that's a bad way of saying
it, too. God, it's too early.
But but I did I did
have much less
access to Emily's life, obviously,
because she lived 250 years ago
and and I think
it was such a playful perspective
that Mona wrote with and also
a very graphic and and
and human perspective as well
at times. And to balance that was
just following Mona's lead.
But I did all the actually
the other work that's like
the technical accent, which was
the hardest thing. And I still don't
think I can do it very well.
And the dancing,
the movement, that it's so
completely alien to me
at first. Now it's just a part of me.
And the this the singing from
like a human place, like finding
more of a human groundedness
to my voice, which I never had to do
before. I was never asked to do, but
I think would have been appreciated
on all my other musicals.
Yeah, I think
the whole point of the shakers
worship through song and dance.
So it was never not not going to be
a musical.
But in that knowledge
of how, you know, how movement
shaped, shaped how
their devotion and their faith
and how cleansing it was for them
of their sins.
It had to be second nature.
And the singing had to be second
nature. And the only way to do that
to really allow yourself to be free
in that is to let go of the judgment
that you have of your voice or of
anything that you're doing, which
is putting the ego aside to act.
You know, you can't just you can't
judge what you're doing when you're
doing because then you're not
present. But with singing, I've
always been judging
myself as I've been doing it.
So even in Les Mis, I wasn't
present the way I was.
Yeah.
So I had to let go of that very
early on.
And the key to that was
she is human and I need to feel
it. It's not about how it sounds.
It's about how it feels.
And I need the audience to
become a shaker for two and a half
hours.
I feel like I became a shaker for
two and a half hours.
And I was riveted by
the childbirth scenes.
And I was incensed by
the many men who left
the theater when it showed in
Venice.
I didn't ever hear about that.
I thought that was really one of
the most moving parts of the film
for me.
And that's the thing about
Mona is that she's fearless
in her endeavor to make any movie,
anything that she puts her mind to.
She kind of just she just has the
will to
climb through the mess of people
saying no. But she also
is like, well, if I'm making this,
I'm going to make it as realistic
looking as possible.
And the thing that she really
irks her about movies and
portrayals of that
event to be
like cleansed in a way
that just isn't it doesn't
take you there and it doesn't make
people understand
the true nature of
being a woman in, you know,
in childbirth and delivery.
And it's just like it's
like life altering chemically,
everything emotionally, physically
could change your body.
You know, my my son's my
delivery of my son was an actual
nightmare.
And I'm lucky that I didn't have to
go through surgery.
But but my
spine was was was was
affected in a way that shouldn't
have been. Yeah.
And and it's traumatizing,
tries to traumatizing.
I knew immediately
after he shuffled
out, the anesthesiologist
was like, hey, so listen,
the needle punctured the spine.
Because I was I wasn't
the anesthesiologist didn't get
there until.
A little too late, and I couldn't
have had him without the relaxation
of my I mean, he was he was stuck in
my head
and
he's like, I just want to puncture.
So you're going to feel numb up to
your, you know, above your chest.
And I was like, oh, I can't feel my
boobs. This is amazing because
I was so happy.
I was so happy that
he was out and all the everything
that was happening was just because
the epidural had worked too well.
And he's like, so I'm going to have
to put a blood patch in your spine.
And so it's a little procedure.
It'll be fine. We'll do it.
You know, when you wake up later and
after you fed a little bit, it's
just like, great.
Yeah.
I'm done ever
giving birth again.
I was just so thrilled.
And then I woke up again later to
the realities of having
a puncture in your spine.
That's crazy. I mean, I had a similar
thing where I had to have an
emergency C-section.
So they gave me ketamine and I was
so happy on this ketamine.
I was like in heaven.
And then two hours later, I woke up.
I was like, this is a horrible.
Yeah. I can't imagine
waking up and recalling that
extra extra trauma,
because if you try to deliver
it and yeah,
it really is.
It is.
It is so much
more traumatizing than people
realize if they haven't been in the
room or have done it themselves.
And Mona is like, no, we're showing
this. We're going to get the
prosthetic.
We're going to get the blood.
We're going to get the expensive
babies, which are the the ones that
jiggle.
Wow.
That's an interesting distinction.
Ten thousand dollars for that.
Wow.
Yeah. A lifelike robot baby.
Very, very, very.
Where is this baby now?
Like, do you keep them after?
No, we give them back.
Wow. Yeah.
It's they're they're very expensive
and we only had ten million dollars
to make this like epic tale.
Wow.
So we just did what
we could and we had incredible
actors who were able to portray
something that they had never been a
part of. And that's what we do when
we're acting. We're portraying things
that we've only imagined half the
time.
So for me, it was just like I just
could get there sooner, faster
with everybody. And it was beautiful
communion of like this represent
representation of what we go through
in like as humans.
And it's true that you rarely see it
portrayed like that.
I mean, unless it's like the pit.
Exactly.
I do.
I think the only other birth
scene that I've seen
is pieces of a woman.
I think that feels real.
I didn't see it in part because people
kind of warned me off of it.
Yeah. So dramatic.
I think when you're pregnant, it's
worse. Like there are certain movies
this year that I just
know I need to see.
And I can't bring myself to see them
because they deal with.
Yeah, they do.
That deals with something that I do
not need to be reminded of right now.
Yeah. However,
it makes us more human just
to create stories like that.
I'm just in awe
of I mean, Jesse's
the one of the our best actors,
but also just that they're doing.
I love that story.
I just there's a lot of movies
like that right now.
And the childbirth scene is included
in that if you're.
And but I also think it was so
important also to remember
that we're not just showing what it's
like, we're also honoring
new women and men
and lose their children during
and shortly after childbirth, too,
because that is that
is a whole other level of grief.
Yeah. And that's what and that's what
shaped and Lee.
Yeah. So there are many
reasons to show it.
But in general, if we're going to go
there, we need to go there.
Yeah.
I thought it was such a feminist film
in that way, not in terms of like any
political attachment of the word,
but just in terms of like really
showing the effect that such a loss
could have on a woman.
Like, yeah, it could galvanize
her to start a new religion because
it's so dramatic.
So I thought it was like one
of the more moving elements
of the film.
And you need to earn that
kind of levity she has.
Yeah. When she finds her purpose
again and to
mother everyone.
But it's just it's important.
So when you get to the end, you feel
you feel that you've gone with her.
Yeah.
I want to know about
onset in Budapest because it sounds
like it was speaking of this
extremely maternal
sororal environment that
almost feels like it could only have
been created by someone
like Mona, who is that open
and inclusive.
I think inclusive is a great,
great word to describe it.
The lack of hierarchy on that set
was, you know,
reflected not only how
Mona and I like to work in general,
leading a show, but
also how Annie
designed the Shaker community.
It's like equality for all
doesn't matter your gender or your
race in the 18th century
was completely radical.
And and obviously
we know this is this this does work.
It does a community working
together and caring for
each other.
And, you know, desiring
connection like that is what
makes us be able to create
good things.
The whole set felt like a family.
Everybody understood why they were
there. Everybody understood that
they were getting paid minimum
and everybody was there because
they believed in Mona's portrayal
of Annie and the story
that needed to be told, like it was
just a bunch of grownups
and and
empaths kind of hanging out.
Grownups and empaths.
I love that.
It was. Yeah.
And lots and lots of animals.
Yes. And Finn did travel to Europe.
I feel like that's a children's
book I would like to read.
You don't want. It's a it's a really
ridiculous.
I took a private jet if you really
want to know.
Well, I'm happy.
I'm happy for Finn.
He deserves that.
It was more about his frozen meat.
Oh, my gosh. Say more.
You guys need to explain who Finn is
first. Sorry.
Everyone knows Finn.
I legendary.
I have I have really
marketed my dog from day one
pretty well, I think.
But he speaks for himself.
He markets himself.
He is my 16
and a half year old dog.
So when we shot the movie, he was 15
and he is
a great traveler.
He's always traveled with me.
Wow. Since since birth.
And I
couldn't couldn't see myself being
away for six weeks without him,
including my family, because he's
included in that.
And so we we had to hire
I had to I had to pay for a private
jet, which is not in my
best interest financially.
But it was in his best interest and
my emotional best interest because I
needed him there.
And so did the family.
So we we we traveled him on a
private jet with his 80
pounds of frozen dog meat.
Wow.
Dog food.
And what kind of is it?
It's venison.
Eighty pounds of frozen dog food.
Just food for dogs makes a venison
squash diet.
And he can't his diet cannot change
at this age. We cannot afford
some experiment stomach issue
diarrhea.
And so we brought his beef
so we didn't have any issues with
that. We you know, traveling a dog
commercially is very difficult,
especially overseas.
And I couldn't get the right
paperwork.
And so I was I just
bit the bullet. And then I spent the
year, you know, working
for that jet.
I also want to know about
Mona showing your daughter Mean
Girls for the first time.
Did you was it?
It wasn't.
Sorry, not Mona.
Mona's daughter.
It was Mona's daughter.
How old is his daughter?
She's 11 now.
But we went to Zurich a couple of
months ago as
like for like a mother daughter trip
because Mona and I had to
premiere the film at
the Zurich Film Festival.
And so we'd never been to Zurich.
So we all went, the four of us.
And we had a meeting
with Searchlight on Zoom.
So the girls sat on the bed, the
opposite side of the room.
And Ada asked if she could
show Nina Mean Girls.
And I was like, it's not really
sure.
And and she did.
And they watched half of it because
it got too late.
And and then
she said that she didn't think it
was that funny, but she really loved
my role. That was Nina's
critique of Mean Girls at age eight.
So it'll be a while before they
watch The Housemaid.
That's for sure.
Ada saw The Housemaid.
Did she really?
Wow.
And she loved it.
What was her review?
She loved it.
Like everyone who's seen it.
Very, very
excited about it.
And she didn't think that
the tooth part was as scary
as it was for me
and for most people.
She doesn't she hasn't gotten to the
age where she dreams about her teeth
falling out, maybe.
Maybe that's what it is.
That is a persistent nightmare for a
lot of people.
Oh, I want to ask about turning 40.
Oh, yeah. Happy birthday.
That was a part of Claire's story.
I know.
Loved all the details of party
planning.
Was your mom surprised by your sister
surprising her?
My mom?
Yes.
It was so out of left field for her,
which is great to be able to really
surprise somebody.
It's hard.
And I didn't
forget that I hadn't told her.
So no one had ruined the surprise.
My sister woke up because she'd
gotten there late.
My sister woke up the next day,
meaning she'd gotten there late.
So she stayed in the barn.
So my mom wouldn't see her.
She we Halloween decorations
take a time to put away.
So we still had some, like I said,
remnants of
the party.
And there was a cow hat.
So she walked to the house.
I walked with her and she walked
through the house and
my girlfriend was still there who
came up to celebrate with me.
And she videoed the whole thing.
And I'm walking into the kitchen.
My mom's watching some kind of
video on her phone about
like birds and
like on Instagram.
And and my sister walks
in with the cow head.
She goes, move.
And even though Jennifer was
in the room as well, my mom
thought that maybe the cow was
Jennifer.
Is Jennifer your sister?
No, Jennifer's my best friend.
OK. And Jenny's my sister.
They're both Jennifer.
And she takes off the cow head.
And my mom's just like
and and my sister goes,
what's wrong with you?
My mom's like, I just
I'm so surprised.
And I thought for a second she was
having a stroke because
there was just she was lifeless for
a second.
And it was scary.
I mean, it can be very I
fainted when my mom threw me a
seven year old surprise.
I fainted during my 13th.
Yes. It's crazy.
She it was like a surprise party at
a haircutting place in L.A.
temporary.
And Tipper.
Yes. And I walked in and
everyone jumped out and I just like
collapsed like a tree.
And everyone was like, oh, no.
Shock is shock.
Yes, exactly.
That is so I know.
My God, your mom must have been so
scared. She was mortified.
Oh, no.
I did. I bounced back.
I got my hair crimped.
I got the whole thing.
Oh, nice.
I bet everybody was crimping.
That's what we did.
Yeah.
God, that is so funny.
Birthday party that you can answer
that. It was a surprise party.
My only surprise party I ever had
because I hate surprises
and it was in my friend's basement.
And I remember wearing a really
ugly maroon polo shirt.
Ralph Lauren.
It was a boys.
I was going through that.
It was the late 90s.
God, though, it was so because my
crush was there and it was after
I came like came
back around.
I was very happy.
And, you know, we weren't drinking
at that point in our lives.
So it was just as you as
you know, run of the mill
sober party.
But my 40th was at a roller rink
and that was just that was
so exciting.
And I played a lot of Backstreet Boys
and NSYNC, a lot
of Taylor Swift
and Serena Carpenter
and Britney.
You are a big Swiftie.
Yeah, I'm a very, very large
fan.
What is your go to Swiftie song?
When I was
surprised with the I did something
bad at the end of The Housemaid,
my friend Kendra and I screamed
because we were watching we watched
it with a bunch of my publicists
were there like friends.
We all squealed because we didn't
know and we didn't know if we were
going to be able to lock it in
because it was not a final cut.
And so I called Lionsgate.
I was like, this has to be in it.
If it is not in it, the movie will
not be good.
But now I'm I'm into reputation
that I like I never was
because you go through phases like
I went I went through more red
phases than anything.
I love her new album,
Life of a Showgirl.
That song, Life of a Showgirl, is one
of my favorite songs that she's ever
done, she's
ever made. And
Midnight's is still probably
my favorite all together.
Well, I don't know.
OK, it's hard.
Thank you so much, Amanda.
We love you for putting me.
No, we were so happy.
I'm by the way, it's my favorite
shoot.
It was beautiful.
I love this shoot.
I know you guys.
I'm in so much trouble.
No, sorry.
Don't get in trouble.
You're the best.