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We planted that church together along with the other pastors eight years, or 11 years ago.
It was the 11 year anniversary actually, on Sunday.
And it is remarkable to see that sort of thing in America.
To watch people disrupt, frighten children, harass churchgoers who are simply trying to worship God.
This is not a political church.
This is a church that worships Jesus, loves one another, seeks the good of their neighbors,
and instead of going to normal Sunday, they have loud, angry, vile people screaming and chanting at them.
As he said, it was shameful.
The pastors tried to engage in conversation.
That wasn't going to take place.
But the young lady mentioned that after it all calmed down, after it all settled down,
that church and many other people from the area in Minneapolis regathered last night in the church,
and they had their worship service.
Well, thank goodness they were able to do that.
Pastor, you spoke with the young woman in that church.
Was she scared when that happened?
She was somewhat scared, but she had confidence that the Lord was really going to protect them from violence.
And there was just a lot of verbal agitation, verbal accusations, a lot of lies.
I mean, you heard Don Lemon spewing a lot of lies, in my opinion.
So, yes, there was some fear, but there was a sense of calm because of the way the pastors led and handled it.
The Department of Justice is investigating the anti-ICE protesters
who disrupted services at a church in Minnesota over the weekend.
But the state's attorney general claims the demonstrators and journalist Don Lemon,
who was with them, did not break the federal law the DOJ is accusing them of.
Douglas Zader joins us live from Washington with all the details.
Hi, Doug.
Carly and Todd, good morning.
This was an extraordinary escalation of the protests in Minnesota, the storming of church.
Now, here's how this played out as former CNN host Don Lemon joined with protesters
who believed one of the pastors at a church in St. Paul had connections to ICE.
We're here to worship.
We're here to worship Jesus because that's the hope of these cities.
That's the hope of the world is Jesus Christ.
I want to be very respectful.
Please don't push me, though.
We're here.
We're here to worship Jesus.
That's why we're here.
That's what we're about.
Don't you think Jesus would be understanding and love these folks?
We're about spreading the love of Jesus.
But did you try to talk to them as a Christian?
No one is willing to talk.
Minnesota's attorney general says protesters who stormed that church
did not violate what's called the Federal Face Act,
but the Justice Department may not see it that way.
What you saw there was anti-Christian, anti-law enforcement,
rioters storming a church in this country,
and that's a violation of law, and we are absolutely investigating.
Our Civil Rights Unit has already sent experts out to Minneapolis today.
The Civil Rights Unit, the U.S. Attorney's Office, the FBI, DHS
is investigating this because what you saw,
you saw the fear in the eyes of the members of that church.
Lemon, meantime, defended his actions, saying this in a statement.
It's notable that I've been cast as the face of a protest I was covering
as a journalist, especially since I wasn't the only reporter there.
That framing is telling.
I stand by my reporting.
Lemon has said that racism is a part of the ongoing immigration
enforcement efforts.
He has also said that some of his critics have a sense of entitlement
based on white supremacy.
Todd and Carl.
The double down did not end there.
Doug, thank you.
For more on the double down from Don Lemon,
let's bring in Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council,
a former pastor and police officer.
You got quite a resume there, Tony.
Lemon doubling down an interview.
Doug alluded to this following that church raid,
saying this is not the type of Christianity I practice,
and accusing that particular church of white supremacy.
Your response, Tony?
Well, very telling.
What we're seeing here is a very clear violation of the FACE Act,
a law going back to Bill Clinton in the 1990s that was designed to
protect abortion clinics, but Orrin Hatch put a provision in there
to protect churches.
They violated it.
But we have to understand there's something bigger here.
This is the hostility toward religion in this country has been latent
for some time.
Now it has become blatant, this hatred toward God.
And going back to something that House Speaker Mike Johnson said before
the parliament just about an hour ago, that what is taught in the classroom
in one generation will become the ruling philosophy of the next generation
in government.
And that's what we see.
This is what has been taught, this anti-Christian, anti-Western values
to lead to a place where someone who claims to be a journalist charging
into a church, interrupting a Sunday morning worship service.
This is something that we cannot tolerate in our country.
Protest?
Yeah, fine.
You go on the street, stand out on the street, but when you're breaking
into a church service, interrupting a worship service,
we've crossed a new red line.
Yeah, you mentioned the speaker's speech just moments ago.
He issued the phrase, freedom will destroy itself if it has no purpose.
That is a reflection on a historical speech made by a historical figure
I'm just blanking on.
I believe that was Margaret Thatcher.
But he also emphasized the importance of moral and religious foundational
support.
You need that support to prop up that freedom.
And, Tony, you also invoked the FACE Act.
I want to let the audience know exactly what it says.
Quote, makes it a crime for someone who, by threat of force or by physical
obstruction, intentionally injures, intimidates, or interferes with any
person lawfully exercising or seeking to exercise the First Amendment right
of religious freedom at a place of religious worship.
As you referred to the Orrin Hatch Amendment to that law, Assistant
Attorney General Harmeet Dhillon responding to Don Lemon posting the
following, a house of worship is not a public forum for your protest.
It is a space protected from exactly such acts by federal, criminal,
and civil laws.
Nor does the First Amendment protect your pseudo-journalism of disrupting
a prayer service.
You are on notice.
Do you think that everyone involved in this church invasion, Tony,
needs to be prosecuted as a way to deter future incidents like this?
I do think that those who violated the law need to be prosecuted to the
full extent of the law.
Now, you saw Pastor Parnell having this conversation with Don Lemon,
very gracious in his conversation, but very clear.
This is a worship service.
We're worshiping the Lord Jesus Christ.
You're welcome to come in and be a part of that worship service, but you're
not free to disrupt it and to intimidate us in what we're doing.
And so I think the law needs to be enforced.
As a police officer back in the 90s when they were using this against
pro-lifers, I've long advocated that those who don't like the law, if you
want to make it go away, apply it to the left.
And I think this is the opportunity to do that, to ensure that religious
freedom in this country is fully protected, and this is one way to do it.
Same church, different pew, no pun intended, to that last answer you just
gave and your original answer.
But why do you think the so-called tolerant left has become so intolerant of
religion on the whole, specifically Christianity and Judaism, Tony?
Well, because there is a standard, a biblical truth.
Christians, this church is a Southern Baptist church affiliated with the
Southern Baptists.
They still believe the Bible.
They believe the word of God.
And worship, we often hear about the freedom of worship.
It's not just the ability to go to a church on a Sunday morning.
It's the ability to live your life according to your faith.
That's the problem that many have with Orthodox Christianity or Judaism is
that people actually live by their faith.
They believe that God defines what life is.
He defines what human sexuality is.
He defines what marriage is.
And that is really the bottom line I think people like Don Lemon have a
problem with is that there is transcendent truth by which people live
their lives.
Religion is such an important foundation in whatever you do,
no matter the religion.
And I think that is a vital point that you just made, Tony,
that Speaker Johnson made just a few moments ago there in England.
Hopefully that message gets through to our country and to the UK as well.
Tony Perkins, great insight this morning.
Thank you, sir.
Hello, everyone.
Sheriff Grady Judd here.
I'm standing in a house of worship.
And I think about last weekend in St.
Paul, Minnesota, where people who came to worship were attacked.
They were attacked by rioters.
The service was disrupted.
They cut at the very fabric of this great United States of America.
We settled this country so many years ago so we could worship free the way we
wanted to in whatever house of worship we chose.
That attack is unacceptable.
I can assure you that had that attack been in this community,
every one of those rioters would be in jail today.
That's where the federal government could have found them,
on state charges, locked up.
And I pray it's that same way all across the United States of America.
Enough is enough.
Let's join together for the good of the United States of America.
Let's worship the way we want to.
And let's everyone renounce the horribleness of last Sunday in St.
Paul, Minnesota.
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