STILL RELEVANT? 90'S INTEGRA TYPE R vs NEW CIVIC TYPE R

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Today, it's old school versus new school in an all-Honda shootout between two variants of the
mighty Type R. With 25 years of tech between them, today it's all-motor versus turbo,
Civic versus Integra, and we're about to see which one of these VTEC-equipped siblings is fastest.
Let's get over and meet today's cars and their owners. First up today, introducing
Dav from MIMS Honda Day, repping Team New School in Honda's latest revision of their Type R.
He's pulled up in his 2024 2.0-litre inline four-cylinder turbo-powered 324bhp
FL5 Honda Civic Type R, stepping up in bone stock form. And stepping up to race him today,
it's me, Jamie, in my very own DC2. Now, aside from the original Honda NSX Type R,
the DC2 Integra was actually the first production Type R to hit the roads,
and originally equipped with the B18C 1.8-litre naturally aspirated engine. But mine's underwent
just a little surgery and has been fitted with the notorious 2.4-litre K24 four-cylinder engine
from a JDM Accord Type S, and then tuned just a little, giving it a new 277bhp power output
from its naturally aspirated power plant. Let's get some sound checks and specs.
And as usual, we'll be extracting all of today's race data
from our V-Box Performance Box Touch GPS timing tools. And first up today,
it's the quarter-mile road races. Place your bets and let's get it.
All right, gang. Old school gang. K24 life and that. Let's go. Shout out to MK Performance
each and every time, baby. All right. So, my excuses right now. Ain't got as much power.
Also, my shift light, my cables, they're not right. They're not 100% right. So,
I might do a little bit of a mis-shift. Not like me, but it might happen.
Have to put a disclaimer in there. But if I don't, it's all good.
Excuse-wise, that's pretty much it. That's another car. I don't know, man. This is JDM
legendary right here. I'm not going to be wrong, that's JDM, but it ain't got legendary status
like this. This is the first Type R outside of a supercar, which was NSX. First, the most recent.
So, we're all about to find out. That's close. I can't get those silky smooth shifts in.
The selector on this ain't right, but if I could, I might have just nudged that. That is close
racing. Yeah, that was close. That was close. Bro, honestly, if I could slap gears in this,
man, we would be neck and neck. But you know what? I'll give it a better try on the next one. Let's
see how we do. And the Civic gets the first win by a car's length. Damn, let's line back up and
go again. All right, I need to take one back. I need to get one back for the old school boys.
That second to third is the tricky one.
That fourth to fifth, if I could do it quicker, if I could get it in quicker,
I'd have had that. I'm going to say he beat me by a bumper. And that time, I managed to close
the gap, but it's just not enough. The Civic takes the race by a bumper. Bro, you got me,
man. My fourth to fifth shift is so slow. That's when you're clawing it back. Bro, that is close
racing. It couldn't get no closer, like mid-track. Yeah, your last shift is a bit slow. I could hear
it. Bro, I'm struggling for life to get it in, bro. It's no good. But anyway, bro, listen,
you take the roll races, yeah? I give that to you. But now it's time for the drag race. Let's
see if you can pedal, bro. Okay, cool. So new school takes the rolls, but let's see what's
faster on the drags. Place your bets and let's race. Just imagine, that's close. It's close.
It's a lot closer than I thought it'd be. I thought one car would have a bigger advantage
than the other, but mid-track, bro, we are like neck and neck. I can hear the slow shifting as
well. I was like, I'm hoping you do the slow shifting, so I can, yeah. All right, cool.
All right, big up to MK Performance. Come on, we out here trying, we out here trying.
Next upgrade is some shifter cables in this bad boy, but let's see if I can pedal this off the
line. I've got my work cut, I can feel it, and I ain't launched this car in a while. But anyway,
enough excuses. Hopefully, I hit them gears. All right, let's bring her forward. Ready, set, go.
Let's go.
Oh, the shifts ain't liking it, boys.
But we got him. Let's go. Let's go. Yes, brother. How did that taste?
Yeah, do you know what? I messed up a shift though, so don't get too excited yet.
And I come back swinging and put two car lengths on the FL2 by the finish line. Let's go. All right,
I hope you're not using shifts as excuses, bro. That's my line. That's my excuse.
Yeah, if you can use it, I can use it as well.
Bro, honestly, you know what? I don't know if it's the gearbox, I don't know if it's the
shifter cables, I don't know if it's the clutch, but something ain't right in this car at the
moment. The clutch pedal's sticking a little bit. But anyway, listen, enough excuses. All right,
come on, JDM enthusiasts, old school boys, this one's for you. Well, if I mess it up,
it's not for you, but if I get it, it's for you. You know what I mean?
Ready, set, go.
Honestly, if this box was smoother, I'd have got him there, but he got off well.
Yes, brother, you came back, you came back. But listen, that's all you're taking home.
That's all you're taking home, because the next one I got you, boy.
No, no, I don't think so. Not this time.
And the Civic comes back strong and beats my Integra to the line by half a car's length.
Mad. We need to settle this with a decider. Let's go.
My reactions need to be better. What's your reactions this time? I'm coming, I'm coming,
I'm coming, I'm coming. What's your reactions this time? Let's go. MK Performance. Remember
that name, yeah? Big Mahir, MK Performance, for the win. Let me see if I can take this home.
On your marks, get set, go.
She's not well, but she's still putting the work. Big up to MK Performance. Shout out to the old
school, original Type R material. And yep, the K24 DC2 seals the deal,
scabby shifts and all, and puts a car length on the Civic at the finish line. Let's go.
We need to do one more, we need to do one more. All right, I got a bonus race for you.
I got a good one, yeah? You drive this, I'll drive that. You'll see what I'm up against.
How about that? I'm willing to see, I'm willing to see. Let's do it, let's do it.
I got him though, big MK.
The shifts are so slow, but I'm still... It's the start, we've done them. Go on then,
let's see if you can drive that then. Yeah. Go on, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, go on.
The shifts. Good luck, good luck. I'll tell you that much. All right, let me have a little go
then, for what you want. It's going to go straight. We go straight into it. Actually,
have a quick one up and down. I'm going to run out of fuel, but anyway.
What's going on here? I'll tell you that much.
You're watching Slapped, every gear perfect.
Have you got it in?
Bro, do you know how bad it is? I don't even need to test this car.
It's in gear, it's not even coming out of gear.
Where's the handbrake on this new school technology? Am I in gear? How does this even work?
Jesus, nice clutch. Yo, bro, am I in my most spiciest setting? I hope you didn't turn me down
or anything. What does this R plus button do? Is traction control off? Fully off, yeah?
Yeah, yeah, it's all good. It's as it should be. This ain't even going into gear, bro.
Now you know what I'm saying. All right, cool, let's have it then. May the best man win, yeah?
Ready, set, go.
Yes, bro. You know what? Yeah, so I think everything started working when you drove it.
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bro, that is... Do you know the two cons? My camera died, by the way. Sorry, guys,
my camera died. It saved me, actually. But that clutch is so low, right?
His clutch is like nice and high and everything. I don't know where red line is,
but also this is a lot more urgent. A lot more urgent. That is very kind of sedate,
like this you feel everything. I couldn't even tell if I was in gear. Anyway, bro, listen,
I don't know who won that. It's too close to call. Okay. So we're basically going to call
that one a tie. Maybe I might have had the edge, but no action replay. But yeah, it's all good.
So let's take a look over at the fastest times achieved by the Hondas during the runs using the
V-Box PVTs and extracting the data using RaceLogic's test suite software. And both cars are not quite
fast enough over the given distance to record any 100 to 200 kph times. But looking over at the
fastest quarter mile times achieved, I can confirm the little teggy crosses the line in the fastest
time, recording a 14.10 second pass at a speed of 103 miles per hour. Let's go. Beating the
Civic's best time of 14.50 seconds at a speed of 102 miles an hour. Mad. And then taking a look
over at the fastest zero to 60 times achieved. Once again, the old school takes it. The Integra
hits 60 in 5.81 seconds, beating the Civic's best time of 5.92 seconds. That's data to paint a
clearer picture. So today we lined up two variants of the mighty Type R and it was a pretty mixed
bag of results, but ultra tight racing. The new school takes the rolls and the old school takes
the drags. See, I've already made up enough excuses about my gearbox, but personally, I think had my
gearbox been working on point, the old school would have cleaned up absolutely everything here today.
But I'll let you guys be the judge of that. Regardless, we all know Type Rs are bred for the
track and hitting corners. But for today at least, both of these distant siblings turn out to be
ultra tight competitors over the quarter mile. A massive shout out to Dav for stepping up and
making this one happen for the culture. But tell me this, if you could only have one of the two
cars to smash down a country B road, which one would it be? And why? And if you've enjoyed today's
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Peace out.
