The Consumer Is Not Well — What Breaks Next? Henrik Zeberg
Dec 17, 2025 Investing
Recorded on December 16, 2025.
In this Natural Resource Stocks interview, Steve Yang sits down with Henrik Zeberg, Head Macro Economist at Swissblock, to map the sequence he believes markets are heading into next: late-cycle strength, mounting consumer stress, and a recession window that becomes obvious to the broader public as 2026 unfolds. Henrik breaks down why headline narratives can stay optimistic even as underlying data deteriorates, and why liquidity and the US dollar can become the dominant force during a deflationary shock. He also explains why risk assets can still push higher in the near term, while warning that the setup can change fast once the economy rolls over.
The opinions expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect those of Natural Resource Stocks. #Millettian
Guest links
Swissblock: https://swissblock.net/
Swissblock Technologies
The Zeberg Letter at Swissblock: https://swissblock.net/products/repor...
Swissblock Technologies
Henrik on X: https://x.com/HenrikZeberg
X (formerly Twitter)
Henrik on Substack: https://henrikzeberg.substack.com/
Henrik Zeberg
Henrik on YouTube: / @henrikzeberg6748
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Host and channel links
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Natural Resource Stocks YouTube: / @naturalresourcestocks
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Steve Yang X: / steveyang_market
Steve Yang LinkedIn: / steveyang88
Chapters
00:00 Intro and 2026 outlook
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01:23 The recession becomes obvious within six months
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08:29 Consumer stress and unemployment pressure
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20:00 Fed policy mistakes and bubble risk
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22:36 Super Santa rally idea and whipsaw markets
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24:23 Dollar demand and deflationary liquidity squeeze
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26:00 FOMO phase, then caution into Q1 and beyond
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28:23 What signals Zeberg watches as conditions roll over
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34:14 Bitcoin in a real recession and bubble warning
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34:55 Gold timing after the pullback
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36:04 Deflation first, then pressure for a new system
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