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In January, when I put all my debts down on paper, uh, total of 10 credit cards
and two vehicle payments, uh, two vehicle notes, I was around $90,000 in debt.
I've brought that down to 65, five in the past 10 months.
I cut up seven of the 10 credit cards.
There's three that are still open that have a balance on them.
And then the two vehicles, um, are the majority of that balance.
So my question is anytime I've got an extra income, I've put
it towards the debt snowball.
I'm trying to get out of baby step two as fast as possible.
I have a unique situation and I have, uh, my stepson is 19.
Our child is nine.
Back in 2019, I had a little bit of extra income.
I put it into a five 29 account for both of them, about 4,000 each.
That has gone up when my 19 year old graduated high school in 2024, he went
to a local community college totaling about $3,000 for both semesters,
which is very affordable.
After the semester ended last year, he came to us, said, I'm not
interested in college, I don't want to go.
So I was told that the two that would manage the five 29 account, I can just
roll his amount into my son, my younger son's amount.
My question is between their two five 29 accounts, about $11,500.
I have roughly eight to nine years before my youngest even will go to college.
I know I get penalized for taking money out of the five 29 account for
you, if I'm not using it for school.
That's right.
Is it worth it taking that money out now getting penalized and putting it towards
my debts, uh, and then, you know, building it back up for my younger son after I'm
debt free, or is it better to keep it in those accounts for the time being until
he goes to school eight, nine years from now, if he goes to school eight or nine
years from now?
Um, I have some thoughts in my head about it.
Can you tell me more about these cars though, before I tell you my thoughts?
Yeah, uh, I'm sure it's not the Dave Ramsey way, but these were purchased.
Uh, we moved to South Carolina three years ago and we drove hoopties for a long time.
So in 2022, right after we moved, I did end up buying my wife, a more reliable
vehicle.
I bought her a 2022 that had a 2022 Hyundai that has about 15,000 left on it.
15,000.
What's it worth if you sold it?
Just curious.
Uh, that I don't have off the top of my head.
I do not know.
Do you think you're upside down?
No, no.
Honestly, I, one of the things when I took FPU, the reason I took it was that I was
like, I make good money.
My wife makes okay money.
So like, how do we just never have money?
And when I looked at stuff, I was like, oh, well, we're paying for this.
We're paying for this.
So I feel like the last 10 months we've really turned our life around financially
where I, I handle the finances solely.
Not that I don't keep my wife involved.
It was just when we got together, she's like, I'm not into finances.
I don't hear the last call.
I did.
And I was actually laughing during it because it's the exact same thing.
My wife, I tell my wife all of our financial stuff, but she just is not, she
doesn't want to pay the bills.
She lets me handle that.
And that was even before we got married.
When we got engaged, she's like, I'm going to have you handle the finances.
Interesting.
We'll talk more about that later.
Tell us about car number two.
Car number two is a vehicle that I bought for myself.
Uh, it's a, it was a 2024 that I bought in 2024, a Toyota truck.
The vehicle I had before I drove literally until
this car, because what you're doing is you're, you're qualifying it before you
tell us, and we don't care.
We don't care.
I don't care if the engine blew up on the last one.
And so you went to the dealership and you guys, they suckered you in.
We want you to be debt-free and we're not going to let you
excuse yourself out of it.
We want you to hit your goals.
So tell us about car number two, this 2024 truck.
Yeah.
Car number two.
I planned on at the time this before FPU, I planned on buying a used vehicle.
Um, when I went to the dealership, the used vehicle, this was not that much
more expensive than the used vehicles at the time.
Tell us the amount, please.
Oh, it was, it was 54,000 out the door.
What do you owe now?
What I know I have 30 on it.
Okay.
So you've been paying it down.
Yeah.
And I know you're talking about emotional spending.
I did get a nice bonus that year, like a very large bonus.
So that was like, I'm going to spoil myself with a new vehicle.
Instead of paying off the other debt.
You were like, you know what?
Let's still go into debt.
This is, but yeah, this is pre FPU before I knew all this stuff.
Sure.
But common sense would say, let's maybe try to get out of the
hole before we dig a new one.
It would.
And I'm taking my glasses off because yet again, George, this is all, is all
emotional, all your caveats, all of the things that you were trying to qualify.
It's emotional.
And I get that.
I want you to hear me all day.
You were tired.
You were frustrated.
You wanted to feel like your income was being spent on the things that you enjoy.
Right.
Am I wrong?
You were tired of driving hoopties.
You're a man.
You want your wife to feel like she's, you know, that you love her and you
want to spoil her a little bit.
I see it.
I hear it.
I have felt it.
I understand.
And you called in trying to figure out how to get out of debt faster.
True.
Yeah.
So the plan, the, you know, the, the debt snowball is working for me, but I'm any
extra money I'm having come in.
I'm trying to throw at that.
I just want to get that debt down as fast as possible.
What's your income?
Uh, after tax, I make about 72 a year.
That's with your wife.
No, no.
My wife makes probably about hers is kind of up in the air because when we moved,
she doesn't work full time.
So she kind of has the luxury of what's a normal month.
She worked full time.
She, yes, she's actually in the past two, three months.
She has started working more hours.
Okay.
Cause right now we don't have the luxury of working part time.
We both need to be working full time.
So between the two of us, pre-tax we're probably closer to one 20 a year.
Okay.
And so what, like 7,000 a month, 7,500 a month.
Yeah, just around.
Yeah.
I'd say that's the sweet spot right there.
Oh, go ahead.
George.
I just want to make sure we answer your question.
I would not crack open my child's piggy bank to essentially make my truck payment.
No.
And so I would be selling that truck.
And the truth is you're going to pay income tax on that college money.
You're going to pay a 10% penalty.
So that 11,000 quickly turns into seven grand and you're unplugging the
growth, which that's going to double triple by the time your kid's in college.
And that's if you do nothing to it.
So I don't want to unplug the growth.
I don't want to pay all these taxes and penalties while this
money's growing tax-free.
And for that reason, I would sacrifice for my own life before hurting the kid's future.
So that's what I personally would do is sell the truck, work extra.
I would not touch the 529.
Yeah, I agree.
And for other reasons too, it's too much of your world to have this much tied up
in vehicles that are going down in value.
Yeah, that is very true.
You've got some nice cars in that driveway.
I'd rather see you guys building wealth instead of driving a truck that's
going down in value every day.
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