Trying to live an energetic and purposeful life means meeting with challenges around every corner. For some of us, the dreaded 'burnout' can hit us, draining our mind, body, and soul.
For tips on how to combat that stress, NTD sat down with Josie Carignan, a coach and the author of "Recharged: Break Up with Burnout & Walk in Sustainable Strength." -- 📺 Watch NTD News 24/7 on cable, broadcast, and streaming: https://www.ntd.com/watch
Welcome back to NTD. Good morning.
Trying to live an energetic and
purposeful life is frequently met with
challenges around every corner. For most
of us, the dreaded burnout can come and
drain our body, our mind, and even feel
like it's draining our souls.
>> I know. But joining us with practical
tips is Josie Carden. She's a coach and
author of Recharged: Break Up with
Burnout: Walk in Sustainable Strength.
Thank you so much for joining us. It's
great to have you here. And what a
perfectly timed book for the holiday
season
>> and we're very excited to talk about the
book Recharged. But before we get into
it, I just like to get a little bit more
about your background. I I found it so
interesting.
>> Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for having
me today. I am an author and a pastor
and I've done philanthropic and charity
work my whole life, ministry work. I
grew up in Sweden, moved to the US in my
teenage years and since then have um
done a number of different charities and
things of that nature. along the path
found myself a little bit burned out and
that's why I wrote the book.
>> Yeah. You've you've got a big mission
and it takes a lot of work to make it
happen. Yeah.
>> Um but you've put a lot out there to
support others and if you could tell us
more about your work with the
organization Rescue Her.
>> Yeah. So several years ago, this has
been back a long time, I encountered in
my travels and my other ministry work
human trafficking. And it was something
that just really gripped my heart. I
think once you've seen it, you can't
unsee it. And for me, I thought, what
can I do? And it feels really
overwhelming because you hear the
statistics and you're talking about
millions and millions. But I really felt
this tug like if I could help one and if
everybody could help one. And so Rescue
Her was the name that was birthed out of
that because what if we could all help
one? So I started a nonprofit called
Rescue Her. It's still going strong
today. I've handed over the reigns to
another um lady who leads it. She's
phenomenal. and we have a crisis hotline
in the Dallas area. We work with victims
and advocacy for them after they come
out of human trafficking. So, it's been
a phenomenal journey.
>> Wow. So inspiring and that message is so
important, especially during the holiday
season. Some people are overwhelmed by
how they can help and your message of
just try to help one person. And if
everybody could do that and it's a great
segue into this book, Recharged, because
when you're burnt out, you feel like you
can hardly help yourself. let alone help
others. So, what did you take from all
of these experiences to say, you know,
this this is the next project. I need to
write this book, Recharged.
>> Yes. Well, I think we all have a purpose
here on the planet and we need to
fulfill it. So, that means we have to
figure out a way to stay sustainably
strong and not just do all this stuff
and then crash and burn. And I think
it's very common. It happened to me. I
know that for sure. And actually the
book came out of a moment where my
husband went to go and uh drive a
vehicle that had been standing for a
long time and the battery had died. And
it just just inspired me with this kind
of parable of a battery that reminds me
of our lives. And the answer to the
question of getting burned out is not
really to park your car and not do
anything. A car was designed to drive
down the road and it actually recharges
its battery while it's doing what it was
created to do. And we're created to do
good on the planet. I think we all have
a God designed in that way. And so just
giving up and quitting is not the
answer. So instead, I went on this
journey of how can we then walk in a way
that's not overwhelming and not doing
too much, but doing the thing that we
were intended to do because I think a
lot of us pick up too much along the
way. the things that we're obligated to
do, the pain, the hurt, the trauma, the
things that maybe we're good at but
we're not necessarily called to be
doing.
>> Incredible. And that's a beautiful
message. What did you learn along the
way of writing this book?
>> Well, I learned a lot about cars because
I started talking about batteries the
whole time. I was like, I didn't know.
But there's such a thing, for example,
called a parasitic drain where things in
the car that are not meant to be on are
draining that battery. And I think a lot
of times that true of our lives. It can
be things like past pain, people
pleasing, um unforgiveness, just things
that we are not taking the time to
notice. And just like you have to go and
diagnose a car sometimes, what's wrong
with it? I think it's important for
people to go and get help when they find
themselves in those situations where
they're like, I don't know why I'm so
exhausted. Maybe you need some help to
figure out what that drain is that you
might not even be aware of. I think
that's important. And then just having
the boundaries of knowing what am I
meant to be doing and not picking up all
the obligations. I think especially
around the holidays. That's very
important. Like drive in your lane.
Don't try to swerve all over the place.
Stay with what you're responsible for.
And sometimes just that is so vital to
finding and recouping your own power.
>> It's such a clear message and I think
pretty much anybody could benefit. But I
want to get a sense of like when you
were writing it, was there a particular
audience that you had in mind that
you've observed really, you know, could
benefit from the insights that you
wanted to put down on paper?
>> Yeah, I think no offense to the men, but
I think it's particularly for women
because we're carers and we really do
take on I think even the emotional
well-being of everybody around us and we
want to care for people and sometimes we
can take on too much. And so for me,
even again going back to the car, being
able to use that simple analogy to help
women to walk in a way that's not
overwhelming. Like for example, when you
park your car at night, you turn the
lights off. You don't leave them
running. Like when do you park your life
and turn the lights off? Like when do
you refresh? When do you recharge? So
you're not constantly giving out. So I'm
hoping that that message will help women
who have a purpose on the planet and
need to be able to give that to the
world instead of just giving up. And
what are some of the sort of practical
tips that you might have for them to
really get started on this process?
>> Yeah, for me things like really being
clear on what I am meant to carry
helped. So that's number one. Like sit
down and just think about it. What am I
doing that I'm not maybe meant to be
doing
>> and just forget about what everybody
else thinks and stop doing those things.
Number two, finding peace and quiet.
Like really parking your car and turning
those lights off. I think it really
settles even our nervous system. For me,
I'm a strong believer and so I do prayer
and I read the Bible and if I have that
every day and then I take one day a week
when I'm purposefully more still, the
other six days go so much better. So
that's really something I think we've
gotten away from. But I believe it was a
way we're designed to be able to go for
the long haul with strength.
>> Now you're a pastor and leader in your
community with your husband. You've
started this nonprofit to help
disadvantaged and targeted women. And
now you're an author.
>> Yeah.
>> So, what's next for you?
>> Well, I'm actually working on another
book, so we'll hopefully see that in
2026. I travel and speak um to women and
women's conferences. I love doing that.
I'm also a grandmother of two, so they
are my favorite thing on the planet. So,
being with them a lot is my uh my goal
in life. Really, that's so beautiful.
and a really nice picture of a balanced
life where you can be striving for that
mission and that goal all within this
sense this uh cycle of recharging. Yeah.
>> And something that I think everybody
needs a kind of ally to help them take
that brave step into something new such
as a balanced life where you can
recharge but still go for your mission.
And it sounds like, you know, your book
is a really beautiful way for people to
carry that ally with them and learn
along the way together.
>> Josie Carnen, the book is Recharge.
Thank you so much for dropping by our
studio and happy holidays to you and all
of your people in your community and
your family.
>> Thank you. So lovely to be with you and
happy holidays to you, too. Thank you.