NEW Milwaukee Surge VS the Dewalt dcf870!

It's time to put the newly released Milwaukee Gen 2 Surge versus the DeWalt DCF-870, which one will claim to be the best quiet hydraulic impact driver on the market right now. DeWalt weighing in at 35 ounces, Milwaukee weighing in at 38.6. Overall, the lighting award is gonna have to go to DeWalt because it has just so much better lighting. Milwaukee isn't bad with tri-LEDs, but this is on another level. Milwaukee has three speeds, DeWalt only has two speeds. This is just a 20-minute work light mode, which is nice. It has great lights and you can use this as a flashlight legitimately. DeWalt is lighter and more comfortable and smoother to use if you ask me. Milwaukee, not bad. Certainly an improvement from the last generation. Another thing that DeWalt majorly has going for it is the battery tech. See, Milwaukee does have forged batteries like this one here. This is an 8, which means it's a tabless battery. They have only one battery that is a pouch lithium like this one. The only thing that's comparable to this 3.5 is the 3.0 high output, which is 21,700 cells, but they're not even tabless. Milwaukee, come on, you're falling behind on the battery game behind DeWalt and Flex. DeWalt now has three power stack batteries, which is pouch lithium and two different tabless batteries. Milwaukee only has the one pouch lithium style battery with the six amp hour forge, and then they have the eight amp hour forge, which is a tabless and a 12 amp hour forge, which is a tabless. So we need a smaller, better battery from Milwaukee. As far as performance goes, Milwaukee does seem to be quite a bit faster, but I think I enjoy using the DeWalt better still. It is still a little more compact, even though Milwaukee did make the new one a whole lot smaller than the old one. You can see that the DeWalt is a bit shorter. Let's see just how much shorter. 3.98 versus that 4.32. The very back of the DeWalt, 2.61, and the thicker spot at the front here, 2.6. The front's 2.45 inches, and at the back here, 2.28 inches. And then on the very back of the plate on the back of the housing here, 2.3. The new Milwaukee surge peaked at 92.3 decibels driving a six inch GRK. Looks like we might have an issue. The pilot is not wanting to release the bit here. There we go. The DeWalt peaked at 93.2 decibels driving that six inch GRK. DeWalt averaged 79.02 dB in speed one driving deck screws. A bit higher in speed two, 87.88. Our new surge averaged 79.2 in speed one, 84.9 in speed two. In speed three, we averaged 85.4 dB. Now time for the good old head to heads. Speed three on the Milwaukee, speed two on the DeWalt because it's all it has. That is just a light mode. These are some larger fasteners, and really this just kind of defeats the purpose of these hydraulic drivers. The DeWalt peaked at 100.5 dB while driving this 10 inch Timberlock. Again, Milwaukee not really wanting to let go of its bit right now. There we go. Milwaukee was just barely a little bit quieter than DeWalt at exactly 99 dB at its peak while driving the 10 inch Timberlock. In slow-mo, it's hard to tell, but I will say the DeWalt feels much smoother when using it. You can kind of see how it's swaying back and forth with the Milwaukee in just a little more vibration. You can kind of tell that difference when side by side. I'm going to try to drive these deck screws as slow as I possibly can to see how much control these drivers actually have in there. Seems to have plenty of control. As you can see, when going very slow, the DeWalt will do the opposite of what I was saying. It is jumping around like this when going really slow. I do think that the new Surge has more control than the DeWalt. I think with medium-sized fasteners, you're not trying to go super slow. The DeWalt feels better to me, but when trying to go super slow and controlled, Milwaukee is better. Between the DeWalt and the new Milwaukee Surge, I think it's actually a pretty tough call for me. DeWalt was quieter with the smaller fasteners in speed one, but Milwaukee was actually quieter in every other instance, I believe. The new Milwaukee Surge coming in at $200, and the DeWalt without any promos is $220. DeWalt has better lighting. I like to call it better. I think it feels better most of the time. The DeWalt also has the advantage of having much more compact and powerful power stack batteries, which I think pair with impact drivers better than anything Milwaukee has, including the 3.0 we were using today. I'm curious. Are you Team Ketchup? Are you Team Mustard? Let me know down below. I hope you enjoyed today's video, and y'all have a great day.