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>> Well guys, um I'm going to start off
with a little bit of a doozy here, so I
do apologize, but uh my wife and I have
just recently found out that her parents
are asking my wife's uh sisters that are
under 18 for money for basic bills. Um
we don't really know. You know, I've
heard in the past you guys say like
don't say anything unless they come to
you and ask for help or guidance. Um
we're just kind of stuck because um you
know, my sister-in-laws are 10, 12, and
then 17. Um so I'm just kind of we're
kind of confused on what to do.
>> How much money do they have?
>> Well, so my so the younger
sister-in-laws, they were, you know,
working over the summer. Um, so
basically what happened was is, you
know, uh, my sister, my 10-year-old
sister-in-law told us that, well, mom
and dad kept saying that we don't have
enough money for groceries this month
and blah blah blah. So, I offered him my
$400 that I got from dogsitting and they
took it for groceries. And then um our
or my 17-year-old sister-in-law came
over two weeks ago and said that they
had quote unquote borrowed $1,000 from
her for for bills for last month to
cover.
>> Is this true? Are they struggling that
bad?
>> I I I would I would say so. Yes. It's
been talked about. You know, a couple
months ago, my wife overheard that they
are like $10,000 short a month. He my
father-in-law owns his own business and
it's been I know it's been struggling
for quite a while.
>> So, I I I want to put things in order. I
have you hear us say on the all the
time, you can't help family unless they
come ask you.
>> But before that, I'm always going to
protect kids,
>> of course. And if you got a 10-year-old
that's coming to you saying, "Dad is
saying, I don't have enough money for
groceries. I need your dogsitting
money." Then I would I personally I
would insert myself into that situation.
>> Okay. Okay. And that's what we were
thinking because, you know, it's it's
really hard for me to have respect for
people like that that, you know, they
are in a situation where they rely on
everybody else to get them out of their
problems. They blame everybody else
except for themselves. Um, a lot of this
is self-caused just based off their
their career choices that they've had.
So, it's hard for me to have respect.
It's hard for my wife to have respect as
well. So,
>> how long have you how long have you been
worried?
>> Uh, it'll be two years in February.
Okay. Um,
yeah, I'm going to take back what I
said. I would have your wife call, not
you, but
>> Okay.
>> Go ahead.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. And um I I think she Yeah, because
here's the thing. If the two of you go
over there at two years into this and
insert yourself in this situation, you
are changing the trajectory of the next
40 years.
>> Of course. Yep.
>> It's not simply this situation. Um yes,
what you're describing is 100%
disgusting. I'm not questioning that at
all. Um, and if they were abusing the
children physically, we would just turn
them over to children's services,
>> right? Yeah, that's not happening.
>> Be that simple. Um, because we're just
not going to allow that to happen.
They're just abusing them financially.
And um, so I I think um but I don't
think your wife your wife's what, 20some
years old.
>> Yeah, she's uh she's 23.
>> Yeah. If she sits down with her mom and
dad and says, "Y'all need to stop this.
Sh to become responsible adults, my
guess is there's about a 0% chance that
that's going to have any impact
>> 110%.
>> And if you show up saying I don't
respect you guys, they're going to tell
you to get out of their house. That's
not going to help either.
>> Yeah, that's that's a 40 year that's a
40-year long discussion.
>> Um I'm trying to think, in other words,
what will work is more what I'm thinking
about.
>> What what Dave, tell me if I'm wrong.
So, my thought is when I when I say
insert myself into that, it would be
your wife calling mom and dad and
saying, "Can we talk?" Um, and she's got
to be careful because the backlash could
come down on a 10-year-old, right?
>> Yeah.
>> Um, but we just,
>> you know, and my Sorry, go
>> ahead. And and my idea at first was
like, you know, my wife, I told her, I
was like, "What if you like take your
mom out to coffee and be like, you know,
mom, we've heard some of this stuff
from, you know, my sisters. Like, how
bad is it?
>> Is it is it really is that really
happening? Are y'all really that bad?"
>> Yeah. And is is there is there ways we
can help? Or is there ways we can
support you or is there education? They
may say, "Absolutely not." And then it's
about giving your your niece or your
sister-in-law, if you will, a safe place
that she always knows she's loved
somewhere else, but that's just going to
she's going to have eight years of mom
and dad borrowing money.
>> Exactly. Exactly. And you know, that's
our fear because, you know, they're
setting the kids up for just a lifelong
>> Yeah. But but dude, you're 25. You're
24. I would stay out of that for right
now.
>> Yeah. That's not that's not
>> Okay.
>> That's actually not true either. It's a
it's a bad it's a bad on-ramp to life,
but it's not an on-ramp that can't be
corrected. A lot of us have bad
on-ramps.
>> Yeah.
>> Um and then we get the opportunity to
meet Jesus and change our life. Okay.
So,
>> uh and those kids have got the same
thing. They're not being physically
abused. So,
>> yeah. So, let me refer when I say insert
myself, I don't mean you flex and put on
a sleeveless shirt and go bang on the
door. I I think I think your wife
>> taking mom out for coffee, taking dad
out and saying, "Hey, we just happened
to hear this." H
>> I'm worried about y'all. How How bad
>> I'm worried about my sisters.
>> Yeah.
>> How bad is it?
>> Definitely.
>> And then y'all two have a hard
conversation about could you help, will
you help, and all that cuz the next
question is going to be, well, can we
have $500? Um and y'all already have
that predetermined discussion before she
heads into that.
>> No, go ahead. I'll give you the answer
to that. No, you're right. because
they're saying they're $10,000 short a
month.
>> So, I'm not throwing good money after
bad.
>> So, I we only give Ramse's only give
into situations where we create a
sustainable story.
>> We don't throw money at something $5 at
something that's a $100 problem. That's
not you're not creating a sustainable
story. Then you've got to fix the
problem. You got to get down under it.
And so that's going to involve maybe
what I would pay is for them to get with
a Ramsey coach. And the Ramsey coach
boxes her ears and says, "You have to
sell the three cars. You guys, you
cannot afford these stupid cars. You
can't afford to live in that house. Oh,
maybe you need to get a job cuz your
life your your business is not a
business. It loses money. It's called a
hobby." And so, no, we're going to have
to, you know, the these types of things
are going on under the scene because if
they're $10,000 short, the $1,000 from
the 17-year-old or the $400 from the
10-year-old doesn't fix it, nor does
$500 from you fix it. So, don't do that.
But do say, "I'll I'll I'll cheer you
on. I'll help you do a budget. I'll
connect you with some people and pay for
it for you to get some coaching to get
yourself out of this. You've struggled
with this your whole life. I've watched
you. I'm your daughter. And, you know,
I'd love for you to be free from these
demons." And you and I have talked about
this before on the air, but parents
don't like hearing money advice. So, if
she sits down and says, "Y'all need to
start," that's not going to go well. But
that idea of sitting down and saying,
"Hey, I'm worried about you. How bad is
it? Are y'all okay?" Um, we are and then
tell them your story.
>> That's a different avenue.
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