Nancy Mace on Protecting Women, Schools and Epstein Accountability | The Brief | PragerU

I want people to go to jail. I want victims to know in this country if you are assaulted, you are abused that you will get justice. I don't care how powerful somebody is. No one's above the law. I will sign any bill that bans porn that bans any of this nonsense in schools. We can't be talking about these nasty sexual things with kids that are in elementary school. It is going to take years for us to unwind all the damage to our nearest, dearest, most important institutions in this country. And welcome back to the brief insights from the inside. We are joined today by Congresswoman Nancy Mace. Congresswoman Mace represents South Carolina's first congressional district and she is the first female Republican elected from the state of South Carolina to Congress. Congresswoman, thank you so much for joining us today. We appreciate it >> and thank you for having me as always. >> Speaker Johnson recently expressed his optimism in building on the momentum of the big beautiful bill cottifying some of President Trump's uh executive orders. Can you give us some update as to the House GOP moving on some of those issues even amidst the government shutdown? >> Well, if we could only get past the government shutdown. We haven't been in session the last couple weeks. Uh you can file bills right now as the government is shut down, but we aren't voting on them. Uh there's not a lot of committee work going on. But I agree with Speaker Johnson. We do need to codify as many of President Trump's executive orders as physically humanly possible. We have a once- ina-lifetime opportunity here before us while we have the White House, while we have the Senate, while we have the US House, we have both chambers of Congress in order to really change the direction of our country. And Trump has shown us that the bold leadership, the strength and toughness that he has, that the man is literally unstoppable. and I don't know that we're going to have this opportunity anytime soon again. >> And you've been pretty vocal on the no kings rally that we saw just a few days ago, this bizarre cacophony of political grievances. I'm curious how the Republican party moving into the midterms is planning on responding to this solidification on the left um and how they want to be this new resistance. What is the Republican message moving into the midterms? >> Well, the new resistance is the same as the old resistance and it's gone nowhere. Um the irony of the no king's protest on Saturday is that this is literally the political party that installed their presidential nominee. Literally they were nominating a king or in this case queen. Um you know it's just so the irony and the hypocrisy I don't think is lost on anyone. And you they've talked for years about how Republicans were a threat to democracy. Well actually every accusation was a projection. They've been the ones that have threatened democracy. They're the ones that are violently trying to pick us off and kill us and threaten us. Um, you know, to make sure that our conservative voices aren't heard. Why why it's so important, Shabas, to for the work that you're doing um here and around the world to make sure that our conservative voices have a platform. >> Well, I'm glad you mentioned Queen because when people think of Nancy Mace, they're probably thinking of two words and that's women's rights. who've probably been the most vocal uh champion of women's rights in the halls of Congress. The Center for Heterodox Social Sciences as well as the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression. They put out a survey a few weeks ago and it showed that the percentage of young Americans who identify as transgender as non-binary has essentially fallen off a cliff. We're talking uh percentages down more than 50%. I think this in some ways vindicates what you had been saying for a while, which is transgenderism is not a medical or a scientific issue. it's more cultural or social. I'm curious your reaction uh to those statistics that we've seen recently. >> Well, it's a trend on Tik Tok and social media as we've seen, but the louder that opposing voices have really told these people that this isn't real, this is not science, this is not biology, get rid of the pronouns, stop wearing a dress if you're a guy. Um, we've seen that when reality hits them in the face, that they get it and they're not playing that game anymore. It was just a trend. It's always been a trend and that people have woken up to it because we as conservatives and turfs too because there are some Democrat women that are rapidly against it as well. Not just conservatives, but everybody working together to get the truth out there that people are finally they finally caught on and they're like, "Hey, I'm not going to be groomed anymore. I'm not going to do this nonsense and neither is my kid." And that's that's a great thing for America. So given that you were sort of speaking about this before it was cool, do you think there were lawmakers perhaps on both sides of the aisle who knew it was wrong but for social or political pressure didn't say anything? And on the flip side, do you think now with the re-election of President Trump, lawmakers are now able to speak what they knew to be true the whole time? >> Well, even many of them still aren't speaking out about it. I mean, I'm in bright red South Carolina. It's as red as this stapler. Okay, that's how red my state is supposed to be. But we had state and federally funded colleges and universities that had 15 genders on forms on their college websites and male and female were not two of the options where one of my universities here in South Carolina was promoting crossdressing on the college website. What are you even talking about? Then we're talking about policies that allow biological men and women's dormitories, bathrooms, locker rooms, showers. And this has been going on in bright red, South Carolina. We have DEI running rampant in the state government. And so when you look at it, it's I I sort of shake my head and I think to myself, where have y'all been the last 10 or 20 years? How have we as a Republican state allowed this sort of nonsense to go on and then just sit there and act like it's it doesn't exist when it does? And so it's it's my job I see as the next governor of South Carolina to burn the system to the ground and just say no more. I had someone send me a a text message today and it was with a a very well-known hospital here in South Carolina and the medical practitioner was using pronouns in their email making an appointment with their patient. I got to tell you, pronouns have nothing to do with science. They have nothing to do with diagnosing your medical problem. Uh I want these I want this thing to stop. I called the administrator of the hospital within 5 minutes and they picked up the phone and I told them I'm being nice right now, but if you don't resolve this in very short order, I will embarrass you because that's what it's going to take with some of these people. You have to shame them and embarrass them until they do the right thing. And I don't I don't understand it quite frankly. >> Yeah. Unfortunately, I think you're absolutely right. Let me just play devil's advocate for a moment. How would you respond to critics who say that protecting sex segregated spaces is discriminatory against transgender individuals in the United States? >> Well, I mean, use the bathroom you were born with, right? And and if you want to get really technical about it, have your own bathroom. I mean, at this point, um, have your own sports team. But a men cannot become women. And women, you know, we didn't get the right to vote until what, 1919, 1920, just over a hundred years ago. And you know, we have achievements that we've done on our own. And we're not going to allow some mentally ill man almost always from the left side of the aisle put on a skirt or put on a dress and say, "I'm you now." Absolutely not. It's it's grooming. And apparently there's like a sexual thing with it, autogophilia, where these people have a sexual attraction to themselves or to other men that are dressed as women. It's really sick stuff. And you wonder why we don't have a mental c mental health counselor in every school in America because this thing is, you know, we can't be celebrating this. And my kids came up through public school again in Red State, South Carolina, but hearing about glitter parties for the kids that came out in middle school. Like you're talking about an 11year-old in sixth grade. What a a glitter party that mom and dad may not be aware of. Like I just I don't understand it. And we're we're um promote we're not promoting. We're exposing an event again in South Carolina this weekend and it is for QTS. Not like your kid is cute. It is QT as a like queer trans whatever. I don't know what queer means. Okay, I got to be honest with you. I still don't know what queer means and I'm 47 years old. But they have like these these these this group called the period pixies and they show up and they table and they have they have like bloodied looking tablecloths and they have tampon fairies or they're going to make tampon art this weekend and they're going to have drag queens do a drag show to 12 year olds. Like you're you can be 10 and show up to this drag show this weekend and you don't need an adult if your 13-year-old brother or sister brings you like that. I just it's um I don't know what's I don't know what's happening, but I what I do know is that as a god-fearing American, as a as a as a conservative, as a mom, that we have to make sure that we don't allow this to continue, that we get in their faces and we say no more. It is going to take years for us to unwind all the damage that Democrats have done to our nearest dearest most important institutions in this country. >> So, I'm glad you mentioned schools because parents are rightfully concerned about the gender ideology and queer ideology seeping into the public school system as well. What role does the federal government and or the state government, if and when you become the next governor of South Carolina, have in ensuring that gender ideology, queer theory is not seeping into the school system? >> Well, I will sign any bill that bans pronouns, that bans porn, uh that bans any of this nonsense in schools. And if you're going to teach sexed, the parents must approve of the sex education. And you know, if you're a good mom and dad, like most of us are, you're going to have those conversations with your kid. Um, we can't be talking about these nasty sexual things with kids that are in elementary school. These kids, like I I, you know, I got a little bit of libertarian in me, so like, you know, I don't want the government telling us who to love or who to marry and I don't want them in your boardroom or your bedroom and that kind of thing. But that means it doesn't creep into your schools. We should not be indoctrinating children, vulnerable kids with this sort of thing. And when we have events that kids go to, I mean, I want to ban drag shows to children. Like, we don't have that kind of ban in South Carolina. You can go to our South Carolina school libraries and public libraries today, and you can find cartoon books of how to have sex, like young people doing sexual acts. And these things are available to children. And that's I mean if it's happening here, it's happening everywhere. But I gotta tell you right now, you put a bill on my desk. I am signing it into law. Uh we are not I'm not going to tolerate it. And quite frankly, as governor, I I will go to libraries and I'll rent the books out myself. I'll go to b I'll go to bond hearings to make sure pedophiles don't get out of jail. Like I am so uh vehemently posed to the disintegration of our values and a as both as Christians but as Jews too because our faith has kept communities together. Our faith has kept civil civilization strong, our faith in God. Um and the left is trying to take that away from all of us. And that's what this that's what they're taking God out of everything, taking God out of the community, God out of our lives has done to our communities and look how it's ruined portions of of our country. >> Well said. And Congresswoman, you're unique for so many reasons. One of them being what you were just articulating, the protection not just of women, but but of kids, of young people. In fact, you have bucked your own party and you're one of the very few Republicans to vote with Democrats on releasing the Epstein files. So, if I can hear from you specifically and can our audience hear from you specifically, what do you want the Department of Justice or or the House GOP to be doing as it pertains to the Epstein files as it pertains to the victims of Jeffrey Epstein? >> I want people to go to jail. I want victims to know in this country if you are assaulted, if you are abused, um if someone has done great harm and broken the law in doing so, that you will get justice. And by getting justice, that means that people have to go to jail. And you know, some people want to deny there's a list. We know that as victims that that that have come forward, there are over 20 people who have been identified as potentially child rapists or potentially pedophiles or potentially sexual abusers. That those people exist. Some of them are very powerful people. And you know, I don't even care. Like I've said this publicly and King Charles doesn't like what I've said about this. He said he was stated so personally and publicly, but Prince Andrew and now I guess he's not not no longer a prince, but Andrew >> um should go to jail if what is alleged happened happened. And I know he's denying it, but he he's been named. And I don't care how powerful somebody is, as the left says, no one's above the law. And so prove it, show it. And um so I want Congress to do the work to show uh who should be investigated, who should be prosecuted, and who should go to jail. I want to name names. And one of the reasons I'm so passionate about this, I have met with the Epstein victims. I do a lot of victims advocacy because I myself am a survivor of both domestic abuse and sexual assault. And I've seen how broken the system is. When I came forward two years ago, I was told that it wouldn't be investigated. Even though I had evidence, even though I had photos, even though I had metadata, I as a powerful member of Congress was said was told, "Oh, well, shrug." And if that's happening to me, then that's happening to everybody that's coming forward just about is very hard to get justice. And so for me, this is let's show the world that if you do bad things, we are absolutely going to hold you accountable regardless of how much money you have or how much power you wield. And you know, I don't always buy in the conspiracy theory of things, but even if this did jeopardize certain relations with certain countries, we know that our foreign adversaries, they're doing honeypot operations all the time. I'm sure. I bet we're doing it, too. Um, but that doesn't excuse the fact that this goes on, that underage women were abused, and that people who did it, who harmed them should go to jail, period. I believe that. And the Epstein victims I have met with have exonerated Donald Trump. They have said he had nothing to do with it and uh want to be able to meet him personally and exonerate him from the White House is what they want more than anything. But they also want their abusers to go to jail. >> Let me just ask one last question. You've been extraordinary generous with your time. So we appreciate it. When it comes to protecting women, when it comes to protecting young people, you're not only um a victim of sexual violence, but you're an advocate for those people as well. You've been a co-sponsor for the Protecting Women and Girls in Sports Act. Why is this issue when when you take all the issues affecting our country from the economy, healthcare, foreign policy, why does this issue particularly speak to you so much? >> Well, I think our personal experiences define how we view the world and how we uh take up certain challenges or certain causes and I have been destroyed in many ways by the experiences that I've had particularly two years ago. uh absolutely just admonished uh po uh post-traumatic stress disorder, anxiety, uh all those things that come with it. But in that pain, I have found purpose and it has renewed my faith in God, has renewed my faith in Jesus Christ. Um it has made me a better person as tough as it has been and taking what I have been through and applying it so that everybody can get the same kind of benefit. I think that sometimes our faith I don't know that I'll ever be healed from what I have been through. I don't know that I'll ever uh be healed from it physically, spiritually, emotionally. But I what I do know is that by sharing my story, by working on the legislation, by fighting for women and girls, fighting for victims everywhere that it's given me purpose and that uh with so many flaws that I have, I am such an imperfect vessel for his word um for God's faith. But I am the perfect messenger because of everything that I've been through and how honestly I can talk about it and talk about the truth. Uh it's helped so many people and it's given me a great purpose in life and renewed my faith. And I think that's something that we're seeing a bit of a revival in and post Charlie Kirk >> era, but we're seeing it, I think, across the spectrum, both in the Jewish faith and the Christian faith. Um, it's very important that we get back to that and that guides us and gives us purpose, but guides us in our job, in our work, and how we raise our children, um, and how we uh articulate or or associate with other people, how we dress, um, how we forgive other people, but also how we get justice because that's important. Book of Romans, baby. Justice. >> Wow. I I totally lied. I said I have one last question. Really? One last question. You're so effective in Congress. Why run for governor? >> Well, it's because I've been so effective in Congress. We've accomplished so much. We've had so much success. Um from from the cost of living and inflation and taxes that we've addressed issues uh to illegal immigration to infrastructure. I want to take what I've learned in Congress and apply it to the state of South Carolina. I want to take the America first agenda that Donald Trump has put out and make it statewide in South Carolina. We have sanctuary sheriffs. We have woke ideology. We have DEI. We have criminals walking the streets. As Donald Trump is a law and order president, I will be the law and order governor. I'll be Trump in high heels, making my state, my home state, bigger and better and more competitive than ever. We're going to be we're going to do what Donald Trump did at the South Carolina state level. And I can't wait. Well, Congresswoman, we appreciate your time and on behalf of millions of Gen Z, of women, of young people, thank you for being our advocate. We look forward to connecting with you again in the future. >> You are the future. Thank you.