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We had the best time doing the initial
breakdown of the body language and
behavior in this video, and we decided
we'd revisit some of our favorite
moments from it.
>> Sorry, I'm the DA. I was going 55 coming
home from work.
>> 55 and a 35.
>> I don't really care.
>> Okay.
>> So, you can call
>> Can you come? Can you please come over
here? You're on a This is on a traffic
stop, ma'am.
>> Yes, it is. You can call Dennis Cole
Meer right now.
>> Okay. I'm telling you why I stopped you.
You didn't stop at all. Did you not hear
my lights or sirens or anything?
>> No, I didn't. Actually, I was on the
phone.
>> Okay. Well, you're not supposed to be on
the phone while you're driving either.
>> Yes, I am. With the handsfree.
Absolutely.
>> Okay. Why are you so upset at me? I'm
doing my job. You You just admitted to
me that you were going 55 and a 35 on
Phillips Road to leave me alone.
>> It's officer Chris Foley.
>> Chris,
>> can you stay over here, ma'am? You're
This is a traffic This is This is a
legal traffic stop. Do you have your ID?
>> No, it's in my purse here.
>> You have your purse right there? No,
this is my lunch. Would you talk to your
talk to Dennis? This is ridiculous. Just
go away.
>> Hello, sir.
>> Good. Ma'am, can you please stay at the
back? This is a Ma'am, this is legal
traffic stop. Can you please stay over
here?
>> No. Hey, baby. Get your little guy out
of here.
>> Sir, I stopped her for going 55 and a 35
on Phillips Road.
>> Phips Road.
>> And she failed to stop. She drove all
the way back home and parked in her
garage. And now she's not she's not
complying with any of my commands.
Ma'am, do not go inside.
>> Oh my god.
>> All right, Greg, what do you got?
>> So, she starts off her very first
defense is going to be a rational actor
and she's going to be, "Look, I I I'm
the DA." She's going to be very calm.
Watch her. She goes and she uses
exaggerated vowels as she says, "I don't
care." Real long drawn out.
>> I don't really care.
>> And she kind of strikes that pose,
whatever she's doing with her right hand
there. She looks like John Travolta from
Saturday Night Fever or something.
Throwing her hand up as she says it
like, "Get out of here." She's got
demonstrative body language. The whole
thing she's doing here is saying, "I am
the DA.
>> I'm the DA."
>> Not that that matters. This guy's doing
his job. And so she gets more and more
defiant with him as he goes. She's got
these eyes that open wide in defiance.
Then she goes, "No, I didn't.
>> Did you not hear my lights or sirens or
anything?"
>> I didn't actually. I was on the phone.
>> Well, then how can you tell me that you
knew you were going 55 when he first
pulled you over? I was going 55 coming
on from work.
>> Clearly the two things won't mesh. If
you're saying look I am I was doing 55
then you know when the lights came on
you know when he was pulling over. As
she comes outside she has the phone as a
barrier and she does something I call
egg protector or we call the fig leaf
what men do when they cross primary sex
organs. Women cross your uterus when
your arm and ovaries and that's a that's
a protection. That's a barrier. And then
she does the eye roll and breaks eye
contact and annoyance. Whatever he's
saying doesn't matter. I she should have
just held up her hand and said, "Just be
quiet." Cuz that's what she just did
with her body language. She's gripping
that barrier and then she goes back into
the car. Here's a piece of advice for
you. If you get pulled over, don't go
back in the car and dig in a bag. Unless
you want to be tased or worse, that's a
real opportunity for that cop to take
this out on her. Let us say this about
things. When we're talking about
anything we see in body language, we're
using our life of experience. Whether
that's in the interrogation room,
interviewing people in corporate
America, interacting with thousands and
thousands of people and then applying
our life experience over it. So each of
us may have minor differences in what we
see and you may have minor differences.
If you had more experience, for example,
a police officer will see something
different than a an average person. So
it's an important part of what we do.
And even in my system of read, review,
evaluate, analyze, and decide. I always
say you'll come up with a different
solution based on context that you may
understand. I don't. Chase, what do you
got?
Yeah, I agree. I totally agree. And
there's no uh shaking in her hands that
I would I might expect to see. No
indication that she's even remotely
worried about being stopped, which seems
to indicate she's extremely confident in
two things.
She didn't do anything wrong. Or number
two, she is so important that the law
doesn't apply to her and this is not a
big deal. So either way, this is very
revealing of some character here. She's
hesitant to step out of the garage. You
can see her looking left and right.
She's hyper aware of the potential for
the neighbors to be watching what's
going on at this point. And when people
are in situations where they feel
superior and they feel that the person
they're talking to has nothing to offer
them, that's when true character comes
out. When somebody's talking to a
waiter, for example, you can see how
they treat a waiter when they think
nobody's looking. How someone treats a
waiter who they might see as not
directly beneficial to their personal
goals can be very telling. Do they show
respect and kindness or do they dismiss
and belittle? This behavior is a
powerful indicator of the true nature
because it's free from the usual filters
that we apply when we think that we have
something to gain. And I think it's
these unguarded moments that show us
whether or not a person practices
respect and empathy as a core value or
as just tools to be used when they're
beneficial. So as of now, I'm seeing
some things that would make me think I
would not want to be near this person in
real life. Scott, what do you got?
>> I agree with everything you said and um
what we're seeing is this is the
behavior of a giant baby. a giant baby.
That's a narcissist. And I'll show you
why. Because we see everything a baby
does, a little child, we're gonna see
her do. Everything from stomping to
cussing to getting real loud, trying to
get her way, not listening to anything,
trying to overtake the conversation. I'm
the one in charge. She thinks her
attitude is, I know all because I am
all. That's what babies are. That's what
that's what a giant baby narcissist
would do. That's how they would see the
world. And when she says when he says
you're going 55 and a 35, she says, "I
don't care."
>> 55 and a 35.
>> I don't really care.
>> She's the district district attorney. If
you get a ticket over there and you have
to go talk about it, that's who you go
see. That's who prosecutes your your
ticket. She's the one that, in other
words, that gets after you and says,
"Okay, here's what happen.
>> Do what? I know. All I know,
>> but Oh, yeah. And Oh, yeah. She sure
does. And she should know that. So we
can't get we can't give her a pass on
this. We can't let that go. Her go-to is
I'm calling Dennis Colemire right now.
>> This is on a traffic stop, ma'am.
>> Yes, it is. You can call Dennis Colemire
right now.
>> And that's is that's their chief of
police there.
>> It's Dennis Colemire apparently. So
she's on the she's calling the chief of
she's put herself in above everybody. So
much so with the the chief of police
that she's going to call him and get
this taken care of. And then she gives
him the phone, says, and in other words,
here's your boss now. Go away, you know,
talk to him. Was trying to get, you
know, like I'm I'm too good to talk to
you. You're out there first responding
to anything that happens. If somebody
come to her house and was shooting and
setting it on fire, whatever, he's going
to show up and try to stop that and
catch the person doing it, right? And
she's treating him like that. I don't
like this woman. And the least, I'm
going to go ahead and say it. I'm I may
be a little bit biased on this, but when
you start treating the police officers
like that, the people that would die for
you literally, they do it every day. No,
not I'm not I'm not into it. She goes in
the house and what does she take in the
house? She takes her little lunch bag in
the house and then makes a big a big
deal and oh god, she goes in there and
says that
>> ma'am, do not go inside.
>> Oh my god.
>> Makes me wonder what's in the bag. If
there's anything in the bag that she
shouldn't have that she's trying to
hide. So, let me throw that out there.
in case you guys decide to look into
that.
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I wonder what was in what was in that
bag. Think about that a little bit.
She's heard a thousand times somebody
say, "I didn't hear the the lights and
siren when a cop was following him." And
that's their excuse. Really? And you
know, she'd said, "You got to be kidding
me. That's a police car. We know you saw
it because everybody sees a police car
when the sirens go off. You heard it.
You saw it. You can't help but see it."
So, no, I'm I'm I'm not into her. A
giant baby narcissist. No, I This gets
on my last nerve. Mark, what do you got?
>> Yeah. Let's see what I got here. Uh,
look, there's a reason that you have a
35 um uh kilometer. I guess it's
kilometers or it's miles in the US. I
can't miles.
>> Okay. 35 mph uh limit. It's usually
because there's a builtup area there
which means there's pedestrians likely
and usually little kids, you know, and
you're trying to stop people uh moving
so fast they won't be able to break in
time if a kid runs out into the road or
somebody walks out into the road. It's
it's a social convention. It's kind of
less of a law though it is the law. It's
more about a social convention. And what
that's trying to do is is save other
people's lives. So saying like I don't
care.
>> I don't really care.
>> That means you don't care about other
people's lives. Essentially, you don't
care about that 20 m an hour more that
that is designed to stop other people
being killed. It's not trying to curtail
your liberty in any way. It's trying to
save other people. It's a social
convention. And some social conventions
you have, if you're part of society, you
have to join in with understanding. It's
not trying to limit me. It's trying to
help other people. I'm not just me on my
own. I'm a part of society. I'm a part
of a group. Unless you don't think
you're part of society and you don't
think a part you're part of a group and
that would be antisocial. And let's come
to that in a moment because we've got
somebody uncompliant. I rate maybe
irrational uh potentially completely
unreasonable here. Now, why is that? It
could be emotion. Could be emotion. And
if it is emotion that's most likely to
change or wear off over about 10 minutes
because it's heightened emotion. It
can't sustain for very very long. The
person isn't used to having that level
of uncompliance or rationality or
unreasonleness. So it it'll transform
into somebody else or it'll something
else or it'll wear off. Let's see if
that happens. Could be drugs or alcohol
that can do the same thing to people. We
can check out whether it's any of that.
It could be what we call an effective
disorder, which means it's kind of like
an emotion, but it's with them forever.
Or it could be a mood. So a mood would
come before effective disorder. They're
in a bit of a mood at the moment, though
quite irrational for a level of mood.
Could be effective disorder, though,
which means it's could be lasting for
months or years at a time. Or it could
be, as you're suggesting there, Scott, a
personality disorder. uh and and from
what I'm seeing in terms of uh not
agreeing with the usual moves of
society, an antisocial personality
disorder. Um to which narcissism would
actually fit in with as as I understand
it. So, you know, could be a fair a very
fair comment there, Scott, from what I
see. Now, here's what I see in the body
language. We get this lip retraction
here and pressed together just before
she brings the phone to her mouth.
That's anger for sure. In my book,
that's an literally in some of my books,
that's an that's anger. And I think over
time, we're going to see some of the
other indicators of that. So, Greg, I
think to your point that she is, you
know, to some to some extent kind of put
together at the moment, though still
irrational and uncompliant. She's kind
of put together. We're starting to see
the emotion start to creep out. How much
will it escalate during this? That's
going to be uh interesting. But
certainly something really quite
antisocial going on here, which which is
interesting for somebody who has a job
which is a social job. The DA is part of
an important part of society. So this
could be this could get quite ironic. I
can see.
>> Sorry, I'm the DA. I was going 55 coming
home from work.
>> 55 and a 35.
>> I don't really care.
>> Okay. So, you can call
>> Can you come? Can you please come over
here? You're on a This is on a traffic
stop, ma'am.
>> Yes, it is. You can call Dennis Cole
Meyer right now.
>> Okay. I'm telling you why I stopped you.
You didn't stop at all. Did you not hear
my lights or sirens or anything?
>> No, I didn't. Actually, I was on the
phone.
>> Okay. Well, you're not supposed to be on
the phone while you're driving either.
>> Yes, I am. With the handsfree.
Absolutely.
>> Okay. Why are you so upset at me? I'm
doing my job. You You just admitted to
me that you were going 55 and 35 on Phil
to leave me alone.
It's
>> officer Christopher Foley.
>> Christopher Foley,
>> can you stay over here, ma'am? Your This
is a traffic This is This is a legal
traffic stop. Do you have your ID?
>> No, it's in my purse. Here.
>> You have your purse right there?
>> No. This is my lunch. Would you talk to
your talk to Dennis? This is ridiculous.
Just go away.
>> Hello, sir.
>> Good. Ma'am, can you please stay at the
back? This is a Ma'am, this is legal
traffic stop. Can you please stay over
here?
>> No. Hey, baby. Get your little guy out
of here.
>> Sir, I stopped her for going 55 and a 35
on Phillips Road.
>> On Phillips Road.
>> And she failed to stop. She drove all
the way back home and parked in her
garage.
>> And now she's not she's not complying
with any of my commands. Ma'am, do not
go inside.
>> Oh my god.
>> Sorry.
>> No, he's he's going to it's in my other
bag.
>> Oh, okay.
>> It's uh he's grabbing it now.
>> Okay. How long have you been working for
the Salvation Army?
>> Sorry. How long have you been working up
duty for the Salvation Army?
>> Uh
uh I'm I'm here almost every other week.
>> Every other week.
>> Yeah. Uh and then I also work down at
the KRM.
>> Okay. And what's your full name?
>> Mezzi Scalleta. M E Z Y.
>> S A L E T.
>> Your first name is Mezzi.
>> M E Z Y. Correct.
>> Hey man. Yeah. The It's going to be the
green bag. It And it's got the my wallet
with the credentials and everything
inside it. In the No. Uh in the
upstairs. Upstairs.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My bad. My apologies.
Thank you.
>> Serge, can you stay over here?
>> Yeah.
>> Please. All right. I'll see you in a
minute.
>> Is it a loaded firearm that you have
with you, Mr. Scalleta?
>> Correct.
>> Okay. Can you put your hands on the car,
please?
Not familiar with the retention of this
holster. Just keep your hands over
there.
>> Can we not do this in front of every I
mean really?
>> You're doing just fine. Keep your hands.
>> No, man.
>> Can I contact my PA as soon as y'all are
>> Do you have any other firearms on you,
sir?
>> No, sir.
>> Okay. Here's what you do.
>> So So you're not under arrest right now?
No, but you're being detained. Okay.
So
>> his credentials.
>> Okay.
>> In the front.
>> What agency did you say you were with?
>> Edmonds.
>> You're with Edmonds.
>> Edmonds. Yes.
>> Okay. Okay.
>> You understand being entertainer?
>> I I I understand the whole process. Yes,
I did.
>> Okay.
>> All right. Greg, what do you got?
>> Yeah. Here's one rule for you. If you're
going to impersonate somebody, stay away
from the people you're impersonating
because they'll have jargon and tools
and language you don't. You guys, and
even those of you who have interrogated,
if I dropped you in a GIF, a joint
interrogation facility, and you're not
an intelligence interrogator, you'll get
you'll get exposed as pretending because
you know how interrogation works, but
you know how that interrogation works.
You don't know that cycle. You don't
know that language, and you would feel
out of place. Well, you don't usually go
hang around those people. Anybody, I
don't care what it is you do. If you're
a nurse, when you watch a show about
nurses, you're like, "Yeah, this is BS.
This is not how it works." None of us
ever work well there. If you think about
the Seir thing, when I can tell who's
been through Seir and who worked there
based on the language they use, how they
felt versus how what we know is going
on. And there's a reason that people get
busted for stolen valor every day. Those
stolen Valor people are too stupid to
stay away from people who recognize
them. So, they'll have like combat
patches on the wrong shoulder. They'll
have all kinds of stuff that's weird and
things that they'll say, "I was in fifth
group and point to the wrong shoulder."
They'll have tabs over tabs over tabs,
things that don't make any sense, but
any of us can read through it. So, it's
just really important when you're
dealing with these kind of people that
if you're going to pretend to be one of
them, you do a whole lot of homework.
And you can't do enough homework to to
usually shake it out. So, the first
indicator for me the guy has no idea
what he is doing is what does he say
when he doesn't understand?
>> Sorry. Sorry.
>> Sorry. Cops talk a specific way and you
might find a cop who says sorry. But
most of the time they're going to say
something like say again or could you
repeat that. As army guys, we don't say
we never say repeat because that means
shoot to the same place over and over
and over. So we say say again, but
there's always a simple jargon, a way of
carriage and the way these people move
and all that. He's probably heard some
of that whether he's at a bar, at the
diner or somewhere and overheard cops
and picked some of it up or done some
research, but I've never seen a guy go
sorry. Um, I love the one of the things
I always say to people, if you're
really, really stressed, learn from
horses. Horses go and blow out air when
they're feeling stressed. He does a
horse stress relief.
>> How long have you been working updating
for the Salvation Army?
>> Uh, I love it. It's funny to watch. And,
you know, there's so much in here. I
could go on and on and on. There's so
much garbage in here in so many places.
It looks like a caricature of a cop that
these guys are all over him. And then
when the cop ask him, "Are, do you have
any other firearms?"
>> Do you have any other firearms on you,
sir?
>> No, sir.
>> Okay. How many cops do you know who
would say no?
Just not the way they mostly work.
Scott, I know you know a lot of cops.
What would your friends say if you said
do you have any other firearms?
>> Yeah. Say yeah. Got it. Yeah. But right
there trying Yeah. trying to find it on
them. That's usually the next game that
goes on their backup. So
>> So what do you got?
>> All right. Uh like you were just saying
the inab his what's missing from this is
his inability to match the ver
vernacular that's going on there. He's
not talking like it. It sounds odd. If
you've hung around a bunch of them, you
know it sounds even just hanging out
with him. It sounds weird. You would be
like you watching, you could spot this
and say, "This guy had a cop."
>> It's It's weirder than that. And his
inability to remain calm as well. It's
This is going to be a great lesson in
comparing a real cop to a fake cop
because the way cops stand, the way they
carry themselves and and their demeanor
as they're dealing with whatever it is
they're dealing with. Because this guy
is looks like he's gacked out of his
brain because he can't stand still. He's
moving around, shaking, pointing, huge
illustrators where normally you just
stand there. And if he was actually a
cop, he would just be standing there
talking to him. He's not saying, "Do you
know so and so?" Trying to find out what
precinct that they're they're from.
Where you where you out of are you?
Which precinct? So you'd find out what
precinct. Oh, you know so and so. or I
used to when I got out of the academy
this or when I first started working
here that you'd know somebody all these
guys know if they don't know somebody
there they'll know somebody they'll know
who that person is at least one at least
one so they'll be able to say no but I
know you know you know ball and they'll
go I don't know him but one time he did
this there's always a story that goes
with those things as well so he doesn't
know anybody on the police department
that he can connect with and say hey I
know this person do you know that person
and his uniform is wrong. It's black.
And if you'll look at the comparison
when you when when they're standing
together, you'll see how big a
difference that is. There's a specific
color for those uniforms. They vary from
department to department, but you can
see it's dramatically different with
this one. And the pants are different as
well. I think he's got on gray pants,
you know. So, and depending on the
situation, you're not going to see a
police officer that's doing what he's
doing wearing gray pants like that, you
know. So, that that that's another one
you can see. That's that's it's not
right. It just doesn't look right.
Another thing that's missing, he doesn't
have a taser either. He doesn't have a
non-lethal weapon he can use. All the
other cops you're going to see, they've
all got one. He doesn't have one. And
then when he says, "You understand
you're being detained." He said, "I I I
understand the whole process." Yes, I
do.
>> There's no need to say that. The guy
would say, "You understand you're being
detained, right?" And he go, "Yeah, that
would be it." But that's not what we're
seeing. He's the he's not accepting the
um what's happening to him. he's not
accepting it the way a normal police
officer would would once he realizes
what's going on is a mistake and he
would just calm down and go, "Okay,
let's we can hang out." And then he
would talk to him while they were going
through the following protocol of
arresting him or, you know, detaining
him. So that all that looks iffy. You
can feel it when you see it. And that's
why because there's a lot of things that
aren't going on there that should be and
a lot of things that are going on that
shouldn't be. Mark, what do you got?
>> Yeah. So this is interesting for me in
terms of what does what does the brain
need to see in order to feel like it's
getting the real thing. And that's why I
don't know what the laws are in the US,
but certainly the laws for IPO
impersonating a police officer are
pretty strict in the UK. In fact, you're
not even allowed to carry a uniform.
Just having one in your in your hand is
like that. You're not allowed to do
that. carrying with intent of
impersonating a police officer is a is a
whole other level as well. Wearing the
uniform. Now, why might that be? Because
I never told anybody I was a I never
said I'm a police officer. I'm just
wearing the uniform. Well, it's the
minimal specifications for most people,
especially the public to go, well,
you're a police officer and therefore
you have power of some sort. I mean,
it's interesting from a psychological
point of view. What kind of power is
this person trying to get? What power
don't they have, you know, in their
everyday life? What power are they
looking to have that they can't get any
other way than placing this police
uniform on? Now, in order to uh let's
say con another police officer, what
you'd need is the minimum
specifications, the minspec for what
that other officer needs to see or hear
to quickly make a decision. You're the
real thing. And then you deliver that
and then you'd get the hell out. Okay?
because you can't you can't be around
for very very long because you're going
to have to give more specifications and
more specifications and more
specifications. But he doesn't even have
the minimal specifications for this
already. This officer likely because of
the questioning that we're hearing is
likely going, "Yeah, you haven't given
me any min minimal specifications for
you are who you're presenting yourself
as." By the way, Greg, I love the the
horse exhale.
That's at a Jim Carrey level. So, he's
already at a Jim Kerry level of
performance here. And then we've got
this this blinking that goes on and then
a big long eye closed when he's talking
about his first name being Mezzi. M Z Y
>> Mezi Scalleta Mezz Y.
>> The officer going, "You what?
>> Your first name is Messi?"
>> So, there's already something wrong with
the name around here. already something
kind of almost pseudonym going on here.
He's got a name that probably isn't
strictly the name his parents or his
birth certificate has on it. I would
imagine
>> badge.
>> Yeah. Or a badge. Yeah. And also he's
wearing stuff that he isn't entitled to
wear in order probably to get an
entitlement
that is not his to have. Really
interesting. Chase, what do you got on
this one?
>> Yeah, this happened to me on a plane
once.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> So, I live near Norfolk, Virginia, and
I'm flying out of Norfolk, and the base
here is all the SEAL teams are right
here, uh, in Little Creek, uh, which is
in Virginia Beach. And this guy beside
me, uh, I asked him like, "Oh, what do
you do?" words out of his mouth. And
Greg, listen to this. You, you didn't
even serve in the Navy. He he responds
by saying, "I'm on the SEAL teams.
I am on the SEAL teams. I've never heard
anyone say that who is a SEAL in my
lifetime and I've worked with them for a
long time.
>> Can't imagine. Can't imagine.
>> I never mentioned that I was in the Navy
or anything. I asked him a few more
questions and then he said he was on
SEAL team three.
>> Oh yeah,
>> that's the one in the Midwest.
>> Yeah. So even numbered SEAL teams are on
the uh East Coast by the way. So, like
you really really really got to know
what you're doing. And I didn't even ask
any hard questions. What buds class were
you? Like all these other things that
that give this stuff away. Um, but if
what this reminds me of is this movie
Catch Me If You Can.
>> This guy Frank Abigail in the movie. He
pretends to be a lawyer and a surgeon
and a pilot and all this other stuff. uh
and he tricks the head FBI guy who's
played by Tom Hanks and he tricks him
with a wallet full of receipts
and kind of pretends like it's some kind
of a badge. The difference is Mark to
what you were talking about with this
minimum thing is confidence
and we don't see any of that here. There
is rapid movement and there's a sound or
something and there's rapid orientation.
This that's what we call orientation.
There's rapid speech. Uh, this is not
how police deal with one another. That's
not how military guys deal with one
another. Even if you're in trouble or
something like that, this is not how
this looks. As I'm watching this this
morning, uh there's a five-part theory
for why I think people do this so often.
Uh they buy all the gear, they wear it
around town like this. Uh, and it's just
like, uh, I want to be cool, so I'm
gonna, instead of me like sprinting my
ass off and learning to run 20 miles in
the sand and all this other stuff, I
could just go buy the little cool body
armor. I could go, you know, get the
little helmet or buy some night vision
goggles or whatever. This is
interesting. U, but I'm going to cover a
huge piece of this in each clip that I
think is relevant. And first one is
significance. When somebody pretends to
be a cop, what they're really after, in
my estimation, isn't control. It's
usually significance.
So, the badge becomes this little
shortcut to getting some kind of meaning
in your life. So, for a few minutes of
your life, people are going to move out
of your way. They're going to look at
you like you're somebody. And this is a
little hit of significance hits harder
than drugs for some of these people. And
it's not about tricking other people in
in my estimation. I think it all of this
stems down to escaping maybe a pain of
being invisible or unimportant or
insignificant. So for some of these
people, the uniform is the only time
that they get to feel seen or respected.
>> Sorry.
>> No, he's he's going to it's in my other
bag.
>> Oh, okay.
>> It's uh he's grabbing it now.
>> Okay. How long have you been working for
the Salvation Army?
>> Sorry.
>> How long have you been working off duty
for the Salvation Army? Uh
uh I'm I'm here almost every other week.
>> Every other week.
>> Yeah. Uh and then I also work down at
the uh KRM.
>> Okay. And what's your full name?
>> Mezzi. Scalleta. M E Z Y. S A L E T.
>> Your first name is Mezzi.
>> M E Z Y. Correct.
>> Hey man. Yeah. The It's going to be the
green bag. It And it's got the my wallet
with the credentials and everything
inside of it. And the no uh in the
upstairs. upstairs.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My bad.
>> My apologies. Thank you.
>> Serge, can you stay over here?
>> Yeah.
>> Please. All right. I'll see you in a
minute.
>> Is it a loaded firearm that you have
with you, Mr. Scalleta?
>> Correct.
>> Okay. Can you put your hands on the car,
please?
Not familiar with the retention of this
holster. Just keep your hands right
there.
Can we not do this in front of every I
mean really?
>> Yeah.
>> You're doing just fine. Keep your hand.
No problems, man.
>> Can I contact my P as soon as y'all are
>> Do you have any other firearms on you,
sir?
>> No, sir.
>> Okay. Here's what you do.
>> So So you're not under arrest right now?
>> No, but you're being detained. Okay.
>> So his credentials.
>> Okay. Ed in the front.
>> What agency did you say you were with?
>> Edgman.
>> You're with Edmonds.
>> Ed. Edmonds. Yes.
>> Okay. Okay. Do you understand being
entertainer?
>> I I I understand the whole process. Yes,
I do.
>> Okay.
>> Amazing. Thanks.
>> What's that?
>> Okay. Thank you, guys.
>> No, you need to talk to us real quick.
>> Well, let me
So, the reason that we're here is
because they explained you were behaving
erratically like somewhat. Um,
>> that's okay. Here's the thing. Um,
you're in the wrong lounge.
>> No, I know that and I was perfectly
aware of that.
>> Okay. You see
>> when I came to Delta?
>> Okay. So,
>> the American help,
>> right? Can you explain why you made the
decision to come in here?
>> No ma'am. Absolutely no.
>> You can't explain that.
>> I'm on TV talking like it's just you and
me. I can't do that when I'm dreaming
about it.
>> It's not TV.
>> Okay.
>> So,
you really need to help.
>> I'm trying to help. But we need to get
your sunglasses on.
>> We need to get you out of the Delta Sky
Club.
>> Okay, thank you. Let's do it.
>> All right, let's go.
>> Do you know what gate you're at?
>> I think we're going to get you over at
necessary.
>> Do you know what gate you're at?
>> Oh, yeah. B1.
>> B1. All right, we'll we'll see if we can
get you over there.
>> Do you have anything that's with you
like carryon?
>> I'm trying to help you.
>> I know.
>> I just need you to work with me, too.
>> Yeah, sure.
Why? I'm just trying to make
conversation.
>> Relax.
Relax.
>> Oh, I'm relaxed.
>> Well, there isn't a smoking loan. The
only one is right here and you got to
pay for it.
>> Uh, no. I don't think the British
airlines has the smoking line at Bravo
5. So, you need to help me smoke my
plate.
>> Smoking lounge is right here, but you
have to pay to get in.
>> 10 bucks, please.
>> I don't have $10. We're waiting on the
cashier.
>> Okay, cool.
>> All right, Mark, what do you got?
>> Yeah, listen. Once again, the the
officers here like zero escalation on on
this. They've got, you know, wouldn't be
wouldn't be what where I'd be right now,
but then that's probably why I'm not an
officer. So, so, uh, yeah, it's it's
already pretty intolerable, uh, what is
happening here for most people. They're
keeping super calm, which is great. Um,
especially with some of the sounds she's
producing. Now, she's from uh, Scotland,
so we got a Scottish accent there. I
would place it somewhere up higher in
Scotland like Invenesse or something
like like that for for me. So because
it's a bit of a mixture. There's
sometimes a bit of Edinburgh and a bit
of Glasgow and then some
>> Show us the differences. Tell us show us
some of the differences, Mark.
>> Oh, well the Glasgow is way is is way
though I think she'll have been she'll
have spent some time in Glasgow at some
point. It's way more aggressive
naturally. the baseline of of it will
sound more more aggressive and and just
way less understandable to most most
human beings. I'm not even going to
attemp I'm not even going to attempt
there. There'll be too many Scottish
watching that if I start to delineate
between Scottish accents, they'll have
me uh they'll they I'm flying the
Canadian flag today. So, I'm not so I'm
not even going to go go near go near
Britain uh at this point. I won't risk
it. I won't risk it. Uh so you know, you
can thank me later, Scotland. Um, but
there's this rolled um use and she hits
an R really, but she hits it gutturally
down in her chest somewhere at a sound
level where when I was I did some voices
for Lord of the Rings, the third the
third one, and you hit and if I'm doing
orcs, you're trying to create a sound
that will really kind of resonate
through a cim cinema and and affect
people on a kind of a guttural level. So
down down there down there she hits
Mark. I hate to keep breaking in to hear
one of your lines.
>> Go to the mall now.
>> But you got to hit that down that that
really guttural thing. She hits that on
really
>> you really need to help.
>> It's quite it's quite scary uh actually.
Uh so so I think there's there's some
aggression uh in there. Um, now look,
I'm I'll just say this. Um, she's got no
carry-on.
So, she says,
>> "Do you have anything that's with you
like carry on?"
>> Okay.
>> That's not the usual behavior of most
any passenger to be walking around an
airport with zero carryon. For me, I go,
"Okay, you are now a complete outlier to
everybody else in this airport." And and
what's interesting is she's being
uncompliant with the officers, but
airports are designed to make people
compliant, designed to create as much
compliance as possible. It's a very
difficult thing getting people on and
off. very expensive equipment that can
go all kinds of wrong, very dangerous
equipment, especially, you know, since
9/11. Things have escalated in terms of
compliance. You got somebody there who
has no hand luggage and is being
uncompliant. They are now moving away
from all the usual social rules. So, she
is being she's got a lot of antisocial
behaviors going on. Now, is that because
she has an antisocial personality
disorder? Is that because she's taken a
concoction of drugs? Um, that that's
making her antisocial or uh a bit of
both. I don't know. I don't know. Uh
it's very odd how she's flipping from
these guttural aggressive sounds to then
uh oh yeah, it'll be 11. She says
talking about the gate. Oh yeah, it'll
be 11.
>> You know what gate you're at?
>> Oh yeah, it'll be 11. I was like, "Wow,
what happened to like the aggressive
guttural sound to that and you don't
have luggage with you?" Like, we're in a
We're not in Kansas. We're in a whole
other state, but we're not in Kansas
anymore. Uh, Chase, what do you got on
this one?
>> Yeah, clearly there's a a mental
condition going on. I'm not saying some
diagnosis, but there's something
cognitive happening here. We know she's
a comedian and that she has prolonged
periods of lucidity that can be viewed
on YouTube. So, I think there's likely a
mix of medications, maybe some alcohol
that are maybe causing what's going on.
It's 700 p.m. give or take when this
video is is taken. So, she's not
carrying any luggage and isn't aware
she's obviously lost her bags. So,
there's some kind of cognitive
impairment here for sure. So in
situations like this, it really pays off
to be calm and these officers are doing
an incredible job at keeping the
situation just under control. It is just
really unfortunate
and she may have taken some meds or
something like that. Um maybe that she
hasn't ever mixed together before, but
I'm just curious why the officer hears
her say she has no carry-on and luggage
and it's not a big deal to him. Maybe it
is. Do you have anything that's with you
like carry on?
>> Absolutely.
>> But there's no way that she's traveling
with a passport, a vape, and a phone.
So, she's got to have bags somewhere.
And the fact that she's not mentioning
them or talking about needing to go get
them in another area is a solid
indicator to me that she's going through
some cognitive impairment here. And at
the end, she's asking the police officer
for money.
>> 10 bucks, please. I don't think that's
some kind of crazy entitlement. I I
think she's not comprehending the
situation. I think her brain is only
processing the present moment just by
itself. And the lack of feeling in
control, lack of familiarity is a very
common reaction to that cognitive
impairment. The officer is a 10 on the
maturity and professionalism scale here.
That's super impressive. Greg, what do
you got? Yeah, let's talk about
asymmetric behavior right out of the
gate because that disarms people.
Someone's yelling at you and you don't
yell back, things typically die off.
There's a whole extinction of behavior
occurs. And this guy's I agree with you
100%. They're 10 out of 10 on this
chase. Another interesting thing, you
don't need really exotic chemicals to
get to this point. When I was in
Arlington, in Arlington, everybody's
hand chosen, and we're all hand chosen
based on height and weight. That was
pretty much what we would always say. We
had a guy in the office who was kind of
squirly, a little odd, and there's a
place really close to Arlington called
Arlington Hall Station. And if you're an
Intel asset, you would know that's where
the headquarters of Insom was located.
The place you don't want to go get drunk
and do something stupid. Well, this guy
did. You ever got really, really
stupidly drunk. And we all know if
you've been drunk a few times, and I
think most of us have, your brain can
start to make connections between things
that don't have any connection. This guy
ended up getting in real trouble there.
The best part of the whole thing was
they put him, they wouldn't let him
smoke. Reminds me of her. They wouldn't
let him smoke and he melted down and
started demanding from cops and all
this, the MPs. And finally they said,
"You can't smoke in the building." He
said, "Chain me to a car out front." So
his brain is finding solers does too.
Finds solutions to problems that aren't
real and doesn't solve the real ones.
The funniest part of the whole thing is
I remember they brought this little
envelope over to us. We kept our hair
shaved on the side, something called a
high and tight, and just air on the top.
You could have it pretty moppy there.
This envelope had hands full of hair he
had pulled out when they wouldn't let
him smoke outside. So, they finally did
chain him up outside and let him smoke
on a car. Just like this person, he's
making all kinds of bad assumptions. If
she has any idea of threat assessment,
you can't tell it. That defiant chin up
as she looks directly into his eyes, an
invasion of his physical space, that's
not a real healthy thing to do. That
takes a hell of a lot of constraint on
his part and he does a great job. And
then she's got a furrow in her in her
brow. And then she stares into that body
cam and that's why you know she has some
kind of capability to connect real
world. She's not in some wild out there
location. So we know she has the
capability to connect real world. One
thing that we'll point out is halfway
through this video they leave, go away
and then get called back because she's
been done so much stupid stuff. I I just
say if you're get to this point and
you're dealing with somebody and it's
you individually, try some asymmetric
behavior, try to calm things down. But
realistically, when you got a person
who's firing on two different tracks
this way, you're probably not going to
get anything good to come out of it. And
I don't think we're see anything good
come out of her. Scott, what do you got?
>> Yeah, I agree. And her demeanor when
she's like, "Thanks, guys."
>> Okay.
>> Thanks, baby.
>> What's that?
>> Thank you, babe.
>> Has that office manager energy, you
know? it's they're saying something it's
not really real. It's kind of fake
sounded. It's not sincere, but they're
just saying, "Yeah, thanks, guys." And
moving on, not even thinking about it
because they know they have to say that.
So, I I think she's completely removed
from any any type of reality at all
here. So, and again, like you guys have
already brought up, it's odd she doesn't
have a purse with her, isn't talking
about it and say, "Here, go get my
purse. I got to get my bag. I got to get
what she didn't have a purse." whatever
it is, doesn't have anything to put all
her stuff in and she's walking around
the the airport with a bunch of stuff in
her hands. It's just it's just weird.
But these guys, I think know right out
of the gate. Nashville, I'm I'm going to
brag on them. Nashville police officers,
man, it's a it's a whole other scene.
They're so pro. You know how in South
Carolina, the the troopers, the ones you
want to watch out for over there because
they're they're the they're the
toughest, you know? So, in Nashville,
these guys are the most pro. I mean,
LA's look good, you know. You get over
there and everybody looks like a model
walking around. Most of them, you know,
from a movie or something, but these
guys are all everybody's it's just top
that I'm telling you. Some of my best
friends in the world are are uh NMPD and
it's it's they're great. They're they're
top of the line trained everything.
Trust me, they're they're awesome. And
then when she lets go that thing where
she says she's famous, she lets them
know she's famous when she says I'm
famous. I'm
>> on TV talking like it's just you and me.
can't be that well. It
>> just that's why I think it's edibles,
man. I think she's just blasted out of
her brain. Her her arms aren't real
close to her torso. She's doing nothing
that says I'm afraid. The chin's up, you
know. She's moving around pretty quick.
Nothing's protect She's not protecting
herself in any way, you know. So, she's
not afraid. So, that whole thing, that
whole fear thing is gone. Her ego is
wide open there, you know. So, I agree
with you, Mark. this is some it might be
some kind of psychological thing as well
that this is enhancing everybody's
talked about that on here but I think
that's what it is but when she turns
into the little monster for a second
does Mark's uh Lord of the Rings voice
where she says uh you I really you
really need to help like that I think
that's when they said okay she's not
going anywhere but you don't see that
that change in them because they they
may have decided that earlier you know
cuz we find out in a little while where
her bags are but they don't know that
yet they have earthly idea where those
that she she even has any or knows where
they are. So that's I think the point
where they said, "Yeah, she's not she's
not going anywhere, man." But they don't
show it, don't say anything. They just
continue to be the pros. What do you
say, Greg?
>> Yeah. They actually leave her for 20
minutes and then get called back. I
mean, it's they're that professional.
They're just saying, "Look, if she if
the airline can deal with her, let her
go."
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, I don't know. I I'm I'm
going with edibles. I think she just
like hit one hard, man. She's in a hole.
>> Okay,
>> thanks.
>> What's that?
>> Okay, thank you guys.
>> No, you need to talk to us real quick.
>> Well, let me
So, the reason that we're here is
because they explained you were behaving
erratically like somewhat. Um,
>> that's okay. Here's the thing. Um,
you're in the wrong lounge.
>> No, I know that. I was aware of that.
>> Okay. You
>> when I went to the hotel.
>> Okay. So, can you the medical help,
>> right? Can you explain why you made the
decision to come in here?
>> No ma'am.
>> Absolutely no.
>> You can't explain that on TV talking
like it's just you and me. I can't do
that without you.
>> It's not TV.
>> Okay.
>> So, you really need to help.
>> I'm trying to help.
>> So, we need to get on.
>> We need to get you out of the Delta Sky
Club.
>> Okay. Thank you. Let's do it.
>> All right. Let's go.
>> Do you know what gate you're at?
>> Cuz I think I'm going to get you over if
necessary. Do you know what gate you're
at?
>> Oh, yeah. B1.
>> B1. All right. We'll we'll see if we can
get you over there.
>> Do you have anything that's with you?
Like carry on?
>> No.
>> I'm trying to help you.
>> I know.
>> I just need you to work with me, too.
Yeah.
>> Yeah, sure.
>> Why? I'm just trying to make
conversation.
>> You actually
relax.
>> Oh, I'm relaxed. It's getting ready to
be at home.
>> So, there isn't a smoking lounge. The
only one is right here and you got to
pay for it.
>> Uh, no. I don't think the British
Airlines has the smoking lounge at Bravo
5.
>> Smoke on the plane.
>> Smoking lounge is right here, but you
have to pay to get in.
10 bucks, please.
>> I don't have $10.
>> We're waiting on the cashier.
>> Okay, cool.
>> All right, fellas. Think this is another
good and we'll see you next time.
Heat.
Heat.