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You're a dad. You want to be a strong
dad. Of course you do. You want your
kids to think you're awesome. You want
to be able to start the lawnmower with
one pull. You want to be awesome.
>> Heck yeah.
>> But there's five obstacles, five common
obstacles that get in the way. Suddenly
you have kids. It's hard to be strong.
What do you do? We're going to talk
about that in today's episode and give
you the solution.
>> Is that not the universal measure of dad
strength right there?
>> That the chainsaw.
>> Can you start the mower chain? Yeah. Any
sort of pull pull? Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. that can start can you start
it in one pool. That's the ultimate flex
when you start your neighbor
>> are like one wood chop with just one
stroke.
>> Yeah. But yeah know this is so I want to
do this episode because we get a lot of
guys that call in and either they're
becoming fathers and so like okay what
do I do with my workouts or they just
became dads and uh a lot of you know
when you look at the data on like what
motivates men to work out. This is
actually one of the top 10. One of the
top 10 things is I became a dad and I I
I thought, you know, I should probably
be fit so I could play with my kids or
at least take care of my health.
>> Yeah.
>> But you've got lots of new
responsibilities
and so um objectively it's more
difficult. It definitely is. I It's
different when you're a bachelor
especially. You're not married, you have
no kids. Like it's your schedule is your
schedule. There's nothing in there.
>> Now being both you guys were in your 20s
having kids and also in the fitness
space. Did this cross your mind or was
this just was this an afterthought
because it was already your profession?
>> Good question. Uh it wasn't an you know
there's always that initial phase when
kids are real young but because I worked
in gyms it I worked my work had weights
so it wasn't that hard for me to be
consistent.
>> Yeah. it just brought on a whole another
level of hustle and so yeah I threw the
the workouts definitely ramped up for me
uh just because I just felt this like
compelling urge to do everything at
once. Uh but yeah I think I think for me
I always wanted to maintain a level of
strength um you know as my kids got
older just to to make sure I kind of led
the example of that. Yeah, I know that,
you know, I'm I'm the one who waited,
right? So my mid30s before or late 30s
even before having uh Max
>> and uh I do think that it played a role
in the whole mobility kick. I remember
>> you became more motivated for it. Yeah,
I remember being buff and jack guy and
then thinking like how uncomfortable it
was for me to even get down and in a
seated squatted position and thought,
man, and I could just picture being down
with him as a baby and thinking like,
you know, this is going to be I'm going
to be all jacked with him like getting
down. And so I remember that being in
the back of my mind like, okay, this is
this is a good enough reason for me to
go down this kind of rabbit hole of
mobility. So, it did play a role for me
that but I figured just you guys were
probably in your prime in your 20s
already in fitness.
>> Well, I put on some weight, dude. Oh,
you did. And then I had to Yeah. Then I
was on the hustle to to get rid of some
of that weight. But yeah, it was one of
those sneaky things. You look back at
pictures, you're like, "Oh, wow. Did I
put on weight with her?"
>> Well, if you look, you put on baby
weight, huh?
>> Yeah.
>> A lot of men do.
>> I know. It's I think it's uh What is the
average, Doug? I want to say it's 15
>> 15 to 25 lbs. I think the average man
puts on when his wife gets pregnant.
Yeah, they start eating the same foods
together. Yeah,
>> guy starts just I'm mean for two also.
>> Wasn't good for business.
>> Well, I mean look I mean again to be
objective it's just it's just more
challenging. You have mouths to feed so
the job becomes much more important. Uh
you have your your schedule is now more
limited.
>> It's just more difficult to maintain a
good level of of fitness food now you
know it's harder to plan. you start to
eat more, you know, processed foods or
eat out more. So, the average man gains
weight after he becomes a father. Uh,
the average guy, uh, his fitness level
drops after he becomes a dad. So, what
does that say there, Doug?
>> Yeah. So, some don't gain much, but some
may gain 10 pounds or more. I feel like
it's
>> I mean, it's very general.
>> I know all of my all of my buddies that
are not I mean, you're admitting you
were a fitness guy. Even my all my
buddies that were non-fitness guys,
>> I think you're lying if you
>> put on put on a lot more than 10 pounds.
I remember Well, let's talk about some
of the challenges. Let's talk about
that. So, I would say the first
challenge is time.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, uh getting away
>> for sure.
>> Going to the gym, taking an hour at the
gym, you know, 30 minutes drive time,
all this and that and the other, but now
you have a kid
>> or more. Uh and you know, you got a wife
that you want to also support. Um it
feels
>> it's it is objectively more difficult to
find time. It's also feels kind of like
wrong to take tons of time.
>> It's it's not even just that either.
There's it's also the other factor that
Justin kind of alluded to, which is this
this new internal drive to like um
provide more. And so you naturally you
kick up this this work kick of like I've
got to make sure retirement's now said I
can feed all these mouths that were like
you're starting to think differently.
And
>> you and I remember you guys telling me
this that you you'll see you'll find a
new level of work ethic when that
happens. So now you have this new
dedication to work more than what you
already had. So regardless if you were
already a hardworking dad, you become a
harder working dad. And then it becomes
this kind of like, well, I'm already
sacrificing this time with my kid. Like,
okay, do I want to go to the gym and do
another selfish act? Forget it. I'll
just I can handle not being in shape
right now. And so we tend to let that
go, I think.
>> Yeah. And I mean, I don't think I need
to make the case, but a fit, healthy
version of you is going to be more
productive at work. Uh, you're going to
be have more energy at home.
>> You're going to be more often than not
in a better mood versus if you're not
fit, not healthy, you're less likely to
be anxious, depressed,
>> and I'm sure your family wants you fit
and healthy as well. So, the challenge
is how do I fit this in my schedule? How
do I keep this consistent? Well, there's
this myth out there that in order to be,
and we'll talk about strength training
because that's the form of exercise
that's going to give you the most ROI.
So, there's many different ways to
exercise. Uh, but strength training
gives you a very high return when it's
done right, at least, uh, versus the
time spent. In other words, you'll get
the most muscle, fat loss benefits,
metabolic benefits, you know, health
benefits, hormone benefits
>> from strength training on a time for
time basis in comparison to other forms
of exercise. So, let's just start there.
There is this myth with strength
training that you have to go to the gym
at least a few days a week and it needs
to be like an hour workout. Now, I'm not
saying that's not good. You know, you
could go to the gym three days a week,
an hour each uh time, and that'll
probably be as long as it's a good
program, decent. But for a lot of men,
uh that's just it's just too difficult
to be consistent three days a week to
take that time away because it's not
just an hour at the gym, it's going
there and back. So, you're really
looking at an hour and a half, two
hours. Is there another alternative? And
there is. And it literally looks like
this. Every day you do one or two lifts.
That's it. So, every single day you do
three sets of an exercise or three sets
of two exercises and you're done.
>> This will take you 15, 20 minutes a day,
especially if you have some pretty basic
equipment at home like uh just a basic
barbell, squat rack, or even just
dumbbells. You could do this on a daily
basis and get tremendous returns. So,
you're you're actually getting
phenomenal uh gains and strength and
muscle and all these things from what
seems like very minimal effort. And
that's because uh you're doing it every
single day. Saved me uh back in the day
so much. I was under the impression even
back then that I had to make sure I got
like at least 45 to an hour worth of
work in for it to be valuable. Uh, and
then on top of that, it's like I'm
working two jobs and then one I added on
because my wife was out of work and so I
got this added stress and then no sleep
on top of that. So, it's just this like
and then you're increasing your calories
and your cravings and so yeah, if you're
just focused and dialed in and you you
don't add too much excess of uh stress
with exercise and you you match it so
it's actually beneficial, it's huge.
This uh completely saved me and changed
the way I thought about home gyms. If
you guys remember those that have been
anti-home gym,
>> that's right. If you listen far enough
back, um I was the gym rat guy and I'm
just a I could I don't see myself
working at home and I was kind of not a
fan of it. Never had done it
consistently. When we moved to Marina
when uh Max was a newborn, uh we was the
first time I had built I put the PRX gym
inside of our garage and this is how I
train and this is how Katrina trained.
So, we both trained this way and it was
so great to have this newborn baby that
I felt so present to be with. She felt
so pre and we just kind of would
alternate like I'm going to go do a set
of squats and I'd go in and then she'd
come out and we were like taking turns
playing with him and going back and
forth and just we'd se we we'd even take
like an hour to do two of these
exercises just taking turns on sets and
just kind of trained and worked out that
way and it was so great. I felt so good.
>> Yeah. Th this we're going to give you
the exercises that you could just rotate
through and literally if you did these
exercise if you did one of these a day
or two of them in a day you're going to
get good results. You're going to get
stronger. You're going to see results
and you'll be pretty consistent because
it's not a big uh it's not a big time
suck. Not only that, but if you miss a
day, you just pick right back up. You
just literally pick right back up.
>> Here's what the exercises are. And you
can just rotate these. Just make sure
you do one of them uh almost every week.
You have a squat, a deadlift. You have
an incline press, an overhead press, a
row, a lateral drag of some sort, so a
lateral sled drag or tube walking,
>> a windmill, and a perfect sit-up. If you
did one of those a day for three to four
or five sets every single day, you're
looking at 15 minutes a day, you have
yourself a complete strength training
routine. A lot of people listening might
be like, "Ah, is that really going to
work?" Try it.
>> Yeah.
>> Part of our grade eight, right? I mean,
that's these are the grade eight. This
is the grade eight exercises that we
talked about just recently.
>> And they're very balanced. Everyone I
named, if you did all of these, it's
very balanced. You're working your whole
body, different planes of motion.
>> You cover the swath of function of the
body.
>> That's right. That's right. And if you
just did this, you're going to get like
80 to 85% of all the results you could
ever expect from strength training. And
I don't say that lightly. So, yes, you
could squeeze out more results by more
working out, but think about that. 15
minutes a day
>> as a baseline, though. This is so
perfecting. I even like looking at it
more uh like the month than even like a
weekly thing too where it's just like
you said where you know even if you had
a rough day or two or a bad night of
sleep up night all with baby and so you
didn't train that day you just pick up
where you left off. So you just
>> follow these eight in a row and just
keep repeating it over for an entire
month and don't worry so much about this
three day week split or four day week
like splitting your week up. It's just
like, hey, try and get in there every
day. Try and do this one of these main
exercises and work through them
consecutively. You'll get stronger. Even
if you get a day by day missed here or
there, you just keep following it like
that. At the end of the month, you'll
have hit these all several times and I
guarantee you'll see good results.
>> That's right.
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show. The next challenge is diet. Now, I
think there's there's a couple reasons
why diet is so challenging. One of them
is we we just we tend to over complicate
the heck out of this. It's
>> like, oh god, okay, well, what do I eat?
How many calories? How do I cut? Like,
okay, am I eating enough to build
muscle? What about body fat?
>> Macro balance.
>> Do I got to track? No, no. Here's some
simple rules. Follow simple rules. And
literally, if you just do these rules,
we're about to say right here, there's
three of them. uh your food intake will
be pretty appropriate, meaning you'll
eat enough to build muscle. You'll also
eat enough to start to help yourself
burn body fat. You'll get body
composition change just by following
these. Here's the rules. Number one,
only eat whole foods. So, this is the
one thing you stay away from. Stay away
from processed foods. Anything that
comes in bags or boxes or wrappers,
things with lots of ingredients, just
stay away from those. They make you
overeat. They're they're engineered to
make you overeat. uh trying to eat an
appropriate amount of food unless you
track every calorie when you're eating
processed foods is very it's almost
impossible. They just they just make you
overeat. All the data shows this. So
just avoid those. The next thing aim aim
for 50 grams of protein for each meal.
Eat it first. That's it. 50 grams. For
most men, this is appropriate. That'll
be about 150 grams a day. If you're
eating three uh three meals a day,
you're a big guy. Four meals, that's 200
grams of protein. Eat it first because
it has a natural appetite suppressing
effect. Protein typically comes paired
with fat. So you're getting your
essential fats uh along with your
essential proteins. And then if you want
to eat a little more in that meal, go
and eat the rest of the food. Eat the
carbohydrates which and the vegetables
and stuff that comes after. But just eat
the 50 grams of protein first,
breakfast, lunch, and dinner. And last,
drink a gallon of water a day. That's
it. If every man listening to this right
now just did those things and was good
with those three uh rules, your body fat
percentage would eventually fall to
around 15% give or take a few percent.
You'd build muscle and strength with the
routine that we listed. That's pretty
much it.
>> I said, so I just got interviewed last
week uh by our friend Doug Bops, and
this was what he wanted to talk about
was, does he hear me respond to an Alex
Hermoszi thing about being ripped? And I
made the comment of like, actually, most
women want men between 10 and 15%, a
peak of them actually being 12 to 13%.
And so the whole episode was about
dieting to get down to 12 to 13 and like
what does that look like? And literally,
this is the steps I took. The only
difference is I said for just one month
just focus on the whole foods. I wasn't
even I was like just start there. Yeah.
If you're somebody if you're a man in
your mid 20s to 30% body fat trying to
get down to this the mid teens 13 to
15%. I'm like just telling them for a
month to eat whole foods will shift them
several percent just by doing that. And
then the next phase after that would be
okay now go get protein. I'm like and he
was like what? No weighing no I'm like
no no no calorie counting no weighing no
measuring. the only thing that you're
going to track is protein and follow
that and li and lift consistently. And I
I said either a three-day a week or like
a MAP 15 type of routine. And I said,
you would be surprised how far that will
take the the average person. It will
take you at least down to that 12 to 15.
You may not get on stage and win.
>> No, you're not going to get shredded on
this.
>> No, but you'll fall in you'll fall in
the category that the opposite sex
thinks is the ultimate.
>> You're not going to have a belly. You'll
have flat, you know, relatively flat
midsection, good muscle, you'll look
fit. Uh, this is typically what women
are attracted to.
>> It's easy to maintain. You just do these
rules and you'll always fall right
around there. It's a nice slow
progression. So, if you follow this,
your body will just nice even change
month after month after month. It's not
such a low cut that you lose and
sacrifice muscle mass or testosterone.
You'll build muscle doing this as well.
While you're hitting the the grams of
protein, you're going to feel satisfied.
So, you're not going to feel like you're
starving yourself. uh the only thing
that you're not doing or trying to take
away is the processed foods. Otherwise,
you're kind of chasing things, right?
And you're going to feel great doing it.
It's very, very simple. That takes care
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Back to the show. Next up is sleep.
Sleep can be a very difficult one,
especially when you have uh newborns.
But I will say this, so when you look at
dads and you're like, "Okay, what's the
thing that gets in the way of sleep?"
There's two things that really get in
the way uh for fathers. One is my mind
is racing.
>> Yeah.
>> So I go to bed, my mind is resting. So I
got to figure out a way to get my body
into a parasympathetic kind of relaxed
state. The other one is you're watching
TV or you're on your phone. These are
just sleep killers. Okay? So, I'll start
with the last one first. Uh, wear blue
blue light blockers about 2 hours before
bed or better yet, turn off your
electronics a couple hours before bed. I
know that's hard for some people. So,
wear really nice dark blue light
blocking glasses. That'll help uh reduce
the the wake signal that the light is
sending your brain. And then for the
parasympathetic, do slow, deep, static
stretching for 10 minutes before you go
to bed. Breathe through the stretches.
Don't hold your breath while you're
doing these stretches. that'll actually
do the opposite. Breathe. Static
stretching literally sends a signal to
the to the central nervous system that
says chill out and relax. And what
you'll find is especially if you're in
bed and you find yourself to be tense or
tight or you get that feeling in your
legs like this solves that and you'll go
right to sleep.
>> Well, yeah. two of you especially you um
include breathing techniques alongside
with that to to really enhance you know
that parasympathetic state like getting
those deep uh long expanding type of
like inhales and then a slow exhale it's
really hard not to be in a calm state
after you go through that
>> you guys know you know what else has
kind of helped me and I've like really
noticed the the patterns of when I do it
when I don't do it in regards to getting
a better night's sleep when I and I It's
become kind of a family tradition now
when we when we sit down for dinner, we
turn it on in the background and having
like easy listening dinner jazz,
>> chill music.
>> Yeah. Or Brain FM if you if you like
what they have going on there cuz
>> classical music.
>> Yeah. There's something about that
playing in the background. It's not
distracting cuz it's there's no it's all
instrumental. So there's no words or
anything I'm singing to. It's just this
>> soothing. It's very soothing. And it and
it and I feel it like shift me from this
kind of like thinking about the day,
working with that to like h it's like
time to relax, I'm with the family,
dinner that's playing in the background.
And it sets the tone for winding down
and all the other things you guys are
talking about before bed. I've noticed a
big difference with that.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Getting your body into this
parasympathetic state before bed. Even
if you're only going to sleep six or
seven hours cuz you're like, "Oh my god,
I'm going to bed late or I got to wake
up really early." You'll get more
restful sleep.
>> And it's a very easy practice. It's like
you're going to bed 10 minutes, get on
the floor, do these stretches, breathe
real deep, and the the areas you
probably are going to want to stretch
are your hips. Hips really have a lot to
do with parasympathetic. So, stretch the
hips, stretch the hamstrings, stretch
the hands a little bit, get into bed,
and it makes a huge difference.
>> What's even a good practice to figure
this out like how to calm your body down
even after like a really grueling
workout to get right into
parasympathetic state, your recovery
rate increases substantially. That's
right.
>> You know, I think was what a great
point, Justin, is just I think one of
the things with this is I've I've met
different people like maybe your jazz is
not your thing, right? So, I'm not
telling everybody they got to listen to
that, but finding what is it that gets
you into that calm state like, and maybe
it is the stretching, maybe it's
reading, you know, maybe it is just
shutting the electronics off, maybe it's
having switching the lights to kind of
the red light, but it's like I think the
most important thing is literally just
awareness around trying to create that.
We put so much energy and focus on uh
waking up, right? The cold plunges and
the get up by 5 and these morning
routines. Yeah, we have all these
routines around the morning to set the
tone for the day. Yet sleep is more
important and we don't really put any
energy and effort. I think simply making
an attempt on what really does calm me
down at night and what helps that
process and leaning into that I think is
the is the sweet. You know, it's crazy.
You said uh reading uh reading a on
paper, a paper bookactile
>> puts you to sleep. Yes. Reading on your
phone wakes you up. Try it. Try it.
People read before bed all the time to
wind down. This was a practice for well
for probably for hundreds of years where
they read by candle light or have a nice
soft uh light next to you. But it moved
from that to reading on our phones which
is stimulatory which does the opposite.
So I'm glad he said that. Every time I
read a textbook for college, it was like
me.
>> No, there there was time. I remember
figuring that out and I'd be laying in
bed and if I was tossing and turning, my
mind was racing. I'd get up and just
open a book.
>> Yeah. Open a book and then give me about
15 minutes of reading that late. I'd be
so awesome. All right. Next up is pain.
So, uh, pain can be an issue. Back pain,
knee pain, shoulder pain. So, here's
what you do. Here's how you solve this.
Uh, pick one or three, one to three
mobility movements that are good for
you. So, the ones that you know help you
the most. So, some guys with hip pain,
they do the cross-legged, you know,
mobility movement where they're sitting
in their chair. It could be something
for your shoulder. Pick one to three of
them and you just practice them
throughout the day. So, when you find
yourself with a couple minutes, get in
there and stretch and do the mobility
movement. Um, and you do that two, three
times a day on a daily b. This is, by
the way, this is the way to get rid of
pain whether you have time or this is
how trainers, good trainers get their
clients to solve pain is to do mobility
throughout the day and it doesn't take
much of time at I'm glad you prescribed
a number. I think the mistake uh that I
see some people doing, say they go
through Prime or Prime Pro, and they get
overwhelmed by all these great mobility
moves and they try and implement a bunch
of them. And you
>> you're far better off picking one or two
that really give you relief and doing
them more frequently
>> than trying to do every single one in
the book and only doing it occasionally.
And so it's like find that one or two uh
mobility drills that make the greatest
impact and then do them more frequently
instead of doing more exercises.
>> That's right. And then there's two
supplements that can help with pain.
High EPA fish oil. Take it with meals.
And then bromelain. Take it in between
meals on an empty stomach. They're
actually extremely effective at reducing
inflammation. Finally, uh a
recommendation for activity that
benefits both white collar and blue
collar workers. So both both people
both avatars have different challenges,
right? White collar, you're not moving
much. You work at a desk in front of a
computer. You're lucky if you get, you
know, 4,000 steps a day. Blue collar,
you're moving all day long. You're, you
know, swinging a hammer, whatever, and
your body hurts and you're just So one's
inactive, one's very active. What would
benefit both of them? That's the same
thing. Walking. Walking is great
activity for the white collar worker.
It's also recuperative for the blue
collar worker. And so what you do with
the walking is try to take a couple
10-minute walks a day. The best time to
do this is after a meal to improve
insulin sensitivity. This for the blue
collar worker actually helps with pain,
stiffness, stress. For the white collar
worker, it gives you the activity that
you need. And that's it. Two 10 minutes
a day, maybe three, and you're good.
It's crazy how profound uh a 10-minute
walk is in in regards to like an energy
spike too to get I mean we do it here uh
every day and it's it's always a
difference. We get in this studio
>> before our second podcast we have to
>> and it it like makes such a different to
just get outside like that. It's a short
walk. We're not walking very long but
just moving like that out in sunlight
out in fresh air and and comes back to
work. Such a huge difference.
>> That's right. Look, if you like the
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