She R*ped Me, That's Not My Baby! | KARAMO

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Raymond doubts Latoya's baby is his while also claiming she assaulted him. They unlock the DNA truth to determine if the baby is his or the doubts are an excuse for his absence and emotional abuse.
0:00 - The Allegation: Latoya Raped Me
1:16 - Why Another Man Was in the Delivery Room
3:59 - Changing the Baby's Name to Honesty
5:16 - Raymond's Defense and Counter-Accusations
7:38 - Threats of Violence and Admission of Hitting
9:12 - Excuses for Lack of Financial Support
12:08 - The DNA Truth
13:04 - The Challenge of Co-Parenting in the Present
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I'm laying down in the bed like this.
And I wake up with you on top of me.
I think Latoya's a liar.
She had another man in the hospital
when the baby was born instead of me,
so I really didn't know how to take it.
He could be the dad. I could be the dad.
She wouldn't let me in the hospital at all.
Like, I saw, like, a few different dudes around
when the baby was born.
If it ain't mine, then it's one of theirs.
But I told Latoya that I didn't want no relationship.
I wasn't ready for a kid.
I was very adamant about telling Latoya that.
But she ended up ... I ended up waking up with her
on top of me while I was asleep.
Yeah, she did rape me.
I was asleep when she got on top of me.
There's no consensual on that.
When you're asleep, how the hell you know what's going on?
You don't know what's going on.
Time went by. She ended up saying she was pregnant.
I'll be honest, she really didn't let me see honesty
for, like, the first six to eight months of her life.
And then after I did get to see honesty,
like, I had to take the initiative to come to her.
Well, I want to find out if she's mine,
but if y'all really want me to be honest,
I really don't care if she is or she isn't.
Well, everyone, help me please welcome Latoya to the show
so we can hear her side of the story.
Okay, how you doing, Latoya?
How you doing, Karamo? I'm all right.
But I got to say, the first allegation he made in this
is that you raped him.
That's a very serious allegation.
How do you feel about that?
Did you rape him? No. He's full of ...
First and foremost, he's correct about we weren't
in a relationship. He was working, I was working.
It was just, to be honest,
which you just ... It was for entertainment purposes.
Yeah. Since you said that you did not rape him,
how did you find out that he's been telling people
that you raped him?
It was a guy that came into my place of business
where I worked at, and he asked me,
aren't you such and such as Raymond's mother of his child?
And I said, unfortunately, yes, I am.
So he was like, well, when you get a second,
could you step outside
so I can tell you what he's been saying?
So I step outside my place of business,
and he was like, yeah, I just want to let you know
he's going around telling everybody that you raped him
and that's how you got pregnant.
Were you sleeping with the other man
when you got pregnant? No.
Okay, so it was just him? Yes.
So you weren't sleeping with the other man?
That's one thing ... Listen, Karamo, this is one thing.
Yes, we weren't in a relationship,
but if I'm only messing with you,
I'm only messing with you. You understand what I'm saying?
So ... In that tape, he made allegations
that you had another man in the delivery room.
Oh, I did. Okay.
Oh, I did. It was one of my friends.
One of your friends, okay. It was one of my friends.
He said, I did.
I did. I did.
I'm not going to lie about it.
Listen, I'm 41 years old. What am I going to lie for?
Yes, it was someone else in the delivery room
because Raymond, prior to that, Raymond, he threatened me,
said he was going to have people come to my house, jump on me.
Wow. He said he was going to shoot me.
What?
So yes, prior to that, me and Raymond
had went to one of my doctor's appointments
where they told me, once I had honesty,
I was going to have to have a hysterectomy.
So she was going to be my last child.
Yeah. I cried about it until they told me no more periods.
Yeah, and then you ...
All right. Let's go.
So yes, I did have another person in the room
because I'm like this. I didn't know.
I was scared. I didn't know what was going to happen.
And he thought I really wanted him in the room and I'm scared.
I don't know what's going to go on.
Yeah, you want to make sure you're safe and your baby's safe.
I didn't want him in there anyway,
even if it didn't go on because he would have been the one
to tell them, don't resuscitate me.
Yeah. So you changed honesty's name?
Yes, I did.
And why?
Yes, I did. Okay, at the point when me and Raymond
was actually conversating cordial,
we were going to name her Rayla
because it's Raymond and Latoya put together.
So I changed it to honesty
because honesty is honestly the best thing I got from him.
So she's a very smart kid.
Did he see your daughter after she was born?
Yeah. He's only seen her four times in her life.
And how old is she?
She is about to be five in November.
Oh. What do you want from him if he is the father?
I want him to acknowledge her.
I want him to stop saying he doesn't know or maybe,
or I want him to acknowledge her.
It's not about me. It's not about him.
It's about her. I feel like this.
You don't need to be together with anyone
to help raise your child.
Listen, that's it.
That's just doing what's right for the kid.
Listen, get to know her so she can know you.
All right. Well, listen, everyone,
help me welcome Raymond to the show
so we can get his side of the story.
What up?
Hey, Raymond. Nice to meet you.
What up, Karama?
So I got a little camera. I can see you backstage.
And I saw you mouthing liar, liar, liar backstage.
So that's what we doing today?
I just asked the question. You can say yes or no.
That's what we doing today.
It's not about you.
It's not about me. It's about the baby.
That part. So let's get it.
Let's get it.
So at the end of the day, why is it taking five years for this?
And I only see my daughter four times?
First of all, when I was living in Pittsburgh
after the baby was born.
The first six to eight months, I wasn't allowed to see you.
Then after that, I mean, but then after that,
I'm going to get to that. But then after that,
but then after that, but then after that,
did not come see the baby.
I had people bring me to come see the baby.
How many times?
Even though you had men in the house.
How many times you had?
You had men in the house.
How many times? It doesn't matter.
More than four. I see.
I've seen honesty more than four times.
I'll be living in Pittsburgh.
What are you talking about?
She's saying you're lying, but you were saying backstage.
She's lying. What is she lying about?
Yes, the condom broke.
Yes, that happened. But then.
But then she's not going to bring up the fact
that while I'm sitting there asleep
after a three night binge trying to get some money.
Mind you, though, we're going to keep it a honey.
You was my best friend, shorty. Right or wrong.
Right. Right. So when I came to your house that night and say,
Joe, I've been out for three nights making money.
I need somewhere to lay my head.
You told me to go upstairs and lay down.
I went upstairs and laid down.
When I woke up, you was on top of me, shorty.
Hold up. Don't. Don't. Don't.
Then you asked me to come upstairs.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Because we're not about to argue.
We're not about to argue.
We're about to get this all out. Don't even worry about it.
So we're not about to say that.
But at the end of the day, Karamo,
let's let's let's take the subject off of me.
We're going to flip it. Now she's asleep.
I want some. I get on top of her
and she wake up and I'm on top of her and her.
What that mean to me? I'm going to jail.
Lies. I'm going to jail.
Lies. So you're saying that she did rape you from what you're saying.
Lies. Shorty, shorty, I'm laying down in the bed like this.
Wake up with you on top of me. Come on.
Who asked me to come upstairs?
I didn't ask you to come upstairs.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Like what are you talking about?
Stop playing with me. Stop playing with me.
Like I said, at the end of the day, cut that.
It's about honesty. Let's get it.
So but at the end of the day, five years I've been asking you for DNA.
Because she told me earlier that you threatened to beat her up,
to even shoot her. Is that true?
Never said I would shoot her.
But you did threaten to beat her up.
I told her she put her hands on me. I slapped her.
Lies.
But at the end of the day, at the end of the day,
you're not you're not going to put your hands on me.
First of all, I've never put my hands on you.
Never until until you tried to take my keys.
Shorty, you walked into 7-Eleven.
Shorty, you tried to choke me.
Shorty, Shorty, Shorty, Shorty, Shorty.
Make it make sense.
That's the only time anything came involved about a shooting
was when you threw that speaker at me.
And I wasn't even going to do nothing to you.
I've never put my hands on you. Nothing.
Lies. I put my hands on you before.
You choked me. What are you talking about?
And what did you do? Snatch me up?
I punched you over your face.
You snatched me up. What do you mean?
Yeah, but what happened? What are you talking about?
We're talking about honesty.
Bro, this is not about.
So, let me ask you this.
How many times have you seen the baby from your point of view?
I've seen Honesty about six times in Pittsburgh.
Four. Four.
And then since I've been out of Pittsburgh, I've contacted her.
How did she become down in North Carolina?
Hey, are you going to shut up and let me talk?
How did she get down to North Carolina?
Who paid for her to come down to North Carolina?
Are you going to shut up and let me talk?
Who paid for her to come down to North Carolina?
They sat there and heard your story.
No, answer the question. Answer the question, though.
They sat there and heard your story.
Who paid for it? Did you?
Look, I'm not about to.
Okay, my job to pay for it.
I don't know if this kid's mine or not.
Better than five years. You only gave me $35.
I didn't give you nothing.
I didn't give you nothing. Your mother gave it to me.
So, you're admitting.
You're saying you have not given any support to the child.
Would I say, all right, we're going to try this relationship.
No, you didn't.
No, you didn't. No, you didn't say that.
You said, what are we going to do?
You got one more time to cut me off
and walk off stage and let you have it.
Okay, guess what, baby.
I'm fine with you. It's nothing.
Obviously, you want your 15 minutes of fame.
No, I want this to be about you stop and saying
that you're not on his feet.
I'm not.
Raymond, I want to know from you.
I asked the man that was in the hospital with you.
So, is that why you have doubts
because of the man that was in the hospital?
That's probably why I wasn't allowed in the hospital
because she knew I was going to get a DNA test in that case.
No, you weren't allowed in the hospital
because you threatened me.
Shorty, I want to ...
What do you mean? Make it make sense, Raymond.
Raymond, do you have feelings for Latoya?
I still got love for her.
Of course.
At the end of the day, she was my best friend, dog.
I was homeless. I was the first ...
You know what her favorite color is?
Shut up.
Shut up. Shut up.
Do you know what she eats every day?
Can you shut up?
No, she's not a counselor, honey.
Can you shut up?
You know she knows how to spell her name?
Yes, I do. Yes, I do.
But can you shut up so I can talk to my mama?
That's not how you talk to a grown-ass woman.
That takes care of her child every day.
That's not how you talk to me.
But I'm not about to keep letting you cut me off.
They sat here and heard what you had to say.
And they're still going to continue to hear me.
They're going to hear me.
You're stopping them from hearing what I have to say.
So, obviously, what I have to say is not important,
just like when you raped me,
just like when I wasn't allowed to go in the hospital,
just like all the other stuff.
My G, you had two men in that crib with that baby,
raising that baby for six to eight months,
and then you want to put the baby on me?
Okay, Raymond.
You said in your tape piece that you don't care
if she's your daughter.
I just want to know because if it is,
I want to do the best I can.
Then stop saying you don't care.
Like I said, at the end of the day,
she wins whether she wins or loses
because if I'm not the dad,
I'm still going to do what I got to do.
No kid needs to be raised without no dad.
At the end of the day, what got me mad is
and what got me upset is the fact
that if this supposed to be my child,
I don't give a damn what we going through.
I went up there with all responsibility
to watch this girl get born.
I watched both my other kids be born.
You stopped me and deprived me
from watching my daughter born supposedly.
Hold on, I did.
This is why though.
No, no, no.
Look how you're acting.
And then you got a whole other man
for three to six months raising my daughter,
and then you got a whole other man
after you break up with him help raise my daughter?
Are you tweaking?
First of all, what you ain't going to do
another man will. Stop playing with me.
And what you going to do another man will.
No, no, no.
This is it. You name your daughter Honesty,
and I think it's time that we get the truth.
Yes. Thank you.
So, LaToya, in this envelope is a DNA truth.
It has been five years that you have wanted to know.
No, let me get that. I want to open it.
No, thank you. Oh, no.
I ain't get the right. Hold on.
Hold on. Wait, wait. Ask a question.
No, no.
If I wasn't allowed to see my daughter get born,
I should be allowed to open up the test results, right?
At the end of the day, we going to wrap it up about this.
Well, then let's open it together.
Oh, negative.
Let's open it together. Negative.
Negative. Your truth open.
Negative. Not mine. Go for it.
It's my truth. It's my truth.
Your truth open. Go for it.
I just want to look. I'm about to go sit.
Yeah, please do. Here you go.
You want me to pull out the chair for you?
No. I want you to touch nothing.
You still look nice, though. I don't care.
You look beautiful. I like your hair.
I want the truth. Things happen. We're grown.
At the end of the day, I can admit my wrongs.
As you've seen, I've been admitting my wrongs.
Ha, ha, ha. Admit it again.
You are the father. Thank you.
Now, guess what? I get to be a dad to my daughter.
That's all I've been wanting. Do that. Do that.
But can I ask one thing?
Can I ask one thing?
Am I going to have to deal with this?
You're going to have to deal with me for the rest of your life.
No, no, no. I'm talking about I am the dad.
This is where it comes in. No, this is where it comes in.
I am the dad. You are the father.
The way you co-parent is going to be based
on the way you communicate with each other.
That's what I'm asking. Yes.
But that's going to be. That's my question.
So the only person, you can't ask her if she's going to,
is you got to only control your own actions.
I am. Let's be. I will tell you this.
You need to be honest with yourself.
There's no relationship here.
And even sweet talking to her and saying those things.
It's not. It's not. I just want to know
if we're going to be able to co-parent like a daughter.
Well, I think from this point on,
I think, again, this is why this is important about your actions.
Because for five years, she has been the sole parent.
For five years, your mother has stepped in
in a place where you have not been.
And I understand that you had doubts.
And I understand that those doubts were not confirmed.
And so, therefore, you felt like,
these are actions I got to take.
But at this point here,
it's based on what you're going to do from here on out.
Yeah, I'm going to be a father.
She showed up. She's been there.
So now you have to be honest with yourself and say,
you know what, I can't involve you.
I can't talk about you. I can't say sweet things or mean things.
At the end of the day, I didn't want to deal with attitude,
heartache, none of that.
She knows what I've been through with my child's mom.
She knows. And you're putting me through it again.
Negative. What's making me upset is that we were friends at first.
You know what I mean? We were friends.
I never lied to him about anything. I never lied to him.
So why I'm not going to step around and pin a baby on a man
if I'm not for sure. I know who I was intimate with.
Nobody else knew but me, that room, and you.
But I didn't know. I didn't know.
I didn't know. You gave me all the reasons to have doubts.
What reasons? And I hate to say this.
Hold on. We're not going to go rehash that.
I hate to say this.
This is what I mean for you. This is where rehashing that,
because I understand you have your feelings,
is going to cause you to be in this cycle
where you two are arguing.
I'm not arguing with her, bro. Look, look.
Well, I'm watching you argue with her.
I'm watching you rehash and defend actions.
Yeah, I'm going to defend myself.
Karama, I don't care what you say. I'm going to defend myself.
But at the end of the day, I want her to know
that I'm still going to try to make it right.
That's all. That's all I have.
That's all I have. That's all I want.
I wish you all the best of luck, Latoya.
I'm happy you got your answer.
Raymond, I'm happy that you got your answer as well.
And I really hope that the communication
can stay in the present and not in the past.
We're honestly safe. All right?
All right, everyone. Stay with us, friends.
We'll be right back with more.
