Three Telescopes Discover HUGE Blackholes. ๐ฒ๐ค๐ฅฐ๐๐๐โญ๏ธ๐๐ ๐๐ช๐ณ

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It is 3 of them. The Hubble, Euclid and the Roman Telescopes that discovered the ancient super sized black holes. It was discovered that it wasn't stars but gas bubbles that collapsed upon itself.
Here's the article from Space Dot Com that we used.
https://www.space.com/astronomy/how-the-james-webb-euclid-and-roman-space-telescopes-could-team-up-to-hunt-supermassive-black-holes-from-the-dawn-of-time
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Well, now.
Always remember,
Super Dave Bistula,
the tall, white,
gothic, vampire
alien.
Coming to you from, uh, Tim Hortons.
The one, you know,
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and, uh, Carrefour.
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Chamonix Laval.
Where we're bordering.
We're going close to St. Robert's.
Super Dave Bistula
of Laval, Quebec, Canada.
So, according to this, uh,
article
in Space.com.
Space.
Final Frontier.
Um, Roman,
Euclid,
and, um,
the J.S., uh,
the James Webb,
JW,
James Webb Telescope.
They've discovered super
black holes.
I've seen them in my travels
when I came to Earth.
As I was slowly coming to Earth.
And they're massive.
Huge.
I don't know what else to say.
You see,
even if our universe
is finite.
And it's part of a multiverse.
Um, it's
huge is not even
the word. Whoops.
Who knows
how many billions
of light years our, uh,
our galaxy
is.
Let alone
the entire universe.
Maybe it is a circle.
Maybe it's round.
Or maybe it's flat.
We're not sure. I'm not gonna say
anything. I don't, uh, want to
in this debate. Neither does my
digital host, David, who's gonna read
from Space.com.
At any rate, you'll probably find
this fascinating.
David? Yeah,
SuperDavid, you've probably showed me a couple of things.
You've taken me up
a couple of times.
Jesus Christ.
I don't know what to say.
So,
the only thing I'm gonna say is
I'm gonna reduce myself to a little blip
and read from Space.com.
So here goes nothing.
So, we have some
notifications while we're at it.
Menu.
Camera. Hi there.
And you'll probably like
the design of, uh,
our, uh, so
Space.com.
How the James Webb
Euclid, which is
a European telescope.
Roman.
It's for something. You'll
see what it is. Space
telescopes could team
up to hunt
down supermassive black holes
from the dawn of time.
And you'll see
that some of these have not been
made by fallen stars, but things
that formed fallen stars.
Let's put on
our reading glasses.
We were, by
Robert Leah, or
Robert Lee. Did I pronounce that?
Published, uh, September
5th, 2025.
We were amazed
by the fact that these
observatories can detect
about 100 black holes.
Just 215
million years
after the Big Bang.
Big Bang? Or
was it creation?
Because, uh,
there's a theory,
maybe some of it might be
pseudoscience, about Big
Bang, compared to
religion. I'm not going to get
into it. But I'm not an
atheist. But you're talking to somebody who's not an
atheist. That's for sure.
Something had to create it.
Or something had to create the Big Bang.
It doesn't just happen
spontaneously by itself.
But I'm not here to, uh,
to, uh, as your decision
to make. Just letting you know
what I believe. In small,
in as small a way as possible.
Who knows?
Such detections would greatly
help to constrain black hole formation
models and provide an
unprecedented view of the
early universe.
Let's see.
I guess these are the three telescopes
and there's the, uh, black hole.
Kind of looks like a
gateway to something. I don't know if it's leading to
heaven or to, uh,
new research suggests that
three space telescopes
could form a powerful triad
capable of searching from
supermassive black holes
earlier in the, earlier
in the history of, uh, the cosmos
than ever detected before.
So early black holes
that turned into super
massive black holes.
If the James Webb
Space Telescope, JWST,
JWST,
the Euclid telescope
and NASA's upcoming
Nancy Grace Roman Space
Telescope, Roman,
can detect black holes
with masses of, uh,
masses 20 or, or
groups of masses
millions or billions
of times higher, higher
than that of the sun
when the universe was less than
270 and 70 million
years old. It would change our view
of cosmic evolution.
Such a detection
would, uh, could also solve
a dilemma that one of these, uh,
telescopes revealed to
astronomers.
Probably there was a civilization
before Adam.
Could have been, um,
Galileo before he fell?
I'm just saying.
You know who Hillel is.
Ben Shekar.
You know, Lucifer.
Until we've gone
a little, uh, until we've gone
too arrogant. Okay.
So, since it began operations
in 2022, the JWST
has been detecting
super massive black holes that
existed, that exist when
universe, uh, when the universe
was less than 1 billion years old
with the most ancient example
being the black hole
Jade's GS
Z14
0. Now, Jade's
dash
GS dash Z14
dash 0.
This is problematic because using
the models that existed
prior to 2022,
super massive black holes
should take at least 1 billion years
to reach the super massive
status via
mergers and the conceptions
of matter. This has led
to the proposal of
alternative models
of black holes
that could
allow these cosmic titans
to get a head start in growth
terms.
Okay, so we're gonna see
how they formed.
But
this could still
this could still all be theory
because we're not sure.
There's still new things that have to be
discovered. When you follow
the science, there's always a question
afterwards. Wait a minute.
And there's something that
disrupts your theory.
Just remember that for
COVID. Follow the science?
Don't. Don't
virtue signal.
This proves it right here.
Just wanted to put that in
sometimes.
Supermassive black
holes forming at later times
have more time to grow
through accretion
and mergers. And these
processes erase
their birth signatures.
Researcher
author Mohammed A. Latif
Latif
of the United Arab
Emirates University told
space.com
Supermassive black
holes forming at such an early
age suggests that they were born
that they were born massive.
One possible scenario
that would allow supermassive
black holes to grow so large
so rapidly suggests that instead
of early
black holes forming
when the first generation of massive
stars died, they formed
directly when vast
overdense patches of
cosmic gas and dust
collapsed.
That would be it.
Before they formed stars,
they just...
And then it becomes the biggest
vacuum possible.
But where does it lead to?
Models
of BH formation
suggest that under
certain conditions
such as dense cold streams of
gas, halo mergers
or intense
ultraviolet radiation
bombardment, gas clouds
can catastrophically collapse
into massive black holes
without forming normal
stars, Latif explains.
Interesting.
Fascinating.
This model is known as the direct
collapse scenario, and massive
black holes are born with masses
of
10,000 to 100,000
times the mass of our sun.
Holy ----.
So our sun is absolutely
far and absolutely nothing,
and that is pretty well massive.
At least compared to most of the
planets in our solar system.
The only planet that
could almost match it
is Jupiter, or rather
Zeus.
Hmm.
But how did Helios get so big?
I think that's a bad way
to put it.
That's a supermassive black hole
forming over there.
By cutting out stellar middle
man,
this direct collapse
scenario would see black holes
be formed before the first stars
die, vastly cutting
the time needed
to grow.
Additionally, it removes the mass
restrictions on these first
black holes, restrictions that were
imposed on other theories
by the
fact that black holes can only
be as massive as the core
of the most
massive stars.
Hmm.
They were about to grow into huge stars
or huge suns, but
whoosh!
They contracted on themselves.
This means that the merger
process that
leads to the creation of super
massive black holes
could begin with so-called
heavy-seed black holes
caused by
directly by collapsing gas
and dust.
More massive than any stellar
mass of black holes created by
dying stars
could ever be.
Because they were probably going to be huge
stars.
Bigger than our
sun, if they didn't collapse.
Direct collapse
black holes at earlier times
can further grow by
accreting the material
from their surroundings.
While black holes forming at
later times do not
have
much fuel to grow,
Latif explains.
Latif added.
However, if this direct
collapse scenario is right, Latif
and co-author
Daniel Whelan of the
University of Portsmouth
suggest that the
direct collapse of
gas and dust could have birthed
direct collapse black holes
as early as
170 to 180
million years after the
Big Bang.
Big Bang? It's the chicken or the egg.
Thus, we should
be able to find the supermassive
black holes even earlier
than the 290 million
years after the Big Bang.
In other words,
at redshifts of Z
equals 15 or greater.
Okay, I would have
to learn either
chemistry or physics for that.
I know some chemistry and some
physics, but
not a whole lot to figure that one out.
But anyways, let's just
move on.
Detecting a supermassive
black hole at Z
equals 15 would tell us about
the origin of supermassive
black holes, Latif explains.
It would mean that the black holes
are born massive
with masses mentioned above
and would almost rule out their
stellar origin
when formed from stars.
Okay.
I guess the big chicken
was born before the egg.
What can I say?
How Roman and Euclid
could point the JWST
in the right direction.
So if those
early direct collapsed
black holes are out there,
why hasn't the JWST
spotted them?
It certainly isn't
because it lacks the
observing power.
Maybe the $10 billion
space telescope
just needs help from space telescopes
with a wider focus.
Hmm.
I guess we need three instead of one.
In principle, JWST
can observe such black holes,
but the area of the sky
JWST
is probing
much smaller
than the upcoming Roman telescope
and Euclid, Latif said.
Their synergy
is key to studying
the supermassive black holes
at early times.
Roman and Euclid
have fields of view
that are 100 times
wider than that of
the JWST and therefore
can detect
more early black holes.
Hmm.
I guess the
JWST is becoming
a little bit obsolete
unless they improve upon it.
The high resolution
of the JWST
can help detailed
structures of black hole
host galaxies
and confirm
their presence by
performing
spectroscopy.
Oh boy!
Such observations
will give us a detailed picture
of how and under what conditions
black holes form
and grow.
Imagine falling into those.
You'd probably be gone to
God knows where.
The three telescopes
are all capable of observing
the universe in infrared
wavelengths of light, meaning
they complement each other
in that respect too.
Oh, okay.
So they have to work together.
Basically as a trio.
The team performs
simulations of synergy between
the JWST, Euclid
and Roman and was impressed
by the effectiveness of this
telescope triple threat.
Real.
Amazing.
Fascinating.
As Mr. Spock
would have said.
We were amazed by the fact
that these observatories
can detect
about 100 black holes
in just 250
million years
after the Big Bang.
Such detection
would greatly help to constrain
black hole formation
models and provide
an unprecedented view
of an early universe.
Latif explained that
in the near future
he and Waylon
intend to run simulations
that track the growth history
of the early
direct collapsed
black holes after their birth.
Fascinating. I hope they do.
They're gonna have
to do a lot of
calculations for that.
Having such detailed growth
history, we can
make better predictions for Roman,
Euclid and JWST
now, including now
including how massive
these black holes can become and how many
of them can be detected
with the upcoming surveys
Latif concluded.
The team's research is available
on the website of the
University of Portsmouth.
Okay, whatever.
I guess that's it.
So we'll just close this.
And we'll close that.
Oh, we'll just
close this.
And there you have it in a nutshell.
What can I say? Those super massive
black holes.
If you thought the regular black hole
was something,
these ones are scary.
Are they
doorways to other dimensions?
And what kind of
dimension would it be?
You know what I'm talking about. But what if it's something
else altogether?
I guess if it's creation
in Bali made it that way.
I wonder if it was early
civilizations back then.
But then again, I've heard that
early civilization
pre-Adamic.
What can I say?
Anyways, that's it.
Super Dave. Conclude.
Close it off.
Even our advanced
civilization
we're still confused.
We're trying to make calculations as well.
Do not forget
this universe.
Massive.
Massive. Massive.
So if you see a super massive
black hole that's
been around
since the early days of the universe
more than
a billion years ago.
What can I say?
Oops.
Anyways, at this point I'll bid you
adieu. Au revoir.
Adios.
Hasta maรฑana. Hasta luego.
Arrivederci.
Shalom. Sayonara.
Sayonara.
Au revoir.
Adios.
Au revoir.
Muchas gracias.
The only thing to say is
may the force be with you
or may the
schwarz be with you.
In something so massive
it turns me to
you know.
Or, live long and prosper.
That's it.
Or, good luck.
If you saw Star Trek
in a movie, you'd understand.
Anyways, that's it.
Thank you very much.
