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>> So, uh me and my wife were newly wed,
been married, got married, u February
14th.
>> Congrats.
>> Our little Valentine's Day wedding.
>> Nice.
>> Yeah. Yeah, it was it was good. Um we've
been together a total of about three and
a half years. Uh, we've been we got our
own apartment about a little about two
years ago and our mother-in-law, well,
she wasn't my mother-in-law at first,
but she decid she offered to help us
with rent. Um, so we took her up on an
offer and everything was going good
until we got married. Uh couple of
months after we got married, she started
harassing my wife like through text
message like just all kinds of just mean
and dirty just vile things just like um
just mean things. And then um
>> that's fun.
>> So she uh we basically decided to just
you know um kind of just decline her
help because she was um kind of putting
stipulations on it. Like one she called
and said, "If you want our rent, if you
want my half of the rent this month, you
have to prove to me XYZ." Which was no
problem because we proved it to her. But
it would that, you know, it was just
like out of nowhere, you know.
>> Well, she out of nowhere started
harassing her own daughter. This woman's
cray cray.
>> Yes.
>> Did you know she was crazy before you
married?
>> Yes.
>> Well, what are you Okay, quick life
lesson.
>> I tried. Don't ever, ever, ever
fight your instinct on relationship
stuff with family members because if the
crazy is in the family, there's more
crazy is going to show up. So, let's
let's move forward on this and
>> put up a boundary. Put up a boundary.
She can't Yeah.
>> Yes. We our boundary was blocking her.
>> Um, so that was that that's that. But
ever since ever and before before we
decided to um stop taking her help. We
were doing great with staying up on
staying our bills were paid on time.
Everything was good.
>> Um but we didn't save we didn't save
anything. My wife was saying, "Hey, we
need to save." But
>> me being bad with money. We made I made
very bad decisions and we ended up in a
situation where we didn't have any we
weren't ready for this situation that we
were in.
>> You weren't ready for it. Period.
Because I I just want to rewind real
quick. You got you've said twice now
that you guys were great
>> at paying everything while she was
giving you money, which means you were
never great because you didn't have
enough money to pay your bills. So,
exactly. Exactly.
>> All right. So, where do we stand today?
Her money's gone. Thank goodness. How
short are you?
>> Okay. So, we are paying the rent, but we
are late every month. So, every check
we're we're coming up with like we're
catching up. So this next first of the
month we're going to be short. The next
we'll catch up.
>> Okay. How much how much do you guys make
per month? What do you both bring in?
>> We
between us we bring probably oh I don't
know the amount between us I just did
the yearly. Um the yearly between both
of us is 50k.
>> Between the both of you is 50k.
>> Yes.
>> What do you guys do for a living?
Uh, I do aerospace manufacturing and
she's a barista in a hotel.
>> Okay. I love that you said you do
aerospace manufacturing, but let's get
real. What is your job? You're only
making $25,000 a year average between
the two of you. What are you doing?
>> I I do I do debur the burring, which is
like the lowest. I am currently um in
training. Like I do have CNC experience.
I'm in training like within the next
year. I do plan on moving up. I'm in the
process of moving up to to CNC position.
How much would you make will come with a
raise? Um, probably about $2 or $3 more.
Probably about 25 at 28 at the max. I'm
guessing
>> that's after, you know, I get some
schooling and more training.
>> How old are you guys in the process?
>> I am 39. We're both 39.
>> Okay.
>> 39. And you guys, you don't even know
what you make. So, it's really hard for
Rachel to coach you up on You don't even
know how much you make. You've just
given us We got a $50,000 figure here.
So, what debt?
>> Here, here's what Here's what's got to
happen, Leo. I'm gonna be really honest
with you, okay? If Ken and I were out to
drinks with you and your and your
newlywed wife,
>> this is what we would This is This is
what I would say to you.
>> Cocktail wisdom. Here it comes.
>> I would say everything you've known and
thought and done with money, we're going
to do the complete opposite.
>> Good decision.
>> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> Meaning, you don't really know where
your money's going. You don't really
know how much you make or bring in a
month. That's going to change. You're
going to know to the scent because you
are going to be so detailed, so intense,
so OCD about your money and where every
dollar is going that you're going to be
able to rattle off what you guys spend
at the grocery store every week, okay?
Because you guys are going to have a
very, very detailed budget. And we're
going to give you some stuff, Leo, to
help you help this happen, okay?
>> But that's the thing.
>> We've been trying to
>> Well, and and I'm gonna be honest, too,
Leo. you guys, you know, your jobs, what
you're making, you guys need to be
making double. So, she's working as a
barista.
>> If I were her, I would be applying to be
a receptionist somewhere, right? Go be
an assistant to someone like
>> go, you have to be in this position cuz
you're both adults now and and if you
want to have a family and you guys want
to, you know, extend your lives, these
incomes have to go up, which means
probably a change of career, probably
more for her. Yours sounds like it
hopefully has some.
>> It's taking off. It's taking off.
>> She has kids. So, we already have kids
in the like They're her kids. They're my
stepkids.
>> Okay.
>> Um, so we their kids are definitely in
the they're not full-time with us.
>> All right. Leo. Leo. Leo. Leo.
>> It's It's a Okay. Yeah.
>> Hold on. We have limited. No, no, you're
great. We're trying to help you. How
much do you make per hour? Do you know
that?
>> I make $21 an hour.
>> Okay. So a year from now you think or
believe you're going to get a2 to3 an
hour raise.
>> Yes.
>> That's not that's not a career that's
Yeah. But that's not a career that's
taken off.
>> Yes.
>> You're not taking off. You're on the
doorstep of 40.
>> And And you've got to get serious. I'm
not beating up on you. I'm just going,
dude. Like you you've got to have a plan
that moves you forward. not a year from
now to a $2 to $3 raise.
>> Okay. Same thing with So, we need to
collectively get together and say, "What
do we want for our lives? What's a
target?"
>> Exactly.
>> What must be true for us to make
$100,000
>> combined?
>> You guys listen, time is moving, bro.
>> Yes, you're right. You're right. You're
right.
>> We don't have time at 39 to wait a year
to make a$2 to3 bump. and Leo, what do
you guys owe on your cars? What do y'all
own on your cars?
>> Uh, so, okay, so I own my vehicle that I
just purchased under a year ago, but
it's giving me issues. So, getting a
second job has been it's a possibility,
but just having
>> No, no, no, no. See, that's the problem.
>> What is What What does she What does she
owe on hers?
>> Her she owes 1,500 on her car.
>> Okay. Okay. Okay. What uh what other
debt do you guys have? Credit card. We
have
>> 1,500 credit total is what she owes.
That's what's left on her loan for her
car.
>> Yes. Great. Yes. Great. Great. Great.
>> Our debt and credit is all we only have
our credit card debt, which is $8,000.
>> Okay. Okay. Okay. So, tonight
>> and that's all our debt.
>> All your debt. That's great. That's
awesome. Okay. So, I would cut up the
credit cards. Don't even make it a
temptation. Your goal for next year have
a balance on our credit card.
>> Well, that's great. We'll cut them up
anyways. I don't Well, you have a
balance. You got $8,000.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean like we don't have
anything available to to spend on it. So
you're right. Like
>> Oh, it's maxed out. Okay, perfect.
>> You say that like that's a good thing.
Can I just say you don't
>> It's not a good thing. It's not a good
thing. I'm embarrassed about it.
>> No. Okay. So, no, you're do this is
great. Okay. So, here's what I want you
to do when you get off this call. Okay.
You both need to apply for second jobs.
Your goal is to get a $1,000 emergency
fund. Okay. In the next 60 days, 30
days, 40 days, and catching up on rent.
Those are your two goals, emergency fund
and catching up on rent. With the second
job should should help free up some of
that cash. And then once that happens,
you guys start paying off this debt.
Smallest to largest, the car and then
the credit cards. You can do this, Leo.
Stay on the line. Kelly's going to pick
up. We'll give you some stuff.
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