President Trump and British PM Keir Starmer hold a joint news conference — 9/18/2025

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President Donald Trump and U.K. PM Keir Starmer hold a joint news conference on Thursday following a business reception.
Trump on Thursday left Windsor Castle — where he and his wife Melania received the royal treatment — to head to Chequers, the official country residence of Prime Minister Keir Starmer.
The two leaders engaged in trade and geopolitical talks, as well as meeting with delegations from the U.K. and U.S..
Mr. President, it's a pleasure to welcome you to Chequers.
This historic second state visit is a moment to celebrate the unique bond between our two
countries.
But today we've gone far beyond that.
We've renewed the special relationship for a new era.
The United Kingdom and the United States stand together today as first partners on defense,
first partners in trade, with the groundbreaking deal we struck in May, and now with the new
agreement that we've just signed this afternoon, we're confirming our status as the first partners
in science and technology, ready to define this century together just as we did the last.
This tech partnership has the power to change lives.
It's our chance to ensure that technologies like AI, quantum, and others amplify human potential,
solve problems, cure diseases, make us richer and freer, strengthen the cause of democracy,
not tyranny.
This is the territory on which the future will be won.
So this partnership today is a signal of our determination to win this race together and to ensure
it brings real benefits in jobs, in growth, in lower bills, to put more hard-earned cash in people's
pockets at the end of each month.
That's what we're determined to deliver.
And we're bringing businesses with us.
We've just come from a fantastic meeting with business leaders where we set out this vision.
They have responded with new deals and investments, breaking every record that we have.
£250 billion flowing both ways across the Atlantic.
That is a record.
Expected to create 15,000 jobs here in the United Kingdom.
High-skilled jobs in cutting-edge sectors where people can build careers for the long term.
Changing lives and communities up and down our country.
And look, while we shape this bond for a new era, the fundamentals have not changed.
Security remains the cornerstone of this special relationship.
We have the deepest, most advanced defence relationship in the world.
Our warriors train together and they fight together.
Our industries build together.
Everything from fast jets to the new Orcas-class submarines.
So now, as we drive up defence spending, we're going to sweep away the barriers
to working together on new defence technologies.
So we can stay ahead of our adversaries.
We're united in defence and security.
Yes, absolutely.
But we're also united in the pursuit of peace.
We are working together to end the humanitarian catastrophe in the Middle East.
Get the aid in.
Free the hostages.
And ultimately, bring Israel and the region back towards a comprehensive plan
which can deliver peace and security for Israelis and Palestinians alike.
We're also working together to end the killing in Ukraine.
In recent days, Putin has shown his true face.
Mounting the biggest attack since the evasion began.
With yet more bloodshed, yet more innocents killed,
and unprecedented violations of NATO airspace.
These are not the actions of someone who wants peace.
So we've discussed today how we can build our defences further,
support Ukraine, and decisively increase the pressure on Putin
to get him to agree a peace deal that will last.
And President Trump, you have led the way here.
And we will continue to stand and work together for security and for peace.
Mr President, next year we'll celebrate the 250th anniversary of the United States.
We've come on a long journey together since 1776.
But it's no exaggeration to say that the partnership our two nations have built
has shaped the world from the beaches of Normandy
to the founding of NATO,
to the creation of technologies that have revolutionised our lives.
Time and time again, it is British and American men and women,
side by side, changing the path of history
and turning it towards our values,
towards freedom, democracy, and the rule of law.
In Britain, we take huge pride in that.
And let's be clear, this relationship is not just about history,
it's about the future.
It's about the benefits it delivers now and for decades to come,
to make our people safer and better off.
We've shown today that we're delivering those benefits, improving people's lives,
so we will go into that anniversary year more optimistic than ever,
and more confident than ever,
about our two great nations and what they can achieve,
side by side.
Thank you.
And it is now my pleasure to give the floor to Mr President Trump.
Thank you very much.
Prime Minister Starmer, Melania and I are tremendously thankful
for the wonderful hospitality that you and Lady Starmer have extended today
at Chequers, quite the place, I must say, quite the place.
And we're grateful beyond words for the spectacular honour
of the state visit yesterday at Windsor Castle,
hosted by His Majesty King Charles III and Her Majesty Queen Camilla.
These are two fantastic people.
We will never forget it.
As I said last night, the bond between our countries
is like no other anywhere in the world.
The United States and the United Kingdom have done more good on this planet
than any two nations in human history.
That is thanks in large part to the traditions of British liberty
which grew up on these isles, these beautiful, magnificent isles,
and were carried by our ancestors to the New World,
we are forever joined and we are forever friends
and we will always be friends.
This enduring connection is why I was thrilled
that the United Kingdom was the very first country
with which we made a historic trade deal and a very good trade deal.
He's a tough negotiator.
I think it was a better deal for you than us, but these are minor details.
It's a very good deal for both of us.
He is a great negotiator.
We will extend our unparalleled security alliance
into the realm of economic security for the first time,
and I look forward to finalizing it very soon.
We'll have it done very quickly.
We have also just signed a historic technology prosperity deal,
one of a kind, to ensure our countries lead
the next great technological revolution side by side.
In fact, we just left the business leaders, the biggest in the world.
Some are in this room right now.
And that was quite a meeting we had on business and trade and technology.
This trip has galvanized $350 billion in deals across many sectors,
and we're committed to ensuring that the UK
has a secure and reliable supply of the best AI hardware and software on Earth.
And we supply that and we'll make sure we supply it in quantity to the UK.
We also are joining forces on quantum computing and nuclear power,
a natural partnership for close allies.
The United States, as you probably have heard,
is doing better than it has ever done in terms of business and investment.
The stock market has hit a new high, as you know,
and that's for many, many days out of our fairly short eight months.
And we seem to be hitting new highs,
and I think we're going to do much better even as time goes by.
Jobs are at a record.
And most importantly, we have more than $17 trillion.
$17 trillion.
And this is during an eight-month period being invested in a country
which is not only a record, but if you compare $17 trillion
to the last year of the Biden administration,
they did $250 billion.
They didn't do $1 trillion for the four-year period.
We did $17 trillion of investment coming in.
A lot of it's because of tariffs and a lot of it's for a lot of other reasons,
but there's never been anything like it.
It's an economic superstar.
That's what's become mismanaged and badly handled
for a long period of time, but it's not badly handled anymore.
So that's a record.
And remember, that's up until eight months.
We have another few months to go,
and that number is going to get significantly higher,
especially if we win a certain case that we're waiting to hear.
That will be something like the world has never seen.
I want to congratulate the United Kingdom on making the vital commitment
to spend 5% of GDP on defense at the NATO summit this year.
We've worked together very closely in so many ways.
I'm very honored to tell you that we've solved seven wars.
Seven wars.
Wars that were unsolvable.
Wars that couldn't be negotiated or done.
We've done...
The U.S. has done seven of them.
The one that I thought would be easiest would be
because of my relationship with President Putin,
but he's let me down.
He's really let me down.
It was going to be Russia and Ukraine,
but we'll see how that turns out.
But that turned out to be...
I thought it might be among the easiest of the group,
but we have settled just about every conflict.
And as you know, we're working very hard on Israel and Gaza.
Oh, that's happening over there.
Complex, but it's going to be...
It's going to get done.
It'll all get done right.
And likewise, Russia and Ukraine will get done.
But it's...
You never know in war.
You know, war is a different thing.
Things happen that are very opposite of what you thought.
You thought you were going to have an easy time or a hard time,
and it turns out to be the reverse.
As we saw in the unforgettable parade yesterday at Windsor Castle,
what a place it is the British Armed Forces carry on.
One of the finest military traditions in the world.
One of the greatest marching bands.
One of the most magnificent sights I've seen.
I know that our service members look forward,
and we do look so forward,
to working even more closely with yours
as you push toward that 5% goal.
And I think, Mr. Prime Minister, you're just about there.
You're going to be there very quickly,
along with a lot of other great countries.
I want to thank NATO and our wonderful head of NATO,
who's really worked very hard, Mark,
for the job they've done.
And as you know, NATO was at 2% GDP,
and they didn't pay it.
Now they're at 5%, then they pay it.
And we appreciate that.
And we're sending a lot of weapons to NATO.
NATO is paying for those weapons in full.
But we're sending them, and we're doing a great job
at getting them what they need.
And we appreciate the fact that they're taking care of it,
because the United States is into that war for $350 billion.
And it's just really very sad.
They just got out of control.
They didn't know what they were doing.
But over the generations, British and American warriors
have shed their blood side by side
in defense of liberty and freedom.
And that's why it's so imperative that the United States
and the United Kingdom stand together
for these fundamental rights and values
of the English-speaking world.
And we've always stood together, and we will continue to.
Just last week, a great American, Charlie Kirk,
was heinously assassinated for speaking his mind.
He was a great young man.
Incredible future.
Some people said he might be president someday.
I told him.
I said, Charlie, I think you have a good shot
someday at being president.
And he just wanted to take care of youth.
He loved youth.
I've never seen anybody relate to youth like Charlie.
And they related to him, and they're devastated.
But I appreciate the many British citizens
who have offered their condolences.
And again, Charlie was a great person.
We'll be going out to a service on Sunday.
I'll be leaving some of the people in this room
just to celebrate Charlie and all that he's done.
So incredible.
Never seen anything like it.
But I hope that together, our nations can lead a movement
to defend the glorious traditions of freedom
on both sides of the Atlantic.
There could be no greater tribute
to the immortal bonds of affection and loyalty
that unite the British and the American people
for all of time.
We have a relationship like no other.
It will always be that way.
We will always be united.
We'll always be together.
And I just want to thank you, Mr. Prime Minister,
for the great job I think you're doing.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Thank you very much, Mr. President.
We're going to take some questions.
I'll call two or three to start with,
and then I'll pass over to the President.
I've got Chris Mason from the BBC first.
Chris.
Thank you, Ben.
Chris Mason, BBC News.
Mr. President, the UK is expected to recognize
a Palestinian state in the coming days
as the killing in Gaza continues.
It often seems that you're the only person
that Israel will listen to.
What more can you say to them to tell them to stop?
And why is the UK's position on a Palestinian state,
in your view, wrong?
And, Prime Minister, what will the recognition
of a Palestinian state actually achieve?
Is it not just gesture politics
to appease people in your own party?
Thank you, Ben.
Well, Chris, let me just start with that
because we discussed this amongst other things.
We had the best part of an hour, I think,
upstairs earlier today, just one-to-one,
going through a number of affairs,
world affairs, in private.
And we absolutely agree on the need
for peace and a roadmap
because the situation in Gaza is intolerable.
The hostages have been held for a very, very long time
and they must be freed.
And we need aid to get into Gaza at speed.
And so it's within that context of a plan for peace
which we're working hard on,
which not only did we discuss this morning,
but our two teams have been working together on,
the question of recognition needs to be seen.
And so it's part of that overall package
which hopefully takes us
from the appalling situation we're in now
to the outcome of a safe and secure Israel,
which we do not have,
and a viable Palestinian state.
Thank you.
Well, simply, I want the hostages released now,
right now, not one, two.
We'll give you three more tomorrow.
And, you know, like it's been.
But we're the ones that got all the hostages released.
We got many, many.
They came, many came to the Oval Office
and I've heard stories like I've never thought even possible.
There was no humanity, no anything.
I said to them, I said,
was there any warmth shown during this stay?
Like they offered you a little extra meal.
They gave you a little smile
and they said, don't worry, you'll be okay.
And every one of them said, not even a little bit.
Amazing to think that during this stay,
long stay in some cases,
we had a man the other day, 451 days he was there.
I always ask that question.
And was there any warmth shown?
Just a little word of encouragement.
And the answer is every time, absolutely not.
I'm shocked to hear it.
Because in the worst cases,
there's always somebody that comes through.
We have to remember October 7th,
one of the worst, most violent days
in the history of the world.
Not just there, the history of the world.
And I got to see the tapes
and I wish I didn't see them, actually.
But I got to see them.
And I want an end.
I want the hostages released.
And I think it's going to be okay.
But it has been a brutal period of time.
But this has been going on for a long time.
This is not something that's over the last year, two years.
This has been for decades and decades.
But we want it to end.
We have to have the hostages back immediately.
That's what the people of Israel want.
They want them back.
And we want the fighting to stop.
And it's going to stop.
But a lot of bad things.
You know, Hamas said that they're going
to put the hostages up as bait.
They're going to put the hostages
in front of any attack.
And that's pretty brutal.
We haven't heard that one in a long time.
So we have to remember that.
So I have a disagreement with the Prime Minister
on that score.
One of our few disagreements, actually.
Great.
Can I take Jack from The Sun?
Jack.
Thank you both.
Jack Allison from The Sun.
Mr. President, in the nine months you've been in office,
you've been incredibly successful in all
but eliminating crossings on your southern border.
Yeah.
Meanwhile, illegal migration is at record levels in Britain.
The Prime Minister is trying to tackle that.
What advice would you give to the man standing next
to you on trying to stop illegal migration in Britain?
And, Prime Minister, if I can just ask,
the President is all about drill, baby, drill
in terms of trying to secure American energy
and cut bills for Americans.
Meanwhile, you are turning Britain's back
on oil and gas in favor of renewable energies,
such as wind turbines.
Why do you think that you are right and he is wrong?
So we had millions of people flowing in,
totally unchecked, totally unvetted
from the Biden administration.
25 million, in my opinion, that would be about.
25 million, they came from prisons.
They came from mental institutions.
They were gang members.
They were drug dealers.
They came from the Congo.
They came from all parts of South America.
They came from everywhere.
Think of it.
Prisons from the Congo being released
into the United States.
Prisons opened up in Venezuela and many other countries,
pouring into the United States.
And I couldn't believe it.
One of the reasons I decided to run.
And I decided to run because I don't want
to be controversial.
You see what's happened and you see all the information
that's come out.
We won in 2020 big.
And I said, let's run.
We got to run.
Because I saw what was happening.
And the worst thing that I saw was all of these people.
You know, we've already solved inflation.
We've solved prices.
Oil is way down.
Energy is way down in the United States.
But what I saw happening with millions of people
pouring into our country, I couldn't stand
to watch it.
And we've done a great job.
Nobody, if you've seen the last.
I appreciate your question, by the way.
Nobody.
Absolutely zero.
And I'm not even sure that's possible.
But it's a very liberal group that come out
with those statistics.
The last three months, we had zero.
From millions of people a year ago,
we had zero people enter our country illegally.
And we do have people coming in legally
through a legal process and testing
and lots of other things.
I think it's very important.
And we speak about it.
And I think your situation is very similar.
You know, you have people coming in.
And I told the Prime Minister I would stop it.
And it doesn't matter if you call out the military.
It doesn't matter what means you use.
But it's going to destroy.
It destroys countries from within.
And we're actually now removing a lot of the people
that came into our country.
It's a very hard chore.
It's a very — we were given a very, very bad hand.
Millions of people came in from prisons
and mental institutions.
We have to remove them.
And we are removing them.
We have no choice.
And I feel very strongly about it.
Thank you very much.
Prime Minister Morrison.
Jack, let me just deal with the question of returns
because this is obviously an issue we're taking
incredibly seriously.
We've struck a number of deals both on cooperation
with other countries, because this is a problem
right across Europe, to tackle the problem
of actually breaking up the gangs that are running
this trade.
We have had a record number of returns,
over 35,000 now, since we came into office.
That's the highest number for the best part
of 10 years.
We struck the returns arrangement with France.
And notwithstanding the challenges to that scheme,
which you've seen in the last few days,
a flight went off at 6.15 this morning,
successfully returning someone under that scheme.
So that is an important step forward.
Obviously, there's no silver bullet here.
There's a range of things that need to be done.
But given the challenges of returning people,
it is important that we're able to prove
it can be done.
It was done.
It was done early this morning.
So I can confirm that that flight went.
It went successfully.
And I'm pleased about that.
Now we need to ramp that up at scale,
which was always envisaged under the scheme.
But it's very important that we have been able
to prove the proof of concept, if you like,
that this can be done.
And we'll continue in that way.
On the question of energy, firstly,
let me be really clear that I am absolutely determined
to ensure that the price and cost of energy comes down,
so that bills come down both for individuals,
for families with their household bills,
but also for business, because this is so important.
The mix will include oil and gas for many years
to come from the North Sea.
We've been clear about that for some time.
But we also need to mix that with renewables.
And it's the mix that's really important.
And the approach I've taken on this
is the same approach that I take for many other things,
a pragmatic approach.
Thank you, Jack.
I would like to say that we inherited the worst
inflation in the history of our country.
We had inflation the likes of which we've really never seen.
They say 48 years, and I'll accept that,
but I really don't.
We had the worst inflation in the history of our country.
And we had an expression that I used a lot,
drill, baby, drill.
And as you know, we brought fuel way down,
prices way down.
And we don't do wind because wind is a disaster.
It's a very expensive joke, frankly.
And we got our energy prices way down.
That brought the inflation way down,
and now we have very little inflation.
And we have a very, very strong economy.
So that was very important.
And drill, baby, drill.
And you have a great asset here.
We spoke about it.
It's called the North Sea.
The North Sea oil is phenomenal.
And I hope, because I love this country, you know.
My mother was born in Scotland.
And the Hebrides, Stornoway, that's serious Scotland.
We were talking about it.
And I want this country to do well.
And you have great assets that you're going to start using,
I believe, under this Prime Minister.
Thank you.
And I've got Matthew from The Economist.
Thank you, Prime Minister.
Mr. President, you say that President Putin
has let you down.
Have negotiations run out of road?
And what are your next steps to compel an end to this war?
Well, he has let me down.
I mean, he's killing many people,
and he's losing more people than he's, you know,
than he's killing.
I mean, frankly, the Russian soldiers
are being killed at a higher rate than the Ukrainian soldiers.
But, yeah, he's let me down.
I don't like to see — it's death.
You know, it doesn't affect the United States.
We have — other than unless you end up in a world war
over this thing, you could.
This was a thing that would have never happened
had I been President.
If I were President, it would have never happened.
And it didn't happen for four years.
People — most people agree it didn't happen,
nor was it close to happening.
And I spoke to President Putin about Ukraine.
It was the apple of his eye.
I've said that many times.
It was.
But he would have never done what he did,
except that he didn't respect the leadership
of the United States.
They just went through the Afghanistan total disaster
for no reason whatsoever.
We're going to leave Afghanistan,
but we're going to leave it with strength and dignity.
We're going to keep Bagram, the big airbase,
one of the biggest airbases in the world.
We gave it to them for nothing.
We're trying to get it back, by the way.
Okay?
That could be a little breaking news.
We're trying to get it back because they need things from us.
We want that base back.
But one of the reasons we want the base is,
as you know, it's an hour away from where China
makes its nuclear weapons.
So, a lot of things are happening.
But I am very disappointed in the fact that that
one is not settled.
To think that we settled Abor, Bajan, and Albania,
as an example.
It was going on for years.
It was never going to be settled.
If you remember, the Prime Minister and the Presidents,
they were there for many years.
They said, when they were in my office, we settled.
And they started off at both sides of the Oval Office,
so far away.
I didn't know you could be so far away.
And as we were together for an hour,
they kept getting closer and closer.
And by the time we finished, we all hugged each other.
And one said, I've been in this position for 22 years,
and all I've done is kill their people.
The other was there for seven years,
and all he did was kill their people.
And we got it settled.
And we did others, as you know.
Congo.
The Congo, we did.
We settled the Congo with Rwanda.
That was going on.
And that was a machete war.
That was a gruesome war.
Many people, close to 10 million people, killed.
We got that.
So my biggest disappointment, but it's, you know, look.
We did seven, and most of them were not
thought to be settlable.
We did India, and we did Pakistan.
That's two nuclear — that was purely for trade.
You want to trade with us, you're going to have to get along.
And they were going at it hot and heavy.
But the Russia situation, I hope we're going to have
some good news for you coming up.
But again, it doesn't affect the United States.
And he — look, it doesn't so much affect you.
Of course, you are a lot closer to the scene than we are.
We have a whole ocean separating us.
But I will say this.
It's — millions of people have died in that war.
Millions of souls.
And they're not American.
They're soldiers, mostly soldiers, as you know.
The soldiers are being killed at levels nobody's seen
since the Second World War.
But they're being killed, and I feel I have an obligation
to get it settled for that reason.
Thank you.
And just to add on that question, because we have
to put extra pressure on Putin.
And it's only when the President has put pressure
on Putin that he's actually shown any inclination
to move.
So we have to ramp that pressure up.
I think it's important to have this conversation
in the context of what's happened in recent weeks.
We saw damage and bombing to the British Council
in Kyiv.
These are targets that it was thought until recently
were not targets that would be hit.
The British Council, the European Union embassy,
the Council of Ministers, where President Zelensky's
ministers' work was hit.
Again, these were thought to be places that wouldn't
be hit.
And then the incursion into Poland last week.
And if you put that together, what you can see
is either an emboldenment or at least an increased
recklessness on Putin's part.
And that's why I said earlier that they're not the
actions of someone who wants peace.
So we have to ramp up.
And we discussed earlier today, we have built the
coalition of the willing with British leadership
and French leadership, stepping up with military
planning in the seas, in the sky, on the ground,
and ramping up what we do with the Ukrainians
themselves.
And, of course, that taken with an American guarantee
is now an example, I think, of the challenge of
Europe stepping up to the plate, which it has done
in the last few months, to show through what we and
the French have done that we're prepared to take
the lead in this and take the necessary measures.
But that's a war that could have been a Third World
War.
And I don't think we're going to be there now.
But that was heading to a Third World War.
And what a shame it is.
What a shame it is.
Mr. President, do you want to call some of the
allies?
I would love to call a few of them.
Bev, do you want to have a question?
Having been in D.C.
for a few weeks, it's really interesting to see
how you run the country as a proud Christian leader.
And it really begs the question to the Prime
Minister, if you don't mind, are we still a
Christian country?
But also —
When you say we, are you talking here or —
Here.
Here?
The U.K.
I'm still British.
I might live in America.
I'd rather have him answer that question.
But also —
I can't give you that answer.
That's for the Prime Minister.
But also, despite what we talked about in Scotland
a few weeks ago, we still have 12,000 people a year
here being arrested for social media posts, for
free speech violations.
Does that not remain an important area that there
is still a lot of disagreement on?
Yeah.
I'd like to have you answer that.
Yeah, look, I mean, in terms of a Christian country,
I was christened, so that is —
my church has been all my life.
And we are —
you know, that is wired into our informal
constitution.
Of course we celebrate many other faiths as well,
and I'm really proud that we're able to do so as
a country.
And on free speech, that has long lived in this
country.
Free speech is one of the founding values of the
United Kingdom, and we protect it jealously and
fiercely, and always will.
And we will bear down on any limits on free speech.
I draw a limit between free speech and the speech
of those that want to peddle paedophilia and
suicide social media to children.
And therefore, I'm all for free speech.
I'm also protecting children from things that
will harm them, paedophiles, those that peddle
suicide, which has a terrible consequence for
individuals, particularly teenagers.
And so that's the balance we strike.
But we have had the freedom of speech in this
country for a very long time, and we will always
protect it.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Brian, please.
Thank you.
Prime Minister, it's good to see you again.
You have a beautiful country.
Thanks for having us.
Thank you.
Two questions.
One, just recently, President Trump labeled
Antifa domestic terrorists.
Would you consider doing something like that in
your country?
Well, we obviously will take decisions for
ourselves.
I don't want to comment on the decisions of the
President, but we take our decisions ourselves.
And my question to you, President Trump, is there
any update on the auto pen?
Yeah, it's just gotten worse, from their
standpoint.
The people that used it, and one in particular,
one person, was never told by Biden to do it, only
spoke to Biden twice.
And that was just talking about the weather, not
talking about any order.
And he was taking orders from people other than
Joe Biden.
Joe Biden wasn't giving those orders.
You know, Joe Biden didn't believe in open borders.
He didn't.
I've known him for a long time.
He was never the brightest bulb in the ceiling, as
we know.
You can go back 40 years ago, and you'll see that.
Go back and take a look at the hearings on Justice
Thomas, and you'll see that very much.
But he didn't believe in open borders and all of
this nonsense that they're peddling now, which is
why they're not in office any longer.
It's a shame.
The auto pen was illegal.
It was illegally used.
He never gave the orders.
He never told them what to do.
And I guess the only one he signed, or one of the
few he signed, was the pardon for his son.
But you had the congressmen who, when they
got the information, they found out they were
guilty, and they deleted and destroyed all
information.
Everything.
You couldn't get any of it.
They found out that Nancy Pelosi actually was
offered the 10,000 soldiers, and she turned
them down.
They found out many things that were very bad.
So they deleted and destroyed all information.
You talk about freedom of the press and freedom of
speech.
How about that one?
And there's not a thing.
This is after a year and a half of hearings.
They destroyed everything.
And somebody has got to be held responsible.
So Biden, what he did is they knew — I don't
think he knew, but somebody knew.
I don't think Biden had a clue about anything, if
you want to know the truth.
But they gave a pardon to those congresspeople.
They gave a pardon.
Those people are so guilty.
They gave a pardon.
But Biden didn't know about it.
The people, whether it's Lisa or any of those
people in there that really ran it — I know them
all, and they're sick people.
They're smart people.
They're very smart.
They're probably brilliant, but they're sick in
ideology.
And they were running the auto pen, and it was
totally illegal, what he did.
And I hope it's going to be so adjudged.
Okay?
Let's see.
Peter, go ahead.
The Press.
In the deal that you're working on for the
Chinese to sell TikTok to an American buyer, are
the Americans going to have to come up with their
own algorithm?
So what we're doing — and we're speaking to
President Xi on Friday to see if we can finalize
something on TikTok, because there is tremendous
value, and I hate to give away value, but I like
TikTok.
It helped get me elected.
In fact, Charlie said, Sir, you ought to get on
TikTok.
You'd be great.
I said, Really?
Tell me about TikTok.
And we — as you know, we did unbelievably well
with youth, like, at a level that no Republican
has ever even dreamt of.
And in what — you know, look, I think we won it
for a lot of reasons, but that was a reason we won
the election by such a big number.
TikTok has tremendous value.
The United States has that value in its hand
because we're the ones that have to approve it.
I specifically get the right to approve it.
The people that are investing in it are among
the greatest investors in the world — the biggest,
the richest — and they'll do a great job.
And we're doing it in conjunction with China.
But we are getting — the United States is getting
a tremendous fee-plus.
I call it a fee-plus for just making the deal.
And I don't want to throw that out the window.
I can say this, that you'll have a lot of very
unhappy youth.
And I use TikTok very legitimately, very straight.
Just statements.
Every day, I'd deliver a statement.
Short statements.
Sir, make it short, please.
And TikTok Jack, we call him.
It was pretty good.
Did a good job for me, I guess.
But, no, I'd rather reap the benefits.
I mean, the kind of money we're talking about is
very substantial.
And it'll be owned by all American investors and,
you know, the best investors.
And the, you know, very rich people and companies
are going to be owning it.
Very, very straight, very legitimate countries,
companies.
And, really, companies that love America.
So they're going to be owning it.
It's a big thing.
And on a much bigger scale — and probably that's
why we were able to get that.
But on a much bigger scale, we're pretty close
to a deal.
We may do an extension with China, but it's an
extension based on the same terms that we have
right now, which are pretty good terms.
Thank you.
If you feel so strongly about officially
recognizing Palestine for statehood, why are you
waiting for President Trump to leave the country?
Why can't you just do it right now?
And isn't there a risk in rewarding Hamas with that?
Well, let me be really clear about Hamas.
They're a terrorist organization who can have
no part in any future governance in Palestine.
And what happened on October the 7th was the
worst attack since the Holocaust.
We have extended family in Israel.
I understand firsthand the psychological impact
that that had across Israel.
So I know exactly where I stand in relation to
Hamas.
Hamas, of course, don't want a two-state solution.
They don't want it.
They don't want a ceasefire.
I'm very clear where I stand on Hamas.
On the question of recognition, I made my
position clear at the end of July as to the timing,
which has got nothing to do with this state visit.
And I've discussed it with the President, as you
would expect amongst two leaders who respect each
other and like each other and want to bring about a
better solution in the best way that we can.
Thank you so much.
Can I go back then to Robert at ITV?
Robert Peston, ITV.
Mr.
President, you uniquely, you alone in the whole
world, have the power to persuade Prime Minister
Netanyahu to stop the demolition of Gaza City, to
stop the starvation of Palestine, and to stop the
killing of civilians.
If not now, when will you exercise that power?
I didn't tell him.
To stop.
And then for both of you all.
But you do understand about October 7th.
You do understand.
Believe me, I understand.
One of the worst days in the history of humanity.
What happened?
I have seen the tapes.
Babies that are four months old.
It's chopped up to pieces.
You've seen the tapes and I've seen the tapes.
You're a professional and so am I.
And people forget about October 7th.
I can't forget about it.
So I want it to end.
But I want the hostages back.
I don't want the hostages used as human shields,
which is what Hamas is threatening to do.
But as soon as they're back, that's the moment
you will tell Netanyahu to stop.
Well, it would certainly help, but I have to have
the hostages back.
And I don't want them back piecemeal, as I said
before.
I want them back.
And on a separate issue, free speech.
Your Vice President, Vance, said that free speech
is under attack in the UK.
Do you agree with him?
And, Prime Minister, we saw the dismissal of a very
well-known chat show host in America last night,
Mr. Kimmel.
Is free speech more under attack in Britain or
America?
Well, Jimmy Kimmel was fired because he had bad
ratings more than anything else.
And he said a horrible thing about a great
gentleman known as Charlie Kirk.
And Jimmy Kimmel is not a talented person.
He had very bad ratings.
And they should have fired him a long time ago.
So, you know, you can call that free speech or not.
He was fired for lack of talent.
Please, go ahead.
Yeah, I mean, firstly, on the question of Charlie
Kirk, can I just express how shocking that is, I
think, to everybody who believes in free speech
and in democracy.
And it sent shockwaves through the world.
And I know that he was a friend of the President.
And I reached out straightaway to the
President of the United States.
impactful it would be on him and his family.
And we all need to be absolutely clear about
that.
Whatever our political views, it is shocking and
is to be condemned.
On free speech, not much to add to the answer I
gave earlier.
This country has had free speech for a very, very
long time.
It is part of who we are as a country.
And it is the values that we fought for.
We fought for it during the Second World War
alongside each other.
So we need no reminding of the importance of free
speech in this country.
Thank you, Robert.
And I'll go to Beth for the final question, please.
Beth.
Thank you so much.
Sky.
Thank you.
Thank you, Prime Minister.
If I could start with you.
Prime Minister, President Trump has said he's ready
to impose modes of sanctions on Russia if NATO
countries stop purchasing Russian oil.
He's got a point, hasn't he?
Is that what you now believe is needed to bring
Putin properly to the table?
And what's your message to the President on U.S.
sanctions?
And, Mr.
President, if I may, the king praised your personal
commitment last night to finding solutions to the
world's most intractable conflicts.
You have invested much of your time and effort in
Ukraine.
But even as you seek to broker a deal, President
Putin is escalating the war.
He's firing drones into NATO airspace.
You say he has let you down.
Was it a mistake to invite him to Alaska?
Do you regret it?
And is it time to squeeze him, sir, and scare him
and impose sanctions?
And finally, if I may, the elephant in the room,
Lord Mandelson.
He is no longer the ambassador.
Do you have some sympathy with him that he lost his
job over historic links to Jeffrey Epstein?
Thank you very much, sir.
I don't know him, actually.
I had heard that.
And I think maybe the Prime Minister would be better
speaking of that.
That was a choice that he made.
And I don't know.
What is your answer to that?
Well, I mean, it's very straightforward.
Some information came to light last week which
wasn't available when he was appointed, and I made a
decision about it.
And that's very clear.
On the question of the pressure on Putin and on
Russia, which is obviously really important, look, I
think it is a challenge to Europe.
There are a number of European countries which are
too reliant on energy from Russia.
The U.K.
actually, obviously, is almost nothing at all.
But we do need to bear down and work with our European
counterparts here.
There are one or two countries, I think, that do
need to look again at the pressure of energy.
There's no one silver bullet here.
We do have to have a wider suite of sanctions, which
we've put in place a number of times, working across
Europe and with the United States.
And, of course, we must and we are making sure that
Ukraine is in the strongest position now, because one
of my long concerns here has been that whilst we talk
about a ceasefire, and we all want a ceasefire, and we
talk about what might happen after a ceasefire, we
mustn't forget that Ukraine needs our support now.
And we've said we stand with Ukraine from the start to
finish.
And that means we must continue to supply them with
what they need in order to fight this war, which, of
course, resulted from and is a result of Russian
aggression.
We have particularly done the sort of leadership role
in the coalition of the willing so that if there is
a ceasefire and if there is a deal, and I do hope
there is, that is then lasting and not then broken
because, given previous history, I don't trust
Putin.
Thank you.
Very simply, if the price of oil comes down, Putin is
going to drop out.
He's going to have no choice.
He's going to drop out of that war.
And when I found out that the European nations were
buying oil from Russia, and, as you know, I'm very
close to India.
I'm very close to the Prime Minister of India.
I spoke to him the other day, wished him a happy
birthday.
We have a very good relationship.
He put out a beautiful statement, too.
We have.
But I said, you know, I sanctioned them.
China is paying a very large tariff right now to
the United States.
But I'm willing to do other things, but not when
the people that I'm fighting for are buying oil
from Russia.
If the oil price comes down, very simply, Russia
will settle.
And the oil price is way down.
You know, we got it way down.
We're drilling and we produce more oil than
anybody else in the world.
We're doing a lot.
But I was disappointed to see that.
And the Prime Minister was disappointed to see
that.
And it wasn't him.
It was other countries.
And you can't do that.
You can't do that.
You can't.
That's not playing fair with the United States,
and we can't have that.
Thank you.
