"People With Uteruses" Girl Gets An Education in Biology I Charlie Kirk

All right, am I good? Perfect. All right, so basically, earlier you were talking to one of my lovely fellow students who had a beautiful rainbow top, and I love that, and you said... Allow her to finish, please. You said you need to be responsible for your own orgasms. Yes? Okay, with that being said, why is it that a lot of the times people with uteruses have to carry all the responsibility that comes with getting pregnant? You mean women? I think there are people... I didn't want to get into this topic. You already did. I mean, can you be a man with a uterus? Yes. I didn't want to have the gender discussion with you. This is what they teach here, guys. I'm telling you. I didn't want to have the gender versus sex discussion. Well, you brought it upon yourself. That's fine. Okay, what is your contention? Okay, so basically, why is it that people with uteruses have to carry all the responsibilities that come with having a pregnancy? Because this is true, but he just said you have to be responsible for your own orgasms. The law is very clear that if the father abandons, they own child support. So it's actually not clear. It's actually not the case. Okay, but a lot of the time, it's like, you know, there's like one-night stands. There's the cases of like... Then stop having one-night stands. Like, you don't have to have sex. It's not like a thing you need to do. But you said you had sex, and now you have to live with the consequences. Yes. So both people should have to live with the consequences. Yes, and here I am with this radical idea that all of humanity embraced for like 2,000 years, which the best way to live is to get married and then have sex. But that is not the reality of our society at this time, and we all know this. Exactly, but is there anything stopping you from doing that? No, and I'm talking about... Self-control is a virtue that every kid should re-embrace. But I'm saying that pregnancy still happens outside of marriages. And you were saying that because you have to be responsible for your own orgasms, does that not mean that a male or the person who contributes the sperm, okay, a biological male... Contributes the sperm? So we're no longer... See, she said male, but then she said now we're just sperm donors. That's what we are now. I'm just saying that... You see how like the trans thing, just like you can't... You don't never know what to say. It's just so comical, but yeah. So the person who is a biological male and contributes to that pregnancy, they don't have to live with those responsibilities just because they are not married. But that's not fair. Yeah, that's nature. But that's not fair. And you just said that you should be responsible for your own orgasms. Okay, yeah, a lot in life is not fair. Women have to menstruate. I don't. Not fair, okay? Also, there's things that men have to go through that women don't have to go through. I'm saying that males should have to contribute just as much to a female's pregnancy if she is going to carry something. Fair, fair. Let me hold you to that standard then. Time out. Therefore, if a woman is going to have an abortion, is it 50% the man's decision? If we hold males to this responsibility, I believe that they should like, you know, at least be able to like have a say. But that is my personal opinion. How big of a say, like 10% or 20%? In the end, it is a female's body. And they have the right to decide what they do with their body. Okay, but just to play that out. If the baby is a baby girl in there, doesn't that baby girl also have a right to decide to her own body? We're still talking. They can't even make decisions yet. Exactly. So then isn't it best not to terminate them because they can't make decisions? You're still not answering my question. How are we supposed to hold the person? Because you just said that pregnancy comes from two people, does it not? And you're supposed to be responsible for your own orgasm. Yes, I know how reproduction works. If your contention is that men should be held more accountable for impregnated women. Yeah, of course, the law already reflects a lot of that. That's why child support decisions go 99% against men. Okay, the law is way, way, way in the woman's favor. A lot of times it should be. But a lot of the times in one night stands, that's just like simply like not the case. Okay, so what is the contention then? Then we must make it easier for one night stands? I mean, like, I'm trying to say I don't think it's fair that like you are going out of your way to say that it's not okay, that the person who has to carry that child. Just understand how silly what you're saying. You're using the word fair, fair, fair. The most unfair thing is to... You don't have to deal with the stigma. No, let me finish what I'm saying. Let me finish what I'm saying. The most unfair thing imaginable is eliminating a life from being able to live and flourish. That's the most unfair thing. Murder is the most unfair thing at all. Definitionally, that's unfair. You eliminate a life from being able to flourish. That's unfair. As a person with a uterus, if I did get pregnant... Right over Israel's border, there are thousands of Christians and Druids who are being targeted and killed. The fellowship cannot stand by and watch. We are sending aid in. Most of the world is oblivious to what's happening. Thousands of people who have lost their lives. No food, no medicine. We're standing in the middle of a miracle. Food will be in the hands of Druids and Christians alike. Wherever it's needed, we will continue to save lives of our brothers and sisters. We will continue to give hope. To learn more, please go to ifcj.org. I would not want to carry said pregnancy. As a person with a prostate? And I don't have sex. And that's not anybody's business. But let me just... Again, I don't want to ask about people's personal lives. I'm not that interested in that. I'm saying if I have... I'm put in an unfortunate situation. And a lot of the times, there's borderline rape, sexual assault cases. Less than half of 1% of all abortions are in that category. You can say that, but also... But what do we really know? Because a lot of the times, statistics, according to... That's Planned Parenthood's own data, just so we're clear. It wasn't Planned Parenthood, actually. It was the Guttmacher Institute, which is Planned Parenthood's research arm. Okay. According to the National Sexual Violence Resource Center, apparently about one in five women experiences rape. This is complete garbage, just so you... It is not. Want me to prove it to you? How is it not? If you guys, one in five women experience sexual assault or rape, then we would have the same levels of rape as the Congo. Okay? Is that not possible? No, it's not just impossible. It's pathologically insane to believe that one in five women... That we have third world levels of sexual violence and rape. So shouldn't we be doing something about that, then? No, no. Meaning that the report... I feel to see how you're discrediting something instead of just acknowledging that it could genuinely be true. Two things can be true at once. It's not even close to being true, just so we're clear. It's that it's one in 5,000. It's not one in five. Okay? The idea that one in five women are raped or sexually assaulted in this country has been so disproven. In fact, they say... Says who? Let me prove it to you. Because we have lots of stats. This is actually on the lower end. I've heard higher stats. This is on the lower end. Let me prove it to you. If they say college campuses are rape culture because one in four, one or five women get raped. If that's the case, why would women ever go to college campuses? Why would parents... Because they want an education? No, hold on. It's more dangerous than going into the Democratic Republic of Congo. The point is that it's so materially insane to think that one in five American women will be raped in their life. It is. I agree. Meaning that they're lying about being raped, that they're lying about being sexually assaulted. You believe that people lie about being... See, this is actually... All the time. This feeds into what I was saying. All the time. This is... This feeds into what I was saying, actually. Like Brett Kavanaugh had 11 fake accusers. One guy, 11 fake accusers. This feeds into what I was saying. Do you know why a lot of people probably don't report their sexual assaults and rapes? Well, because there's a lot in the gray... There's a lot in the gray area. Alcohol is involved. It was consensual and then it wasn't consensual. Consent can be removed at any time. Okay. Again, now we're getting into murky gray area stuff, right? Where if you have two... Like a fraternity guy and a sorority girl age 19 hooking up, both five drinks in at 2 a.m. And all of a sudden she removes consent. Yeah, that's a murky middle gray area. And excuse me when I say... She still removed consent, did she not? Okay, but again... If he continues to go onward with that encounter... Again... He is sexually assaulting her. Again, that is such an unfair categorization. No, it's not. It's very case dependent. But almost every one of these cases involve a lot of alcohol and a lot of forgetfulness. But what about other ones that don't? And a lot of late reporting. There's cases of marriage rape and people don't report those because of how much stigma there is. People don't want to. I'm not doubting that rape happens. I'm contesting this ridiculous, outrageous statistic. Get pregnant from these cases. And you said you believe that people should be able to get abortions in cases of rape. No, I don't. Actually, I said... Yes, you did. I said, let me... Yes, you did. I said, I actually don't believe that. I said, let me, for the argument's sake, say that. But I actually don't believe that. I thought you said that... You don't? No, of course not. Because, oh, let me tell you what... You would make somebody carry their rapist child. If I have two ultrasounds. I have an ultrasound here of a baby conceived in rape. An ultrasound of a baby from a loving marriage. Which one is which? Wait, wait, wait, wait. You would make... You would make someone carry their rapist child. Yes. Do you know how insane that is? You know what it's like? How insane? It's like, you know what? I would make it so I can't murder my cameraman. You know how insane that is? That wasn't even a pregnancy that they consented to. That isn't even something they consented to in the first place. And you would make them carry that? It's not even... Human rights are not dependent on the method of conception. Human rights are not... Human rights... They have to carry that child and they were violated in the first place. Human rights... Do you know how insane that is? And then you're going to do a third wrong because of two evils. When does that always morally defensible? No, but if you don't want the child and like... Just because you don't want a human being doesn't mean you get to murder that human being. But your argument was based on don't have sex. You can't control if you are raped. Again, that is... You can't control that and you know that. 99.9% of the time, that is the case. Less than half of 1% of the time, it's still a question of human rights and human dignity of which that human being deserves rights. Let me ask you a question. Somebody in this audience was conceived and raped. Do you know who? No. Because they're just as much a human being as we are. That wasn't the argument I was making. Because everybody deserves the right to life, regardless of how horrific or evil your method of conception is. I'm not justifying rape. I think rapists should go to jail for the rest of their life, maybe get the death penalty and get castration. Their victims should have to carry the child that they did not want. I don't believe in giving the death penalty to an unborn baby because of what the rapist did. That in no way is morally defensible to say we should end a human life. I don't know how it's morally defensible that you think it's okay. Because life is special and beautiful. But you're taking away the person's right who has their body violated in the first place to make a decision about what they want to do from there. That's two crimes on one. Do you agree that murder is wrong? I do, yes. Okay, then we should stop murdering unborn babies. I think it should be up to the person who has to carry the child. Okay, again, that's not morally defensible in any category. Can I murder my three-month-old because it's out of the womb? No. What makes it different than if it's out of the womb or in the womb? How is it more or less a human being? That's still not the argument I'm trying to make. No, it is. It absolutely is. The standard must apply equally to all human agency and action. We are talking about morals. Right, but you just said that they deserve the right to have their choice, right? Like that child deserves the right to be able to live. Yes. But you're also taking away the mother's choice. Oh, no, yeah, you do not have the right to kill another person. Right, but you're taking the mother's choice about what she wants to do with her life. You never had that choice. You never had a right to kill another human being. That's what I'm saying. Fundamentally, the pro-life argument is at the core. You do not have the right to take another human life. So you're like radically pro-life as in no matter who, even in cases of incest. Yes, yes, all human life is special, made in the image of God, and we are called here to protect all life regardless of the method of conception. But you're not protecting the person who has to carry that child. That's a double standard. But she still lives. She lives after birth. What quality of life? Okay, again, that is just to be clear. That is eugenics. You have to have her entire life changed because of something she didn't even choose in the first place. That moral standard is eugenics. If you say that you should be able to eliminate other human beings because it makes your life difficult, we could just kill millions of poor kids because a lot of moms are saying my life is difficult because of them. It is not a moral standard that can be applied to any other dimension. Thank you for your time. I have to get to another question. Thank you.