Zezinho, a dedicated dairy goat farmer in the Cássia region of Minas Gerais, is known for his passion and expertise in caring for these animals. His love for the business began decades ago, when he inherited the family tradition. Over the years, he honed his skills, transforming his property into a benchmark for dairy goat farming.
At the heart of his business, Zezinho prioritizes animal welfare. His ethical and sustainable approach stands out, ensuring ideal conditions for his herd. The lush pastures and spacious grounds reflect Zezinho's commitment to the health and happiness of his goats, essential factors for the quality of the milk he produces.
Besides his attention to animal care, Zezinho stands out for his innovative farming practices. By implementing modern management and nutrition techniques, he optimizes milk production, ensuring an excellent final product. His sustainable approach also includes the use of environmentally friendly agricultural practices.
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Do you know that the goat was the first domesticated animal in the world?
10,000 years ago.
The treatment of a cow can be treated for R$ 10,00, R$ 15,00 per liter.
I owe my life to these animals, that's why I have love for them.
Good morning, Zezinho!
Hey, buddy! Come here!
What's up, man?
I'm here doing some work.
The chickens are good, but the grass is dirty.
Every day I come here, I have to sweep the shed.
What a nice place!
It's simple, but I'll tell you something.
I come here, I create a new weapon.
I say it like this, because it's a problem that everyone has.
We come from the city.
When I get here, everything seems to disappear.
I'll deal with chickens, mules, dogs, cats.
I'll light the wood stove.
Who is this one?
This is my grandson.
What's your name?
Wait a minute.
Your mouth is a little dirty.
But this is Caipira, right?
It's Luca.
You are Lucas.
My grandfather called me Luca.
He found it difficult to pronounce the letter S.
Luca, come here!
My grandmother too.
Today, later, we will show a milk cow with a goat, right?
A dairy goat.
And you will tell us a little about the benefits of milk for humans.
Goat milk, right?
Goat milk.
I'll tell you why I started with this.
How did this story come about.
And what are the benefits of goat milk?
Here, look!
It's the straw you use to go to the north bank.
Yeah, for the cow's milk.
Do you like horses or mules more?
I'm in love with mules.
Mule, right?
I really like mules.
I have a horse.
I have a mare.
But I like...
Is it different in life?
To walk, to...
Ah!
She can take it more, right?
To tell you the truth, we get used to the animals we have.
So, I have some mules that we go to the herd every year.
And the herd on that side is about 500 kilometers, right?
We started there with 11 days.
And we've been increasing, you know?
I think in a day we'll go to 30.
Today we're going with 14.
14.
It's a quieter group, you know?
There's no rush, right?
There's no rush.
There's a cook, there's a support group.
And the mule, I'll tell you the truth,
the way it leaves here, it finishes the trip.
Ah!
It doesn't lose weight.
The horse already feels a little more.
And the mule's toad, I like the mule's toad better.
Your grandson knows how to play the berrante, right?
He knows.
The berrante, he carries it everywhere he goes.
Yeah!
And he's a boy.
He's already old.
He's four years old now, on August 2nd.
But I'll tell you, he's a good boy.
Wherever I put my foot, he's with me.
How nice!
How many grandchildren do you have?
Six.
Fernando over there, there's a little one called Inacinho.
There's Gabriela, Dudu, Aíses, Luca, Aurora,
who is Luca's brother, and Inácio, who was born last.
You count on your fingers to see if you don't forget anyone.
No, it was six.
It's just six.
And how many children do you have?
Three children.
There's Talita, there's Fernando, who is the violinist,
and there's Tetê, who is Luca's mother.
Each one has a couple of children.
We agreed to be a couple so there's no fight, you know?
That's right.
Here you played a lot with goats.
I did.
It was here?
It was here.
I started in the city, then it was increasing,
and I moved here to the field, you know?
Here I even dismantled it.
There was a barn there with a metal structure.
This was all full of goats.
And another detail, it was all confined.
All in the bays.
Got it?
It wasn't an individual bay, no.
It separated the bays by a lot of sheep, a lot of males,
a lot of goats that were producing milk, dry goats.
But there were about 200 heads here.
Of goats and goats, right?
The area here is 16 alcoves.
It's even a small place.
It's 11 alcoves here.
My father had five there, he passed away,
and those five alcoves were for me.
So it's 16 here.
And there's more in the fence.
There's a fence in the city where Tetê lives.
This is the place you said has a water well.
Yes, there's a water well inside the city.
There's a 100mm water well inside the city.
Directly.
There's a water that comes out of the mine,
which is born inside a stone, and comes to the natural house.
And this one is from the irrigation that falls on the door there.
There are four alcoves and a few inside the city.
Four alcoves, right?
Yes.
So, the total area here is 20 alcoves, right?
It's small, but you can have a lot of fun.
You're crazy!
There's service all the time, right?
It doesn't end, right?
If you want to work day and night, there's service.
But I don't want a lot of service anymore.
I have a very thick body.
I come here every day to cook a coffee in that wood stove you see there.
Treat the chickens, harvest some eggs,
and take a chicken to eat in the city.
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And look how this breakfast was full of quitanda, people.
He made this bread there,
broa, cheese bread, biscuit.
And he prepared the coffee on time, ground on time.
And the coffee was delicious, people.
Think of a nice coffee.
And you're tasting the bread,
more sweetened, a delicious little bread.
This biscuit was like a cheese bread.
A delight.
And then I made a point of trying the goat milk, people.
It was cold.
And then I put a little coffee, right?
Take that kick in the morning.
It's too good, right?
Tell the truth.
And I didn't feel much difference with cow milk, no.
Then it's the cheese too.
The goat cheese was very tasty.
Then he will explain better
why there are some people who say that goat milk
gives the difference from cow milk.
Sometimes it's because of the handling.
But this one was delicious, people.
Very tasty.
When I was born,
I'm 57 years old.
At that time, medicine was different from today, right?
It evolved a lot, right?
It improved a lot.
But I was about a month old.
I was leather and bone,
according to my mother.
And one day she was at the hospital door
with me on my lap,
and the doctor said it was no use.
My mother didn't give milk.
It was no use for the doctor to take me there
because there was nothing else to be done.
My mother was at the hospital door
crying with me on my lap, thin.
Then...
Think about it, a mother listening to her son.
There's nothing else to do.
At that time,
a lady who was at the door
saw my mother crying with me on my lap
and asked her,
what happened?
Are you crying?
The doctor said it was no use bringing my son here anymore.
There's nothing else to do.
She said, but why?
Everything he eats, all the milk...
The milk we have,
that we've tried to give him,
he eats and vomits it all.
He's skinny.
He doesn't accept anything.
She said to her,
have you ever tried goat milk?
The woman said.
The old lady.
She said, no.
Goat milk, never.
And the old lady had a grandson
who had a goat problem.
He lived in a poor neighborhood
at the end of the city.
She said, tell your husband
that I'm going to get some milk for him
to see if he accepts.
Then my father went there.
She gave him half a glass of milk.
For you.
Yes, for my father.
My father took it.
My mother gave him this milk.
I breastfed and didn't vomit.
Look at that.
Then my father went there again.
The next day,
she gave him another half a glass.
I breastfed and didn't vomit.
My mother said,
how long has it been since he's eaten anything?
He breastfed and didn't vomit.
Then my father went to a farm
called Aristides Lemos.
A farmer who had.
And he had a lot of goats at that time.
At that time,
the pasture was grass,
the grass was fat.
Goats can't eat brachiaria.
Brachiaria intoxicates.
It gives a black diarrhea.
It doesn't work.
And at that time,
you could raise free goats.
Because at that time,
the grass was native.
Got it?
So it didn't hurt the goats.
Then she said,
because the man didn't sell,
he couldn't, he didn't lend.
My father got there and said to him,
look, my son is dying.
I'm excited.
Can you get me a goat?
Because otherwise my son will die.
Then he said to his shepherd,
go and choose the best goat there is.
Then my father bought and brought.
That's where I'm here today.
I told you I was excited because
I owe my life.
These little animals,
that's why I have love for them.
As long as I can afford it,
I won't let them breed.
I won't breed to
commercialize it.
But from time to time,
I get a milk from a person who needs it.
These days I have to take a milk
from a boy down there who asked me
for the boy to try it.
You're talking about the little ones here.
Are these those from...
It's caipira.
Caipira?
It's caipira.
Did you get these little ones?
Yes, I did.
Can you believe it?
I have a friend.
One day I went to his house.
I rent it to him.
I gave him a day off
to work in the fields with cattle.
I worked all my life.
I want to take a break.
He even sold the cattle.
I rent it to him.
The day I went to his house,
he offered me some.
Do you want some little ones for you?
I said yes.
For free?
He said yes.
I said I want it.
Then he gave me 50.
Look at this.
Then you'll see in the field,
how beautiful it is.
It was from what he gave me.
Now this day he called me again.
Come get another 45.
These are the ones.
Good!
All caipira.
Funny.
You did something here.
I don't know if it was your intuition.
You know.
But it has to be a circle shape, right?
The place for...
I took a course.
Ah, so you already...
In SENAR.
You already know.
I took a course.
It's called Redondel.
Redondel, right?
Yes.
Then it increases.
It decreases.
And when it's younger,
you close it more.
There are these...
These woods here.
It's made of can.
Yes.
Look.
It's for you...
These cans were even bought
in the old town.
To decrease the size,
you open it.
Yes.
It's a cheap thing, right?
And it's so you don't get in the corner
and don't get cold, right?
Yes.
Because if you stay in a very small place,
you'll have problems with your legs, right?
And you'll have problems.
Then from here,
now they go to the field
and go to a bigger chicken coop.
It's time to feather more, right?
That's it.
It's time to feather more.
About 30 days?
40?
No,
a maximum of 30 days.
But the way they are here,
for this little chicken coop there,
I can take it already.
You can take it.
He's the one who gave it to me.
He has two 120-egg feeders.
And he has a ranch,
he has an aviary,
he has a chicken coop there,
but it doesn't fit.
And he sells for a penny.
He sells for R$ 7.50,
each pinch of this here.
But I think he took it.
And now,
because there's this rain these days,
I think the guy didn't want to take it.
Ah, I got it.
Then he didn't have where to put it,
so he told me to get it.
a guy will record me with him too,
if he leaves it there.
He has a ranch,
he has an aviary,
it's beautiful, isn't it?
The city of Galo, his aviary.
That's it.
Is the feed the same as cow's milk?
The same as cow's milk.
Is it the same?
I don't know how many...
This one is 27%.
27%.
Yeah, 27%.
I like to give this one like this.
I've tried it all,
but the one that gave the best result
was this one here,
for the dairy goat, right?
Look at the grass.
It's a good grass for them.
They can't handle it, can they?
Can they handle it?
No, they can't.
There are few here, right?
But I help, right?
I give them a treat.
They lay them closed in the hay and in the feed.
I close them late.
And now I let them go.
The right time to let the goats to graze
is after 9 or 10 o'clock,
when the sun has already risen.
Do you know why?
All the fungus that is in the grass,
because goats and sheep
are very susceptible to worm disease.
Do you understand?
What kills the goat,
kills the sheep, is the worm.
They lay it on its stomach
and the blood comes up.
Then it turns yellow, do you understand?
So, at 10 o'clock, the grass has already dried up.
At night, the fungus stays down there.
It goes up to the tip of the grass,
because of the humidity.
And when the sun comes,
it goes down again.
So the goat only grazes the tip of the grass.
Then it doesn't catch it.
So the ideal is to sleep closed
and let it go after 9 or 10 o'clock,
when it's already sunny.
I've been working with goats for about 30 years.
This goat here,
is one of the oldest goats I have.
I sold everything.
It's sick.
I don't know if it's its age.
It doesn't go.
But this goat,
if I tell you something,
it came from 9 liters
with foam,
in one shot.
Boy!
It weighed 6.5 kg,
6.7 kg.
Did it have a good breed?
It did.
I sold a good goat.
But, poor thing,
it's at the end of its life.
And I was sorry to sell it.
That's where I...
I've heard that goats like to stay
in high places.
That's it.
When I started,
I started with them like this,
because there were few goats.
Then, okay.
It was one in each house.
This is the ideal
for when you're going to milk,
for milk production.
Got it?
That the goats are separated.
You control what each one is going to eat.
Leave them alone.
Wait a minute.
What each one is going to eat.
Because they sometimes
fight each other
because of the food, right?
So, they have a special place
for each one.
They don't fight.
Wait a minute.
Put just a little bit there.
If I leave it,
it wants to stay with me 24 hours.
Leave a little bit to put there,
to take the milk.
I even had 200 heads.
200 heads.
Between breastfeeding and breastfeeding.
Breastfeeding and breastfeeding.
They say that.
Breastfeeding and breastfeeding.
From a young goat to an old goat,
like that one,
which is breastfeeding.
Got it.
But...
Leave the food.
We'll put it in a little while.
And then you took an average of how many liters?
60, 70 liters of milk.
Because the average of the goat is how many?
It varies a lot because
it depends on the genetics you set up.
I made all my goats.
I bought them all.
Of these 200,
I must have bought
about 10 goats at most.
And I started with these goats.
Actually,
this time now,
because I already raised goats
some time ago.
About 27,
28 years ago.
To begin with,
the advantages of goat milk,
digestibility.
Its fat molecules
are much smaller than that of a cow.
And its lactose is very low.
It's not that it doesn't have lactose.
It does, but it's very low.
But one of the great advantages of goat milk
is digestibility.
You know how long
it takes the cow's milk to digest?
I don't know.
There are people who say
that we can't digest the milk.
It's the milk's digestion, right?
It's 3 to 4 hours.
It's normal.
Do you know how long
goat milk takes to digest?
About 30 minutes.
Look at that.
And some people
sometimes feel uncomfortable, right?
And the goat can't do that.
It can't.
There are a lot of people who can't.
With cow's milk,
with cheese, for example,
with cow's milk,
it gets stuck in the intestine
and can't eat it.
If you have an intestine stuck,
you can't eat cheese.
Otherwise, it doesn't work.
And goat's milk,
it's funny.
So much so that
those who have an intestine problem,
the child who has a loose intestine,
it regulates,
affirms.
Those who have an intestine stuck,
it gets it right on the other side,
you know?
Does the cost per liter
come out more or less
similar to that of the cow
or does it come out more in account?
Let me explain.
If you have a business,
if you get a business,
I'll explain how good goat milk is.
The treatment of a cow,
you can treat 10 goats.
Look at that.
Ten.
And for you to see
what a goat produces.
How much is a liter
of cow's milk today?
Cow's milk today,
I heard it was
R$ 1.70 for the producer.
It came back.
Who buys it is the milkman,
right?
That's it.
And you know,
I stopped taking goat's milk
to sell.
I was taking it.
Do you know how much I stopped?
How much I was selling per liter?
R$ 15 per liter.
What's the difference?
Now you do the math.
A cow,
to give you a lot
to treat her well,
she gives 20 liters of milk.
Lucas, let her go.
20 liters of milk.
Put it there.
Let's put it at R$ 2.
20 liters of milk at R$ 2.
Give R$ 40.
20 liters at R$ 2 is R$ 40.
R$ 40.
Now you put 10 goats.
Let's put top, no.
Let's produce 2 liters each.
Which is normal.
It's the treatment of a cow, right?
So it gives 20 liters, right?
10 goats, 2 liters.
It gives 20 liters.
How much is R$ 15?
R$ 300.
Look at the difference.
From R$ 40 to R$ 300.
The same expense you have with a cow,
you will have with 10 goats.
What was difficult at your time,
sometimes,
was to find the public to buy.
Market.
There are times that,
for example,
I marketed the milk.
Because goat's milk,
I packed it in a bag and froze it.
It can be frozen for 6 months.
Like, you sealed it.
Seal it,
like a milk bag you buy in the market.
Then you freeze it.
Then, for example,
I got here and got 30 liters,
which was enough for the whole month.
I spent 1 liter per day.
I sold it to Franca,
I sold it to Ibiracê,
I sold it to Monte Santo,
I sold it to Guaxupé,
to Itaú,
to Pratápolis,
to Paraíso.
I had a lot of Paraíso milk.
And it's captive,
just like the cow's milk.
Do you have to take it out
so it doesn't cause problems
in the cow's tits?
It's the same process.
If you want it wrong,
you have to give it to the nanny.
You have to leave it,
and so on.
But I never had a problem
with the nanny and the goat.
And the goat has two tits.
Only two.
The cow has four, right?
The cow has four.
There are goats
that give more milk than a cow.
Look at this.
I even had goats
that gave 6.5 kilos,
7 kilos of heavy milk.
I took it out twice.
You said this one
gave 9 with the foam, right?
With the foam.
With one take, this one gave.
And you could do more than one,
if you wanted.
I took out a three liter mug,
and it came to give three three liter mugs.
Two takes.
I took it out like a cow.
I took it out in the morning
and I took it out in the afternoon.
Look at this.
But the goats
stayed in those little cages
I'm telling you about,
separated.
But today, for example,
now I stopped.
I have to have goats
because of the problem
we have here
with lactose, these things, right?
But there are people
who have intestinal problems.
There are people who have a problem
that they pop the body
the whole body, you know?
It gives some stuff to the body.
Cow's milk, then.
And this one, the goat's,
have you noticed that it gives?
The goat's has more calcium,
the goat's milk.
So, why with the child?
Its ideal is for children
and adults.
The child
who has here
a reflux problem.
With goat's milk,
there's no time
to get back
that little cheese
that makes the digestion fast.
And the person,
when it gets older,
also the digestion
gets slower, right?
I've heard that
when the mother doesn't give milk,
you can give the goat's milk.
It's the milk that
gives the most
Look, I raised,
the goats,
I milked them
when they were born.
I castrated them,
the males,
I confined them,
I slaughtered them,
I chopped them,
I seasoned them,
I packed the packages
of one and a half kilos,
only the seasoned steaks.
It was just put on the grill
and passed.
I didn't enjoy everything,
I did everything.
But I stayed
from six in the morning
until eight,
nine at night
because of that.
Because the milk
that didn't sell,
I had to
turn it into cheese
and I had to
put it in yoghurt,
in chancliche,
you know?
In dulce de leche,
I did all that.
But then,
I said,
no,
I'm tired.
You talked about
the little goats
that have to be chained.
In this case,
if you leave them
with a horn,
then they
end up hurting
each other.
Why?
Like a cow.
Yes,
when it's time to eat,
they fight
because of the food here.
There's always
one that rules.
The goats here,
there's one,
there's one
that's the queen
of the land.
And she beats
everyone
and as you put
the goat,
she doesn't let
anyone come.
When she's full,
she leaves
and the others
come to eat.
So,
it's ideal
to have no horns.
But those there,
now I have a horn.
There was a time,
Lucas,
when I arrived,
I took the goat's milk,
so I had to
sell the goat's milk.
So,
I took the cow's milk
just to treat
the little goats.
At the time,
I was giving
the cow's milk
to 45 little goats
early and late.
Now,
you think,
take the milk,
make the products,
everything.
And it had to be
early and late
for the cow's milk.
One by one.
They used to milk
a range of 750 ml
each.
And when I made,
for example,
the chanclich,
it was more profitable
than selling the milk.
Because if you made
the chanclich,
for example,
of 10 liters of milk,
you know,
it would give
more or less
20,
17,
18,
20 chanclich
balls.
If you sold
in the range
of 15 reais
each,
you understand?
I mean,
10 liters of milk
would give 20 chanclich,
it would double
what the milk would give.
I would sell
a liter of milk
for 30 reais
selling the chanclich.
And the chanclich
had the advantage
that you could
make it and freeze it.
So,
you didn't have
time,
you had to sell it
quickly.
The best thing
for goat's milk
is that the real chanclich
is made of goat's milk.
They make it,
they sell it in Franca,
in Savenhago,
made of cow's milk.
But the cow's milk
is thick,
it's kind of granulated,
there in that Arab house
down there,
on the avenue
over there.
But goat's milk,
if you knead it,
it becomes
a pâté,
you know?
It's different.
It's smoother.
Smooth,
it becomes a pâté,
you need to see it.
Creamy,
it becomes creamy.
So,
actually,
you know that goat
was the first animal
to be domesticated
by man?
I didn't know.
Ten thousand years ago.
The first animal
to be domesticated
by man was the goat.
Then,
later on,
it was the cow.
Many years later,
there was the cow,
but the goat
had leather
to make
the clothes,
it had meat
to eat,
and milk
to drink
and to do things.
How cute,
it's here.
And,
in this case,
when you were
a producer,
you worked
only with this,
was it better
for a male
to be born
to slaughter,
or did you prefer
the females
to be able
to milk?
Is it the same for the cow?
No,
it had to be both
to keep.
You had to have
a male to sell
his meat,
and the females
to renovate
the crop.
And the science
is like this,
every female
that is born
has to be better
than the goats
that you have.
The genetics,
you have to work
the genetics,
you have to look for
a male
that sows goats
too,
but here in the region
there was no one
to sow,
it's more complicated,
it's not like the cow,
the system,
you know?
It's not like the cow,
it's different
to sow goats,
but I looked for
a male,
a good breeder,
I looked for
an expensive male,
because it's no use,
if there's one thing
you have to have good
is the producer,
you can't save.
And another thing
that I learned,
I heard a lot,
today you have
a lot,
where you look
for information,
the internet
today is a
huge wealth, right?
I don't know
if you've heard
of that Manelito Dantas,
there in the northeast,
Carnaúba farm?
Already!
Wow!
I came here ...
That man,
I got goose bumps,
that man,
it's a pleasure to hear.
I came here
and I feel like
getting to know there,
because of the cows,
the goats.
Yes, they raise
the Sindhi,
the Zerá,
and the native goats
from the northeast,
and the sheep too.
I'll put the link
of their channel there,
it's worth it.
Today it's the children
who play there, right?
And he passed away,
Mr. Manelito Dantas.
But I had a desire
to have met him,
to have talked to him,
that I'm going to tell you.
I think there are
videos of him
on the internet,
Many!
So it's worth
listening to him.
And he used to say
one thing,
that the reproducer
for goat,
caprino,
can't be half-blood,
because the ox can,
you cross,
you make an ox
half-blood
to put on the cows.
You cross the Dutch
with the Gir,
you make the Girolando,
the ox half-blood, right?
There's the three-quarter,
there's the five-eighth,
but for the goat
it doesn't work.
The goat can be half-blood,
if you make a goat
half-blood,
understand?
Of a breed,
of a quality
with another,
right?
For example,
Anglo-Nubian
with Sunning,
or then
Pardalpino
with Sunning
and make the goats.
But the male,
it doesn't give good results.
The male for the reproducer
has to be pure,
either to one side
or to the other,
understand?
I learned from him,
listening to him,
I really did a test
and it doesn't really work.
I raised goats,
now for the last time,
it's been ten years,
but I've been raising goats
for 30 years,
understand?
So I like it.
And the goat has an advantage,
you see the quick result,
it's only five months
in its gestation.
And the cow?
The cow,
you put it,
it's by weight,
it's the same thing,
a goat is...
Ah, but with five months
it reproduces?
With one year of age
it's produced,
it's bred.
One year of life.
It was born,
by the time it's complete,
one year it's already producing,
if you take good care
of the goat.
It has...
It's fast.
For you to take care of it,
to put the calf with it,
it has to be weighing
35 kilos.
The cow
has to be weighing
350.
Now the goat
was born a calf,
if you want to do a test
and see the result of a calf,
it was born today,
in one year it's already bred.
Understand?
So you see the result
so it has this advantage.
And it increases a lot,
because the calves
all gave birth,
almost all of three,
two, three,
I got to have a calf
that gave birth to four,
four females.
I filmed a producer,
a producer,
a guy who breeds
mostly by wheel,
he doesn't even milk them.
There in Franco,
his name is Sérgio Milani.
He too,
his little goat,
I don't know if he gave
three or four too,
which is a...
It's a natural thing for them,
Normal.
This commands a lot, Lucas,
of feeding,
well taken care of,
well bred.
A well fed goat,
well structured,
the chance of it
having more calves
is higher.
That goat I told you about,
one of the oldest,
it was born here,
before I went to the farm,
when I started.
This last calf now
gave birth to three.
And I went to the farm
when I came back.
It was in part-time work
for a long time.
I think that's why
it's here,
it's going to have to spend
another calf.
And are the calves
prone to have
twins too?
Also.
But it's what I told you,
all the goats,
it's natural for them.
It's normal for them
to give birth to two or three.
It's not genetic.
Got it?
Got it!
All the goats,
it's what commands,
they are well taken care of,
well treated,
when they are
in the gestation period.
And I was telling you about that goat,
I got here,
it had a cross-hatched calf,
it wasn't born.
Instead of being born...
It didn't die!
It was born...
It was born with a hand and a head.
Head and hand forward.
I saw that...
It's been a long time
since it was there.
I put my hand on it
and it was...
It wasn't even with a head,
no.
It was cross-hatched.
Then I had to...
Help it.
I helped the goats a lot there.
Then I had to
put my hand on it,
fix it,
but it gave birth to three.
Only two died
and that little white female
there is its daughter.
So it means that
it will already be
in its place.
Let me show you here.
These are the little goats.
Yes,
these are the little goats
of these goats here.
Can I go inside?
You can.
Let me open it for you.
Is there an engineering
to open the door?
Yes, there is.
This is a state secret.
Here, look.
These are the little goats.
These two black ones
are male.
And the other three,
that one there,
the white one
and the little brown one
are female.
The little white one
is the daughter of the old goat
there,
I told you.
It gave birth to three,
two dead
and I managed to save it.
The chance of it being
a good milk producer
is good.
There is no mistake,
because the calf is very good.
So,
that's what I told you.
The daughter has to be
better than the mother.
It won't be easy
for this one to be better,
because the goat that arrived
gave 9 liters of milk
with foam, right?
But I'm sure
it will be good.
Have you ever seen,
what was it like,
because you studied a lot
about this,
you are a guy
enthusiastic
about goat,
about goat.
What was the goat
that you heard
that produced the most milk?
13 kilos
there in the Northeast.
Look, this one
has a fantastic
genetics, right?
Ah.
And then 13 kilos,
when you say that,
13 kilos
has nothing to do
with foam, right?
No, no.
Heavy, right?
Pure milk.
Got it?
Here in Brazil.
But I was watching
those videos,
I don't know if it's
in India,
I think it's for those
there,
from those
Lebanon,
I don't know,
somewhere there.
I was stupid to see
a goat
gave 30 and a few
kilos of milk.
I had to explain,
I think 3 or 4 people,
the guy holding,
but it's not just her,
there were others
who gave 20,
20 and a few kilos,
got it?
Heavy there.
Here are people who use
the skirt,
those things,
I don't know what country
it is,
we don't even understand
what they say,
Even the legend.
You saw the video
on the internet.
On the internet I saw,
30,
I think it was 32
or 36 kilos.
But she couldn't
even walk.
They had a thing
that they put
over her like this,
like a bag
to hold.
Like a bra.
That.
Like a bra
to hold their breasts.
It's a race.
But each breast
is long
in size.
Here, for example,
now,
I treat,
here 2 liters of milk,
3 liters of milk
is enough for me.
2 liters is enough.
So I'm just
producing
what I need.
I'm worried here,
but it's
with their well-being.
You see this part
that you're seeing there.
They were made
to be loose, right?
To produce money.
Here, the result
in money
is in the cages,
separated.
It produces more.
Much more.
Because they eat right,
each one eats.
Balanced,
so right,
there is no,
how do you say,
dispute for food.
Each one has his own.
And the ration is
like the cow, too.
As it produces,
you give an amount.
Yeah.
But a goat eats
a maximum of 1.5 kg
of ration per day.
It's a good goat
of milk.
It doesn't eat more.
And here's the thing.
If you give her
a lot of food,
then you'll see
it's because of the feces.
What's the difference?
The goat,
the goat
and the goat
have to be
like this.
Soft.
If it's soft,
like a cow,
the ration is in excess.
There's something wrong.
That's what you see.
The butt,
if it's dirty,
it wasn't made
for that,
got it?
There's even
a place
where we go,
you see it.
They're already
evocating
much bigger,
those mountains,
but they're forcing
them to give milk,
right?
More food for them,
right?
It's not right.
It's their first breed.
You have to see
the structure
of these goats.
The first breed.
Can you imagine
these goats
in the third breed?
This is the goat
for 5 liters of milk.
This is the goat
in the third breed.
I bet
that they give
5 liters of milk
at least,
got it?
And no,
they're half-blood.
Half-blood,
three quarters.
It's a cross-breed goat.
It's not a pure goat.
What are their races?
Anglo-Nubian
with Sanem.
This one is with Sanem.
This one is Anglo-Nubian
with Pardalpino.
Pardalpino.
Yeah.
And this white one?
This one is pure Sanem.
Pure Sanem.
But I don't like this one
The most milky breed
that exists is this one.
This one.
This one is the Dutch
cow of the goats.
Right.
Got it?
But it's also
more complicated
to breed,
more susceptible
to disease.
The other one
is the Russian cat,
so to speak.
This one is
only bred
at a certain time
of the year.
This one is bred
all year round.
Got it?
So...
When is this one
bred?
From January
to June.
Ah, in the first months
of the year.
Yes.
And here,
any time of the year.
Any time.
If you have a calf
here with them,
they give birth
here,
they breed.
That's cool.
So there's this advantage,
right?
Yeah.
That's why milk goats
have a breeding season.
There are times
when he's taking
50 liters.
There are times
when he's taking
almost nothing.
Because of that.
Only that one.
It all dries
at a certain time.
And you have to wait
for the eggs to hatch.
Got it?
It looks like a
marquise path.
Actually,
it's called a lever.
A lever.
A little lever
to get the milk.
Can you do it?
Come on, son.
It won't be easy.
What a helpful cowboy.
The other
goats I had...
by himself, right?
Yeah.
Sometimes it's still
a little risky
because they're...
Dad, come here.
Come on.
You're going to take it out?
Wait, let me wash
my chest first.
You were explaining
the handle thing
so it doesn't smell.
Let me explain, boss.
The male can't
stay with them
all the time.
No.
The male can't
stay with the goat.
You have to dry it.
Wait a minute, son.
Because
it has a gland.
Dry it.
You have to dry it.
Look,
it has a gland
here in the head,
in the middle of the horn.
And this gland
exhales a hormone
that induces
the goats
to enter the nest.
The goat
smells that
hormone.
Can you really take it out?
Take it out a little bit.
You have to start early, right?
I woke up late.
So it releases
this hormone
to be able to
exhale this hormone
to be able
for the goat
to enter the nest.
Induce, right?
Pull it down.
There.
Let me take it out now.
Hide the milk.
Okay.
Done.
And not being together
doesn't give this problem?
Not being together.
Because actually
milk, as I told you,
is one of the foods
that absorbs
the most pain.
And this
milk
has a very strong odor.
So when you
put them to cross,
okay,
stay together,
crossed,
you separate.
Crossed, separated.
And actually
the ideal body
for this
has to be at least
50 meters away
from the goat
to be able
to not give this
problem.
If it's close,
oh, it just separated there.
It's no use.
Pass it to her?
Pass it.
Maybe then she releases
a smell too, right?
No.
His smell
goes there
in the goats
there's
a sheep
that produces
like a goat.
There are sheep,
there is a breed of sheep
that produces
4 to 5 kilos
of milk per day.
Where?
Not here, right?
I've seen it outside.
I don't know if it's in Brazil.
But outside
I'm sure it is.
Does she hide the milk too?
To let the
little goat?
No,
it's very difficult.
I believe
with a little
reserve, right?
This goat
has the ability
to give this
bucket full.
Today.
But I leave
the little goats
with her.
Wow!
Can I let her go?
You can.
I leave the little goats
with her,
I leave them,
I stay with her
until 5 or 6 o'clock
in the afternoon.
Yes.
But that was already
to be unleashed,
because the right thing
to do is to take
the little goats
to be unleashed.
They are 90 days old,
they are 5 months old already.
Ah, I see.
Just as I need
only 2 liters
that I told you,
let them
unleashed,
let them, right?
But if you leave them
in the morning,
don't leave them
with the goat
at any time,
this goat
gives this bucket
here, full.
It's what
they say,
that sometimes
the cow is to
raise the calf,
the goat here
in this case
is to raise the goat.
To raise the goat.
Come on,
get over here.
Funny,
the mother of this goat
here,
her race,
was from that goat
La Mancha,
have you ever heard of it?
La Mancha?
No, not yet.
First time.
She has ears
of this size.
It looks like it has no ears.
Have you ever seen a goat like this?
No, not yet.
Of this size.
I'll search to put it in the video.
There was a goat called La Mancha.
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
everyone used to come there,
there was only one of her.
But this goat
doesn't have ears?
No, it doesn't,
but it's this size.
It's a race,
got it?
And she's just like
her mother.
The chest
is the same
and
there's a
particularity
too.
You're going to take
her milk here,
just like her mother.
She gives milk
and then
suddenly
the milk ends.
She hides,
then you take it out
slowly,
then she goes down again.
Her mother was like this.
It's funnier.
But she has good breasts,
you see?
Like a cow.
Yeah, I see.
There's no difference.
But this is the selection,
see, Lucas?
Yeah, right?
Because there are some
small breasts
that pull and go.
This is the selection.
You see,
these don't
work for milk,
you're already beating.
It even works,
but
it's too difficult
for you to take it out,
Look,
the bucket is full.
The two goats
give the bucket full.
But there is a possibility
for any of the two
to give this here,
if I put the
little goats away
in the morning.
I follow them
until 5,
6 o'clock,
right?
They
like it a lot.
They say
the old words
of
cat's nails
in the grass.
Really?
In the past,
they said
they raised a lot of goats
to scratch the grass,
to finish
with the cat's nails.
Because the cat's nails
are young.
Can I see
the open nail?
You can.
The cat's nail,
they say,
it's very bad
to deal with it,
to scratch it,
it hurts us.
And they ate everything
that came up,
they ate it again
until they killed it.
There is a study
in South Africa
that they did
with a heart patient.
Got it?
And they did
the test
with several types
of meat.
The best
result
for the patients
was
the goat meat.
Got it?
A study
in South Africa
that did
a report
about it.
So,
the best
cholesterol
they have,
the one
that gave
the most
benefits
to the heart patients
was the goat meat.
Wow!
So,
we know
very little,
and there is a lot...
It is little
disclosed, right?
Yes,
and there is also...
How do you say?
The person
doesn't know,
right?
If you heard
people say
that goat meat
is dry,
it is very...
It is nothing.
But it is the way
that the person
doesn't know...
Boy,
a goat
has to be fat,
has to be well raised.
Just like
I used to castrate
and confine,
the goat rib
gave fat
of this thickness.
Think about
a soft,
tasty meat.
Got it?
There is a prejudice
about goat milk,
about goat meat.
Got it?
An old mod
that you will eat
is different.
But there is
a prejudice
without knowing.
But because
the other said,
someone said
that goat milk
smells bad,
that goat cheese
smells bad,
you drank the milk
and ate the cheese.
Does it have any taste?
No,
it is a delight.
What rules
is the handling,
got it?
It is to know how to handle.
It is to have correct information
for you to be able to do
and for you to produce.
So,
everything is like this,
right Lucas?
Everything is like this.
If you do it in any way,
it will go wrong.
The result doesn't come.
It is not the same.
It is not good.
So...
You do this
in your spare time.
Yes,
it is to pass the time.
Yes,
but it is very well done.
The retired black man
said
that you can't
do it for nothing.
You don't even have
to get a hoe
to do it.
And here
it is bamboo?
Bamboo.
Bamboo
doesn't fit,
right?
Look,
the bamboo
cheese shell.
Look how cool, people.
It has a spoon
in every way.
So,
did you introduce
your friends?
I always introduce
my friends.
Wow,
very cool.
But every day,
I go to the farm
and almost every day
I make one.
I already made one for you.
It is inside the truck.
Do you like to cook?
I like it.
And these spoons
are good
because they don't
spoil the pan, right?
This is not bamboo.
This is to make candy.
This is a spatula.
This is made
of a wood
called pig's breast.
Do you know it?
I've never heard of it.
It's the first time.
It has some thorns
that look like pig's breasts.
Then you take them out.
It's a stick.
But you don't have it
in the wood.
No, no.
You can make it green,
dry.
It doesn't spoil,
it doesn't
cause problems.
You said
you have a grandson.
I'm learning how to do it.
Okay,
go over there
and sit with me.
You have to give him
a sandpaper
so he can sand one.
The chisel.
Here is the chisel
that I make.
Look at this.
It's neat.
Take the weight
so you can see.
Look at the number.
Is this a chisel?
Chisel.
The wood?
Not this one.
I saw this one
on the internet
on that channel
of Zé Douradinho.
Zé Douradinho.
Zé Douradinho,
look at this.
He says it like that.
I watch him too.
When we talk,
I say
I think he does
like Gerardinho.
Yeah.
Then he said
it could be done
by Ficus.
There is a tree
in the city
that has a lot of it.
It has a leaf
that is shiny.
Then on a friend's farm
there was a tree
that fell
and I said
I'm going to try it.
You took a board.
I took a stick
and I made this chisel.
And it really works.
But I don't know
the moon.
It was cut
in the middle of Easter.
Do you see
that it has
these little things?
Ah, Caruso got it.
Isn't it Caruso?
Isn't it Cupim?
It's Cupim.
But I don't think
it will work anymore.
Because it used to work.
Are you able
to cover the holes
with glue
and saw
if you want?
Because this one
has no problem leaking.
This one is to put fruit.
No, this one
is to knead.
This one is to knead things?
Now this one
is a centenary.
This is the centenary chisel.
This one was
the inspiration of the others.
It was.
This chisel here,
it was from a neighbor,
a farmer there.
The couple died.
I'm serious.
I love you.
It's Dona Aparecida.
And their son,
I wanted to make a chisel,
and they had this one there.
And I was happy
to have won this chisel
because I wanted
to buy a chisel,
but I can't find
where to buy it.
I even want to go
to a place
where there is
a person
who makes chisels
to see me,
to learn me,
to improve more,
to see the tools
that they use.
But here
nearby
there isn't.
There isn't, right?
This chisel
was there
in the corner
there.
I told him,
I called Zé Antônio,
I said,
Zé Antônio,
my name is Chará,
my name is also
Zé Antônio.
I said,
give me the chisel,
it has a defect,
a broken one,
from there,
from here.
I said,
no, you can take it,
you can take it.
It will stay there,
it will end up
bleeding,
we don't even use it,
or anything.
Then I brought it,
I sanded it,
it's good,
it's perfect.
It has these defects,
but the biscuit
that you ate
this morning
was crushed on it.
Look how beautiful,
and so,
its defect is the charm,
right?
It's the charm,
I won't fix it.
It's its story,
it's there.
If I sand it,
it won't stay.
What made it
have these,
break this here,
what was it doing
with it,
what happened,
right?
Each one has a story.
in a corral,
in a corral.
A cow stepped on it,
it was a creation,
it stepped on it,
it fell on something.
Grandma,
it was black.
I'm going to leave it,
where is my sister?
Where?
Piercing my ear.
Piercing your ear?
Do you want to pierce yours too?
No,
I don't even jump.
Now you see
that chicken over there,
that chicken?
Do you know what breed
that is over there or not?
Bring the yellow chicken over there.
Hi!
It's not a hen, is it?
No.
It's called Mini Cornish.
It's a breed,
it's a hen,
it's a small hen.
Its female is shocking,
it has two males,
look at the other one.
Because it doesn't have short legs
like the hen.
No,
it's a meatball.
It was made,
in his country,
it was made for meat.
It's the so-called galeto
that they say,
got it?
Its chest is round,
it's not like our normal chicken,
which is more pointed,
like this,
it's a meatball.
It looks like it's a little suspicious,
eating a little suspicious,
is that right?
No,
this one fought,
his other brother,
he fought and he pierced
his eye.
Ah,
that's why he's walking around.
That's why he's playing around there.
Hi!
You don't have a female like this, do you?
I have a female.
I got some eggs from a friend,
over there in Franca,
you know him,
from Zé do Quai,
do you know him?
Zé do Quai?
Yes.
He's the president of Castelinho,
of the club.
I know Castelinho.
He has a farm,
he gave me some eggs,
but only two males came out,
more came out,
but there was a plague
and I had to go home once,
there were nine,
died,
two males and one female left.
My female is shocking there.
Let's see if I can raise them now, right?
The creator will want to buy yours, right?
I've never heard of this breed.
Here,
I've only raised roosters,
to sell chicken to roosters.
Like,
Mr. Zé Pedro there,
sells,
you know?
But I stopped with that,
here now,
I raise everything mixed,
it's Galizé,
it's semi-caipira chicken,
it's caipira,
here in the middle, right?
Yeah!
That's a big Galizé.
That over there,
is the so-called picuira,
it's the cross,
you see that red one there?
Yeah!
It's Galizé cross with big chicken.
For me,
the best meat you have to eat
is this one, look!
It's better than the big chicken.
And they must be more rough too, right?
Yeah, they're rough, right?
Look,
this chicken is the same thing,
you see?
I like to do some crossings
of Galizé with them,
because they are good chickens
to shock,
light,
they don't break eggs.
Ah, look at that!
And good,
and it's meaty too, you know?
And your relationship with the kitchen,
Zezinho,
today you're going to make a steak for us?
I'm going to make a meat on the plate for us,
onion with tomato,
for us to eat with that cookie
that I baked early there.
To tell you the truth,
I pulled it for my mother, man,
my mother,
my mother is a first-class cook,
she is now 76 years old,
had a stroke and such,
but she's fine.
But she's a sweetheart,
famous in the city,
I learned to make sweets with her,
these foods,
but in fact,
this is taste, right?
That's who likes it,
looks for it, you know?
I say the following,
there are people who say,
I don't know how to fry an egg.
That's a lie,
you just want to fry an egg sometimes,
because today,
if you want,
on YouTube,
today you have,
today teaches step by step,
if you want,
now if you don't want,
but cooking is taste,
people have to like to cook.
And it's my passion,
it's a therapy for me,
you know?
I worked at CMIG for 30 years,
I retired 10 years ago,
I retired in 2013,
but all my life I liked to cook.
And as soon as I finished,
I stopped working,
here in Cássia,
you have that CENAR,
those CENAR courses,
I did all the courses,
both in the kitchen,
sweet, fruit pulp,
handicrafts,
maintenance in a roasting machine,
I took advantage of the time I had,
I always felt like it,
but the service didn't let me,
sometimes I do these courses,
sometimes there are courses
that are all week, right?
So there's no way.
But cooking is a passion.
Yeah.
When I find out about a different train
that I ate, that I liked,
I get crazy to get the recipe,
and then cook it.
And a good companion,
because everything is bad alone.
Everything we have in life,
this place here,
if you don't have a companion
to come here and eat
a caipira chicken with me,
you know?
The things we have only serve,
and it's good if you share it with someone.
For you alone it's not funny,
I have a good mule,
I have a lot of mules there,
but if you go out alone
to ride a mule, it's not funny.
It's nice to have a companion,
to have a friend to go to the piano,
a good chat, you know?
Life, the wealth of life
and the value of life is this.
In fact, value is very relative, right?
For you it's an Indian program,
for me it's the best thing in the world,
or vice versa.
We often have a habit of
criticizing the values of the other.
It doesn't work.
There are people who like to save money,
you know?
They don't have a car,
they don't have anything,
but that's fine.
He likes it,
his pleasure is to see the balance on the bank.
For me, that's not my value.
I don't have any money in the bank.
But I say like this,
I usually tell my friends like this,
if God allows me to have health
for a little while longer,
to live life the way I'm living,
you know?
With my family,
enjoying my grandchildren,
because when we are younger,
the children don't even have time,
we are in the rush of life, right?
I don't remember my little boys,
because I worked at CMIG,
I left early,
I arrived sometimes at dawn,
end of the year, Christmas,
my children's birthday,
I was working,
emergency, right?
So my job was a job like that.
But today, I say like this,
and thank God,
my happiness is cheap, man.
I like this here,
what you're doing here today,
that's what I like.
To take a cow's milk,
take a cow's milk,
light a wood stove,
make a simple meal,
go there,
bathe a jiló,
a quiabo that I planted,
a pumpkin.
So, thank God,
my happiness,
I'm doing this,
I'm in heaven.
So, if I stay healthy,
thank God,
I don't have any health problems,
I'm 57 years old,
I don't have any pain.
A friend of mine said to me that day,
but if you don't have the pain,
you're already dead,
because we all have it.
I said, no, I don't have it.
But I get up at 4,
5 in the morning,
6 o'clock,
I come here to the field,
I dig, I move,
I go away,
I take a shower,
I sleep a little after lunch,
you know?
Then I'm going to move there,
I dig,
I go to the field,
I see something,
so life,
I think like this,
and I'm privileged, man,
because I'm sure that the life I lead
is the dream of many people,
one day to be able to live like this.
So, God gave me the grace to live like this,
I just have to thank God.
Onion?
But I told you to tell the story,
because I think we have a connection,
and our life, we don't know anything, right?
When the mangue was 7 months pregnant,
she had a kidney problem,
and she had a generalized infection in her.
She went to the ICU,
and when we got there with her,
the doctor said she had 5% chance of surviving,
95% she wouldn't survive.
And the baby, who was...
had no chance,
100% that he wouldn't survive,
because she was in the ICU,
and she had a septic infection,
you know, all over her body.
Boy, look, you see?
She recovered,
and the baby, man,
in one last day.
The ground comes out under us.
A doctor comes to his own father
and says that his daughter
has only 5% chance of survival,
it's not easy, man,
but I think nothing in life is by chance,
because my life after that,
I started to see life in a completely different way,
because I keep seeing a father...
I think the child wasn't made to die before the father, right, man?
I don't think it was made.
The pain of a father losing a child,
I think it must be sad,
we don't know what it is,
but I was close to knowing,
I felt a little taste,
but thank God,
God gave me another chance,
and the 100% that he wouldn't survive,
that sadistic boy,
stays with me,
he wants to stay with me,
if I let him, day and night,
he wants to sleep at home every day,
so...
At the time this happened,
who did you put it in the hands of?
Our Lady Aparecida.
So, the faith in her, man,
wow,
you say like this,
we are too weak, right?
Every human being,
we make mistakes,
we have our flaws,
but...
Santa Rita too,
Santa Rita and Our Lady,
I have a faith in both,
that I will tell you, right?
God, of course,
we ask her,
ask Him, right?
Because He is the greatest being,
who does everything,
from where we came,
but...
I think God allows things
to happen in our lives,
really,
for us to improve,
that we are here to grow,
to evolve as human beings, right?
And do the best possible,
that we can do for the other, right?
First at home,
because it's no use
being a good person,
helping there,
helping here,
sometimes inside your own house,
you don't help,
you are not a companion,
you don't, right?
So, first,
I think we have to help at home,
then,
you help outside,
as each one can, right?
But,
I was telling you that time,
good life,
we learn from this,
it's simple,
because you are living a simple life,
now you say,
the crisis,
it's ugly,
now it's ugly,
but if you are living a simple life,
your boat there,
will be very small,
because you are already used to simplicity,
simple food,
little, right?
Simple clothes,
now,
when the person is used to luxury,
there is nothing against it,
who likes,
a big car,
good things,
this is a right of each one,
but there comes a crisis,
sometimes the black man gets depressed,
because lowering the standard of living is expensive, right?
Hey guys, look,
now it's time,
make yourself at home,
this is a difficult service, Zezinho,
you know, Lucas,
of rice,
the little service I like the most is this,
here, look,
it's really good,
look, look,
how is it,
look here,
hum,
is there a base?
I'll try,
wait a minute,
Zezinho,
I see that you already eat,
where is it?
Caipira biscuit,
look,
is it good?
It looks like he swallowed before he bit,
he bit,
what's up?
Is it good?
Seasoned?
It's delicious, Zezinho,
it's good,
are you served, old man?
Biscuit?
Good,
look,
you can break a guy, right, people?
kill the hunger to wait for lunch,
what is it,
this one is already served for lunch,
oh,
served?
too much,
oh,