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So, I have a brother-in-law who um is uh
just a big dumb animal, and I love him
dearly, and he came to me and says,
"Hey, I got 20 grand I'm going to put
down on a car, but I need help.
Obviously, I need help." And I said,
"You got 20 grand? Okay, fine. I I'll do
it for you." So, I co cosigned for him.
Oh, your big dumb your big dumb
brother-in-law is what you said.
Yeah.
You got in the mud with this animal, my
friend. We can't tell the two apart. We
don't know who's dumb and who's smart.
I know.
And all I can hear in the in the
background when I got done doing this is
then is Dave saying and and reciting
scripture to me saying, "One who signs
debt for another is stupid." Yeah,
that's right.
King James Bible.
That sounds like him.
I'm like, why did I do this?
Not Dave. God.
Yes. Yeah, God. God said it.
Um, so now I'm I'm in the process of
either just letting this go into a
voluntary repossession cuz I don't need
it. I don't want it. Um, and he's going
away for a very long time on a vacation.
An unwanted vacation.
Is he going to prison?
Why?
Yes, he is.
Oh, boy.
So, anyways. Yeah. So, now it's an
$1,100 car payment. And um
Goodness gracious. What kind of car was
this?
It was a Chrysler, brand new Chrysler
300. Yeah.
Can you not sell it?
Can you sell it?
Well, I can sell it. So, e either way I
can sell it, but right now I the buyout
is 62 on it. And to sell it, it's going
to be around
maybe 50.
Is that private party or is that
trading?
Yeah, that's that's private party. I I
listen to your show all the time,
George.
Okay. So, you're going to be you're 12
underwater. He obviously has no money.
He's he's going to prison. And you do
you have money?
Uh
I do, but I I I don't I don't want to do
this. I don't want to.
You already did it, my friend. It's just
going to add insult to injury. You
understand what's going to happen with
the repo, right? They're going to sell
it at auction for like 15 grand and
you're still going to owe the
difference.
Yeah.
It doesn't get you out of it. And so
it's going to be even worse if you do
the repo. So you might as well control
the variables here here and sell it for
as much as you can and then even, you
know, take the cash as a stupid tax and
go, "All right, I owe 12 grand to get
this out of my life." That's the only
way out of this that is going to leave
you with the least amount of harm.
Okay? because it's it's it's currently
the the what we owe on it right now to
get this up to
is like $5,200.
So, it's up for repossession right now.
So, I am I am in South Carolina. This
car is in Arizona. So, I'm trying to
work with my
Are you saying that you're behind on
payments by five grand?
Yes. So, with penalties and taxes and
this and that. So, this they're out.
They're gonna find this car eventually
if I don't come up with it. And
you're gonna have dog the bounty hunter
at your door, man. I would not go
through with this. This is not the way
you want to go, Frank. So, I do you have
five grand to get current on payments?
I do, but my wife won't give it to me.
Oh, boy. Does she have control of this
money or is she just at you? She's mad
at you.
She's like, "Don't take that out of our
Okay. Okay. Well, it's going to cost you
guys as a family a whole lot more than
five grand if you do it the wrong way.
And so, she's going to be you're going
to be sleeping on the couch. You might
as well live in this car at this point.
Yeah, that's kind that's kind of what I
was thinking. That's kind of where we're
at right now cuz you know
Did you do it without her without
talking to her?
No, I did it with talking to her and she
said, "Don't
you know what else?" Proverbs says,
"Uh, oh, what is it?" The the woman uh
who could find a virtuous wife
for her worth is far above his and her
the heart of her husband safely trusts
her and he will have no life again.
Oh, man. Frank.
Yeah.
Ouch. Man, that this hurts. So, you got
to go to her with all humility and say,
"I'm I'll make it up to you.
I'm so sorry, but this but this but but
George's point for real for real, Frank.
You you guys are going to end up paying
more
if this ends up getting repoed. So, it
hurts in the at the front end to pay it
all.
Get rid do it. You know, pay the pay the
backlog, sell it, pay the difference.
All of that is going to be so much less
um painful than the dragging through
this repossession and then having to end
up owing even more on the back end. So
go ahead, rip the band-aid off.
Yeah, they could sell this car for 30
and now I'm into it for 30.
I And you'll be lucky if they sell for
30. I mean, they're going to sell it for
bottom dollar at auction because they
don't give a rip and they're going to
put you on the hook for the difference
plus fees. And so I would get current as
fast as possible. sell it as fast as
possible.
How long ago did you co-sign it?
Probably uh almost a year ago.
Okay. Yep.
And I've been trying to get out of it
for the past year and a half. You know,
he's like, "Oh, I'm going to get it I'll
get it re, you know, I'll get it in
someone else's name or I'll I'll uh take
care of it. I'll get you off this in six
months, Frank. No worries."
Yeah. If a sketchy lender doesn't trust
you
to give you a loan, maybe you shouldn't
trust that person.
You know what I mean?
So, does your brother-in-law have any
money that you can get access to? If
he's going to prison, he might as well
leave you with a parting gift.
No.
Sounds like he was broke to begin with,
though. Yeah, I figured.
Yeah, he was. Yeah, he was broke to
begin with and just
Yeah, big mistake. Big mistake. So, I
Well, how much money do you have uh
liquid
between savings? Is there anything else
you could sell?
So, it's probably, you know, 10 to
12,000 bucks.
So, you don't even have the money to
make good on this deal.
No, I mean, I I don't have the money to
to um
like you can get current on payments,
but you don't have the difference in
cash.
Yeah. No, I don't have the difference in
cash, so it's going to be Well, I'm I
might I've got five closings this week,
so
Oh, good. Okay, let's hope that if that
doesn't work out, you can go to your
local credit union and take out a
personal loan for the difference and
then clean that up fast.
That's my that was I'm I've got an
appointment with the credit union
tomorrow.
Okay, good.
Good. I hope they're kind to you and I
hope you can clean this mess up and I'm
glad you learned the lesson and I hope
everyone in America did too. Never
cosign for anything.
Never cosign. I'm going to write I'm
writing that on the back of my truck
right there. Don't sign for anyone.
Never ever. Are you out of debt, Frank?
Uh we No, no, that's that's for that's
that's another 45m minute conversation.
Um but I've got my notepad here of
everything I've got and uh
manard that total money makeover event
you went to in 2003 didn't really stick
did it Frank?
No. No. Well, it did. It did for it did
for a long time and then you know I kind
of you know you wander your way back
into debt. You can't wander your way
out. So
he knows the quotes.
Yeah, I've got them all. Believe me, I
Frank's got the bumper sticker.
Oh, Frank, we like you, Frank.
You can get back on the horse. We
believe in you, Frank. We believe in
you.
The number one reason I don't cosign for
anyone, Rachel, I don't know if they're
going to be a future criminal.
That's now added to my list of fears.
Well, I don't want to hitch my wagon to
somebody's
Unbelievable. I know. All right. I've
learned from Frank. If you hear smart
advice 20 years ago, take it.
Take it the first time
and listen to your virtuous wife.
That's right. Amen. Create your free
every dollar budget today.