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6 次觀看·2025年10月26日
Jonathan here, quite an exciting episode, as I think you've already seen
with an unusual version of the somewhat infamous
Hecarim Croc MP5K briefcase
Now, before we return to that, which is this one here
I thought we should at least check in with the more famous version
originally dubbed the Special Koffer, I believe
also known lately as the Schiess Koffer
So, special case or shooting case for the MP5K
So, we'll have a quick look at this
I'll just append it
So, an ordinary briefcase, obviously it's not an ordinary briefcase
The trigger in the handle here and a thumb safety
So, carry it as normal, trigger discipline of course
Trigger is there, safety is on the top
And it is ambidextrous, so you can carry it either side
And then inside, probably one for our overhead camera
There we are
You've probably seen this before
If you haven't, go and check out Forgotten Weapons
And the Armourer's Bench have an article on this family of interesting concealed H&K briefcases
Our example of this is quite nice
Because it comes with the cleaning kit and this thing, a little packet
So, anyway, we don't want to dwell on that one
Because we have the more rare version of this system
Now, it's the exact same Hofbauer D5 model briefcase
Hard plastic briefcase with a metal reinforcement
And it does have clips, normal briefcase style latches
But they don't do anything on this one
So, with this, you have to open it up to get the gun out
Load it, make it ready
On this case, they're effectively cosmetic
So, the one that you saw me shooting earlier or the gun from within it
Because this isn't like El Mariachi or Desperado or anything like that
You don't shoot it from inside the case as you've seen
What you do is squeeze the handle on the top
And it ejects the case itself
I've always thought of this as the clown car edition of the D5 briefcase
Because it sort of falls apart on you
So, the German name for this is Zerfallkoffer
Breakaway case, essentially
Correct me if I'm wrong, German speakers, please
But as I say, it's the same basic shell
Very similar handle design, actually
The standard case is just a normal pivoting briefcase handle
So, neither of these
If you look closely at either of these
You would realize that it's not actually a normal briefcase
Most people, of course, wouldn't even think to
Maybe a bit less comfortable to carry this
With this great big push button, full width
It is a button, really, on the handle
Let's just
Well, first of all, sorry
There is a red dot here
So that the user knows which way his case is pointing
So, on the Schießkoffer
You have the trigger and the safety to indicate which way round
And you'd be hard-pressed to fire it the wrong way round
But safety-wise, there is, in fact, a red
Big red dot on the case
So, we will now pop it open again
Let the sides drop
You've already seen this, of course
And, well, we'll deal with the case first
It's just some blocks of foam
So, relatively high-density polymer foam
Not a million miles away from what we use in museums, actually
As a sort of preservation medium
Four tall, well, two tall pads here
The guns sit on
Two shorter ones on the other side of the case
They sort of pinch the gun between them quite tightly
And then two support pads, again, of different heights
Here and opposite
So, there's no mechanical spring system
Flinging this thing open
It's purely the sponginess of the foam that does it
And it's under quite a lot of compression
I can show you what I mean
And watch back the opening
Because it will be apparent on the camera as well
But if we get the other case safely out of the way
I'll try to position this
To show you how you set this up, basically
Right, hopefully you can see on our overhead camera here
There is reinforcement in here as well
As well as the spongy bits
We've just put this red sticker on here temporarily
As an extra safety measure
To make sure everything is aligned for shooting
So, that's not actually part of the kit
We'll be removing that
When we clean the thing
There's this quite stout steel reinforcement here
With these two
This is all stamped steel
Bent into shape
Riveted into the case
You probably see
It's a reinforcement
But it's primarily a bracket for the mount
That's attached to the gun
And you can see the shape of these
Not quite circular lugs
And I think you've probably gathered by now
How this works
So, we arrange this like this
Pretend that we've loaded up
And charged our weapon and placed it on safe
As we did earlier
And then what we need to do
I need to get where I can reach this
You can see how this latches in
So, these aren't really lugs
Because these are the lugs
That are on the carry handle here
And they insert into here
And you can see how much pressure
You have to apply to this foam
In fact, we're going to have to be
We're going to have to be quite careful with this foam
Now that we've recorded it firing
We're probably never going to do that again
We do not want to put this foam
Under undue stress too many times
Even demonstrating it like this
But we're doing it for you guys
Because we think it's important to
Preserve this stuff for posterity
So, the latch on the handle
Spring loaded
And you can see how it depresses
And also hopefully that there are two
I'll just show that to camera there
Two notches in these brackets front and back
And those are what lock the thing in
So, push down
Push on the handle button
And hopefully you can see
How that latches on one side
So, it's in
But it's got a bit of play
And then you close up your case
Lean on it a little bit
And you do have to depress the handle
And it's latched in
So, irrespective of these
That's how you load the thing into the case
Not too much to see
Otherwise, it's just a briefcase
At the end of the day
The final thing that's worth showing
Is the attachment
So, we'll just
One last time
We'll just pop it open
Semi-dramatically
And then we'll close that up
So, the last bit of the system
It's very simple in operation
But relatively complex
In terms of how it attaches to the gun
Standard HK claw mount
With these four points of contact
Similar lever system
In fact, it's essentially
An identical lever system
To what's on the shooting case
But we'll show you
So, that's the latch
That does the work of putting it on
This is the disassembly latch
Essentially
So, if we just press that
Off pops the handle
So, you can pretty quickly
If you had a chance to
Convert this into a normal
Probably on a single point sling
Or even without that
Just push-pull
You could actually
Quickly field convert this
Into a more wieldy MP5K
It's probably more of an action movie
Prospect than a real one
But literally
Push button, throw that away
And you've got yourself
An ordinary MP5K
Which is pretty clever
And then to show you
How it goes on
We flip up our latch
That clicks into place
Engages with these
Lugs here
And see how at that point there
It actually engages
So, by pressing that as well
We open up this space here
And that's what allows us
To slot that over
And then all you do is
Try not to cover that up with my hands
Pull up on that lever
There we go
That's the click
Push that down out of the way
And it's on your gun
Making it a bit heavy and unwieldy again
However, what you might be able to see
We can line this up just right for the camera
To show you that there is in fact a sight picture
Through the carrying handle
So I wasn't just firing blind
There's an arch under the carry handle
Which is good enough
For you to push-pull
And you get almost as good as
Well, as good as sight picture
You just don't have the situational awareness around it
It's a hindrance to aiming obviously
But then so is shooting a gun out of a briefcase
So, which is best? I don't know
You be the judges on that one
It certainly is a bit unwieldy like this
Now as far as deployment goes
I did find a German military manual
That has a single page
Depicting how this is meant to be used in military circles
And it was a bit confusing
Because it's saying to carry this whole thing
Assembled in your left hand
Drop the case
Okay, fine
But then you're having to pass it across the body
Into your firing hand
And then switch your support hand over
And then they show it firing from the left hip
In classic 80s style
To me it seems to make more sense
To just have it on the left side as I did
Drop the case
Bring it up to your support hand
And then get the firing hand on
I would have thought on the right side
Would be slightly quicker
But the manual is convinced
That for the quickest possible operation
A left hander should be carrying the briefcase
In their left hand
So, discuss
Now to fit the gun into the case
You do need the traditional MP5 backplate fitted
There's not an option here for a PDW folding stock
And there wasn't at the time
So this is
We believe both these cases were introduced in 1978
That's only two years after the gun itself was introduced
That's the MP5 Kurz
So that's when it all kicks off
Basically for this concept
And then this version was on the HK website
Until 2017
It's no longer
I don't know if technically
You can still get these things or not
But the MP5 range is still available
But on the website at least
And on the promotional material
It's reduced to basically just the ordinary MP5
You can probably get Ks as well
If you make a big enough order with H&K
But by its nature
This sort of thing is pretty niche
The more conventional way to do this of course
Is to conceal something under a jacket or a coat
Now if you are wearing an overcoat or something
An MP5K relatively concealable
It could be on a single point sling
Hanging under your arm
Locked into some sort of retention system
That you break it free of
And punch it out to use it
Various approaches have been done
The beauty of this I suppose
Is for plain clothes type use
There's no great bulge under your jacket
Or anything like that
It's quick to get into action
And you know for a shooting case
You just pull it up to a shooting position
And start firing
No one's going to know what's happening
Until the bullets start raining
And in this case
It's I guess a bit slower to get into action
But practically speaking
Again no one's going to know what's going on
When suddenly your briefcase falls apart
And you're holding a gun
There was a third HK concealed case
That we don't have unfortunately
That was perhaps the quickest
To get into action of the three
And that was like a sort of puppet of death
Where you stick your hand in the back of it
And operate the firearm still inside the case
So closer to the ordinary shooting case
Not that ordinary
But you're still going to be fumbling
And looking a bit weird
There's not a version
Where you just reach into the case
And you're firing at the bottom of the case
That really is a bit more movie land
In terms of users
A little bit hazy there
I don't know of any specific incidents
Where this was used
You can find the original HK promotional video
For the shooting case online
I've never seen any material on this at all
In fact I've never even seen
Any promotional material on this specific case
Just the fact that it was on the website
For a number of years
Users wise
The chap in the German army manual is
Well it's a catch all manual
So that's probably referring to
Or therefore GSG9
There are known users
The special forces unit GSG9
Other well police type units as well
As a broad class of thing
We know they've been purchased all over the place
Specialist police use
Is probably fair to say
VIP protection definitely
But by its very nature
There isn't a great deal out there
On the use of these things
But there are perhaps more out there
Than people think
I know that 20 odd of the shooting case
Were recovered in Iraq
That Saddam Hussein had purchased
For whatever his own VIP protection
I think perhaps the reason
This has eventually died away
Correct me if I'm wrong
If these things are still in use
But it's maybe not the height of fashion anymore
To walk around with a briefcase
And this is very much a 1970s
1980s designer briefcase
So if you are carrying a briefcase
In London or something
It's probably going to be
A more traditional leather
Covered one or something
So I at least would be suspicious
If I saw someone with a hard shell briefcase
And a shifty pair of eyes
They might have an MP5
