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Start budgeting for free today. I was
calling for some advice on how to handle
a very financially abusive relationship
regarding my mother and father.
Talk me through it.
Uh, okay. Uh, the basics are my parents
are still together and I'm I'm in my
30s. It wouldn't be a big deal for me if
it was just my mom and dad. But the
problem lies with my parents raising the
next generation. They actually raised my
sister's twin daughters who are now 10.
And I'm terrified that it's going to
ruin their upbringing like it kind of
did mine.
What What's going on? What are they
doing? Um my mother is financially
reckless. I mean, for years. I mean, she
did prison time for stealing from her
employer when I was 16. Um, once she got
out, she took out false loans in my
name, my father's name, um, false grants
through the state, and she's just been
financially reckless on credit cards in
her name, and my dad's name, and it's
just left him in financial ruin.
Wow. She's not only reckless, I mean,
she's like a criminal.
She's a toxic human being. Yeah. Wow.
So, what does your dad do? And the
problem,
well, once he finds out about certain
things, he does have a verbal
confrontation with her, but he rolls
over and and pees on himself, basically,
and he won't stand up to her. And I
think his spirit is just so beat that he
won't stand up for himself at all. and
I'm just left here as the the auntie
who's trying to make sure that her
nieces don't go through the same
situation that I went through as a
child. So, you you experienced all of
these things as a child while cuz she
was doing the exact same behavior and he
was doing the same behavior. You you
talked about that twice. How how do you
think it affected you? Cuz you sound
pretty adjusted to me. Oh, well, I'm not
saying it didn't hurt. I'm not saying it
was a problem, but Yeah, lots of therapy
there. You know, was it lots of therapy?
Is that what did it? Uh therapy helped a
lot removing myself from the toxic
situation. My mom kicked me out when I
was 17. Ah um right after she got out of
prison because there was a a fight
between us on you know the vehicle
situation after she got out. So I you
know I had to grow up real fast. I
raised my younger sister for the last
four years of her life. How does
somebody with a criminal record get um
custody over two seven-year-olds?
Uh because it was over 10 years after
the fact. So after 10 years, their
felony is erased or expuned from their
record after seven, I believe. Okay. So,
and they were in the system. So, they
they went through the process to do
parenting classes and become foster
parents and they got custody of the
younger two. So, whenever I hear a
conversation like this, I always want to
ask the what feels like an obvious
question, but it's only obvious when
you're looking from the outside. It's
really hard to see on the inside. What
of this can you do anything about? And
the way you've outlined it, you can't do
anything about your mom's behavior.
She's been who she's been forever. You
can't do anything about your dad's
behavior. He's been who he is forever.
Mhm. And um the state has awarded these
children, right? So what can you
actually control here? I guess you could
sue for custody if you want to take the
two girls or you can have this big like
this big um I call it like a William
Wallace type speech to your dad and
maybe you'll get through to him which I
can tell you right now you won't like
and so I'm wondering like no I've
already done that. There he goes. Right.
So what are you looking for? Like what
are you hoping happens? Maybe some
advice on how to proceed because I know
my mom's a lost cause for me. Um given
our history we're not on speaking terms.
Your dad is too. He's made That's I
guess the the tough pill. It is.
Behavior is a language. And he's told
you for the last 20 years he's not
interested in your advice or wisdom. And
that's really hard to hear on No. And
I'm saying it kind of callously and
direct, but he doesn't care what you
have to say. No, he doesn't. It never
affects his actions. And I convinced him
two or three times to leave her. And
he's always on board. And he, you know,
I have a a big house with a basement
that him and the girls can move in with
me cuz I have a 10-year-old, too. I
mean, I have I have four kids and we
have plenty of space for them. And I'm
like, "Dad, just get away. Just get
away. Every time you do this, this just
damages you. It damages your soul. It
damages your spirit. It's affecting
those girls and you're teaching them and
conditioning them that this is okay
behavior." And it's not. And it took me
years to figure that out myself. Yeah.
Yeah. So, I don't know if I should just
wash my dad off and be like, "Daddy, I
love you. You're my favorite person in
the whole world, but I cannot. I don't
know that you wash him. I don't know
that you wash him. I don't know if you
wash your hands of him. He's still your
dad, but um he is he's my favorite human
being. You might quit trying to fix him.
Yeah. You live in reality.
Yeah. So, I guess that's what I was
asking for is just maybe a secondary
opinion on on looking at this from the
outside and telling me I'm doing
everything I can the right way and
there's no fixing them because they
don't want to be fixed. Exactly. There
you go. And that's really one of the
hardest things in adulthood is that
other adults are allowed to misbehave
and you can't make them not.
If they called here, I can hang up on
them and move on to the next one. But
but I can't make them I can't make them
go on and do it, right? Um I wish they
would cuz I know what would happen if
they did change and and I know that this
can be fixed. I know that, you know, the
power of God in their life, for
instance, could intersect either your
mom, dad, or both. And you know, in a
matter of months, I've seen people
change their whole households. Um, and
then they seek out the therapy to finish
the work and they do all the stuff they
need to do. But, um, none, you know, my
grandmother used to say those convinced
against their will are of the same
opinion still.
And so, that that you're just, you know,
you're just barking at a brick wall is
what you're telling us. I mean, so I I
think you pray for them. And and I think
if you uh ever think of someone that
might speak into their life that they
might listen to cuz it's not you, that
you send that person over there. If
there's an uncle or a cousin or someone
that they admire or a pastor that they
say they like, um have them speak into
it cuz maybe they have a foothold. Maybe
they have a tow hold of credibility. But
um and you might write you you might
write your father a letter and just call
it my last my last my last letter,
right? And I'm still going to love you.
I just need you to see in writing. You
always have an open door at my house.
Yeah. And maybe when you start talking
and start lecturing him, he shuts you
off. Like he shuts off his wife. Um
that's just his default setting. maybe
um around the glow of uh you know the
refrigerator at 11 o'clock at night when
all the other lights are off in the
house, he reads that letter and he
exhales and says, "I'm going to go."
I I wish that would happen. I know. I
know. And have you have you
reach out to I am married. I'm happily
married. So So have you and your husband
talked about taking in the two girls. Is
that a possibility?
You know, I was married before when they
were born to my ex-husband and having a
new baby ourselves. He refused to let me
take the twins in cuz they were drug
addicted. They were in the NICU and he
refused to let me take them in. But what
I did is I raised them in the form of
daycare until they went to kindergarten.
Okay. But what about right what about
right now? Right now? No. They're in
school. No. Would you would you take
them if they would let you? 100%. Okay.
Make that make that offer in the letter
then. There you go. Yeah. maybe make
that offer and say, "We would love to
let them grow up around their cousins
and take that burden from you guys."
Yeah, you guys deserve to be free in
your uh retirement years. There you go.
And um you know, we we um that'd be an
interesting thing to see happen. But
yeah, I I think you're right. You just
got to lay it out there. Yeah, it's
heartbreaking, man. It's heartbreaking.
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