In today’s episode, we sit down with legendary singer-songwriter Lee Greenwood for an intimate conversation about the origins of his iconic anthem, his musical journey, and the deeper meaning behind “God Bless the USA.”
Greenwood reflects on growing up with humble beginnings, working nightclubs at age 15, and eventually building a remarkable career spanning decades. “Music was my foundation, but it wasn’t until my 20s that I found my voice,” he shares.
He opens up about writing “God Bless the USA,” the conscious decision to put faith and country at the heart of the lyrics, and how the song became a rallying cry for generations during moments of national crisis. “Putting God first was never a question,” he says.
Beyond the music, Greenwood discusses faith, family, his collaboration with Drew Jacobs that took the anthem to the rock charts, and his role with the Kennedy Center and the National Council on the Arts. He also shares stories from recent performances, including the 2024 GOP convention, and his creation of the “God Bless the USA Bible.”
Join us for a heartfelt and inspiring conversation with one of America’s most enduring voices—one that reminds us what patriotism, perseverance, and purpose truly mean.
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I think your song, God Bless the USA,
transcends in so many ways, transcends
music, transcends entertainment. It
really goes beyond
u all of that. And I think a lot of it
has to do with kind of the way you
express it like you you kind of walk the
talk, right? You you you really feel it.
So tell us how did you come up with the
words, you know, the process you went
through to to to create the song and the
music. I've heard it said several times
that the words are indelible. Um I'm not
extremely prophetic and and I would tell
you that English was not a great subject
for me. However, because in my early
days I didn't make an awful lot of money
and sometimes I had to write letters to
people uh about expressing my sympathy
for not paying bills on time or
whatever. And I got pretty good at
letterw writing and and I got better at
English uh because every time I knew how
didn't know how to spell a word, I'd get
the dictionary and I look it up and so
I'm actually pretty good spelling. And
so the words and the and the dictionary
and the encyclopedia brings me to a
better understanding of geography. And
when I wrote God Bless USA, you notice
that I mentioned cities in God Bless,
which which if you get out of Compass
and you look at Nashville, Tennessee,
where I now res
reside and moved to uh in
1979, if you go from Nashville to St.
Louis or Chicago or Virginia or Fort
Lauderdale or Dallas, Texas, we're
almost in the center of that hub. And so
I'm I'm looking at the United States
before I wrote God Bless USA to find out
how I encompassed the entire country.
And remember this that I USA is maybe an
umbrella for my career because it's the
best known song I've ever had, but it's
not a parachute. And I say that because
I have 11 country songs that that went
number one
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more than life now more than
ever. Somebody's going to love you.
No matter what you do, I've lost her all
the way this time.
She's going
and 36 stu studio albums as a country
artist employed by five different record
companies. So that's first some and as a
singer musician and then a writer and
when I say God Bless USA represent my
entire career that may not be exactly
true. I was a performer of a well-known
performer in Nevada for 20 years. uh
from Reno and Lake Tahoe to Las Vegas
and beyond and moving to Nashville,
Tennessee and become a touring country
artist. Then I discovered a wider
breadth of the country that I could
relate to because I'm only from the West
Coast at first. And so knowing that um
God Bless the USA represented for me my
love of the country and it certainly has
taken on its own life. uh after um song
of the year in 1985 for the country
music association,
the song that lifted America uh during
the Gulf War presented by General
Schwarzko before they went to war with
Iraq. Um the attack on America in 2001,
which seems everybody had forgotten. Uh,
and I sang three times in New York City.
And you can Google the performance at
Yankee Stadium twice. Once for the
Fireman's Memorial and then for the
fourth game of the World Series and
Lifting America back up again off its
knees. I just watched that that
performance, the game for the Arizona
and the Yankees. And I have to say, you
you know, you you look a little bit
older, but not much older than you
looked back then. And that's pretty
amazing. But yeah, I I just watched that
a few minutes ago and that was pretty
pretty amazing. Yeah, please keep going.
You know, as an interesting sidebar,
I've just been nominated and elected uh
to be a member of Horatio Alger, which
is a society that supports young
scholars who had very adverse
beginnings. And one of my 12 uh
recipients who are all honored at the
same time is Ken Kendricks. Ken
Kendricks is owning and managing partner
of the Arizona Diamondbacks. And so we
had conversation about that fourth game
of the World Series that year between
the Yankees and the Diamondbacks in New
York City. And New York kept pulling it
out until the seventh game, which went
back to Arizona. And Arizona ended up
winning in the seventh game. But but
that moment, that defining moment of
America getting off its knees and me
purposely wearing the red, white, and
blue jacket. And there was a lot of
conversation about do you wear America's
colors as clothes?
Um, and of course I respected that. And
then Congress and the Supreme Court
basically said, you know, it's that's
not a desecration of our colors to wear
it as a piece of clothing. And then it
was Katie bar the door. Everybody
started wearing red, white, and blue of
everything. It wasn't necessarily
wearing and wrapping yourself in the
flag as an Olympian might do once they
win an Olympic med medal. But that
performance defined, I think, how I felt
about the country and how everybody else
felt about the country after we were
attacked by a terrorist organization,
which was a country without a flag. I I
want to ask you about the faith and the
role faith plays in uh not just in your
life, but in your in your artistic
endeavors, in your music, and
particularly in the in the God Bless the
USA, and how you thought about faith
when you when you wrote the song.
Um, glad you asked that. That it's
interesting about my personal life. Um,
my grandparents who were my guardians
made sure that they sent me to church
and I went to the First Baptist church
in North Sacramento when I sang in the
choir since I was like 9, 10, 11 years
old. I remember my first song that I
ever sang in church was Oh Holy Night.
And I was scared to death. Um because
the pastor was all full of brim and fire
and and and I was scared of him, you
know, but but singing in the choir gave
me a great deal of spirit and harmony
and and I I had such a very high voice
that I sang with the soprano section
which is all girls and that was good for
a young teenager. Uh I enjoyed having
the faith and the spirit. Now, as I
began to chase my career and I moved
away from home at 17 and went to Nevada,
I don't believe I had a lot of faith in
Nevada. I was was chasing my career so
very hard. I had a marriage and and a
divorce, another marriage and a divorce.
And it just I could not find the thing
that would keep my feet on the ground.
When I moved to Nashville,
um, I finally met the woman who I fell
in love with, uh, who was a former Miss
Tennessee, uh, Kimberly Payne. And, uh,
we remarried in 1992. And her family was
wonderful Christians. And they brought
me back to the faith that I had been
missing. And so, I had already already
written God Bless USA in a search for
that faith. But when Kim came into my
life in and uh I guess she was 89 1989
I'd already lived with my song for some
years as you know for six years and it
always already was heralded not just by
the country but the world as an American
anthem. Kim embraced that part of my
career uh and let me know that she
wanted me to have the strongest faith I
probably possibly could have. And I
believe she's the one that that brought
me back to belief that I knew was there.
I just was missing it.
Yeah. The reason I asked that is because
people of faith believe that um in in
many ways praying or honoring God gives
returns, right? And and I think most
would agree that America is blessed in
so many ways. I lived in a different
country and and I know what it's like.
And it's it's very different. It's it's
you know, we we have it much better
here. There's no question about it. So
when you have this song and I have to
say that because your song is so famous
and and so well known, it tends to
overlook your other aspect of the
career, you know, that that that that
just happens. But because of the title
of the song and the way you express it,
in a way it is honoring us or or thank
thanking gods or or asking us to bless
the USA. So that may actually have an
effect in some way in some form on the
country itself. Is that something you
ever thought about? Um I thought it very
very deeply when I wrote it. Um
um can you imagine if I wrote the song
that said um we believe in the USA, you
know, and u but I put God first. I mean
there's no it was a conscious thought.
There's no no doubt about it. And I I
remember the years that I did not and
and and did not have faith in my life.
Um, but I knew that it was missing and
and when I got to that moment when I
started writing USA, I'm sure there was
a belief in the country, there was a
belief in our military, there was a
belief that I was a Christian and needed
to express that. Um, so it played a very
important part in me writing the lyrics
of God Bless the USA. In your song
again, you're talking about the people
who gave their life for for this land
and how so many of us forget this,
right? And you know, it's been it's been
so long since World War II ended. And
you know, most people are either very
old or I remember Romania obtained its
independence from the Ottoman Empire in
1877. And they were trying for hundreds
of years to become independent, to have,
you know, their own land. Hundreds of
years. And then they finally did in
1877.
And in a way, I I realize how far we are
from appreciating what we have because
it's been peace for so long. And with
your song, you're reminding us and and
you know, you you're you're you're
bringing some issues up that otherwise
people, you know, would forget. So, how
do you think we can change the culture
more for people to appreciate more what
we have instead of complaining u that we
don't have? Well, I I I don't know that
people complain a lot about the country.
They may complain about taxes, um,
unfair job practices, unfair unions,
unfair freeways, too many too much
traffic. I mean, they complain about a
lot of things. I don't think people
really complain a lot about the country
to tell you the truth. They recognize
freedom is an overall protection for all
of us. And a lot of countries have still
struggled uh for freedom such as Africa
uh and and even people we consider our
allies are enslaved by different kinds
of things. Two weeks ago, we opened the
Medal of Honor Museum in Arlington,
Texas. It is a place where the highest
military honor is awarded those who do
extraordinary things under combat
service uh circumstances. U it's a
beautiful building and what everybody
should go see if you want to be
reminded. And they play God bless bless
the USA in the building and I was there
and I sang it live with a pageantry that
was unbelievable. The United States Air
Force marching band and the Colonial
Marching Band as well. uh and and just
star-studded from politicians to actors
and actresses. But about 16 or 17 of the
Medal of Honor recipients who were still
alive were there as well, who are all my
close friends. And uh if anybody wants
to know about patriotism, go there, read
the stories of the sacrifice the
military has paid for our freedom. You
were at the 2024 GOP convention in
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and then you
introduced President Trump. Um, and then
as you're singing, he's walking on the
stage with with his family as you're
singing. Can you describe to us the
feeling you have when he's walking
towards the stage as you're singing?
What did that feel like? I have an
interesting backstory for you on that.
The band that was uh hired to play the
RNC in Milwaukee all used to work for me
uh when I did my USO tours. They're
called Sixwire. uh with the addition of
one additional player who is was also a
friend and a great singer, the guitar
player. Um but they were the band when I
met my wife Kim in
1989. So I hadn't worked with them in
years, but because they worked for me
for 10 years during the time when God
Bless USA was just brand new, they knew
how I would perform it and they knew if
I wanted to make it go longer or
shorter. There was versions of it. So as
we begin to sing the entrance for the
president, he always comes into the
arena when the song begins. If I have
been singing to the track, it would have
been over in three and a half minutes
and he would still be
walking. So fortuitously for me, the
band knew that I wanted to go longer. I
didn't have to say it. And so when I
finished the first verse, I'm looking at
the president walking in, walking very
slow, very deliber deliberately. I knew
at that moment I'm going to have to make
this go longer. And so um I waited
waited until he and the band kept
playing the music till he got into the
box. Uh Vice President-elect Vance stood
next to him and then I got eye contact
with U. Trump Jr. and we we're friends
and and I I I noticed he had a very
solemn look about him. Not the jubilant
look you would expect for the election
now of his father. He was actually
scanning the room looking for any
possible threat and and I knew that that
was the case. I too was a little nervous
about that because he'd just been shot.
Yes. And so, um, when I got eye contact
with him and he gave me sort of a nod, I
knew that was the moment to finish the
song. So, before I did, I welcome the
president from sea to shining sea.
Ladies and gentlemen, the 45th president
of the United States and soon to be the
47th president of the United States.
Please welcome Donald J. Trump.
So, there you have it, folks. And the
place went crazy. And of course, I just
these are all his people. These are all
the people that, you know, want him to
be the next president. And he's
president-elect at this point. And so,
I'm I'm just talking from my heart. And
then I finish the song, which I often do
when I work live with him on the
campaign or sing any place where he is.
And he allows me to sing the entire song
while he stands next to me. And that's
happened numerous times. And I suppose
it might happen several times again, but
we'll have to