In this episode of Decode with Dhruv, we're talking about Death Note, the legendary anime series that took the world by storm in 2006. What makes this series great? What is Anime, and how are these 'cartoons for adults' different from the cartoons we watched as kids? What are the characteristics that make Anime and Manga culture so unique?
We try and answer these questions while speaking with Animator Somnath Pal (Death of a Father, Sons of Ram) and Dubbing Artist Sonal Kaushal (Doraemon, Chhota Bheem).
Quick Guide: 00:00 Justice for Dhruv 00:25 Cartoons for Adults 00:51 Understanding Anime and Manga 01:43 India’s Perception of Anime 02:29 Death Note’s Creators 03:00 A Unique Story 03:51 Vigilante Justice 04:31 The Philosophy of Justice 04:50 Flop Live Action Versions 05:34 Otaku Culture 05:56 It’s All in the Rules 06:51 Just Draw It 07:15 The Struggle of Animating 07:44 Interview with Somnath Pal 10:04 Sub or Dub? 10:59 Interview with Sonal Kaushal 13:35 Conclusion
Credits: Created and Produced by: All Things Small Producer: Devaiah Bopanna Writer: Mohammad Hussain Executive Producer & Director: Rigved Siriah Design: Mihir Lele Graphics and Animation: Mihir Lele & Kshitij Verma Title Track: Mehar Chumble & Sharukh Makani Associate Producer: Eeshita Chinmulgund Researcher: Poorna Swami Creative Producer: Deloret Imnidian
Follow Sonal Kaushal on: Youtube: / @the_motormouth
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Yes, I know that Death Note doesn't work like this.
People die in it.
But the concept is a bit morbid.
By the way, how is this cartoon for adults?
Cartoons are for kids, right?
In which there is violence as well.
So, only minor injuries are inflicted.
No blood loss.
So, what is this?
What are these cartoons made for adults?
What are they?
Why are there no such cartoons in India?
And are anime shows better than live action shows?
Friends, before talking about Death Note,
let's understand the meaning of Cartoons, Anime, Manga and Comics.
And what is the difference between them?
Look, the full form of Anime is Animation.
It's simple.
But in Japan, this word has no special meaning.
All the animated shows there are called Anime.
But in the rest of the world,
the meaning of Anime has become Japanese Animated Shows.
Especially those shows whose themes don't cater to kids
but are made for adults.
This concept becomes a bit complicated in India
because here we consider animation to be just a cartoon.
Which is made for kids.
Anime itself is not a genre.
Anime can be of any kind.
Comedy, Romance, anything.
Like Bollywood itself is not a genre.
And as far as Manga and Comics are concerned,
there is a big difference here.
Manga means Black and White Comics.
Which is very famous in Japan.
It is artistically very different from Marvel and DC Comics.
All the popular Anime shows of today
used to be Manga only.
Death Note, Naruto, Pokemon, Dragon Ball Z, Attack on Titan,
all these Anime shows are very popular in India.
But due to public perception,
Anime channels couldn't stay in India for a long time.
The Anime on TV was never able to remove that cartoon image.
In India, there are no examples of such adult cartoons.
And now, Japanese Anime can only be found on OTT platforms.
Along with Japanese Animated Shows,
there are other Adult Animated Shows on Netflix.
Like Rick and Morty and Bojack Horse.
But what was so special about Death Note?
That some schools in China
had to ban merchandise related to Death Note.
Because the kids of the school
started writing their enemies or teachers' names
in Death Note books.
Death Note's TV show was released in 2006.
And Manga was launched in 2003.
But right after the launch,
creators Sugumi Oba and Takeshi Obata
came to know that
they've got the horse of a long race.
Sugumi Oba himself is an interesting character.
He's like Death Note's reclusive genius,
Lead Investigator L.
He doesn't know much about it.
And Sugumi is a man
whose revelation was recently made.
It was recently revealed.
Maybe he doesn't want to reveal his real name
so that no one can write his name in Death Note.
Along with the concept, the story is quite unique.
Some elements of the story,
like Shinigami,
which only Death Note's owner can see,
are inspired by Japanese mythology.
Death Note is a crisp and tight show
If you look at it deeply,
it's a story of power and power's addiction.
Both characters consider themselves
the guardians of justice.
Light, who is an ordinary student,
gradually becomes a criminal himself
to justify his ends.
And in classic Japanese anime fashion,
Shinigami's motivations and desires
are shown in an elaborate manner.
This is something that Japanese anime
can do very successfully.
They know how to give a complicated
and rich backstory
to even the smallest of things.
Maybe that's why in Naruto or Dragon Ball Z,
one fight scene can run
for 20-30 episodes.
Because every fight has
a tragic backstory.
With great power comes great responsibility.
Along with such dialogues,
Death Note and Spider-Man-Batman
have a common thing
that their lead character is a vigilante.
Looking at superhero movies,
we also think that all these vigilantes
are good people.
But those who beat the law
with their hands,
they also think that they're doing the right thing.
In Death Note, Light feels that
whatever he's doing,
he's doing it for good,
no matter how wrong it is.
Everything is justified because his ultimate goal
is to make the world a better place.
This is the same ideology
of his counterpart, L.
Both of them feel that they're justice.
Greek philosophers also say that
the veil of justice remains only
when we're afraid of getting caught.
When Light leaves Death Note
and his memory is lost,
he becomes a better boy again.
But as soon as power returns,
his God Complex returns
and in the end, everything becomes justified
Along with these comic books,
one more thing is very similar in animes
and that is their full-length
live-action Hollywood adaptations.
Attack on Titan, Dragon Ball Z,
all these major anime hit shows
have definitely become a flop Hollywood movie.
All these Hollywood adaptations
have never been able to capture
the essence of anime or manga.
Maybe because of the stylized nature of anime,
it becomes very difficult to do it in live action.
In Death Note, even the scene
with the camera cuts and direction
has been shown to be so dramatic
that even Ekta Kapoor will feel shy.
Such powerful sequences in live action
look boring because
to make them realistic,
the style becomes weak.
But such adaptations have never been
liked by Japan's otaku and fans all over the world.
Otaku is a term in Japanese culture
that describes those people
who love their computers more than people
and are experts in some areas of pop culture.
Those who don't like going out,
those nerds and engineers
are called otaku.
The personality of the main characters
and the puzzle-solving nature of the show
is perfect for otaku culture.
All the twists and turns of the show
are based on the rules already set.
Light makes his plan
with the rules already set.
For example, after killing Naomi's fiancé,
to find out Naomi's real name,
he lies and takes a page of Death Note
with him.
Anyone would doubt the book
but a paper is a normal thing.
This death scene of Naomi
is also a good transition point
of Light's transformation towards Kira.
It started with the book
but as it progresses,
Kira hides a page of Death Note
in his watch as well.
There are no shocking twists,
but brilliant moves which are mind-blowing
because despite knowing all the clues,
it is not straightforward to know what happens next.
These obsessive characters are the lead characters
Light and L
think a little differently.
L can never sit on a chair properly.
Earlier, the term otaku was used as an insult
but today, the popularity of these people
and this term has increased a lot.
It's not like all the Japanese anime shows
cater to adults only.
Shinchan has been watching
Indian kids for years
and even adults can enjoy the humor of this show.
Anime is a tool of storytelling
which helps in showing extraordinary stories
because you can draw
in any way you want.
You don't have to follow
any laws of physics or gravity.
You just need the artist's imagination.
By the way,
in Japan's animation industry.
There is a lack of talent and money in the industry.
Entry-level animators
get 200 yen for a drawing
which is only 2 dollars or 150 rupees.
It takes a lot of time to make a drawing
and it's not like
by increasing your level and experience,
your returns and salary will increase.
At least,
in the world and in Japan,
the artist's struggle is very common.
To know more about this,
we spoke to an expert.
Friends, today we are talking to
Somnath Pal who is an animator
and director. He is the writer and director
of Death of a Father and he has worked
on Amar Chitrakatha's Sons of Ram.
There are animated shows
that cater to adults.
Why don't we have such shows in India?
In Japan,
obviously, they were inspired
by American animation.
Definitely, it is like that.
But at the same time, if you see in the West,
it started with appealing kids.
When the animation
consuming audience was growing,
they were craving for
animation and they were
creating
animation that they could watch.
Our previous generation,
our fathers,
they never watched animation.
We have been privileged to
get exposed to, say,
India's first animated series which was Gaya Baya.
Then there is,
we got exposed to Cartoon Network,
Dexter, Samurai Jack,
we watched all of them.
I feel that it is just a matter of
time that this switch will happen.
The end product
that the consumer consumes,
suppose there are
a lot of
less budget shows in America,
like BoJack Horseman,
or
South Park,
whose production value is not that good.
The content was
intellectually catering to a certain kind
of audience,
which is not offended by offensive humor.
To explore all these things in India,
I feel that
there should be enough experiments.
The success of any medium
depends on
having enough failures
so that you can understand
that these are failures,
these are laggings.
Personally, I would like to ask you,
you must be watching anime shows,
what do you prefer?
Subtitles or dubbing?
Oh, I am a sub guy.
Especially, Japanese content
is culturally very rich.
Not just Japanese,
pick any content from anywhere,
pick Polish films,
Estonian films, Russian films.
So,
the cultural nuances
emerge when it is in the original language.
It doesn't emerge in dubbing.
Along with animation,
Japanese anime shows have to be translated
for Western audiences.
And here comes the biggest question
for an anime fan.
Do you watch anime shows with English dubbing
or with subtitles?
Are you team subs
or team dubs?
There is a lot of discrepancy
in the anime community.
Purists believe that shows should be watched
in the original language.
And if you don't find it difficult
to watch shows with subtitles,
you won't like the voices of
characters dubbed in English.
In fact, in South India and North India,
the dubbing of Pokemon and such cartoons
is shown on TV.
In South India, there is English dubbing
and in North India, there is Hindi dubbing.
Today, the industry of dubbing has grown a lot.
Big Bollywood film stars
like Shahrukh Khan, Anil Kapoor, etc.
have dubbed for big Hollywood movies.
To understand the art of dubbing,
we spoke to an expert.
So, friends,
today we are talking to Sonal Kaushal
who is a dubbing artist and YouTuber.
And he has given his voice
in shows like Doraemon and Chota Bheem.
And he also makes content
So, when you do dubbing,
do you literally translate everything?
Or sometimes there are some jokes
that only work in Japanese?
Sometimes you have to adapt.
And our scriptwriters
play a very big role in this.
Sometimes it is literally written
and we change it on the table,
on the mic.
Many times we change the dialogues.
The dubbing directors,
we change it together.
So, according to India,
you bring a little Indian touch
in the dialogues and jokes.
Yes, we have the liberty
and we do it.
Nowadays, you must have seen
that Bollywood stars have also
started dubbing.
As a dubbing artist,
do you know when a dubbing artist
is dubbing or when a Bollywood star
is dubbing a Hollywood film?
Voice acting and acting
are very different.
I think voice acting
requires a different push
because
you have only one medium
to reach your audience.
When you are on camera,
you are visible.
So, you can express
with your face,
body and voice.
For example, there is a Bollywood hero
and he is dubbing a Hollywood
superhero, let's say.
So,
he does it
in his own style.
He can't
sit in the character.
A voice actor can
create different characters
with his voice.
We are so trained
that it is easy for us.
But if there is a hero,
he can't do it.
This is true.
Some people prefer dubbing
and some prefer subtitles.
Who do you prefer?
Personally,
I prefer dubbing.
I haven't watched
many subtitles.
I tried once
but I didn't like it.
So, I think
dubbing is better for me.
Nowadays,
many anime fan clubs
want
dubbing in India.
Recently,
I dubbed Chihiro
in Written Away.
I got so much love for it.
So, I think
dubbing is better
for me.
As we saw,
there are many anime fans
in India.
But majority still
prefer cartoons.
Hence, there is no
adult-oriented animated show in India.
Anime and manga
have a different meaning
in Japan and the rest of the world.
It is surprising
how many innovations
have spread
on a small island.
Hollywood hasn't learned
the original's success.
One Punch Man,
Naruto, One Piece
will have live action movies.
Naruto is an iconic series for me.
So, I hope they can do it justice.
I hope you liked this episode.
Tell me in the comments
which show should I talk about next week.
Till then, thank you.