Explore the latest episode of Baghban, delving into the topic of “Child Labor” or “Kam Umar Bachon se mazdoori krnwana”. In this episode, the program's host, Mr. Syed Arif Rizvi engages in an insightful discussion with esteemed guest Ms. Ansa Asim (Social Activist) addressing the following concerns in depth: • What are the laws related to child labor in our country? • What are the basic reasons for children to work in shops & garages? • Are parents unaware or compromise on the importance of education? • What is the ratio of child labor on gender basis in Pakistan? • Do parents become helpless to compromise on child's education due to poverty? • Education is not affordable in our society! • Is continuation of child labor based on hereditary mentality? • What are the long term psychological effects on child laborers? • Possibility of child laborers to become criminals! • What laws are available to control child labor? • What is the percentage of resistance among parents who support child labor? • Practical measures at national level to control child labor!
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So do these parents not understand the importance of education
or do they know it but they compromise on it.
Boys work more
or girls work more.
If the parents know the importance of education, then are they
forced to deprive the children of education and
send them to work. If there is
awareness, then despite that does it not happen
that education is not affordable. In our
country, a child who has been put into child labour,
what is the effect on him/her? There is a
high possibility that these children
become criminals later on. Are there no such
raid laws that can be
checked where the children are
doing minor work? What law is
available? What kind of laws do we have to
control this? Do we register our children on the day of work or
not? Our children have to work anyway. What
practical steps should be taken
at the public level to stop
or reduce this? So should a child under 10
years of age be put to work? Is
this ethically correct? Is it
not necessary that a child should be put to work? Take initiative and run a public
service campaign, run a public awareness
campaign. It is necessary to stop or reduce this.
Baj Billa Shaitan Razi Bismillah Rahman Rahim
Assalam Walekum Nazreen Once
again in the program Bagh Paan, Khushamdid,
giving education is one of the important duties and responsibilities of a father
and most of the parents also carry out this work,
some with great difficulty and
some with less importance,
but at least they send their children to schools for
studies, but there are some
parents who are completely careless about this
and they do such injustice to their children
that they deprive them of education, not
only that they do not let them get education
or they do not go to get education, but
instead of education they
put small children to some work in the town so that it can
become a source of livelihood for them also. This is
correct in its place that when the work is bad, then a
person needs a business to run his house,
but this does not mean that
That a person should be born in a wrong way
or should go towards a business. Just as
doing any haraam work is not permissible in any case,
similarly, depriving children of education and
putting them to work is also
considered as one of the haraam works
because you have deprived children of their right to education.
We do not care about rights.
We must have committed many atrocities on our children which
we do not even realize.
We probably do not even count them.
We are doing wrong things and
violating their rights. The responsibility of parents is
first of all the
survival of children, giving them protection, giving
them safety and security, then
education, after that the religious rights which are
imposed on children are on parents
with regard to children, like arranging their marriage, getting them
married at the right place, doing good deeds
when it is needed. All these
things are among the duties of parents.
Teaching them good morals, teaching them respect,
keeping them safe from every evil. But if instead of this, If
parents put their children to work for the sake of their
children, then this is not justified. Today,
according to the statistics available in Pakistan, about 8 million
children are involved in child labour, who are
doing some work in some way or the other. This is about 8 to 10 percent of the
total child population of the country.
Today, we are going to discuss on this topic
that what is child labour, what are its
causes, how to stop it. And
like always, today also we have a special guest with us,
Madam Ansa Asim Sahiba, who is the
President of SKV Foundation and she
also runs a charity school for children, in which she has made accommodation for
such poor children who cannot
study.
Insha Allah, in this program, we will be pleased to discuss with you on this topic,
which is perhaps not talked about so much,
but because it is related to children
and our channel and this program are
related to the upbringing of children, therefore, every topic which is
related to any child. We will
discuss here if we keep it. Insha Allah, we will ask you
a few questions on this. So, first of all, I would
like to know from you what is the
law in the country regarding child labour. Upto what age is the
child not allowed to do
any job or any work that the parents do not make him do.
If we talk about our own
community, then we want that
our child should never do any such work
that we do not want to do. So, other
children, as soon as they open their eyes, a
broom is handed over to them. So,
legally, I think, even
in Islam, it is there that you should educate your child for 10 years
and after 10 years, you give
him that responsibility. So, the
period of 10 years from birth, the
education of the child is to be given to him with a lot of love, in which
he is learning.
If during that time, a broom is handed over to him
or he is handed over to other people, then
you do not educate him, the parents do
not educate him, his education is done by
other people. From their words, from their
taunts, from the things that they do not do
with their children, that is, in general we
can say that a minor, whom they classify,
Islam has its own definition of
minor and Islam has its own definition,
somewhere it is 18 years, somewhere it is 16 years, so making a
minor work is not legally permitted
and it is also considered a crime by law, there
can also be a prosecution for this if someone
complains, but there is child labour in such a large number in
our country, often if you
go on the streets, you can see children begging somewhere, so what is the
basic reason why
these children work like this, what is the reason,
what would be the basic reasons for this, actually it
happens that first of all our
economic status has become very low,
people do not have two meals a day, the person whose
stomach is not full
cannot send anyone to school, he cannot send his child to school, so
what does he do, he says I am
earning myself but I am not able to survive, so
I will send my child also for 10-15 Hajj
or even I can get them employed at someone's house for Rs. 5000 and they will do
their work and our
livelihood will continue. The other
thing in this is that they get some money from it and
if the same people are harassing them
in any case, then they say that
this is the way to salvation for us that if we
send them to work in their house, then in
return they will
not harass us in any way, we will
live our life comfortably, we will
remain settled where we are, our children will keep
working for them, but they are not looking at that long term
process that
what role are they playing in their upbringing, what will that
child do when he grows up,
do these parents not know the importance of education or
they know but they
compromise on it, some
know how important education is and many do
not know because education is awareness,
if they were aware, they would never have
sent their child to someone's house or to a shop or for child labour, so there is a
lack of awareness in our country, right? Not
only among them but also among people like us,
when the same people come to our houses to work
with their children, then
why don't we create awareness for them
that their child should be
in school or that he should be seen working in our house, do
boys work more
or girls work more, there is
a lot of gender discrimination, so
where boys are working, there are
problems of girls, like you will see
boys working at tandoors and puncture shops,
but in the houses of mothers,
their daughters go with their mothers to work, so there are as many girls
working as there are boys, in
my opinion, the dominance of girls is also
more because girls are made to work
and they are married at the age of 13 to 14 years
because they cannot bear the burden after that
and a big
reason for this is also that they themselves are
not so strong that they can raise their children, so they
think that they will get them married, so
among girls, here
in our society there is also a concept that girls If one does not get education, it does not
matter because of which
instead of the girl sitting at home, if she gets some work, she will
also get income,
this is also a reason, but what I was
asking earlier, that if the
father knows the importance of education, that the child should be educated, he should be
educated, then in that condition
also he becomes so helpless due to poverty that
he deprives his child
of education and sends him to work,
see, nobody wants that his
child should work in somebody's house or that
someone should say bad things to his child, when
I have been in this sector for 8 years, when we were working in this direction, it was not that they did
not want their children to study, they used to go begging, they used to
work in houses too, when
we created awareness in them that you should
not be dependent on anybody, you have
not come in this world to do this in front of anybody, you should
become a giver, you should try, I told you once, I
told you twice, I counselled them a little,
but they backed out from begging and started working
in other people's houses. Or with other things also, we just
lack awareness that they do not know
what they can do, they
think that if the child is not able to study or
we do not have enough jobs, then what
option do we have, they think that this is the only option,
if he cannot do it then put him to work,
if there is awareness, then
despite that does it not happen that education is
not affordable here, not here, there are many such
as we had started, we have
90 such children in Lahore who
were earlier in child labour, now they
also study in school, their parents, it is not that
their parents did not resist,
their children also used to go with them, they were
getting money, they had
sold their children for 10-10 thousand for the whole year,
but after counselling them,
we realised that we can change it,
this trend which has started
can be changed through counselling and with these things,
education in Pakistan has increased so much that
as you told, 8 million
students are in child labour, not just this much, there are
many such NGOs are working, just
like we work, there are many NGO
sectors, there are many government
schools too which are imparting education and
what cannot be found after searching, is
this not hereditary, for example, there is a person
who has worked since childhood, now he has grown up,
he too has children, he also thinks that whatever
I have been doing, my children should also do the same
or this is very less, the element of
hereditary, whatever he has done, he does not want his
children to do this work, he should study, it is
hereditary, there is a very large number, it is hereditary,
like if you look at the people of Jugi, their
generations after generations have been begging or
generations after generations they are in child labour and they
learn themselves, they feel that this is the
best, they feel that this is hard work,
I asked a question to an aunty that aunty
why is your child not coming to school, we are
providing everything for free, still why is
your child not coming to school, don't
you feel like that your child should
study and do something else, should beg then
And I said that you should earn by working hard,
then she said that it is hard work, she told me that I should
go and earn by working hard,
for them that was hard work because nobody
ever told them this, so it is
obvious that when they are given a
job by their parents, for them the job is a
very cruel job, there is no place for them in it,
now here this is the perspective of the parents,
but
if we come to that child, that child who has been put into child labour
and he also sees
that other children are
going to school, studying, I am
working, then what is the effect of nafs on him
and to what extent does it prevail,
till he becomes an adult or
in his whole life, some such feelings arise in him
that we think that this
child has not been brought up well, but he
learns those things only when he is working in someone’s house
or he is working with someone, you must have seen that
he does not get so much respect, rather he gets
respect. No, they are small, let us make them small, the one who is
small, actually he becomes
much older than his age,
long back when he learns things very quickly
and learns in a negative way, then when he
converts into youth, now after 10, 15, 20
years when the same children will become youth, then
how will our youth be, our youth will
not have those qualities which we want to see,
we cannot expect those productive things from our youth
because we have
not given them such a childhood, their parents and the
whole crowd have failed in this thing that
they should have been given a good childhood so that their
youth would be good and they care for the good generation, that
is, he has not been taught the difference between good and bad from childhood, so
now he
can do any evil for his benefit, that is, often the
possibility is that the child who does not study
goes into labour in childhood and goes into
labour in such an environment where
he is harassed, there is a feeling of deficiency in him
and there is a
high possibility that these children
become criminals later, of course
because You must have seen that
this thing is prevalent in them, they
beat their children for every small thing, they get beaten for every small thing, they
think that work will be done only
when they are beaten because they are getting beaten
and they are working, they
think that work will be done only if they raise their hands, so this
thing of theirs goes ahead, so they say that
work will not be done until they raise their hands, then the same
things come towards theft, after theft,
robbery, after that murder and all the things, then the
crime starts like this, then their
conscience is lost somewhere in childhood itself, that
element of conscience is not there in
them, that means if I
say a statement here in simple words,
we install CCTV cameras in our houses
and install barbed wires, post security
guards to save ourselves from criminals, in
reality we ourselves are creating these criminals in
our country,
we are responsible for this, we see these things in
front of our eyes, we
also use them, we also take advantage of them and
then these people become criminals
later on. We try to protect ourselves from them.
Here, a child is
deeply affected by nafs. It is
almost impossible that a complex problem does not
arise in him. So,
what laws are available? What kind of laws do
we have to control this? For example, you can
see that there are food authorities, they
raid restaurants. There are
hospital authorities, health
councils, they raid hospitals to check whether they are of good
quality or not.
What are they doing? Are there no such
raid laws that can be checked
where children are doing minor jobs
and those people who
employ them should be penalized? A lot of work has been done on this.
Child protection bureaus have been formed earlier also,
in which those children are taken in,
adopted, and then they are educated and
trained. But in Pakistan, the
ratio has become so high that
they also have to sustain themselves. So,
we do not have financial stability
in Pakistan and our economic status is low.
They are very poor and there is political instability. So when their dues are not being met,
they have so much over capacity for the
children that they are
not able to do all these things because the
conditions of our country are not such that they can
adopt everything, that is, this is a serious
issue. Alhamdulillah, you have also
taken a step on this by bringing these children
to schools. As you said earlier, there is
resistance too. So to what extent, for
example, often people on days of 20, 50, 80
resist that no, our children have to
work only and not come here to
teach them. Or there is resistance from the
parents. There are two types of
resistance. One is the resistance of the parents
and the other is the resistance of the other,
for whom they are working.
When we started working and
started teaching them, the first
resistance came to us from both sides. The parents
wanted that their children should go to work.
Their children. We should bring them money but
our counselling is not such that I
explained it to them once and they understood, I told them once, twice, once a
week, while coming and going again and again, I told them to
send him to study, then they see
that the child from the Jugi next to them is going to
study and he is learning, he is
staying clean, he is speaking well,
they saw him and then sent their child, the
second resistance came from the Mahashe, the people of the
nearby kothis even threw garbage on us
just because we were teaching them
and when those children did not go to work in their houses,
their household chores were
not getting completed, they were harassing us,
criticising us, even such things,
but till a point of time, selfishness is of such an extent
in our minds that if for our own small
gains, someone's life or someone's future gets
ruined, so be it, we do
not care about it and I think this
selfishness is often in our minds
because we do not have values here, we
only look at our caste, our self-respect, our interests. We do
n't see that
because of my own interest, how
much loss is being caused to someone else, we ignore it.
You have given a great example, that is, a
live example, that those people who are making just
one child work at home are
showing resistance, whereas millions of
children are involved in such work.
Now, we move towards one last question here, which will be a
little more detailed,
that what should be the practical steps at the public level to
stop or reduce this,
first of all, the
awareness of the parents, counseling them, you will see that we cannot remove that
child from that tandoor, from that house,
but what we can do is that the
child who is coming to work in our house, you should
teach him for an hour, you should spend one or half an
hour of your time with him, train him so that what
you can do is if everyone starts doing this
that the children who are coming to work in their houses
or the
child who is coming to the tandoor to work there for
half an hour daily, he should be given some work. Teach him and
tell him at least he should be able to read so much
that he can write his name, he
can differentiate between right and wrong, good and bad,
he should be able to see in the senses of good and bad. It is not necessary that any
degree be given. What you are talking about is about
those children who are above minor age,
i.e., under minor, for example,
from Islamic point of view, a girl who is 9-10 years old is a
minor, after that she becomes an
adult, so should a girl under 10
or a child under 13 be employed, is
this ethically correct? No, it is
not right at all, he should
not be employed at all. So, in principle, we should register
that brother, we will not employ this child, we will
not keep him on employment,
that means we should not encourage these
things, I think we should encourage them, for
example, if I go to a puncture shop,
if
a small child comes to fill air in my tyre, I think I should
register him there and should
not get air filled from that child, I think I am
not right, if you want to sympathize here then the
sympathy is to make
arrangements for his education or why is he doing this, then
we should
not entertain such children who do prostitution,
if we don't do it then only
it will come under control, when they will not get anything,
they will see that nobody gives our children a
job or money, then they will
naturally come to the right path,
we will never make our child work, if our
small child picks up something then
we quickly catch him so that it does
not hurt him and if you give a knife in the hand of the same child then
how does our conscience
not blame ourselves for giving that knife in his hand, so
first of all we should
create an awareness in our society
that our conscience should wake up that
what things we have to see and what things
we have to avoid, no our conscience is
dead right now, we
talk about those children who are doing labour,
right now we should stay away from them There is neither sympathy
nor any concern about their future.
Today in a world where 200 Haj children have been
murdered within three months, does our conscience
awaken? It is like this there, no
conscience awakens. Neither the
system that you have started here, to what extent have
you spread it to these children or is it
limited to your own locality only?
We started with 30 children
in a slum, in which we taught 30 children who used to go
begging or who worked in other people's houses.
From that one slum, we created a bamboo
structure in which the
number of children increased to 40-45, but that place was becoming
too small for us. Now, Mashallah,
in 2021, after Covid, we have built a container-
based school, that is,
a portable structure by joining three containers,
in which there are 90 such slum students who
properly do their education, their training, do they do it
full time or part time. timing
means the children who probably work during the day
and come to you to study or not, they only
study, their school timing is proper,
they only study, they do not do labour work, they do
not do any labour work because
how did we solve the issue of their parents' income,
first of all we give food to the children,
we give them daily meals in school,
because if they are
not able to study then they cannot study to their maximum
capacity, so not
only we are educating them, we also
feed them properly, then the child who
performs well is given Rs 1000, shouldn't
this
awareness campaign be run in the system that
we should not make the children work, it should definitely be run,
social media is very important nowadays social
media is the power, social media is the voice,
you all should do it
together, now you yourself said that many
NGOs do this work, I think
NGOs do a reactive work,
for example, one thing has happened, now apply balm on that If
we do
not invest our capital to find the root cause of the problem, then is it not necessary
that someone takes an initiative, whether it is NGOs or
media,
and run a public service campaign, a public
awareness campaign that we do not entertain ourselves about
child labour. I think the most
effective thing is that
when the receiver is not ready to receive, the giver will be
compelled to give, then it is
exactly like this, it
should be exactly like this, we people,
this is the world of ours, that when that thing happens,
we start working, we
show our reaction, just like here, right now there is a lot of
movement on driving license,
why should everyone have a driving license, because the six criminals were murdered,
after that this started, so why do we
want to reach something after which there is a
crackdown on it, why do
n't we sense it beforehand and work on it, have
you heard anywhere, religious personalities, Ulema do this work? Do you ask, is there any Khudbuda on Jumma? I did not
see it anywhere, that is why
I am asking you. No, he is not
doing any work on it, nor does anybody speak on it,
because there are no listeners. We people only want to
say what people want to hear
and people want entertainment. We are
self-centered, we only think about ourselves, we do
not think about others,
and this is a very big thing. Here
I have a narration, that I because time is also running out,
but it is important, so I will
narrate it, it is from Rasulullah Salam
that his companions used to come and sit everyday, so once there was
a companion who used to come everyday,
but suddenly he was not seen for a few days, he
asked his others that where is he,
he was very poor too, he was not very
good, he was not a great scholar either, he was a very
simple person, so Rasulallah used to remember him everyday that why has
he not come for a few
days, so another companion went and
met him and asked what is the matter, what do you
do, that you are a great devotee, you are a
great Zahid, you are a scholar, I say so I am nothing,
I don't even read the maaz tahajjud, I offer the waz baat, I
just avoid the haraam, I do basic
work, you must be doing something like this, there is
just one thing inside me which I understand that
when I see someone in trouble, even if I don't have
anything,
I still sit with him with sympathy, so
here it is a big problem
that we don't feel pain,
only the pained people of the mass can do something, Alhamdulillah, it was
this pain that made you do this small
work, on an individual level, when
pained people start increasing in the mass, only then there is a
relief inside the mass, there is reform,
reform does not happen by seeing,
reform happens by pain, this pain is what we
lack here, as you said, the pain is
less because the place of pain has been
taken by the fun, entertainment, mashq lahab laha, that's
why we don't feel anyone's pain,
even those parents who make their
children do child labour, they do
n't feel the pain of their children
What will happen to these children, we are the candidates of the audience,
Insha Allah, we cannot solve all these issues in
every way, we
also have our own capacity to work on it, but at least
we try to do an ice-breaking session on the subject of these issues,
where there can be a start and all the
media channels, which do so much for
commercialization, should give some time to these
things as well and
make such programs on it, make short films or
make public service awareness messages, so that
we can get ourselves out of these mass evils and
especially the evils that are
with children, no matter whose child it is, he belongs to all of us, that child is a
child, that is
the future of a community, that is what we
see in the future, to protect them, to set them
right, to educate and train them,
this is one of our important duties, which
we should also carry out and where it is not
happening, we should warn them and those who are
not warned, You are a man of profit, try not to
become a part of it by your actions, do not encourage it, do
not entertain it, do
not get small children to do your work for your own benefit,
only then this issue can be solved, Insha Allah.
We will keep discussing with you on similar topics,
till the next episode, Allah Hafiz, please take
good care of me, with the support of my childhood,
I am dust, you
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