Selena Gomez, benny blanco & Gracie Abrams Talk "Call Me When You Break Up" | Apple Music

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Benny Blanco and Selena Gomez share the inception and evolution of their joint project. They join Zane Lowe on #NewMusicDaily, along with special guest Gracie Abrams to discuss the album and their latest single, “Call Me When You Break Up.”
Thank you for all coming together to celebrate this beautiful union of music.
And we have lots of fun things to talk about, but yeah, no longer a secret.
I feel like this was the best slash worst kept secret in music for a while.
And then on Friday, it all came flooding out and I'm going to start,
I'm going to go in deep, Selina.
You know, you and me, we don't muck around.
Nope.
I feel like when it comes to music, cause you have so much creative
energy in so many places, I'm never a hundred percent sure where your spirit
is with music at any time, because I can only, and this is me saying, imagine
that the idea of releasing songs comes with so much scrutiny and so much this
and that, but it's like, is it worth it at any time?
Does this feel different knowing that you have that love and support around this
project, just inherently through the process?
Definitely.
I, but I also, I think music in general is vulnerable.
So sometimes the idea get very nervous, but I think what's interesting about this
album is that most of these songs actually have multiple meanings from different
stories and it's interesting.
So it's, it's not like those words necessarily affect me.
Um, it can be like about something else.
So I guess it's up for interpretation, but.
Oh my God.
You just opened up the Easter egg hunt of all time.
Good luck with that one.
Okay.
Gracie, I wanted to talk to you, Gracie.
I want to talk to you about being able to, to sort of take a, just a brief moment away
from what's been the most successful 12 months of your life to date as an artist.
Yeah, man.
Major congratulations.
Got to drop one on that.
You know, it's, it's so, it's been beautiful as a fan and as someone who's, and all of
us on the call and beyond have watched this, this happen, but to be able to jump on a
song like this must've just been felt a lot of freedom to that, you know, because,
you know, you just get to have fun with your friends and kind of show up and be
your best self.
Did it feel different?
I mean, I'm just the biggest fan of both Selena and Benny and really have been
forever, like for as long as I've cared about music, both of their work has been
in, in my life.
And so like anything that they want from me is a yes forever.
And I just felt really grateful for the opportunity.
And also like just the song was immediately so stuck in my head as soon as I heard it
for the first time.
Of course, the opportunity to like write my verse on it, it just happened so quickly,
which I think is like such a testament to how like addicting the song is.
I think it was just.
No, it is.
It's in your head.
It's crazy.
And it's so both of them.
And I think again, just like, it's been so beautiful to have a tiny little window
into like the magic that they are independently and very much together.
It's like really sick, you know, having spoken to all three of you, but Selena, you
many times now, Benny, many, many times now.
And just to know that the two of you are owning this through the thing that you love
to do, which is to make art and to make music.
And so, so Benny, for you, I mean, just, just let's talk about the inception of this
project without getting too deep.
Hopefully that comes later.
The idea of this actually even becoming a reality, right?
Because not many people do this.
Like there's great albums throughout history of music where couples put their, put their
thoughts and emotions on record, but it's not common.
I know it was kind of like this aha moment.
Cause we were both in such a space where we were just like, what are we doing?
We've said everything we've wanted to, you know, you look at both me and Selena and
like, we've, we've, we've been fortunate enough to have these careers that have lasted
so long and, you know, and this was kind of just an idea that started in our bedroom.
And it was like, oh, like, let's just make something fun.
And then it actually was really good.
And I was like, holy, we have to do this.
And all the friends who made this album with us, it wasn't like today we're getting
together and we're making a hit song.
Like it was like, I would be like, Hey, Julia, Justin, you want to come over?
We've written for 15 years.
And so have you with Selena.
And like, it just, everything felt right.
And it like almost felt too good.
So I'm like, is this going to suck?
But, but I'm in that point right now where there's like that, those, those nerves right
before you do something, because you, you've had this whole thing for so long that nobody
hears.
That's so beautiful.
You still feel that though.
That's the point.
Are you kidding me?
So we, anytime it's like, we have this whole thing that nobody's heard yet.
Okay.
And then all of a sudden the whole world gets to hear it at once.
And it's like the biggest, it's like, I don't do drugs, but I feel like it's taking
like every drug at once.
And then you're just like, well, like you're like freaking out and it's, it, it's an
amazing experience.
You obviously have never done drugs because if you did that, you would be dead.
Yeah, exactly.
Um, it sounds fun.
This song in particular sounds fun, but the first song we heard was, is, is, you know,
a classic sort of, I would say a much deeper kind of foray into, into this experience
and, and that real vulnerability that Selena, you find the courage to be able to deliver
through performance when you go to those places.
What was the thinking behind going with that first?
We'll get back to this in a second, but only a few days ago, you know, we got the
first song co-written with Phineas as well.
And, and why did you decide to, to introduce this to us through that song?
It all happened very quickly.
So we actually were going with so many different ideas at once and it changed quite
often.
So I feel like it's safe to say we probably had like maybe three options that we were
going to go with, but, uh, personally, and then Benny, please add whatever you want.
It just felt like it was, it was a little taste of what we are and how we made this
together and, and we, you know, how much we loved it and how much we love each other.
And it just felt, it just felt like it was meant to be.
I feel like everyone's been somewhere and it's like that moment when you have to like
give yourself up to someone and you're a little scared because it's like, you know,
we all have a history in life and it's like, you're, you're so scared and you're
like, is this too good to be true?
And then it's like, you know, Selena, more than anybody else, you know, she's, she's
had such a journey in life, both, you know, personally, medically, so many other things.
And, and she's like, and she makes you just believe it.
She's like, you know, I'm not scared of dying young or anyone, but she's scared.
You know, she's scared of the fact of losing someone that she's finally created a
bond with, where she feels like comfortable enough.
And somehow by God's grace, I happen to be that person.
I have no idea why, but I am.
And.
No one asked me, but I didn't know that song when we like recorded our song together.
Like, I haven't heard the rest of this album.
I just was like, obviously yes to everything and anything ever, ever, ever.
But when you guys put this song out, it was like kind of exactly the right day for me to
like, lose my mind bawling.
You know what I mean?
And like to love that much, just that like glimmer of fear that you were talking about,
Benny, that like is so true when you love this heart.
It's like, I am telling you that I haven't sobbed like that so instantly out a song and I
don't know how long.
And so literally even hearing you talk about it and bringing up those lyrics and like
knowing the both of you, it's yeah.
Apparently it just like triggers.
And I just, it's I'm so in awe of it.
And so, yeah, that's where I love you.
It's shout out to Phineas also the legend of all.
Let's shout to Phineas.
So he knows how to do that.
He knows how to press those buttons.
Yeah, that's very sweet.
This is this is going to be fun.
And, you know, you don't often get to say that when people who ultimately through the very
nature of being good at what they do, find an audience and the audience creates a metric of
success.
And then it becomes really tough to walk that line.
It just does.
We've seen it over and over and over and over again.
And it's so rewarding.
I think I'm sort of echoing a little bit of what Gracie's saying, but not so much on a
personal level from her point of view that it's like, it's really amazing to get a sense that
you're finding the fun in this.
And I think that's the isn't that the trick, Selena?
If it's fun for you, who cares what anyone else thinks?
It's actually very true.
And there's nothing that makes me more proud than to stand by everything I've done and
love it deeply and really just pour my heart into it.
And that applies to everything in my life.
So I just I think this whole experience has been cathartic and beautiful and I got to do it
with my best friend.
So it was great.
We got a lot more music coming as well, which is going to be cool.
And I have to ask, hang on.
First of all, two questions on this, this thing on this introduction, which is fascinating to
me.
Hold tight.
Take voice message system.
However, if not, who is it?
It sounds like Horace.
It's it's him.
You know him.
You know, that guy is just a random it's just a I was like when when I I was like, oh, I'm
going to replace this. I think it says like collar or something.
I never even asked that.
And then I was like, oh, I'll replace it.
And then I never remembered to replace it.
And I'm like, oh, my God, people are going to like reverse it and think it's like, oh, I
know. Yeah, I promise you there's no meaning in that at all.
It's me being very lazy.
That's just the meaning.
It's the most beautiful, obvious owner story in modern music.
And you up by reversing a random name and that's a machine.
It's not even a name.
I think it just says like collar or like or like unknown.
I can't even remember what it says.
It's a bop is what it is.
It's really nice to see all three of you.
Thanks for touching down with us here at Apple Music.
You know how we feel about you guys.
Have a really good day and evening and morning wherever you are in the world.
See you soon.
Thank you.
Bye bye, guys.
