Why Foreign Brands Are FAILING In China NOW

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is this the end of foreign brands in
China can Starbucks and KFC fight their
way back into dominance in the Chinese
market we got to talk about it so please
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essentially I feel like I'm doing like a
business school case assignment right
here so anyways guys let's roll the clip
first quarter Revenue reached 6.28
billion yen meanwhile Starbucks has been
struggling in China the Seattle based
giants has more than 7,000 stores on the
mainland and opened more than 800
outlets in the first quarter of 2024
their China Revenue was
$735 Million us over that same quarter
$35 million us less than
luckin if you think price is the only
Advantage luckin has think Chinese
entrepreneurs are also creating their
own fast food chains like this one
this isn't simply a knockoff of KFC and
McDonald's is center around Chinese
elements but as with other domestic
brand in China these days price is
certainly a future so I mean that's
basically it guys uh particularly
Starbucks and we're going to be focusing
on Starbucks because that's what the
video is mostly about you know which is
globally the biggest coffee brand but
not doing so well in China anymore
because of China's domestic Brands and
also I'm going to you know give my own
reasons why I think this is happening
because you know maybe there's a lot
going on in the Chinese psyche and
whatever but anyways guys please hit
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like talking about this because like you
know I'm always curious about these
Chinese Brands now you know we're going
to get into the fact on whether you
think like oh the Chinese Brands copied
the American brands or took after or
their remakes or heavy inspiration I
mean listen uh there's definitely some
of that going on but it's not like the
West hasn't been inspired by the East
either but anyways uh I want to talk
about these seven reasons why chains
like Starbucks but maybe particularly
Starbucks is struggling in China you
know and this is I did I did a lot of
research and you know I put my little
NBA hat on I'm not an NBA student but I
went to business school anyways let's
get into it uh Point number one increase
competition from domestic Brands guys
the name luck and coffee I just saw
they're opening up now in Malaysia okay
so they're expanding across Asia but
they have over 20,000 stores across
China this is a cheap more efficient and
newer and domestically owned native
Chinese brand of coffee that is eating
up a lot of Starbucks share also another
one is kotti coffee which I actually had
there's actually a kotti coffee in San
Gabriel California so in the Chinese
zone I'm just going to go ahead and say
the Chinese zone is going to have some
of these Chinese Brands opening up
because people are familiar with it and
a lot of people from the 626 may be
familiar with it or more open to it
because they go back back and forth or
whatever um also also not to say this
but it's not just those two Brands mcafe
which is McDonald's cafe section which
is actually a lot bigger in Asia than it
is in America and also K Cafe which is
essentially KFC's M Cafe side and you're
going to notice and it's it's no
surprise but KFC is huge in China they
love fried chicken and so is Popeyes
anyways Point number two other brands
like luckan coffee and kti coffee can
offer lower prices so
Starbucks being this American owned and
operated American brand it's not even
cheap in America it's not the cheapest
coffee in America it goes to China and
of course it's considered a premium
product it you know the build outs are
are more expensive they have a Starbucks
Reserve in Shanghai I've been there I've
actually visited it and uh basically you
know their cost is just a lot higher and
so therefore their prices are higher and
a lot of people are like hey you know in
China they're like yeah well you know I
just want a coffee so you know luck in
coffee make a good coffee it's pretty
cheap like I don't have to go to
Starbucks and pay this premium
International multinational price you
know and I think that I'm going to get
more into it but I think Starbucks you
know they focus on maybe uh cut a more
artisanal type of coffee but I don't
think Chinese people really care about
it you know coffee is now becoming a
more regular drink in the cities of
China to the point where like people are
just like yo I'll kind of go for the
dunk Donuts of coffee like people still
buy a bunch of Dunkin Donuts you know in
America so uh also I think a lot of
people are not valuing Starbucks's third
place meaning it's like a place to chill
and meet in America I'm not going to lie
when I see Starbucks at the airport I I
get a I get a free water there or I grab
one of those cool like you know pink
drinks and whatever uh but if I want to
save the calories I just get water and
it's a very nice chain I appreciate
Starbucks in America but I'm saying in
in China
I just think they got other options
Point number three they are able to tap
into the latest trends and localize the
product even better than Starbucks is
because some of these other brands are
actually ran and operated by Chinese
subsidiaries or International
subsidiaries and not actually the
American company so Starbucks is owned
Starbucks in China is owned by itself
and at this point it's proving to be a
disadvantage because yum China operates
KF C cidic and the carile group which is
an international group so you know it's
it's probably a lot of Chinese people
working there they run McDonald's in
China RBA restaurants Brands Asia runs
Popeyes and Burger King in China so
these are like groups that are designed
to run International businesses and run
businesses in China so they're able to
tap in and kind of get a feel for what
the domestic Market wants where
Starbucks is more or less trying to pull
you to like the Starbucks stuff versus
go to you as a consumer you know what I
mean that's like a different way of
doing things Point number four I think
the foreign kind of uh cache and the
foreign spirit is wearing off in China
where um they don't consider it as much
of a badge of honor anymore to buy
Starbucks or buy these American brands
as they once used to now I'm going to
talk about it like you know six seven
years ago I went to Shanghai I went to
the uh Starbucks reserve and it was kind
of it was it was all the rage there was
a line to get in but uh at some point it
kind of wears off because you realize
like it's not it wasn't really made for
Chinese people like Starbucks again was
like Hey we're we're the brand we're
going to bring people to our taste and
we're going to make you like these
croissants and we're going to make you
like this type of coffee versus luck and
coffee Coty coffee they're just like
yeah like you know I'm a Chinese person
so I know what the Chinese like so I
give them like the sweet milky drinks
you know that's what they like and you
know we give them a bright aesthetic and
uh we just make people feel comfortable
we're not trying to force people to uh
uh consume a different culture
here and uh yeah I mean you can just
tell by these pictures like if you just
look aesthetically at luck and coffee
you know it's uh you could say it's
maybe not the most unique looking but
it's just very like feel-good it's
bright colored there's blue aesthetic
you look at Coty coffee it's very bright
bright clean bright sand wood like the
colors are orange glowing you know to
contrast with luck and coffee and then
you look at Starbucks in China and it's
and it does look like a cool Starbucks
but it's kind of got this like rustic um
industrial Vibe with like the bags of
coffee beans and Chinese people just
don't care to see the bags of coffee
beans like I know that there's this kind
of a hipster or artisanal vibe to it but
ultimately I think think when it comes
to Coffee Chinese people want sweet
milky coffee in a bright environment
similar to Boba shops yes I said it I
think these Chinese people if you can
look at these drinks sometimes at luck
and coffee in the picture it looks to be
more than like 60% milk and what is boba
boba is probably at least 60% milk so
all this like Starbucks Reserve like
look at this top ceiling with like this
glowing like lava top with the rocks and
it's like industrialized and it's very
like orange and and Tin Tin Vibes like
very like rust Rusty you know it's not
it's it's not what the it's just not
fitting the Chinese people now I get it
Chinese people do love a lot of luxury
foreign brands of course they still love
BMW they there there's nothing in China
that compares to LV Gucci Dior Chanel
Hermes blah blah blah Rolex it's true
there's not but on the more middle class
level of Brands you got leaning Anta
competing with Nike okay like these
Brands can actually leaning and an on
certain levels can actually compete with
Nike you know versus maybe there is not
a LV or Gucci or Dior coming out of
China anytime soon right but we're
talking about on the middle class level
this is coffee here so of course luckan
can compete with Starbucks it's not
crazy to think play the clip there is
definitely a rise in nationalism or
patriotism people are showing an more
obvious preference for domestic Brands I
think patriotism definitely plays a
crucial role in this
consumer Behavior change Point number
five Starbucks focused a lot on the big
cities instead of all cities and that's
why like Starbucks it didn't get its
brand out it was really trying to be in
like the tourist zones in the big cities
I remember like going to maybe like the
famous tourist streets like I I think I
was in chandu and it's like the famous
you know kind of touristy uh old street
that they have there and like there was
a Starbucks there but Starbucks is not
going to be in like the super out of
nowhere like middle class neighborhoods
of like second tier cities you know they
focused on the big tier cities meaning
they were kind of seen as this hyper
premium product and I think they always
assumed that there were always going to
be like this experience that Chinese
people would look to like oh my gosh I
can't wait to go to shing tand D so I
can go try the Starbucks I just think it
lost its air because at the end of the
day people were there just going to buy
coffee and coffee if it's a staple you
can drink a midlevel coffee like I don't
even drink the best coffee every day I
like coffee I drink coffee almost every
day but I don't need the best coffee
yeah I mean listen Chinese people Point
number six don't really care about the
true Coffee Culture and when I mean true
Coffee Culture I mean like the
traditional like espresso coffee culture
that I saw in like Italy and France like
where people want the small little ES
espresso cup and then they want to sit
there for like half an hour and ILY Illy
is like the brand and all that like
Chinese people don't really care about
that I don't even know if they drink
black coffee like to be honest well
that's not advertised I'm sure they have
cold brew and stuff like that so I would
say even Starbucks arguably doesn't
really embody that Italian kind of
espresso culture right and then so it's
like if you're not even offering that
then Chinese people just want their
comfort zone you know and uh yeah number
seven the Chinese economy slowed down
making people a little bit more price
sensitive um and yeah obviously like
that person said earlier there is some
patriotism that comes along with uh
consuming you know domestic Brands now
that the domestic brands are at the
level there is the time I'm going to be
honest there was a time maybe even 10
years ago that there was not a lot of
domestic Chinese brands that could
compete with these foreign Brands that's
why they made such crazy impacts but now
at least as far as coffee and drinks
which is a highly competitive field
they're competing anyways guys uh what
are some Asian brands that you'd like to
see in the USA like I said they have a
Coty coffee in St Gabriel California we
just went there in the 626 I wouldn't
even be surprised if somebody brought a
luckan coffee to America luckan is now
making its way throughout Asia it's
probably going to go into Malaysia
Indonesia I wouldn't be surprised if
it's in goes into Singapore and then
eventually comes to America but let's
get into the comments section uh
somebody said yeah byd which is a
Chinese car brand is already dominating
the EV market and there's nothing else
that Tesla can really do about it the
world will be multi a multi-polar
economy-wise and as for more and more
Asia brands are getting to high quality
especially Korean and Japanese and
they're going to be cheaper so basically
byd is a Chinese EV brand which is
dominating all markets like except the
Western markets but like in India Africa
these cars are being bought like crazy
so BU as far as electric vehicles sold
is way outpacing all theeran ameran
Brands put together it's not necessarily
the most valued in America we've talked
about on this channel someone said I
think it's only big Corporation Western
Brands and it's Universal I mean in
California we don't go to McDonald's as
much we go to In-N-Out we don't go to
KFC as much we'll go to jolli bees or
try Korean fried chicken and we only go
to Starbucks out of convenience other
than that people are going to Boba or
making coffee at home yeah I mean even
in America Starbucks is losing a little
bit of its air but I will say this guys
McDonald's KFC and Popeyes in China
they're actually still doing pretty well
there is a Chinese brand called tensen I
forgot the name uh I gota look it up but
there's a Chinese brand that advertises
how the burgers are made in China and
it's it is kind of playing off some
national pride um but I'm sure that the
chicken sandwiches are on par now are
the burgers on par I don't know but I'll
tell you this Asia does great chicken
sandwiches I think the chicken sandwich
game in Asia even just speaking on China
might be better than America but not the
burger game yeah and then someone said
nah Rich Chinese folks still like
Western luxury Brands yes luxury Brands
but for the middle class Brands like I
said especially beverages everyday
beverages I think it's getting very very
competitive so overall in conclusion uh
are there any geopolitical implications
and I the reason why I POS this in the
beginning is because I feel like some
people they look at it like hey oh my
gosh like these American brands are not
killing it in China anymore they're not
dominant anymore that must mean American
companies are not dominant anymore that
must mean the rest of the world is
catching up that must mean America is
not going to be dominant anymore and
there is some truth to it as the world
is a multi-polar economy uh meaning that
it's not just America that runs it even
power-wise it's going to be multi-polar
too you know like America is just not in
the captain seat of the world anymore it
still is I think but just not as
unanimously as much as it used to be and
I think that when it comes to Chinese
brands copying the West obviously yeah
Chinese have learned a lot from those
Brands I mean of course there's always
the uh accusations of Ip stealing which
definitely happened but like I think
that ultimately you know it's not that
different than when like Scorsese made
The Departed that was essent that was
based off of infernal Affairs and they
won a bunch of Oscars for that literally
he barely shouted them out barely
shouted out the Hong Kong movie industry
too or like when America remade the
office and the office from Britain right
just because it originally started
Britain and the office became like one
of the most iconic American TV shows of
all time like that and friends you know
what I mean so it's like people are
remaking each other stuff and no doubt
China has learned has taken the last 10
years to Chinese entrepreneurs have
learned over the past 10 years of of you
know taking after America I mean even
like Alibaba taking after Google
whatever you know what I mean that's
just the way it is and it wasn't wrong
it's just globalization ideas get spread
it's not that hard to copy things like
at the end of the day it's hard to make
successful Brands and it's hard for them
to uh be extremely profitable but it's
not hard to copy things anybody can copy
anything essentially so anyways guys let
me know in the comments down below are
there any other brands from China or
Asia that you guys uh want to try or
have heard of and what do you think
about the dominance of American brands
like Starbucks moving forward what do
they got to do to change maybe they got
to listen to the locals more I don't
know lower prices or maybe just
downsides I don't know what they're
going to do but anyways uh thank you so
much for watching and until next time we
out peace
