DUNE: PROPHECY Cast Plays Dune or Dune Not | IMDb Interviews

But would you allow a loved one to use true sense on you? Sacrifices must be made. So I have a silly little game I'd like to play. This is called Dune or Dune Not. I'll give you a scenario in the world of Dune. If you do it, you say Dune. If you wouldn't, say Dune Not. I love this. And this is answering as ourselves or our characters? Yes, yeah, as yourselves. So first up, would you ride a sandworm? Dune. That'd be fun. Good fun. Never done it. You got to try it. A ride's a ride too, right? Yeah, I mean, it looks like the best ride. Dune. Yeah. I was a bit disappointed to find that we didn't get to do that when I read the script, I have to say. Maybe in season two? Trouble is that our planet is very damp. So it would be more of a mudworm. And I don't think that would be so much fun. Would you ride a sandworm? Dune. Yeah. Why is that so easy to say yes to? Well, yeah, that's exactly what I was going to say. Like the absolute adrenaline from that sounds like. And to do it and succeed. Like I'd feel so like you couldn't bring my ego down after that. I'd probably be a completely different person. Yeah. The wind, you know, wind in your head. The wind in your eyes. Yeah. Dune or Dune Not, ride a sandworm. Dune. Yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah, that'd be so cool. If someone's like, do you want to ride a sandworm? I'm like, yes. Would you ride a sandworm? Oh, do not. Yeah. I'm not sure, it might be a bit messy, you know. All that sand, I didn't like the thought of it. All right, Dune or Dune Not, try spice. Dune. Oh, wait, that was a bit too hasty. Dune Not until you're older. No, but there's different ways to use spice. People have it in tea. You can have spice tea. I want one of those. Oh, right. Inhalers. Spice inhalers, yeah. Straight into the lungs. Are you going to try spice? Dune. Dune for the anti-aging. Yes. Just to try it, I mean. Yeah. Just a splash. Just a nice splash. It seems like the anti-aging is the quality that most people are saying first. I think it's the least controversial. Yeah, it's the least loaded answer. Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. Dune, for sure. Solves everything. Love that stuff. Is there a reason why? I mean, is there a certain power or certain aspect of it that you would just immediately say yes to? I think the way that they take it in the spice stand is like a drug. But I think we take, we have spiced tea once a day. Just refreshes and gives your brain a, you know, it's just like- It's a bit like what we have in England. We call PG tips. Sorry, that's a British joke. Sorry. But it's, yeah, no, definitely. You have a cup of that in the morning. But also, dune is power. It's energy. It's, you know, oil. It's whatever you like to call it. Clarity. Yes, as well. Oh, dune. Yeah. You look younger, you extend your longevity, you get some foresight into the future. I'm seeing a lot of benefits from spice. Beautiful blue eyes. Yeah, dune. Yeah, yeah. No drawbacks there, apparently. That's quite tempting. Yeah. Possibly. Let's dune that for the time being, maybe. Yeah. What's the reservation about spice? Yeah, all those kind of things. Yeah, there might be a downside, possibly. Yeah, but I don't know. The blue eyes seem nice. Yeah, I would take it for the blue eyes. I agree. They're pretty cool. How about try spice? Yeah, bloody eye. Dune. I guess dune. Yeah, dune. I mean, I guess. I mean, I'm into that. You seem a little hesitant about it, though, Jordan. I mean, I don't know. I don't know how, I don't know. I mean, I don't know how prescient I want to be, like when I do some spice. But yeah, go ahead. Yeah. Why not? Dune or do not, would you use the voice? Dune. Oh, yes. Yeah, dune. Yeah. Have you ever tried to get a teenager to tidy their bedroom? You will tidy your room. You will pick up your pants. You will put them in the drawer. Dune or do not, use the voice. Oh, it's hard. It's like a moral thing, but like absolutely dune. Dune. You know what, dune. I'd only use it for good, though. Not for self-advancement. Can you be certain of that? No. I mean, who can be certain until you get that power? Exactly. Yeah, but I would definitely do it at least once. Even if it's just like, Chloe, get me a drink. All right, would you use the voice? Oh, dune. Do not. Why not? I don't like to be loud. It's just the volume of it. It's not the control. Yeah, no, I like the control, but no, I want people to love me for who I am. Yeah, dune, I think. Yeah. Is there someone that you'd like to use the voice on or somewhere that you think you could benefit from using it? When fighting for a parking space, I think it would be super useful. Definitely. Totally. Drive away. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, absolutely. Don't give me a ticket. How about this? Dune or do not, would you use the voice? Dune. Yeah. I've got two kids at home. That'd be great. Get them to do as they're told. I mean, that's just the coolest ability. Dune or do not, use truth sense on a loved one. Do not, I think. Something's best left unsaid. What about would you use truth sense on a loved one? Do not. That's... Yeah, I don't think I'd like to hear if someone was lying to me. Yeah, because they're lying for a reason. Yeah. Just leave that there. Yeah. We're far too fragile for any of that. Yeah. Would you use truth sense on a loved one? Oh, that'd be a bit scary. Yeah, that do not for me too. Sometimes the truth is, as Travis said, can hurt you. Would you use truth sense on a loved one? Well, I think you just do anyway, don't you? I mean... When you're going through their phone. When you know somebody really well, you're like, really? Yeah. I just need to say, honey, I don't go through your phone. Dune. I feel like I'm constantly using my own version of truth sense on all people around me. So, yeah. Would you use truth sense on a loved one? Yeah. If you want to stay with them, don't. And that's some word of advice. Oh, but if you want to stay with the right person, Dune. There you go. Well, you see, I think, you know, if you test someone, the chances are they'll fail. And actually, you shouldn't have to like truth sense on them. They should be willing to give you that. If you have to do that, then your relationship's doomed. Thank you for laughing at that. Appreciate that. I'm here with the bad puns already. So, if you're topping my bad puns, I'm going to back up with that. Yeah. I guess it's just the threat of being able to truth sense someone may be enough to, you know, keep them on the right path, hopefully. I do it at least once. Like, I would. Do you know what I mean? I think it's on a partner. Oh, no, not me. Okay. Oh, you said on a loved one. On a loved one. Yeah. But also, like, them knowing that you can do that would, like, if I knew that my partner could truth sense. You'd tell the truth. I wouldn't. Yeah, you'd just tell the truth because you'd be like, well, what is that? What is the point? So, maybe it's just, maybe you won't even need to use it. But then you've also got the challenge of being like, can I trick it? Can I, like, try, like, cheat lie detectors? Yeah. But would you allow a loved one to use truth sense on you? No. I'm trying to protect them. I'm married, so I'm going to say dune. Yeah, whether you're using it or not. Yeah, yeah. You're using it. I'm telling the truth all the time. Would you allow a loved one then to use truth sense on you? Yeah, absolutely. I have nothing to hide. But when you've been with somebody a very long time, which we both have, it's like, you know. I was in a play with her husband when we were at university together. Wow. Yeah. When I was 19. Yeah. He was Titus Andronicus and I was Tamara the Great. So, are you ever going to allow a loved one to use truth sense on you? Do not. Yeah. Just too dangerous once you open that Pandora's box. Yeah. That's a wrap. Yeah. Some of those white lies may protect us. In its purest form, yeah. I don't think I'd lie to my loved ones. It's funny because, yeah. So, I would allow it used on me, but I wouldn't want to use it on them. What is that saying? What's that saying about you two? I don't know. I'd rather not know the truth. Just stay with me. Dune Prophecy. It resembles the Dune films, but it takes us to mostly new planets with these stunning practical sets. Once you step into this world of these sets, how did that deepen or evolve your understanding of who you were playing? The set that is the sort of heart of the Bene Gesserit is breathtaking. I think we all walked onto that set, and again, I got- Goosebumps. Yeah, and a sort of ignorant person's guide to sci-fi acting. You have to raise the bar up to a very high scale to occupy that space. Playing characters that want to rule the universe is a step up for actresses of our generation. We never thought we'd get to be those people, so it's a thrill to flex those muscles. And that set, the sisterhood set, the exterior of the sisterhood set has the history of the birth of the sisterhood is actually in the bones of the building in a way that you will discover as the series unfolds. It's just brilliantly conceived. Wow. Okay. All right. I'll be looking for that. That's interesting to hear you say, was it empowering then to be able to play these roles, to take on this character that otherwise we haven't really seen in other media? They built us like staircases to swoosh up and down our skirts, did this incredible noise as we moved. And so you did. You moved through the space and doors to exit through those incredible glass doors with beautiful filigree metal across them. I mean, yeah, it was magical. And the way the lighting was, it's like, I know if I stand here, I am going to look fabulous. And I remember saying one day to the director, he wanted me to stand somewhere else. I was like, no, I'm going to stand here. He's like, why do you want to stand here? I was like, because if I stand here, this shot will be in the trailer. And I was right. Do you know which shot it was exactly? I know exactly which shot it was. Me standing in front of a glass door with filigree metal behind me and the shots in the trailer. Incredible. Experience counts for something. Slaving away on Rushmore with Wes Anderson. I learned a thing or two about lighting. Yeah, yeah. Well, you have a very Max Fischer suit on right now, I will say. I do, well spotted. Do you know that is actually written into the script that Max is wearing a green velvet suit. Yes. It's there in writing in the script. Because I've read the script and I had a green velvet suit as well that I wore. I'm sad you're not wearing it now. How dare you not wear it. Pulled it off. Yeah, it went okay. Prophecy, it also explores how humankind would cope with thinking machines being abolished. Is there a technology that you would miss most from your life, or is there one that you would be happy to see go? I'd be happy to be rid of my smartphone. I feel like it's beginning to control me in a way that I, just because everything is there and I resent it so much. I think we will look back on these, particularly these last 10 years, you know, as my kids have been growing up as cowboy country. What were we doing? What were we thinking? Putting these things in the hands of people. You know, I as a 56 year old woman can't control my scrolling habits. So how a nine year old is supposed to tell good from evil when they speak to someone on the internet? Oh God, yeah. I think it's changing the nature of our species. You walk down the street and everybody's here. Yeah. And nobody's engaging with where they are. I'll be happy to say goodbye to the internal combustion engine as well. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's interesting because it's one of those things where it's like, okay, we'll be in chaos for a moment, but Dune tracks such a long period, you know, so many eons that you can see that maybe we're going to be okay. You know, it might take a little bit. There may be an initial chaos, but get rid of the phone and maybe there's a new reality. The birth of the sisterhood is partly to do with the death of, you know, they have defeated AI and now humanity is trying to find ways to advance the species so that the sisterhood have worked on these powers of discernment. And, you know, we have all these kind of superpowers, but they're all in your head. We can look at somebody and tell exactly whether they're telling the truth or not. We have these, we can dive down into our own biology inside our microcosms and find our DNA and through that contact our ancestors. You know, it's all kind of really pseudo nonsense, but it does have a sort of scientific base to it. And there are various different schools around the universe of Dune that are doing similar things, trying to advance understanding to a point where we don't need those, don't need AI, don't need machines. So that, you know, it's very, you know, it's a very interesting territory in terms of what is happening right now. Once you were on Wallach Nine and, you know, soaking in those amazing sets, how did that evolve your understanding of the character or your performance? Yeah, I think putting on the kind of costume and stepping into that big main space, the big library room was just sort of like, you kind of realise just how big and epic this whole world is. I completely agree. I mean, it was just, it was really quite surreal. It felt like we were stepping into another reality and that we didn't really have to do the extra work of, you know, that I guess a lot of people have to do on shows with a lot of green screen. It was mainly physical, you know, sets, which was so cool. And then, you know, to see after, like watch the episodes and see how they then expand on that with like VFX and CGI, it's just even cooler. So I think it's just, yeah, such a blessing. So you're mostly actually on physical sets. You're actually interacting with this. Yeah. It looked like you couldn't fake it because it is so tactile. Yes, exactly that. And so detailed. Like those sets were incredible. You could take a book off a shelf in the library and it would be full of the language. Which was just absolutely like the intricate detail was off the charts. OK, well, I guess I have to ask then, was there anything that you wanted to steal or maybe got away with? I really wanted to steal one of those pens. Oh, yeah. They're like really cool. We had to like learn how to hold them. Like, yeah, kind of. They were like really awesome. I wanted to steal, I had like a little whale tooth. Lila has the whale tooth. And I didn't get to steal that mainly because, probably because of future seasons, hopefully. That's what we're saying anyway. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You can't, we might need that for the next season. I love how Prophecy also explores how humankind would cope with thinking machines being abolished. What technology would you miss most in your own life? And which would you be happy to see go? I would miss Google Maps so much. That's so true. Just I cannot get anywhere. Other maps are available. Other maps are also available. I couldn't get anywhere without the use of maps. Yeah. Even in my own city, like Manchester, I would not be able to get, you know, find cool places. You just follow it, don't you? Yeah. Blindly as well. Places that you go all the time. I always just put on Google Maps. But also, yeah, I was going to say like search engines. I'm like, oh, why is that? Or who was the first person to play that? And you can just find out immediately. So yeah, the internet. But what would we want to see go away? I love that you've just added a new question. No, that was the question. Listen, Jane. I think, oh, I don't know. I find AI a bit scary. I don't know if that's controversial. Why does that feel controversial to say? No, it's not controversial. I think it's very, that's the thing. Like power, responsibility. It's a lot of power, AI. And so it's like, as long as it's used for good. Yeah. Similar to like the whole like Dune mantra of like thinking machines. I guess it's the same thing. Yeah. This show should make you a little bit scared of thinking machines. We get glimpses of the technology wars and the robot wars and it's terrifying. Yeah. We don't want anything to do with that if that's where AI is going. I wanted to ask about the secret hand signal like sign language that the Sisterhood has. Have you been taught any of those hand motions yet? I think we're too, yeah, we're too new. We're too acolyte. We've got to get to a much higher. That's like the war talk, war speak. Right. Is that what they call it? I'm not too sure. Where they can like communicate the truth sayers. Right. Yeah. And the Reverend Mothers, they can communicate like, it's so cool when I watched it. It's really cool. Just like one flicker of a hand can mean so much. We haven't, we haven't got to that level yet. We're not that advanced yet. Maybe one day, maybe season two. Yeah. Cause I wonder if there's a full language scripted out in that. It seems like, you know, everything's so deeply explored in this that those hand signals mean something that somebody can actually. There's no doubt that there's not, there's, there's definitely thought that's gone into these. Everything is very purposeful. Yeah, definitely. If I lose control of Arrakis, the great houses would feed me to the worms. Working with this character, you're understanding this character, but once you're there on those sets, did it deepen or evolve your understanding of your character? No, it's pretty impressive. My, I mean, we just, my job is to like a little child play, dress up and, and act like a different person. So it's a, it certainly helps, certainly helps my, it blows my mind. Every time you walk on a set in this show and it's just so extravagant and the detail, you know, obviously it's a big epic. Everybody says the show is the size of it and how grand it is, but it's all the little details that the camera picks up, which are very impressive from rings on people's hands, bracelets, the earrings, and just every little detail is thought out. It's a huge undertaking to set up a world like this. Yeah, Jordan, you're living with all these worlds on the page. And then once they realize, I mean, I'm hearing that the books even had the language printed in them. If you'd pull one of those off the shelf in the, you know, the planet of the sisterhood. Yeah. And what in the language in terms of what they look like and how they- Actually that there's words written in those books, according to, you know, some of your actors in the sisterhood that, you know, just it's so immersive and it just, it's, it takes you to this place. Don't believe anything those witches say, mate. But what was it like to see it realized, you know, to go from the page to actually standing there in the world? I mean, it's incredible. I mean, we, you know, Lancaville is a very good example that like in the books, you know, I mean, it's, it's written as this kind of like, you know, frozen tundra, barren landscape, you know, we're, you know, when we were out there trying to find that in Budapest, you know what I mean? We were, you know, we had some ideas of how to do it. And then we got lucky that the film gods were with us. And it was just snowing when we had to film those sequences. And it just, the beauty of the, of those locales are just incredible. And they add so much to the show. I also love that Dune Prophecy. It's exploring how humankind would cope with thinking machines being abolished. Is there a technology you would miss most from your own life or one you would be happy to see go? I were laughing before in an interview of, imagine if everybody just lost their phone or their phones were all just cut off. The world would go to crap. I don't know what I would do without my phone at this point. I mean, it's just, that's how we're on the drip so much. Yeah. You know what I mean? I mean, it's, we were almost there to thinking machines ruling us. Yeah. Hell, fridge. I'd miss the fridge. Fridge. The fridge? Yeah. Fridge is not really a thinking machine though. Oh, it thinks pretty well for me. Right. You've got one of those smart fridges that talks back to you and tells you what's in there. Thank you, buddy. Hey man, can you make us? No, you got it. You didn't think it out, did you? That's a good point. Well, you know, whether he's lying or telling the truth, you know, the series and the Dune franchise, it investigates, you know, the truth of prophecy. Is our path laid out before us? Or do we shape our truth to what we believe? I mean, can we really ever know which is true? That's you, buddy. I don't think so. I mean, I think that, you know, today, I think what's relevant about the story that is today is, you know, information kind of dictates how we kind of live our lives and what we believe. I think the sisterhood is starting to become, to realize how useful and powerful it is to control information, to wield it, to kind of use it, to kind of bring out your, to kind of, you know, realize your agenda. You know, prophecy is an interesting thing because, you know, it's meant to tell you what happens, but sometimes you can make it happen. All these things are very fascinating. And very resonant with today's, you know. Extremely resonant. Yeah, with what is truth? Who decides the truth? And yeah, and then you throw your character, Travis Desmond in there, and it just blows up all their best laid plans as is he his own prophecy? One that we didn't see coming. Are our prophecies true or not because of this character? Yeah, so I think it's very powerful to be able to tell the truth, especially in this day and age, and like you were talking, especially when it relates to politics and media stuff. It's like, what do you believe? And sometimes the truth can be the most upsetting and detrimental power that you have, you know. And I think Desmond comes in and he's telling the truth and it scares everybody, you know. And the truth only scares people that are lying, you know. So whenever somebody gets scared of the truth, it's a good giveaway for people being up to something. Your Majesty, the troubles are far greater than just Arrakis. You know, the character, you're reading them on the page, but once you step into this world of these sets, how did that deepen or evolve your understanding of who you were playing? Being in the palace and being like, this is where they live and this is their everyday life because they do live a very secluded life. It's just, it was amazing walking through the palace for the first time and seeing the big throne room and Princess Inez's bedroom, which is huge. Yeah. I think it makes the whole experience so much more immersive. And when you go into the set, it's like a lot of the time it could be a blue screen or something like that, but then this specific set, everything's built. Like the throne room is there, it's like a three-story high building, basically. Yeah, everything is so practical and it just makes your job of, I guess, acting so much easier. Yeah, because you don't have to pretend, you just have to be there and see what you actually see in real life. You're actually in the palace. Even like the level of detail on the props, like in the spice den, which was my favorite set, like being able to walk through, you can pick up the spice things and they work. You know, the buttons come on, they light up and there's things that you can really use. And they went to such lengths to make everything as real and as practical as possible. So that just gives you that extra bit of ease and confidence in what you're doing on set. Yeah. Well, I guess in that case, if you can actually use all these things, was there something that you wanted to possibly take home with you? So many things. There was lots. I wanted to take my sword home, but that wasn't allowed. I wanted to take my balisette, which was also not allowed. Yeah, well, I mean, there was so much beautiful art in the palace that I was like, I could have that at home, but then it probably wouldn't fit because, I mean, the bedchamber of Princess Inez's bedroom is bigger than my real life apartment. So, yeah. Just have a big picture of Mark Strong. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Just a photo of Mark. I want the picture of Mark. Yeah. So, you know, Doom Prophecy, it also explores how humankind would cope with thinking machines being abolished. What technology would you miss most from your own life? And is there one that you'd be happy to see go? Well, I would miss my phone. I mean, like many people, sadly, I think I'm a little bit addicted to my iPhone. Yeah, I feel like I'd miss my phone, but then I'd be happy that phones were gone at the same time. Yeah, like the stress of the alarm and also when people text or call, yeah. I could do without my phone, but I couldn't do without streaming services, I think. You know, how we get our content now, and especially for sports as well, like live sports, I couldn't watch that. Yeah, that would be, yeah. That would crush me. Yeah, absolutely. You know, and another part that the series is investigating and just digging into is this idea of truth and prophecy. You know, is our path laid out before us or do we shape truth to what we believe? I mean, can we ever know which is true? Have you really dug into that idea as the show explores it? I think, yeah, I think that's so interesting because I think to every person there, you know, they have their truths, you know, and I think that varies from person to person. And I think, yeah, that's one of the things that I love so much about the scripts is how these characters and everything they go through, it's so human, it's so grounded, and their way of seeing life is real to them, you know, and everyone sees it differently, you know, their stakes are very personal and they believe in what they believe in so much, but they don't believe in the same thing, you know, so, yeah. Tell yourself enough lies that become truth eventually, you know, and I think there's a lot of that with some of the characters in the show. Yeah, and in real life, I mean. Yes, that's true. Yeah, that conversation comes right out of real life. Why this show, I think, will resonate with so many people. I run a school for young women. We're not a threat to anyone. You spent so much time with these characters on the page, but then once you're standing in the world of Seleucus Secundus or Wallach 9, what was that like for you as a writer and did it deepen or evolve your understanding of the characters? Oh, that's such a great question. I mean, absolutely, like, to be living in your imagination, and yes, you're imagining things based on the books you've read and the movies you've seen, and just going to different ideas in your own head is one thing, but to then see and to almost hand that blueprint over to people who love doing as much as you do, and that was one of the, it's really one of the privileges and joys of working on something that is so influential is that people have relationships to it, and so many of our creators, like our production designer, Tom Meyer, who designed a lot of those sets, had a love for Dune and a knowledge of Dune and a desire to, like, dig into it and kind of, like, meet the bar and do their greatest work, you know? And so I think there's something about this kind of a universe that really calls forth people's desire to, I don't know, dig deep, and then we really tried, and standing on those sets was humbling and amazing and just gorgeous. Also to see the work that our visual effects team did building out, making it more elegant, more spectacle, you know, while at the same time trying to tell a story that's intimate, that's grounded through our characters and through our cast. I mean, there was many, many things about this production that, you know, terrifying and exhilarating is the only thing I can describe it, and we're very excited. And I think some of that excitement, you know, comes from the ways the series digs into conversations that we're having today in the real world, you know? Yeah. I love that Prophecy explores how humankind would cope with thinking machines being abolished. Yeah. What technology would you miss most out of your own life and which would you be happy to see go? Well, I have a love-hate relationship to my phone, so, I mean, both things might be true. I agree. Like, I think that it's such a compelling moment we're living in now because I do feel like AI has a momentum that will transform us, and it's up to us to kind of try and navigate how that transformation takes place. And I think, like any new technology, it's going to be good. It's going to be bad. It's going to be revolutionary. It's going to be dangerous. It's going to be all the things. And so I think the more we can sort of ask the right questions of it or have a sense of what's at stake with it, you know, the better chance we stand of shaping it in a way that is productive for us. And I think Dune, by imagining a world where, like you said, we're on the other side of an epic sort of war where humanity had to reclaim itself from all the power and control it gave over to thinking machines who, in turn, came up with their own thinking machine agenda that really made humans just raw material to be worked with, I think that that's an amazing cautionary tale to be sort of... But at the same time, we're watching humans rebuild and think about what it means to be human, which is also very pertinent, and a question we should be asking, not just the dangers of technology, but what is special about us that we want to hold on to? And so I do think Dune has a lot to say right now. And then, you know, there's the conversation about truth and prophecy. You know, what is... Is our path laid out before us or do we shape truth to what we believe? You know, can we ever know which one of those is true? That's right. Well, it's exactly the gray area of the show. And I mean, it's why it's... And it's something I really hope that as we tell, I think, hopefully a gripping and fun story that you look forward to watching, that it also rewards anyone who feels like thinking about the power of story, the danger of story, what are our narratives, what do we choose to believe and who shaped that truth? What's the hidden agenda? You know, you could go on and on, but just fun to think about and certainly compelling to think about. Yeah, I guess I didn't even think it extends to, yeah, the power of story because once you tell a story, it becomes someone's truth. You know, somebody touching this and this is their truth, you know? And then that where, what are the butterfly effect replications of that? When you go down 10,000 years, you know, through these centuries. Yeah, and I think, you know, I think Dune is always questioning sort of the, what do we do with our charismatic leaders? Like, what is the savior story? You know, is that story really gonna take us where we want to go? Or what are the dangers of that story or the burdens of that story? Also very interesting. Now is the time to secure the throne and protect the Imperium. Being on those sets, being, you know, kind of immersed in that world, did you have a greater connection to playing this role? I think the sets are just so extraordinary. When you walk into that space, it's so theatrical, you know? So yeah, absolutely. As an actor, it really informs the scenes and, you know, the sort of varying agendas and power play that's at work, you know, in, you know, some of the kind of big set pieces that we have in those sets. It's, I guess, you know, it's so totally different from the world of The Sisterhood. And I think that's what's exciting about this series is that, you know, you really see these kind of very different worlds within, you know, the same universe, as it were. But I mean, I guess as an actor, your job is to make it relatable, you know? So I kind of took a lot of my sort of references from, you know, maybe sort of medieval history in terms of, you know, we're still in a court and we're still looking at how a royal family is behaving. So in my mind, imaginatively, rather than it being a planet, it's a kingdom.