Join evolutionary astrologer Dabney Lawless in this important and pressing presentation on the astrology of gender equality and the upcoming 2024 US election, as well as the history of Women's rights in the United States. Bio- 'Dabney Lawless is an evolutionary astrologer who trained with well-known author and astrologer Steven Forrest over a twenty-year period, achieving his "Master Level" certification. Dabney currently hosts a YouTube podcast, Lawless Astrology, featuring interviews with prominent astrologers. In the 2000's, she was the resident astrologer for Parents Magazine, Pregnancy & Newborn Magazine, and Working Mother. Her work has been featured on the Today Show and she has been published in Yogi Times, Pop Sugar, Bustle, People.com and on Astrology.com where she had a regular column. Dabney lives in Northern California with her husband, teenage son, three cats and five chickens. She is a member of the Organization of Professional Astrologers (OPA) and has completed the Center for Relationships and Astrology certification. www.lawlessastrology.com To learn more about Dabney's wonderful work, visit: YouTube: / @lawlessastrology Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dabneyl/?hl=en To view our current class offerings, visit: store.keplercollege.org/current-course-offerings/ #astrology#evolutionaryastrology#election2024#womensrights#DabneyLawless Chapters: 00:00 Introduction 01:07 Why Women Will Decide The 2024 US Election 03:26 US Sibley Chart And The 2024 US Election 05:27 Gender Equality & Chiron In Aries US History 13:00 1776 'Women Can't Vote' Chart 17:26 Women In US History Continued 19:07 Pluto In Aquarius: Democracy, Revolution, & Equality 25:42 US Sibley Chart & Inauguration Day Chart 2025 30:35 The Role Of Uranus In The Advancement Of Equality 35:33 Vote Early, Vote Early, Vote Early! 39:19 Where To Find Dabney! 40:51 Conclusion Recorded October 2024 Opinion Disclaimer: All views expressed by the host and the guest(s) are solely theirs and may not reflect the views of Kepler College. Please keep your comments respectful. Thank you.
Hello everybody and welcome to the latest episode of Let's Talk Astrology. Today I'm delighted to
be joined by evolutionary astrologer Daphne Lawless, who has a master's level certification
with the one and only Stephen Forrest, and I will say as well a wonderful YouTube channel,
which I'll link both to the description and the comment boxes. Absolutely wonderful,
go check that out. So Daphne, thank you so much for joining us today and how are you doing?
Hi Callum, thanks for having me on, especially in such short notice, I appreciate it.
So yeah, today I want to talk to everyone about why it's very important for voting, but specifically
for women to vote, and so I'm going to look a little bit at the history and the astrology
of the United States and what I think is going to happen in this election. So what do you think?
Absolutely wonderful, and I've scanned this presentation, it's absolutely brilliant with
the historical context as well, so let's dive in and let's talk about this astrology.
Okay, so this presentation really just looks at a few things here, why I believe women will decide
this election, and so I did some research about Chiron and Aries. So if you know anything about
Chiron, it is the wounded healer, we all have heard that before, but one of the things that
you may not know is that the United States and the countries have charts too, and so the United
States is in its Chiron return, which means it is back in the place where it was when the United
States chart was created, so when the United States sort of declared itself, and so when you
have a Chiron return, oftentimes it's a time of accepting and healing old wounds, where you can
make progress, and some of the initial wounds of this country, which we're going to look at
with a timeline, have to do with women's rights, the rights of people of color, it has to do with
the fact that all men were created equal, but not necessarily all women, and so, and it wasn't even
all men, because it was really just landed gentry, so in the beginning, really, you know, only white
men that had land could vote, so, you know, we have to look at, we have made so many changes
through amendments to the Constitution since its first incarnation, but at the same time,
you know, there's still a lot of work to be done when it comes to equality and giving women
their due, and so I think that is one of our key wounds in this country, I think that's part of the
Chiron and Aries wound for this country, and so that's what I'm going to be looking at, is that
Chiron return, and really demonstrating how there has been huge jumps in equality for women, because
women begin to find their own agency, and they get angry and fight back, so I'm also going to talk a
little bit about the Pluto and Aquarius that's coming up, and what we can expect from that,
especially for women, and then also, I was alerted to a really cool fact matter that Uranus making
hard angles to the sun also has coincided, the U.S., excuse me, the U.S. moon has coincided
with changes for women, so that's what we're going to be looking at, so I'm just setting the stage
here, so this is, if you look on the inside chart, we have the United States Sibley chart,
and the outer one is the U.S. election, so what you can see here is when we are all voting, and
hopefully you're voting early, but if not, it's right on Chiron's return on election day, okay,
so this again goes back to that, you know, where can we make progress, where can we heal, where can
we accept that maybe we were hurt in the past, but it doesn't have to be how it is moving forward,
how can we help other people, so women are going to be a big factor in this election.
Absolutely, I think with this, you bring up such a great topic with this, with the Chiron return,
because the Chiron return happens, even in your own charts, it's once every around 50 years,
so if we go back 50 years in the United States, the last time was roughly 1973,
but what was happening in 1973, we had Roe versus Wade, we had the Supreme Court saying that not
only married couples, but single people can have access to contraception, and what happened as we
have this Chiron return, we will go back to 2023, we've had this overturning, so this cyclical
event coming back round, and as you said, Daphne, this woundedness, and it's really coming back to
prominence, so this is a great topic. Yeah, and I really do think that women are going to be the
ones that decide this election, because of that energizing, the energizing effect of the Chiron
return, so I'm currently in my Chiron return, and I feel that, where it's like you have to make
changes, you see things differently, you reflect on the past, and you kind of take inventory during
a Chiron return, so that's kind of a personal thing, but there's also this sort of collective
energy that we all feel during a country's Chiron return. So yeah, let's talk about the history of
some of Americans' Chiron returns, or when Chiron was in Aries. So in 1872, Victoria Woodhull is the
very first woman to run for President of the United States in the U.S. under the Equal Rights Party.
She wasn't even eligible to vote, but she ran, so that kind of shows that sort of, like there was
something like, I'm going to do this, right? Then in 1919, and this is a huge one, and a lot of people don't
know this, but it is a fact, and it's really interesting. Woodrow Wilson, so fast forward,
you know, to 1919, the 50 years, Woodrow Wilson had a stroke while he was President in office,
and his wife Edith Wilson effectively became the first female President because she ran the country
while he had a stroke. So he, you know, this was not a well-known fact at the time. The newspapers
were kind of sworn to secrecy. It was a very different time, but everybody in the cabinet,
everybody knew that Edith was making the decisions and just kind of saying they were from
Woodrow Wilson. So we really had our first unelected female President during a chyron
return. Then in 1920, we had two suffragettes each get one vote at the Democratic National
Convention for President. So it's the first time that women are kind of acknowledged that they
could potentially be President. But then in 1920, we have the suffragettes have a big victory with
the 19th Amendment that finally passes that says white women can have the vote. So it is a stain on
our country that Black women and women of color did not get the vote until the 1960s. But this
was a big, big motivation and a big movement for women to actually be able to participate
in the government again. What I love in the historical context that you've brought here,
and if we look back to that Sibley chart, we're looking at Mars ruled
chyron. We're in areas where Mars ruled. Now look at this historical context. You've got women
fighting, you've got the suffragette movement. I think, who was the lady at the, sorry, back on
the other slide, Victoria Woodhull fighting. She was like, you know what, I'm going to take action,
Mars, and go ahead and run anyway. And all of these women fighting for their rights. So that's
just a wonderful historical context here. That's exactly it. None of this was handed to any of
these women. This was something they definitely had to fight for. Now, the Edith Wilton is kind
of a little bit of a different, you know, situation, but it really, you know, effectively
proved that a woman could do the job and during a pretty intense time in our history. So then,
and you know, another little factoid about that, right, we were just coming out of a pandemic
in 1918. So, you know, there's a lot of echoes of the past that we are all experiencing, and we were
all living through chironinaries during that pandemic as well. And, you know, we've definitely
seen women rising up during this time as a backlash to what's been happening with what
we're going to talk about in a few minutes, which is the Pluto and Capricorn. But 1922,
the suffragette, one suffragette became the first senator appointed. So we had our first
female senator. She wasn't elected, but she was appointed. And then in 1923, the Equal Rights
Amendment was introduced for the very first time for a vote. So a lot of people watching this
channel may have fought for the ERA themselves a few decades ago, or even a few years ago,
because it's not on this timeline. But chironinaries, most recently, the very last
state needed to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment happened in 2019, which was Virginia. So we have
enough states now, it's just a matter of willpower to adopt it into the Constitution. And that's all
chironinaries. Okay. Then we have Shirley Chisholm in 1969, who I'm sure a lot of people watching
know who she is. What a powerful warrior energy woman this was. She became the first female to
run as a major party candidate in a primary. So she didn't win the primary, but she became
incredibly influential for women and black women all over the country. 1972, Title IX passes.
There's kind of a flurry in the early 70s of rights for women with chironinaries. In 1972,
when Title IX passes, if you don't know what that means, it means that women should have an equal
right to education. So despite whatever your gender is, there has to be equality in education,
because up until that time, it was pretty skewed toward men. Like, oh, men are going to college,
so we're going to give them more resources and more energy was put on them. And women would go
off to secretarial school or go find your husband. That was kind of the emphasis. And so Title IX
passed that said no more of that. Women can be leaders too. Women deserve education.
I'm actually quite shocked that it took, this is my naivety in this, that it took
to 1972 for that to happen. That's quite shocking to me. I didn't know this.
Do you know, Callum, that women couldn't even get a credit card in their own name until the
mid-70s? So there was a lot of pretty backward stuff in this country that has kept women down.
1972 was the very first CEO of a Fortune 500 company that was a woman. And then, as you
mentioned, in 1973, Roe v. Wade became law of the land, which was a very huge victory
for women everywhere. That was, you know, that was very important for the women's movement.
Then in the next go round, we've got 2020, Kamala Harris becomes the first woman and person of color
to be vice president of the United States. And this is something we do not talk much about. It
happened. And then, you know, no one really talked about Kamala Harris. There was a lot of other
things going on. The media had their own agenda. And really all you heard was just very little
about her. And if you did, it tended to be negative. And so people had this negative view of
her. But it wasn't really based on anything because they weren't putting her out front and
center. And in some ways, I think that that probably worked to her advantage now, which
makes me kind of believe that all of this really is cosmically divine. Because here in 2022,
Roe is overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court. So that is once again galvanizing women across this
country to fight back and try to get our rights back. So saying that we are no longer, you know,
we are not going back, right? Like the Houston rally with Kamala Harris was all about a right
to bodily autonomy. That is Chiron and Aries. I have agency. I have autonomy. I have a right to
exist. I have a right to be in this world. So pretty cool stuff. Okay. So I do have a caveat
here. So I'm going to talk a little bit about Pluto going into Aquarius and what that harkens
and why I think it's a good sign. But I also want to say we've been in Pluto and Capricorn.
And there's been a lot of discussion about Pluto and Capricorn dismantling, you know,
shining a light on the corruption and the hierarchies. Pluto, when Pluto comes to a point
in a chart, it says, okay, it is time to expose everything that has gone wrong and where we can
tear it down so we can build it up better. We can expose what is toxic. And so Pluto and Capricorn
has been about the government and it has been about, you know, male power and hierarchies. And
so we've seen during this time, you know, it's been about financial institutions. And so, you
know, we've all been living that. I'm sure most of the people watching your show understand Pluto
and Capricorn by now. But there's also been this undercurrent of misogyny that has really taken
root in a new way. And you see that with all of these kind of younger bro podcasts where they're
becoming radicalized against women. And there's sort of this fear that women and minorities are
gaining too much power, taking too much away from the white male who has historically been in
charge. You know, you had Tucker Carlson go out there the other day and say that
daddy's coming home and the women of this country have been bad girls and are going
to get a vigorous spanking. Serving speeches, I think I've ever seen. On top of that, you have
pretty much the crazy rally at Madison Square Gardens and the rhetoric is just absolutely
unbelievable. I think that speaks to my naivety again. I always thought in my naive mind that
progress was linear, that okay, from 1970s you get these rights and then we go through.
But it's becoming cyclical, like we're coming back for this wounded return, this Chiron return,
as you're talking about, and having to swing this pendulum back and forth instead of just pushing
forward. So that really is so disturbing. The childless cat ladies, we've talked about this
before on your show, and just the horrendous misogyny and them expecting women to be subservient
to this men and this toxic power dynamic, which you're speaking to now, is just awful.
Right. And so when this country was founded in 1776, and that's the inner wheel here,
we're looking at the United States sibling chart, Pluto was in Capricorn. So we've been going
through a Pluto return, meaning Pluto is back to where it was when we first started this whole
experiment of democracy. And I have this quote here, in 1776, Abigail Adams writes to her
husband, John Adams, urging him to remember the ladies in the new codes of law. Anybody that
knows the history of this country knows that women also participated very vigorously in the
founding of this country, and they had a very revered role. Now, they did have more segregated
roles that are traditional, I should say, traditional roles in the family of raising
children, but they had a voice. They did influence what went in the constitution. They had
their husband's ear. There was never this kind of like, well, women do not get the right to vote.
Until a year after in 1777, there was an actual law that went into effect that said women can't
vote. So that was kind of the beginning of that Chiron wound. And so we sort of see that, you
know, Chiron was still in Aries, but Pluto, when they passed this, Pluto was at zero Aquarius.
And that's where Pluto is going to be in a couple weeks, at zero Aquarius. So that is why it's so
important for us all to vote right now, because we are kind of going through these pains again,
that are reminiscent of the founding of our country, where votes were taken away from women.
But one of the things that you can see, I'm going to go back if it's okay,
what you can see through this history is there's kind of a leveling up. First, we have a woman
kind of saying, I'm going to run for president, and then they're like, no. And then like, actually,
women are in government. And then actually, women get the right to vote. And then they say, no, now
not only do we want to vote, we want equal rights. And then we have a woman who runs for president.
And then we have a woman who actually becomes a leader of a major company. And then we have
women's bodily autonomy, like, oh, I actually get to control this a little bit more than you. And
maybe I know more than you. And then we have a woman in the White House right now. So there is
kind of this leveling up, like there's always progress. So Callum, I do think that there is
progress. And I think that we should keep the faith because it's all been going towards something.
And if you see the two biggest, what's the word, endorsements for Kamala Harris are Taylor Swift
and Beyonce, right? These are two super powerful women. So I think that women are finding their
voice. But we have to use it. And we have to acknowledge all the women that fought and worked
so hard to get us to this point. Because I do believe there is a movement. There is even a
movement on some of these podcasts with the extreme right wing where they do say that it was a mistake
to give women the right to vote. And they'd like to take that right back. And JD Vance has said that
he doesn't believe that women without children should have as much of a vote as women with
children. So let's talk about Pluto and Aquarius. And Callum, I want you to jump in here and talk
about this because I know that you know so much about this as well. And you've had a lot of people
on Kepler talking about this particular subject. But Pluto and Aquarius, so we are moving away from
the hierarchy. We're at the 29th degree of Pluto and Capricorn, meaning it is at the anoretic
degree. It's at that final crisis point where everything's coming out, where it's all crumbling
and falling apart. And that's where you get the Madison Square Garden rally. That's where you get
just some of this insane stuff that it's hard to believe what we're seeing. But we're
moving toward Pluto and Aquarius. And Pluto and Aquarius was the American Revolution. It was the
French Revolution. So this is when people say there's wealth inequality. Elon Musk, sit
down. We're going to take a little power back. You know, you can't just have it all. It also
coincides with the Age of Enlightenment in the past, the Industrial Revolution, the dismantling
of social hierarchies, and resistance to the established trusted powers. You see Washington
Post and the LA Times. I think the Washington Post had 200,000 people unsubscribe because they
know they're kind of giving in to the pressure of people that want to silence
this movement that we have. And the re-evaluation of labor. And then, of course, technological
advancement. So these are all things that I think play very well to women having more control. Queen
came into control during Pluto and Aquarius. So historically, we have seen that women do rise to
power during this time. We have lived in a patriarchy forever. So there's not a ton of
examples of women, especially the founding of this country was right around Pluto and Aquarius. So I
kind of move on to a chart. You make a wonderful point about hierarchy because right now,
as you're saying, it's pretty much a patriarchal oligarchy because we are now living in a time
where so few have so much and the rest of us, the 99%, are way behind. And who's controlling
most of that wealth? It's men. It's the Elon Musk. It's the Jeff Bezos of this world. Yes,
there are women CEOs who are in high positions and have high authority. But really, with the
majority of the wealth is that patriarchal oligarchy that we're in now. And you make a
really good point about, if we look back through history, Pluto ingressing into Aquarius and all
the revolutions that we've seen, whether it's the American Revolution, the French Revolution.
And as you're saying, with a hierarchy, Pluto and Capricorn is that destruction, that revising,
that Pluto getting underneath the surface and pulling everything down, the destruction
part of it. But Pluto in Capricorn has been the undermining of this hierarchical construction.
But as we get Pluto into Aquarius, we're really talking about we the people. And that includes
equality for men and women and bringing that balance, hopefully, back together in this air
science. So I love how you bring in the historical context as well. And I love that, you know, the
we are not going back. That is very Pluto in Aquarius. Freedom, Beyonce's song Freedom,
Pluto in Aquarius. A lot of the campaign themes revolve around Pluto in Aquarius themes. And so
it's very different than Make America Great Again, which is very Pluto in Capricorn. So again, this,
the election day will still have Pluto in Capricorn, but it's at that last degree where
things are kind of falling away. But it's so important for people to realize that I think
women are going to have an outside sized vote this time because they're fighting back. And I think it
has a lot to do with having their rights stripped away. It's such a wonderful point. So we're
talking before the recording about the early data that's coming out now. Now, I voted here in North
Carolina as an important swing state. And you were mentioning even today, the disparity between men
and women voting and that's been across the board. I think women, not number one, women have a
higher role in the voting electorate. There's more women who vote number one, but number two,
they're voting at a higher clip. Even than that, I think we're talking about nine or 10 points,
even more across the board, particularly in these swing states as well. So I totally agree with you.
I think the women coming out to vote, we've obviously got Chiron return in a Mars rule sign.
People are angry, women are angry, and they're coming out to shout and to show their voice.
Beyonce, freedom. And this is what I think is going to be the catalyst. And as you're saying,
is what's going to come ahead with Pluto and Aquarius as well, moving us forward into the
future. We're not going back. So I love how you're bringing this all together.
Thank you. And so it's, yeah, it's just this real Aries warrior energy of women stepping
forth. And it's, it's women and men, right? But it's about the wound around feeling like you
belong, like feeling like you have rights, a right to exist. And so there are a lot of
male allies out there. So this is in no way male bashing. It's more just looking at the polls,
looking at who's been voting, and then looking at the astrology and sort of saying like, okay,
there has been this historical time frame where men have been in control and made the decisions
on behalf of women. And most recently, they made the decisions on behalf of women again,
when they overturned Roe v. Wade after saying they wouldn't. And that is something that upsets
a lot of women. And so in 2022, you saw a disproportionate number of women coming out
to vote, I believe it was in Kansas, they wanted to make abortion illegal, and when it was on the
ticket, and women came out and surprised everyone and said, not so much not so fast.
So I do think that it is going to be a really big factor in this election. And astrologically,
it just mirrors it. So this is the inauguration day chart. And so again, you sort of see like,
that the return is still happening. But Pluto has moved off of the United States Capricorn
enough, like, you know, you usually kind of say when it's like three or four or four degrees out,
like, okay, it's kind of like waiting. So you know, if you're still within three degrees,
you're still feeling it. But by inauguration day, Pluto squarely in Capricorn, or excuse me,
Aquarius, and it is going to be this whole other energy, we're going to be fast forwarding
into a world where there is a focus on revolutionizing things that no longer are working
for us. And, you know, redoing the, the places in the Constitution, that still need updating,
we need to update things that we need to upgrade things that is also a very Pluto and Aquarius
thing is like looking into the future, where do we need to bring the past into the future. And
I think the Equal Rights Amendment, I believe it will finally become adopted in the Constitution,
because there are no barriers to it. Now, we just need to get the people in Congress,
who can say, yes, we want to have that equal rights for women. So anything on the inauguration
day chart you wanted to call out Callum, or I'll move on. I did. And I love you, how you're using
a quadrant house system as well, because I tend to blend house systems, I think you can get
information from multiple different house systems. So I call myself a fusion astrologer. So in this
chart, we have a Placidus house system, a quadrant house system. And I think it both works in both
a Placidus system and a whole sign. So here, we've got the Chiron return in the fourth house.
Now, I'm not, I'm no expert in mundane astrology, but fourth house, we can be talking about the
workers of the land. Now, this Chiron return, what's been happening in recently, look at all
the rise of the unions coming back around, the unions have been decimated for the last couple
of decades. You've got the people in Boeing on strike, the auto workers. So you've got the workers
of the land going against and that woundedness of not getting the fair share of what they think
they deserve. On top of that, we've got Wall Street or these private equity firms buying up
homes, literally fourth house, the home, the land of all these single family properties and taking
over. Again, we come back to that oligarchy, which I think that Pluto will come back around and knock
off the shelf when hopefully Kamala gets in and we can start putting Congress to work.
But on top of that, we can also, I think, see this Chiron return in the fifth house. Now, the fifth
house in mundane astrology, we can look to birth rate in 2023 is historically low birth rate. We
can also look at in terms of sexuality. Now, a lot of people think sexuality or sex is in the eight.
I tend to disagree with that. We can talk about sex in the fifth, but we're talking about,
you know, equality of the sexes. We're talking about sexual orientation, whether that's trans
rights or all of those kinds of issues. And if we get even further, we know that Mars is the ruler
of this energy. Mars is the ruler, both of the fourth in the Placidus and the whole sign of the
fifth. Now, Mars in a mundane astrology, it's in the seventh house. We can look at foreign affairs,
all those different topics. But what other topic it also brings up is the divorce and marriage rates
of a nation. Now, if you think about the discrepancy between the men and the women voting
right now and the higher divorce rates in the last eight years, particularly because of the
conflict with politics that's sandwiched between the genders, I think that's going to come into
prominence again, as I think when Kamala wins, I think we're going to see another higher divorce
rate because women are just saying, you know what, again, not to disparage anyone politically,
but they might be looking at their Trumper husband or boyfriend going, I've had enough.
So for me, this is just my future prediction. I think there'll be, we'll see another record
divorce rate as we go into next year. Sorry, I was waffling on there, but that's my
interpretation of these charts. No, I love it. I love it. And also Jupiter
conjuncting Uranus, this is not part of my thesis, but I also think that that's really interesting.
Like you said about, of the United States chart, it's kind of empowering. Jupiter expands things.
And with Uranus and Gemini in the sixth house, labor, and, you know, just new, fresh ideas
around labor, which was built into the founding of this country. And so, you know, Jupiter sort
of magnifying that and giving it confidence. And Jupiter's about to, you know, it's right on the
U.S. descendant too, which also speaks a lot to, you know, relationships and the dynamic there.
So women's empowerment, it's coming. I want you to note that the United States moon is in Aquarius
at 27 degrees natally. Okay. So the role of Uranus in the advancement of equality. So this was
actually called to my attention, and then I dug into it a little deeper by an astrologer called
Dan Waits from the UK. And he also has a YouTube channel, which I've put here, and he looks almost
exclusively at mundane astrology. And I had actually talked to him because I wanted to present
some of this Aquarius stuff. And I saw a video that he did, and I was like, oh, this is so cool.
So anyway, this, anytime Uranus has made a hard aspect to the United States Sibley moon,
we have had big advancements for women. So one of the things when I was doing this presentation,
when I was going back with this timeline, I was thinking, honestly, and this was before I found
his presentation, I was thinking, well, what were the big advancements for women in the United
States? And really the birth control pill ushered in a whole different dynamic and freed women up
to work up until that time. Women, there was laws about women, you know, not being able to work,
childcare wasn't available, like all these things. It was a whole different world.
Then the other thing was I was thinking about the Rosie the Riveter time where women were,
you know, in the workforce for the very first time en masse and they got to kind of feel their
own power when the men were away at war. And then they were kind of like, OK, now we're done with
you. Go back in the home. Right. So so anyway, when Uranus makes a hard aspect to the moon of
the United States, we've seen these these things happen. We've seen women's advancement. And so
the moon in a country's chart, it represents the people, but it also represents women and
their status in the country. And so in the first 1919, and that was the Edith Wilson,
that was a hard moon. Uranus, a moon, I believe that was a square or a conjunction, maybe.
I'm sorry. I've got the chart here somewhere. But but in 1941 was the bombing of Pearl Harbor.
And you can see that Uranus was at 27 degrees of Taurus, making a square to our U.S. moon.
So, you know, right on cue, this shirt in a time of women having more power. And that would make
sense because Uranus is changes things, right? It shakes up the dynamic. So here we have something,
you know, that's challenging, but it's like forcing a change for the status of women in
the country. Then birth control use by 1962, it got FDA approval in 1961 when Uranus was in.
Let's see, where was Uranus? It was actually a little bit before the direct opposition,
the very first FDA approval. But this opposition, this by this time, millions of women were using
birth control pill by 1962. So you can kind of see like 1961, 1962, there was the opposition.
And that's when it got FDA approved. And that's when it really started to begin to change the
role of women in society and U.S. society. So any anything you want me to go back on?
Absolutely amazing. Go back to the Uranus moon chart. That's so fascinating. So with all of
these connections to the moon, and of course, mundane astrology, we can also look at the moon
as the people as well. And we've got the female archetype in there. That's absolutely curious. So
thinking about coming up in the future, we've got Uranus, where we are about 23 degrees. Can we go
back to that chart? Yeah, let's go back to inauguration day. Does that sound good? Or
you want to go? Oh, wow. Yeah. So we're 23 retrograde. So we're going to be coming back,
we're going to be hitting that moon again, as Uranus moves forward. Now, I don't know if the
if it'll go past that 27, and then come back again. But I wonder how many times that Uranus
is going to hit that moon in the retrograde phase and go indirect. But wow, that's absolutely
curious. With the connections to the moon, then the representative of the people,
the female archetype, this is great information. I've never heard of that before. And it's absolutely
amazing. Yeah, it's really, it's really juicy information. And, and sometimes we forget to look
at the major events in history and what was going on and where the correlations that we can make.
And so that's why I love mundane astrology. It's why I love historical astrology. So yeah,
so if I'm closing up, what I'm going to say is not only vote, vote, vote, but I should have wrote
vote early, vote early, vote early. Because the US election day chart, as we have all been talking
about is a little bit of chaos. And we have this system where we are given a little bit of a bonus
to be able to vote early. And there are still believe it or not undecided voters out there.
And if those people decide last minute that they want to vote, and they see a huge line, they may
not have the willpower to stick it out. So you know, free up that line for election day, know
that there's a lot of crazy water stuff going on, there could be a hurricane on election day,
which can disenfranchise some people or make it difficult if you're especially like in a Southern
state, or a state that borders the ocean, like, get out there and vote early, just make sure it's done
and taken care of because all of these women who have come before us are counting on us.
Absolutely wonderful. And I second all of those sentiments too, because not only
when you go out early voting, what it does for campaigns as well is it takes you off their
what you call it roster. So they know they don't have to spend even more campaign finances to go
after the ones who haven't either been out yet. So that's a great way to help any of the campaigns.
So I fully agree with you. But Daphne, absolutely wonderful information. And I love again, all the
historical context. And again, in my naivety, I just I was my mind is blown that it was even not
more than like 50 years ago, this was still some of the issues. And so wow, wow.
And so in that way, I think it is hard as it is, because we feel like we should be further ahead.
But if we recognize how much progress we've made in 50 years, and then the 50 years before that,
and then the 50 years before that there is progress. And so that is why I believe women
will decide this vote. And I do believe that they're going to come out for Kamala Harris.
And I think they just sort of overstepped their Pluto and Capricorn boundaries when they overturned
Roe. And it goes to your great point, going back to obviously the overturning of Roe versus Wade,
the 2022 midterms, you saw the ballot initiatives in deep red places like Kansas and other states
where it was just a blowout. And I was shocked by the turnout as well. But I think you're totally
right. We're seeing it now in the early data. And in the astrology, we're seeing it all that
you're bringing in with the woundedness of the Chiron return, a lot of pissed off women
swearing on this channel to go out and have their voices heard. The Pluto
ingress finally saying goodbye to Capricorn after this tumultuous 16 years or whatever it's been.
Now we'll not say we'll never see this again in our lifetimes. And we're going to see this for
the next 20 years. And hopefully that breakdown, as you mentioned before, of the hierarchical
structures, the distribution of wealth and finances, and people say, oh, it's socialism,
communism, things like that. We're not talking about that at all. We're just talking about
not 10 people in the world having 80% of the resources and those kind of issues.
Yeah. And this is a topic for another day. But I do believe when Neptune finally gets out of Pisces,
people will start to see a little bit more clearer. And hopefully we can put some of this
misinformation in the past and people kind of rub the sand out of their eyes and be like,
oh, my God, what was I thinking? That's at least my hope.
I am totally with you. Hopefully we can get out of this conspiracy theory era that we've been in,
which is pretty much indicative of Neptune in immutable water because it's just, it's
unbelievable. So Daphne, tell us about yourself as well. Have you got any projects coming up?
Can you talk about your websites and how people can find you and all of those details?
Yeah, yeah. So Lawless Astrology, like Lucy Lawless. And if you go to YouTube,
you can follow me there. I interview amazing astrologers like I interviewed Callum.
And so I have a wide, you know, various topics that we cover, but I also do
my own forecast there as well. So if you want, it's not necessarily a weekly forecast,
it's more kind of like major transits and things that are coming up. And then right now I'm
definitely doing the political astrology because I think it's so important that we get out the vote
and like I said, honor the women that came before us. So that's where most of my energy is going
these days. So come on over and join us on YouTube. Absolutely. And I will reiterate an
absolutely wonderful channel, not just because I was on it, but you can watch the content.
It's absolutely brilliant. And I see a lot of YouTube channels and Daphne is already up there
with the best and it's going to grow and grow. So please I'll put the link in the description,
comment boxes, go check out the channel, subscribe and then go and enjoy that content as well.
Thank you so much. Yeah. So definitely if you want more forecasts about Kamala winning,
I did one with Callum and I also did one with Celeste Brooks, who I know is a Kepler College
favorite. So thank you for having me on Callum. I'm really appreciative.
Absolutely brilliant presentation. And thank you for sharing all of the information. I'm sure
everyone will be absolutely loving this episode. So thank you so much. And we'll have you on again,
absolutely, for a different topic. Great. Thanks again. Take care, everyone.
Bye-bye, everyone. Cheers.