Stock Market Trading Created a Financial Disaster

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question comes from Ryan in Colorado oh
boy Jade take a deep breath on this I
need you to slow your pulse down as I
read
this I have a
$350,000 HELOC loan on our house which
is worth 700,000 the first mortgage
balance is $400,000 I also have 40,000
in credit card debt and two vehicles
that we owe nearly
yeah 100,000 on are you are you up to
date on this right now how's your blood
pressure you doing it's okay I also have
a $30,000 loan against my
401k I earn $175,000 a year my wife is a
stay-at-home mom these debts are
primarily the result of my attempts at
Stock Market trading where I chased
losses creating this financial disaster
this cycle of greed and poor decisions
has not only affected my family but also
my mental health I'm overwhelmed with
guilt and feel like I have failed as a
husband and a father
I'm in desperate need of advice on how
to manage and overcome this financial
crisis large Aster here for Jade as she
takes this
on this is an email you can't go back
and forth with this guy but go ahead
take it away I mean no wonder he's
feeling overwhelmed and no wonder he's
feeling like he failed and no wonder his
you know mental health is feeling
affected this is a big big big big big
mess he doesn't tell us um over what
period of time this happened all of this
and I I'd be interested to know because
the truth can when I look at this I see
a person with a gambling problem Oh
there's no question he a gambling
problem and it was just in the form of
stocks uhh trading I'm going to take a
guess that it was a short amount of time
cuz this feels desperate to to rack up
the 350 HELOC uhhuh uh-huh uh-huh and
then the loan against the 401K it feels
like he was like I got to earn this back
fast TR yeah the credit cards I
guarantee the credit cards are all for
this the helck is all for this the 401K
loan um and now the cars that's kind of
a separate lifestyle issue um let's talk
about the the the mental side of this
first like I said I think this is a guy
with a gambling problem I if I'm you I'm
getting into Gamblers Anonymous I'm
getting into some support groups I'm
getting on with better help and I'm
going to go into counseling a for me and
then I'm going to do a separate set of
counseling with my my spouse right
because this is taking a toll on your
entire family um and what a woman to to
stand by you at this point um although
she doesn't need to be standing by she
needs to be working yeah I mean we he's
got a good income but you know this is
back to the baby steps we're back to the
baby steps so that was the the mental
side let's talk about the money side
which is Ken is exactly right both of
you guys need to be working and at this
point you know I'm assuming probably
there's a stay-at-home mom situation
here and this is is all handson deck
there's certain times where that's just
required and I'm sure the wife is like
heck no I didn't do this you know and
there's probably part of her that's like
I don't I had no part in this I don't
want to help clean clean this up I don't
want to sacrifice and that could be her
choice to make but you know if they want
to come out right side up on this
they're going to have to start working
I'm clearing out these cars $100,000
worth of cars you guys are driving
beaters like less than $10,000 dollar
cars to get out of this um you know I
was just doing some math that I want
America to catch up on if you're new to
the show and a lot of you are Jade and
her husband Sam paid off half a million
dollars I just did the quick numbers
yeah if we take out the actual uh First
Mortgage yeah we're still at 520,000
he's racked up here it's a l so you've
actually done this I've done this you
know what was your combined income do
you mind telling us Sam yeah when we
started it was 30,000 when we started
right the next year it jump it went up
steadily with us working like crazy yeah
so it was like 30,000 year one 50,000
year 2 you know 80,000 year three and we
were moving moving up um what was the
highest cuz I'm what I'm doing is I'm
comparing it to where he is on a single
income of 175 this is very doable is the
point and I'm looking at a person who
knows that it's doable this is very
doable um there might be a situation
where they've got to get out of this
house right um and probably so what I
would do for more reasons than one not
just a financial reason but you guys
need a fresh start like you need a new
start at life here and so for that
reason I mean you got $50,000 of equity
here that's your wiggle room for you to
pay the Realtors and get clear of this
and get into uh get in an apartment and
I'd live in a box to get rid of that
helck of 350 I think it was and Ken
Coleman cuz a lot of people you know
right now I don't know when they bought
this house I don't know what the
interest rate is and there's a lot of uh
talk about well you know I rarely would
tell somebody to sell their house in
this market especially if they had a two
2 and a half% interest rate or 3% but in
this case this is something that you
burn down and begin again like in my
mind there's nothing to hang on to here
every time he walks in that house he's
going to feel the the weight of his
mistakes you know what I mean I agree
and so there's a piece of that that is
like just start fresh you've had way too
many conversations in the kitchen you've
had way too many arguments with your
wife in that bathroom like you need to
start fresh so I think that um that's
probably what I would do to get some of
this out of the way and then once they
clear the cars out now they're looking
at $70,000 of debt he's making 175,000
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