Scottie Pippen told Michael Jordan ‘The Last Dance’ isn’t an accurate portrayal | FYF Sports Debates

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I wanted to talk about this topic the last dance when the last dance came out The timing of it was just kind of odd and I Really wanted to speak on this particular Issue because it just goes to show how players can control narratives And when the last dance came out, I thought at least from my perspective that it did a really good job of going behind the scenes helping us get an Understanding of what the Chicago Bulls were going through as they made that championship run or all of those championship runs and The most important player Michael Jordan was the main topic now. I would have liked to see this Get portrayed from a perspective that wasn't so controlled by Michael Jordan as we all know he co-produced this so he had a lot of control with regards to the creativity and the content that Either went into the making of this documentary so he controlled everything what at what was what was included what wasn't included and After the release of this we've seen a flood of players who played with and or against Michael Jordan come out and Say that the last dance is not an accurate portrayal of the Chicago Bulls And what they actually went through to get to the six championships and we'll go to Scottie Pippen and the reason why I want to talk about this is because You know one of the greatest players of the 90s who played alongside of Michael Jordan Scottie Pippen recently came out This week and said that he went as far as even going to Michael Jordan and telling him He didn't think that the last dance was very accurate and I'm gonna give you a few quotes from Scottie Pippen I'm gonna give you a few quotes that he specifically stated Scottie Pippen in an interview with the Guardian He stated I don't think it was accurate In terms of really defining what was accomplished in one of the greatest eras of basketball But also by two of the greatest players and one could even put that aside and say the greatest team of all time Pippen said and again, he's right in 1996. I consider that team the greatest team of all time He went on to say I Didn't think those things stood out in the documentary I thought it was more about Michael trying to uplift himself to be glorified The series was co-produced by Jordan's jump 23 company I think it also backfired to some degree in that people got a chance to see what kind of personality Michael had and again Pippen added that he voiced his criticisms to His former Chicago Bulls teammate who he said Jordan accepted his opinion and he basically said it that he told him He wasn't pleased with it. Jordan accepted it and he said hey, you're right And that was pretty much it and that's what that comes directly from Scottie Pippen You know in general Pippen just kind of acknowledged, you know that he doesn't tend to reflect on the past Which is one of the reasons why he didn't go about helping promote the documentary And with regards to that aspect of the documentary He says I didn't get behind the documentary and try to promote it talk about any incident that might have happened in the documentary I didn't feel I needed to bring back things that happened 20 years ago So, you know and when we when we talk about players who? When we talk about players who were who voiced their concerns? I mean, obviously you guys, you know, if you're if you're into sports You've heard the displeasures from Craig Hodges about how he was kind of in the Bulls were kind of portrayed When Michael Jordan played with Craig Hodges, he's a former teammate of we've heard players like Isaiah Thomas You know, we've heard we've heard a lot of former players that played with Michael Jordan Lonzo morning Charles Oakley come out and in a sense kind of speak against the last dance and its portrayal primarily because It does something that we talk about a lot. You know when we go live we dive deep into some of these topics and It basically At least as far as from the players perspective when you're looking at this I think they feel that it diminishes them while uplifting Jordan and we talked about that in our live chats We talked about how fans will diminish the accomplishments of Scottie Pippen while uplifting Mike And I think it was Scottie Pippen alluded to that to some degree because they talked a lot about when Pippen was injured and the Bulls couldn't overcome the Pistons or the time when Jordan retired and when Pippen refused to come into the game because Phil Jackson ran to play for Tony Kukoc I think when regards to Scottie Pippen, there were a number of things in the documentary that stood out that kind of De-emphasize his impact on that team, but at the same time elevated Jordan And Pippen has a right to be upset. He's a Hall of Famer. He's all-time great He was one of the top five players of the 90s And I think they could have done a little bit more to portray him in a better light You know what one of the most One of the people that that were more vehemently against the last dance and how it was portrayed Was one of Michael George's teammates Horace Grant now Horace Grant has a more unique perspective because he won three championships with Jordan Obviously Jordan retired, but when Jordan came back Horace Grant was then a part of the Orlando Magic It was a part of that Orlando Magic team That was one of the few teams in the 90s that were able to eliminate a Michael Jordan lead team from the playoffs So his perspective comes from a very very different angle So what I also wanted to do was I wanted to play that full interview with Horace Grant I wanted to play that full interview with Horace Grant So everybody because I know there are a lot of snippets of his conversation You'll find a snippet here or a snippet there and these snippets and what I don't like about those snippets is They they are taken out of context. So what I have is the full interview with Horace Grant Speaking on his thoughts of the last dance what led up to it his involvement in some of these things that Jordan accused him of and it just You know his overall Opinion on how accurate the last dance was And again this you got to understand this last dance the timing of it was very peculiar because it came out As LeBron James was celebrating another championship win. So I mean You know, we we you know, we we have to You know, we really have to look at it with a side eye You know We have to look at it with a side eye and I don't want to say it came out when LeBron James won another championship Because it didn't come out at that point time it actually had came out before then LeBron James released another documentary I mean Michael Jordan released another documentary when LeBron James actually won the championship but this the timing of the last dance was just very peculiar because It looked as if it was aimed towards making sure that we don't forget how great Michael Jordan was Amidst amidst the time where everybody's eyes are on LeBron James as he's going in the year 2017 it doesn't look like he's dropped off or waned at all and he's primed to maybe play another three four or five years Being at the top of the NBA, but we're gonna go ahead and get to this interview with Horace Grant I just wanted to play the whole interview interview for you guys so you guys can get can really get a better understanding of how accurate the last dance actually was and should we Look at this documentary as one of the greatest documentaries of all time as some have pegged it to be Or is this a major move by Michael Jordan to control the narrative to keep his name relevant? you know when we talk about guys like Bill Russell and Will Chamberlain who were booted off Mount Rushmore or booted off that number one spot as the gold Because we we kind of just forgot about their greatness. Is this one? Is this a narrative controlling move by Michael Jordan to make sure he stays in the minds of all sports fans to make sure he stays atop in That goat conversation, but we're gonna get to that We're gonna get to that interview and then we're gonna chime back in chime back in after the interview Make sure as this interview plays and during this live premiere that you're commenting down below I really want your guys's thoughts and opinions on this because whenever we drop a podcast video on something like this We always follow it up and talk about it in our live stream I really want to hear what you guys have to say about it Make sure you put your thoughts questions and comments in the live stream and we'll and you know The live panel and myself we're do our best to try to get to those questions when we go live about this topic But up now we have an interview between Horace Grant And he's talking on Chicago talk radio about the last dance The ten episodes have aired and I had a chance to talk to you and harp and Bill Cartwright and Craig Hodges It's so many others that we've talked to do you look back on it? And we did you enjoy it? Did you feel like? Mmm, it was okay. How would you answer that? I would say, you know Entertaining but you know, we know who was there As teammates that but 90% of it was I don't know if I could say it on air but BS, right? in terms of the The the realness of it You know as I stated the other day That It was it wasn't real because a lot of things that he said to some of his teammates that his teammates went back at it, but all of that was kind of edited out of The documentary if you want to call it a documentary. Yeah, it was funny Ron Harper said to you and I hey, man He called me one of those names and I went right back at him and I know it's on tape and they never showed it He only picked on three guys that he felt he could dominate. Is that a fair way to look at it? well, absolutely, I mean He felt that he could dominate me but that was sadly mistaken Because you know, whenever he went at me I went at him right back, you know though but in terms of will Purdue Steve Kerr and the young man Scott Burrell. I mean that was heartbreaking, you know to see a guy Leader To go at those guys like that I mean that I mean I understand in terms of practicing, you know, you get you know You know, you have a push and shove there here and there but outright punching and things of that nature and calling them The B's and H's, you know That wasn't called for so when you go back to draft night 1987 and the story goes and I was scouting in the league then that Jerry Krause is in love with Joe Wolf Doug Collins is in love with Horace Grant and most of Jerry's scouts if not all Wanted Horace Grant and take us to that moment because the Bulls are on the clock You don't know where they're going and you're sitting there going am I going to Chicago or are they taking Joe Wolf? I mean it was one of the most nervous but most exciting nights of my life, you know My agent at the time was like, you know, you know, I think Chicago might Draft you I'm like, okay cool Saying that You know, I heard later in my career that It came down to the last minute of the Bulls being on the clock because Jerry Krause was so in love with Joe Wolf, you know, you know Joe was a very very good college player coming out of North Carolina, you know a lot of history there and Doug Collins Johnny Bach and everybody in that room said look We want Horace Grant, but of course Jerry Krause had other ideas. So Mr. Rhines or Jerry Rhinestore Went Karl Krause outside This is the story was told to me that he said look everybody in that room want Horace Grant If you make the decision with Joe Wolf, you're gonna have to live with it And I think that he was telling him I'm not gonna put words into mister Into Jerry Rhines mouth, but I'm pretty sure he was saying you do this deal. It doesn't work out Then you know, I think you're Your buddy's gonna be your buddy's gonna be alive and I say to this day Jerry Krause was the GM, but Jerry Rhinestore drafted me that night so along with along with Doug Collins and Johnny Bach and the rest of the people in that room. So when did you know? You're there. It's you it's Scotty. You're both skinny now. They hire Al Vermeule That was like Jerry's second hire Krause and I saw you at the multiplex at Deerfield Working out and getting bigger and you and Scotty all of a sudden are getting stronger. When did you know? We can win championships. We've this team is ready to take the next step well, I think After Detroit kept beating our heads in every year, even though we got stronger stronger Physically we weren't there mentally as a team I Think after that seventh game. We took them to seven games and you know, I think John Paxson was hurt that That seven game and of course People had the migraines. I think after that game, even though we lost this series We felt that we were going to be more mature the following year To get over that hump after we beat Detroit and we won our first one, man You know, I guess you can say the rest is history. Yeah, no question. So I've got to ask you I asked you this yesterday. I want to give you this forum to answer it. Michael says. Oh, yeah Horace was the leak He's the one that went to Sam Smith that gave him all that stuff for the Jordan rules. The floor is yours How do you respond to that? Yeah, I stated to everybody that is a downright outright Completely lie-lie-lie and As I stated if MJ had a grudge with me, let's say like man Let's talk about it or we can settle it another way But yet and still he goes out and put this Lie out that I was the source behind Sam and I have always been great man. We still great man but the sanctity of that locker room I Would never put anything personal out there the mere fact that Sam Smith was a Investigated reporter that he had to have two sources to to To write a book I guess Why would MJ just point me out? Okay, right. That's I mean, it's only a grudge man I'm telling it was only a grudge and I think he proved that during this so-called Documentary when if you don't say something if you say something about him, he's gonna cut you off He's gonna try to destroy your character, I mean, you know Charles Barkley they've been friends for over 20 30 years He said something about Michael's Management with the Charlotte Bobcats or short harness And then they haven't spoken since then and my fact my point is that He called he said I was a snitch But yet it's still after 30 or 35 years. He brings up His rookie year going into One of his teammates room. It's one with teammates room. It's in coke and weed and women My point is why why the hell did he want to bring that up? What what they got to do with anything? I mean if you want to call somebody snitch That's a damn snitch right there So and we're talking with the great Horace Grant here on ESPN 1000 on Kappa company the there's also a story It was in USA Today I mean, it's been everywhere where it said you have Horace didn't play Well, Michael would tell the flight attendant not to give him his dinner Again I give you the floor Come on. I mean, I I mean anybody knows me as a rookie that If anybody I mean comes up and try to snatch my food away I'm gonna do my best to beat the ass And believe me back then I could have took MJ in a heartbeat. Yes. Yes, it's true that he told the flight attendant Well, don't give him anything cuz he played like crap And I went right back at it I Said some some some choice words that I won't repeat on here, but I said some choice words and stood up If you want it, you come and get it. And of course, you know, he didn't move He was just barking but that was that was the story But anybody knows me where I come from and what I stand for Come on man, ain't nobody there's nobody in this earth Will ever come and try to take food off my plate and not get their rear end beaten You were very very close to Johnny Bach and Johnny before he passed He and I used to go to lunch and he would tell me You ask Horace Grant about what it was like being part of what we called the Dobermans and using military terms X-ray and yoke for defense. What do you remember about that commitment to defense by that team? Cap man, it was one of the most exciting defensive team I ever played on in terms of Us being athletic and trusting each other out there as teammates I Knew that MJ or pimp and they gambled all the time in terms of going for steals and things of that nature and They know they knew if they're Their guy got past them I would be there to get their backs and they knew that and I'm pretty sure that was one of the reason why they were so so great on the defensive end and I knew if I had their backs and And something happened that my man or their man got past me. I knew I had Bill Cartwright Bill Cartwright back there to knock somebody down who came into that lane. So it was all a great team Defensive moments What was the last time you spoke to Michael? And if you saw him, would you have a conversation with him or not? I'm past that Guys, I thought MJ we text About I want to share about three years ago three about three years ago. We were talking about golf and You know The crazy thing cap is that for one of my one of my charities He sent me a Pair of shoes, you know, I don't understand it if he had some some difference with me He could have text me could have called me the whole nine yard But if I had if I see him today You know, we will hopefully pay our respects to each other because we went through You know three championships together, but if not, you know, believe me, I'm not gonna lose in the sleepover Do you think when Scotty left? Do you think he would have stayed after 98 if the Bulls wanted him to if they had decided to keep that thing together? Listen, there's no way that pit would have stayed there another year Not because he didn't love the Bulls but because of the contract I think if MJ had a deferred some of that money Maybe a pit would have stayed there But you know pimp had the back injury the foot injury things of that nature. He wanted to secure his if I meant to Future and I'm pretty sure I'm not a nine point nine nine nine nine nine percent That pit would have Gone other places. Did you feel Scotty was portrayed? Unfairly in the documentary. I have never seen quote-unquote a number two guy as Decorated as Scotty Pippen portrayed so badly in terms of The migraine in terms of The 1.6 or 7 second Selfish I have never seen this In all of my life in the respect of Pupils out there. I think game six Could barely walk Getting knocked down on his back Trying trying to do whatever he he could to help that team And my point is Why was that one point six or seven seconds in the documentary? so-called documentary About pimp. I mean MJ wasn't even on the team, right? Why was that in there? I mean that we handled that that year Really? Well as a team Pimp know that he he was wrong for doing it. But yeah, just do We went after the game bill Stood up said we have to take bill Cartwright and then we handled it. It was over. It was over we go on To take the Knicks to seven games So, I mean it was over why bring that up? That's that's my question to everybody out there who's listening It's a it's a very valid question bill Cartwright said to you and I yesterday When we were doing that thing for bet online and bill said yeah our leader left and walked out on us to go play Baseball did that did some guys resent it because it certainly sounded like bill did and bills as classy a guys there is Well, I didn't I mean I didn't pay attention to it to be honest It was his decision to go play baseball Go play some baseball. I mean, I I mean I didn't give it that it opened the doors up for Everybody who remained on that team to step forward to show the world and show ourselves and the fans in Chicago what we were made of in terms of Not just being the Jordan airs and Scottie Pippen Led us that year He was in the MVP voting I mean he had just a terrific season and it was my first and only I think BJ all-star first and only NBA all-star Team that year we won 55 games that year Without the great number 23 Hey as I let you go you you said and I laughed you said it's a so-called documentary. Why do you say that? When when when when that So-called documentary is about one person basically and he has the The last word on what's going to be put out there What's going to be put out there? It's not a documentary It's his narrative of what? Happened in the last quote-unquote dance. That's not a documentary Because the whole bunch of things was was cut out Edited out. So that that's why I call it so-called documentary never have it right there For his grant and a very in-depth take on His thoughts about Michael Jordan in the last dance His thoughts on the accuracy of it his his thoughts on the depiction on how scored Scottie Pippen was portrayed. I Think I think that just exposes a lot And you know when you have a sports channel like like FYF sports where people come in and debate a lot of horse grant sentiments Come out from fans in in these debates a lot of the things that they say to boost Michael Jordan were Representative of how the last dance was portrayed the last group the last dance Was a documentary crafted Crafted in a way to portray Michael Jordan To be way up here while everyone else who would normally be slightly below him They're way down here And everything that they did was diminished I think you know when I look at that Chicago's Chicago Bulls team on both runs You know, I can name very very integral pieces of all of those teams You know when we talk about the Scott Williams's and the Stacey King's and the John Paxson's You know with those these are the guys that get little to no credit that were you know, never Really brought up in the documentary whatsoever and You know, we we heard a lot of things again We just we basically heard a lot of the things that elevated Michael Jordan even going as far as to talk about a story with regards to how Michael Jordan went and had to go get Dennis Rodman After he went on his party binge in Vegas, you know These I think these are stories craftily inserted to help elevate Jordan to some degree with regards to his you know How great he was of a player on and off the court, which again I don't want to take nothing away from Jordan I have my own reasons for why I think he's labeled as the GOAT. I Just don't think we have to go about Disparaging or trying to diminish other players that he played with or against in an effort To boost Michael Jordan himself. So what you guys let me know what you think about this video Let me know what you think about the last dance I mean, I mean the last dance was released months to go and we still have News reports coming out on it. So obviously the last dance did carry some weight and it meant a lot to these players especially to any player Not named Michael Jordan. So again, I want you guys to let me know what you think about this How do you feel about Scottie Pippen? I mean, we know Scottie Pippen has been in the news as of late but all of this story surrounding him And his his wife Larsa Pippen I mean his name is not getting tossed around in any positive light right now and And I think even that particular issue his his home his family issue I think that's getting carried over and brought into this basketball conversation as well because then you have a lot of people saying oh That's the type of player. He was doesn't surprise me that this is going on in this personal life so again It just opens the door for people to just throw more and more shots at a guy like Scottie Pippen when he honestly is in a situation that a Lot of NBA players have been in they just didn't have the limelight that comes with being a Scottie Pippen So again, you guys let me know in the comments what you think I'll make sure you prepare your thoughts comments and questions about this particular topic when this video drops We will be going live We will be discussing these This particular issue in the live chat and I would love to hear from you guys about this particular story and not just about this Particular issue, but I want to know you know What do you think about narratives in the NBA how narratives are controlled by players agents? GM's ownership and and how It can affect the game if these narratives are successfully executed by any one of those aforementioned People That have the power to do so. 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