Rubio on StandPoint with Gabe Groisman podcast

and we're back for episode 12 of stpoint I'm Gabe Gman and I'm so honored today to have with us Senator Marco Rubio usually on the show I do long intros of who our guests are so everybody knows who they are and to level set but today we don't have to do that Senator Rubio thank you so much for being here with me than uh today we're going to cover some interesting topics obviously Tik Tok which is the topic of the week also the new era that we're facing in Latin America with some big positive changes Senator Rubio just came back from a trip there from Argentina the Homeland where my parents and grandparents came from um and also some news out of Israel or out of the democratic side of the Senate and things that they're trying to push now with Israel and we'll get to hopefully all three of these topics um so Senator Rubio just to jump in the house passed a bill this week as you know I uh requiring Tik Tok to cut ties with the parent company um bite dance that owns the algorithm that drives TI talk that's that's in turn controlled by the CCP um you've spoken out about this and how this is a national security threat to the United States I think this is really just uh some sort of technical thing on social media but really there is a national security implication here it should for two reasons the first is a highly technical it's a new area of threat to the country and I'm going to try to explain that in the moment and the other is that it's very popular people like it and it's actually what makes it so popular that makes it uh such a a threat in in some ways let me explain what I mean Tik Tok is the social media app I describe it to people as the short form videos and they're very popular but the thing that makes it very popular is the thing literally reads your mind and um meaning it the more you use it the more it knows the kinds of things you like and like to watch and the kinds of things you're not that interested in and so the more you use it the more it feeds you things you like and suddenly it starts feeding you things you didn't know you like uh or even knew existed but they knew you would like it once you saw it and that's all based on an algorithm art this is artificial intelligence that's what this is you want people ask about what artificial intelligence is this is what it is the ability of machines to learn from about human behavior and to predict human behavior to in essence predict what it is you're going to like okay all of that is built on artificial intelligence and it's built on an algorithm now that algorithm is not owned by Tik Tok it's owned by their parent the name of the parent company is bite dance and bite dance is a Chinese company it's headquartered in China under the laws of China that parent company bik dance that owns Tik Tok but more importantly owns the thing that makes Tik Tok special under Chinese law they have to do whatever the government tells them to do whatever the government tells them to do bik has to do and so if as they have done now in Taiwan and and in some other countries the Chinese Communist party goes to bite dance and says we want you to use this algorithm to and everything you've learned about the people in that country to uh change their values change their opinions change how they're going to vote or try to influence what they're going to see what kind of messages are going to be out there bik dance has no choice but to do it now the way they'll defend It Is by saying well Tik Tok is americ it's in America and the data of Americans is in America and look there's value to that data but the value of the data is not the data the value of the data is that that data which is made up of who you are where you live what you watch what you like what you buy where where you've been all those things that data is what feeds that algorithm that's what that algorithm is built on and so there's no way that the engineers at bik dance in China can have an algorithm that works unless they have access to the data matter where you store it you know you can store it like Oracle does in Texas the the engineers at bite dance in China have to have access to it because they um the algorithm doesn't work without it and so what this law would do and what we've argued for a long time is you know Tik Tok can continue to operate but it has to divest and has to separate from bite dance and as's bite dance has to sell it and bik dance says it won't primarily because the Chinese government won't allow it if bike dance were allowed to sell today they' probably get out 690 billion I mean their valuation is very high they probably would sell it's not a bad deal at this point it's not I think the problem is the Chinese government will not allow it to be sold and they will not allow they will not allow the algorithm to be sold and so people ask well how does this become a a problem well it's not a problem immediately first of all it' be hard to tell it's a problem because some of this is slowly Bri building up but ex imagine for example that the United States and China are headed for a conflict somewhere in the world I want anywhere and and suddenly bite Dance's algorithm is adjusted so that the family members of people who serve in the military start to see videos about how many how horrible it's going to be for Americans how they're going to die why it's so stupid for America to get involved and all of a sudden we're going to have people pressuring politically not to keep Tik Tok alive like you're seeing now they're going to be pressuring them do not go to war with China I don't want my son or daughter to die it's not worth fighting it's not worth fighting this war whatever it may be now people have a right to express that view but we have a real concern about American public opinion being manipulated by foreign power now one more point I would make here's one of the arguments you're going to hear people make is well how's that any different from what Facebook and meta does or we know what other social media companies well number one it's true they all have algorithms they all build it on data and I'm not saying that that shouldn't also be looked at but there's a big difference between something that's controlled by a company who CEO we may not like or who have a history of doing things that we don't like we should deal with that but there's a big difference between that and something that's controlled by a foreign government not just a foreign government but a foreign government that wants to not just be an alternative to America in the world they want to replace America they want to become the most powerful Nation on Earth they want to weaken America in the process process and there's a big difference between something like this owned by that that kind of government and by an American corporation who by the way if if they want to pass bills tomorrow that may allow us to sue social media companies for the decisions they make like cens ship I'm for that too we should do that but but but that's a but I don't think the answer the problem of beta whatever we me Instagram and Facebook and all that I don't think the answer to that is is to allow the Chinese to continue to operate in this way so this is where has this come to a and um you know that I was I believe I'm pretty confident I'm the first member of Congress back in 2019 that called attention to this problem H it started building up SLE work with the Trump Administration in 2020 they tried to do a ban they didn't the court said they didn't have the authority and that's why Congress to pass a law yeah it's Tak it's taken some years for people to to really look at this as a real issue as opposed to sort of a conspiracy theory but we're seeing it play out I can just tell you my a young cousin who's a a university student at NYU and the Discord that Tik Tok shows on college campuses and really around our country is incredible if she was comparing with her friend their Tik toks and the algorithms what they were showing on for example what was happening in between Israel and Kamas where most college students were getting just pure lies and propaganda on their Tik Tok and of course then driving them to to go to these protests and to have these crazy opinions that we're seeing all over all over our country against Israel against the United States whereas this one student her Tik Tok looked totally different and really the the it's the algorithm itself the real question always ends up being whether and I don't know if we know the answer to that whether there's evidence that the Chinese government itself is sewing the Discord or whether it's just the way the algorithm works and it just drives people you know to the edges of their propensities yeah but I mean here here's the thing about National Security right um so you know North Korea has nuclear weapons and we're very concerned about them they've never launched them against anyone North Korea has never there's no evidence that North Korea has ever used the Nu weapons or that the Russians have for that matter or that the Chinese have for that matter um so why are we concerned about nuclear weapons that never been used the answer is not that they've never been used but that they could be used and that we know they plan to use them in a time of conflict that's why we're concerned about not just nuclear weapons but any other military capabilities that they have and that's the same here there's a very powerful tool weapon for psychological warfare for cognitive Warfare for influencing uh elections and American politics it's a very powerful tool and that number and it's a very difficult thing to prove until after the fact that they've used it because I like a weapon you don't see some detonation these are algorithms they're highly technical they very complicated it's difficult to know ahead of time or identify it until it's had its impact and it's too late but the fact that they haven't done it yet they have done they have done it in Taiwan they have done there's evidence all over the world that the algorithms on Tik Tok censor speech on things like uh weager Muslims and Shing xang and Hong Kong and Tibet and the do Lama and and any issues that the Chinese are at tan Square for example you're going to see a lot of videos on that anywhere in the world on the Tik Tok app because they not they don't allow it in China but they allowed that that's the irony but they allow it everywhere all over the rest of the world where they spread it so the fact that they haven't done it this way the capability exists and the intent exists to wage like psychological warfare on the United States uh the only thing missing is the opportunity or the conflict in which they would do it same with cyber you know we we know that the Chinese have penetrated all sorts have tried to penetrate and have penetrated everything from Water Systems to the electrical grid of this country to the banking system they haven't done it they haven't shut out the power grid of the United States but they would in a time of conflict so in National Security we are always worried about potential uh uh weapons and and tools available to an adversary that that that could potentially be used in the time of conflict and this is one of them so before we move on on it are we going to see the Senate take take this issue take up this Bill are we going to see it past the Senate it seems to be more controversial in the Senate than in the house well there's a couple things I think there's some people that just don't understand the issue well I think there's some issue people that are frankly and I understand uncomfortable with the idea that we're going to ban something that over 100 million Americans have on their phones that would they don't not in favor of government doing that um there are some people that come from it from a very pure libertarian standpoint of the government shouldn't be involved in this and then frankly there's a lot of lobbying and a lot lot of money going around I mean the the Tik Tok has spent millions of dollars they've hired all kinds of lobbyists on both sides of the um they've hired former staffers of key Senators to Lobby on this issue I mean they basically it's an all Hands-On deck they have spent more money on lobbying probably than any other company up in Washington in the last six months or a year um so there's a lot of that going on too here and um so you know look at nothing in the Senate moves as fast as things do in the house but I'm glad we're going to have this debate and I'm glad we're going to be able to educate people about it and you know we'll see when the time comes it'll ultim may be up to Senator Schumer who's the majority leader now to decide whether something comes to the floor or not and had a big support in the house and I think that should be something we take into consideration but you know that that we'll have to work it I mean I I still I recognize that for most people uh they still haven't heard all the arguments on both sides here it's an important policy debate and one on God we're gonna have and I hope we can get a good out yeah absolutely so one place where China has uh sunk its teeth into really is Latin America and we see them taking over in the United States we finally push back against Chinese technology being used in our ports uh but now that's something that's rampant in Latin America we've seen socialism On The Rise throughout throughout the region poverty throughout the um On The Rise throughout the region as a result uh but there are some bright spots uh my country where my parents and grandparents are from Argentina you just came back from visiting president mle the by the way just the pictures are incredible this guy's personality person has one for the history books I've had the pleasure of meeting him before right before he was president and a really impressive guy and Economist who's really pushing capitalism and pushing against corruption in Argentina and we're already starting to see some results so just first how how was that meeting what was it like to be a monotis and finally a new day there well it was a great meeting first of all I know his personality is you know eccentric in some people's minds but the guy's a very serious guy one-on-one he's a he's a real legit Economist um he's got real IDE is about what he's trying to do and look he's trying to unravel 60 70 years of really bad public policy basically leftist populism um that's destroyed the Argentine economy that 100 years ago was I think the eth or ma largest in the world and and now you know it's one of I think the largest Deb under the eye of international monetary fund for example and Argentina's problem is they have America spending problem like we do here in America but not America's credit rating so they can't get the anym funding so they're G it comes to a head here and he's out had two months of surpluses as a result of the decisions he's been able to make as president and I think that's beginning to change Concepts uh internationally about investment in Argentina I think the other opportunity is the one you touched on look the Chinese are trying to become a go power so good try it play everywhere and they're interested in three things the first and foremost is the exploitation of raw material if you have if you have lithium if you have Rare Earth minerals if you have Farmland if you have oil or natural gas if you have natural resources they want to exploit they want to come into your country they want to buy a longterm and AR Argentina has all of Argentina has all of those things they do so Argentina is a pretty significant um uh source of lithium already I think they have a potential to even surpassed Chile as an exporter they they sell a lot to China now as a result of deals that were done in the past but they have the opport to expand that even further and to do it in ways that the Chinese companies don't know how it environmentally safe and that would actually local locally employ people as opposed to what the Chinese do which is import workers so my view of it is this when there's a country that elects a leader and that leader says I want to get closer to America and less relying on China I think it is in our national interest uh to reciprocate it's in our national interest to say here's a leader that who wants to to America and uh we should reciprocate and it's important for those leaders to to be able to go to their people and say these are the benefits of being closer to America investment partnership security cooperation uh mutual respect they pay attention to our issues that that's important to me and I think that should be important for our country when someone says I want to be a friend of America Americans will say yes and we want to be your friend in return and we want to do more things together so that's the opportunity we have in Argentina above all else you know internally they'll make their own decisions about what direction they and uh someone who believes a limited government and fiscal sanity I obviously you know find a lot of appeal to a president Malay is outlining but that's up for the people Argentina to decide what what I think is in our national interest is we have a president that says I want Argentina to be Allied to the United States and less dependent on China we should embrace that and say how can we build on that how can we make you successful on that endeavor so that you can go to people and say you see if you're a friend of America it's good for your country so better it's better to be friends with America than it is to be friends with China Russia Iran yeah I mean it's B foreign policy 101 basic foreign policy but somehow for some reason we're not seeing the administration make those overtures even though Argentina is rejected Bricks now he said on his campaign that he's not going to do business with China he's going to allow argentinians to do whatever they want from uh as private individuals but as a country he's not going to do that he's clearly making overtures to the United States why is it that we're not seeing that reciprocation from the president from the White House well I think the our lack of doing that falls usually into one or two buck it's the first is just sheer negligence we just don't pay enough attention in the Western Hemisphere um and and and I think that's a broad problem that we Trad that's number one the second problem that we have is we have this tendency particularly because they're not paying as much attention at the high levels it empowers lower level people at the state department and sometimes in the embassies themselves to basically act like bullies to basically go into countries and say well we we don't care if you want to be closer to the United States we don't don't like that you're doing this or that you're doing that so in some cases they're socially conservative countries like Paraguay or Guatemala and you know our Embassy gets upset when um those governments are not embracing you know gay pride month or whatever and those leaders say look we're a socially conserved country it's not the stuff doesn't go over well of here and so we end up even though they want to be closer to America geopolitically we end up condemning them or you know sanctioning people or what have you so that that's become a factor in other cases it's things like uh well you know some army unit 40 years ago committed human rights abuses and so therefore you know we're not going to sell a military weapons to you because of something that generals who have long ago died did 40 years AG there's no one alive or even involved in military to didn't anything to do with those human rights Rec abuses back in the day but nonetheless they still hold the current governments responsible so there's some element of that as well so whether it's a Dominican Republic whether it's people accusing buelli and El Salvador who was just reelected resoundingly in an election that no one claims was fraudulent they accuse him of being a dictator whether it's uh the you know those are the two countries that come to mind uh that that are really tried to get closer to America and instead we issued sanctions and tried to punish them you know it's disturbing and I and I think it's important you know and because a lot of people in Congress don't pay attention to that part of the hemisphere a lot of these embassies get away with this stuff too there's no one you know you couldn't do that it was you know you don't the foreign policy of the United States towards Israel for example is not set by the embassy it's set by the state department but in a lot of these countries that no one's paying attention we basically delegate too much authority to these local levels who end up you know bullying some of these leaders in ways that are contrary to our national interests so we that's something we need to address by by one policy makers like myself others joining me and paying more attention I was from Paraguay after my trip to Argentina I think I was the first Senator to visit Paraguay in 40 years there had not been a US senator to visit years and um um so it just gives you an example of obviously I get it there's a lot going on in the world Paraguay is a small country but it just goes to show um there are still a lot of places we just don't pay a lot of attention to yeah Paraguay is another one it's another important country in Latin America the new president there is Pena another conservative young Economist uh from the party of arioz as you know from the the president before this last one and what what's incredible when you see that and you see El Salvador with n bu how quickly things change uh in Latin America if we go from one in Brazil was the same thing you go from one side of the of the political Spectrum to the other it seems like it's up for grabs and it seems that uh issues that we are dealing with all over the world whether it's Hezbollah in the north and Lebanon who operates throughout Latin America or Iran who's the you know the the the head of the snake of everything that's happening in Latin America is also behind much of what's happening in South America and somehow our country continues to to ignore it at least that the ex cutive Level under this President so I'm happy you were there na bukel so you know he was a former mayor and I went with him as Mayors when I was a mayor uh to Israel on an international mayor's trip and he's a incredibly interesting guy very very smart who's making big changes and again people in our country they're upset that the the other party has disappeared essentially it's like yeah well they were voted out and they were socialist and corrupt so maybe they're in a better place now than they were before so thank you for continuing to push in Latin America as someone whose family comes from there it's important to me and I think it's important to America um we're talking now let's just shift over quickly to Israel I was going to talk to you about the military assistant assistive funding um that has been sort of kicked back and forth in 167 billion doar to Israel um and that funding seems never to be going through which we'll talk about in a second but just before we started here this morning Senator Schumer put out a statement pushing for a two-state solution now and it seems to be a reward to the Ians for committing the biggest terror act in the history of the state of Israel um what what's your position on that why is it that we're seeing such a push is it really just as as shallow as trying to get electoral votes in Michigan or is there something more to it yeah there's two elements here the F the the two-state solution that they're talking about is not uh Palestinian State and Israelis it's uh Michigan and Minnesota those are the two states that they're trying to solve um for for the elections in November here's the second point in a perfect world like a world of perfect hermit um but it would be great right and I think Israel has tried this on multiple occasions for there to be a land a territory a country that Palestinians could call their own and they would coexist peacefully alongside the Jewish state of Israel there complexities over what would be what kind what the land would be what's the status of each Jerusalem and all those things that make the deal complicated and there's realities the world has changed over 50 um and that's not unusual I mean there there's no country in the world whose borders have not changed and moved as a result of wars and conflicts and things like that Texas us to belong Mexico and then Texas was its own Republic and then it became part of the United States so these things happen and I think that's happened in Israel particularly as a result of conflicts and Wars where Israel's had to create more and more buffer against neighbors who were have attacked so that's what makes it complicated but let's just say that that's ideal here would be my question okay so who would govern who would be in charge of this Palestinian state is it because right now the only two organizations that claim to speak for the Palestinians are Hamas and F uh and the Palestinian Authority both of them both of them pay rewards to terrorists who who kill to the families of terrorists who die in Terrorist tax to that kill Israelis and the more Jews you kill the more they reward you the bigger your rewards are they build statues and monuments they don't build statues and monuments for peacemaking it builds statues and monuments for terrorists in their school system little children time they're four five 6 years of age they are taught that Jews are subhuman and that killing Jews is glorious so the these are the people are going to be the government these are the people are going to be in charge and um what guarantees are there for Israel that in fact now I I think the guarantees are that any land you turn over in the world as it exists today with the leadership that exists today in the Palestine in the world that that territory is almost guaranteed to become a Launchpad for Iran and the groups they sponsored because at the core of all of this people think that the core issue in the Middle East is the Israeli Palestinian situation it's not the core issue in the Middle East is that Iran wants to be a dominant Regional power and the two things standing in their way from achieving that are the presence of the United States and Israel they they obviously they want America they want to drive us out of the region which is why they have all these proxies attacking us so that Americans will say it's not worth it let's just get out of there and then they want to destroy Israel they can't beat Israel in a frontal military conflict but they can they can make Israel an un livable place they can use their proxies in irck and Syria to move into in tople Jordan and then once they have a presence in Jordan they can attack Israel from from West Bank from Gaza from Syria uh from Jordan just surround it make Israel in a lival place and then collapse it as a state that's their goal and that's what's driving all of this that is what and until that problem is solved none of these other problems can be solved because they are ones that are driving this irritant and we have trouble accepting that reality we think that the problem with Iran is just their nuclear ambition it's much broader than that they desire to be a regional hegemonic power and to do it they've got to drive America out of there and then they have to make Israel an a livable place so to State as as we know it would collapse at that point now they can move on bin they can maybe they can ever take Saudi Arabia but they could go after all these other uh kingdoms uh Gulf kingdoms that are much smaller in capability they already have a presence in Yemen and all of a sudden Iran now becomes the most powerful country and they have achieved their objective which is to drive from The River To The Sea as they like to chant every Jew out of there a region with no Jews from a river to the Seas they like the chat these idiots in the street don't even know what it means or they do know what it means pretend they don't chants but that's their objective and that is the core that's the core problem and mean meanwhile the President yesterday was announced uh is issuing a sanctions waiver for Iran again that'll allow 10 billion doll to flow to them for more purchase of oil so it's the opposite but what's crazy to me is is the following is before October 7th in American political discourse at least in in the halls of Congress privately on both sides of the aisle any sentient being any smart person who really understands the issue even a little bit would say to you everybody knows that the two-state solution is dead the idea of a two-state solution it's not there we got to find a different way Oslo is dead you know we have to we have to just start keep our feet moving forward and keep pushing now the Abraham Accords and try to go out this through a different at a different direction and October 7th should have taken it even more to that direction right say okay these people the Palestinians can't govern there's no there's there's this fantasy that they can govern that if they had just a little bit more land they'd be peaceful they've proven that that's not true they had a quasi state in Gaza and we got what we got we're having the violence in judan Samar and the West Bank every single day despite the president calling out the Jews there it's actually the Arabs that are committing Terror attacks on a daily basis there every single day and uh meanwhile American political discourse is going towards the direction of providing more uh more rope for the Palestinians and more land and more acceding more to what they've been pushing for actually showing them and they say it themselves as you know that they're uh that their strategy is working because now they're they're closer to getting a state than they were before and and by the way they also say as you know that getting a state is just uh one step closer to taking the whole thing from The River To The Sea um and and I I just but for me I would love to just get your opinion on that why why is there such a disconnect between the reality the objective reality and what we're seeing come out of the mouths of so many leaders in our country yeah well I think is a couple things the first is uh there I think our foreign policy leaders particular career bureaucrats at the state department and others involved in think tanks are some of the most gullible people they just are they don't live in reality U they think that every country in the world is some Western European nation or Belgium you're TI these there's a reality about the Middle East that requires to live with realism and I understand the the what the factors are that are in place and you've outlined one of them which is the the evidence of that is that they're very generous authors many 20 years ago for a Palestinian State and they were reject they were flat out rejected um and they were rejected because they didn't go foreign because they're objective is State their objective is the entire today is known as Israel that's their objective so um and anything less than that is Du to his betrayal and and and is not rewarded there's no reward for being a peacemaker unfortunately in in in Palestinian political circles these days and so that there's just no one to negotiate but people are very gullible that's the first and then you've got this whole um anti-colonialism argument where the argument they're basically applying to Israel is that these are I mean this is I'm just paraphrasing what their argument would be is that a bunch of Europeans Jews after the second world war basically colonized a land that belonged to Arabs and um and drove them out of there and and so it's they're illegitimate and and and that there's this whole anticolonialism argument that's now being applied to Israel which of course ignores 5,000 years of history and all kind kinds of archaeological and historical evidence of the fact that there's been a continuous Jewish presence in that part of the world uh throughout uh that period of time but you know I mean that's what we're dealing with here and unfortunately it's become ingrained in our higher education system and our popular culture in Hollywood and the media uh and and certainly in global political circles as well it's become deeply ingrained and I mean it's just one of the it's one of those things where we're um one of those causes that's the right place to be you're not going to win a lot of popularity contest and so what you have to do is just say I'm right and I'm going to apply realism and strength uh to protect my position and I hope that Global public opinion and Elite public opinion will one day change but our insurance against it actually becoming policy is to be is to remain firm and to apply strength and re and realism to to the con to to the situation that we face right now in that part of the world and that is this that the state of Israel would not exist if Israel did not use was not able to defend itself and was not able to threaten its adversaries with overwhelming uh military capability and the will to do it um that it faces existential threats and that it needs to respond in kind that's the reality today maybe one day we'll live in a world where that's not the case but today right now that's the world we live in and that's the world we've lived in for quite a while thank you all right so final question just because I want to respect your time um and because I could speak to you all day I have so many so many followup questions on everything you're saying so I really appreciate it but how can we get Americans to understand the importance of what happens outside of our borders what impact that has here on the home front we're hearing more and more voices saying you know whether it's part of the quote unquote America first movement which means different things to different people but really we keep hearing things on both sides of the aisle of why are we dealing with what's happening there you you serve on Foreign Affairs on intelligence you've been in the senate for a while I don't think anyone in the Senate knows more than you I mean you're there you're there the upper lines there what why is it that what happens outside of our borders impacts us directly here in America well I think we're seeing it in our own border why are people coming to the border of the United States for two reasons number one because the Biden Administration put in place policies that are encourage them to come and number two because they're leaving countries where there are problems they're leaving socialism Marxism and Narco dictatorship in Venezuela they're leaving chaos in Haiti they're leaving Marxism and failed communism in Cuba they're they're leaving violence and uh everything that comes with what's happening in other parts of the world in Africa and the Middle East they're I believe coming because they're Crim in some cases they're party criminal gangs that see the opportunity to go into the United States all this emanating from a barage so those issues are relevant the others our national security our own interest America is a big powerful country the most powerful in the world we have Global interests we sell our products and goods and Americans travel all over the world and so we we have interests in our all parts of the world now we have to um prioritize those because we have domestic needs too uh we're not in an era we can go around being the government of the world that's solving every problem on the planet I look at the situation in Haiti it's heartbreaking it's very tragic there's not a lot we can do about to be honest with uh we have very few options about what we do in that regard and uh so I think we live in a period of time in which we have to be very uh uh smart about prioritizing what is in our national interest versus you know what we have to do versus what we'd like to do because the have to do are the ones we have to focus on but we can't isolate from the world the world's problems just cuz we ignore them they will not ignore us we're America and they will come for us yeah well thank you and thank you senator for everything you do and I know you're gonna you're going to push to get the Israel's military assistance through somehow some way with all that back and forth uh and difficulties politically internally and you continue to do all the great work you're doing so thank you so much thank you everyone for listening Please Subscribe follow do all those great things you do to support podcast and Senator Rubio thank you so much for being a friend thank you I appreciate it