How Bad Is San Francisco Really? w/ Kai Vetteth

is San Francisco really that bad here to discuss this question we got Bay area native and upcoming comedian Kai vth yo thanks for being here with us oh thanks so much for having me I've been hearing some San Francisco slander from you guys uh no no are you defending San Francisco's honor I will defend San Francisco's honor yeah so here to tell you're here to tell us the truth about San Francisco from your perspective I'm not saying I'm a San Francisco expert I never say I'm an expert on the politics I just say talk about what I see well to be clear it's not about the politics I don't really know that stuff as much but I I could I've been there a lot because I'm from there and uh you know I go back visit my family all the time and uh it seems overblown like you guys right you're saying the apocalypse seems overblown and this is actually the number one post of the year on the Bay Area Reddit is this beautiful bolic video of uh I forgot what this hill is called this is a very famous iconic hippie Hill Hipp Francisco and this is what it says I've heard San Francisco is a terrible place to be and everybody is afraid to leave their houses and then they show like what appears to be the best coolest like wholesome Woodstock scene you've ever seen it's super normal man like I mean there's definitely more homeless people there's definitely like some weird stuff and you can't you know leave in your car CU it'll get stolen and you know you'll get broken into so so what is true about it that's true so what's true so what is true come on K you can't just say God so intense I'm just saying because this person said oh you post a video of a neighborhood where the median income is $200,000 a year and sfpd pledged to increase patrols recently of hippie Hill and you're saying this is not the tender loiner off Market guys it just depends on what neighborhood you're in so address that comment I didn't 100% understand all the things you just said basically this person was saying that hippie Hill where this beautiful scene was that median income in that specific part of SFS 200k and the sfpd has pledged to protect it yeah so it's not representative of the whole picture yeah I mean it's definitely not representative of the whole picture the tenderloin is rough I've heard like downtown is rough but I think I think the argument is that the tenderloin got even worse the tenderloin was always rough I think it yeah I it I heard I heard it's seeping into the S District which is an area that I knew people that moved to like tech people had moved out of Soma because in the past 10 years 8 years they felt like it got worse no doubt I think the crime and stuff and like the lowlevel crime and homelessness and stuff like that definitely is getting worse don't get me wrong I just like my friends who are from other places like one of my friends from North Carolina was like it's just like a horrible dangerous place to be it's like that's that's definitely not true not so you're saying it's overblown but you could see that in some pockets it's getting there's elements of it that's definitely bad like we didn't have to do this thing where you hide everything under the seats of your car when you leave like that didn't used to be a thing but now you can't have anything out cuz cuz your wind you'll just come back and your windows smash like that does happen I mean there's people that are pre- smashing their Windows just to let people know that there's nothing in the that's [ __ ] man that's some [ __ ] you see on Tik Tok there's no way that that's ridiculous it wasn't on Tik Tok it was on Instagram reals news I don't know see I don't know what do you mean by pre- Smashing your windows people are leaving broken glass around their window I don't know how many people did I'm just saying it got to that point where some people thought this might be a legit tactic I think if they're doing that they're idiots and we shouldn't and we shouldn't take their opinion seriously to begin with they're going to roll their window down and sprinkle broken glass back we're going to SF next week cuz all we know is that homeless people really they really put that logic together okay so but I will say of the last year obviously all the Bay Area posts are about McDonald's worker in Oakland walked off the job in a strike I cleaned another dump site on the Coliseum Way in Oakland uh no well a lot of Oakland specifically is in the news because in now closed down Denny's is closing down yeah they're leaving Oakland I have heard that small businesses have been closing down because there's a lot more break-ins and it's not being enforced as not just small businesses in Oakland big businesses are closing down in Oakland sure like big chain businesses I mean I'm I'm not an In-N-Out so I I don't really know no I meant like uh like Walmarts and type stuff like well you know what I noticed man I I'll say this a lot of stuff whether it's about La whether it's about SF it's like it's overblown but there's something to it I think that that's the truth is that like the media that has a certain political agenda they can twist it but they can't twist nothing there's certainly something happening like I know Seattle is much less safe than it used to be sure downtown Seattle yes we never were I never worried about gangs growing up in Seattle I'm not saying there wasn't petty crime like you said as a city but like people running up on people with uh like almost like some crazy Street Tales that's a real reality in Seattle in 2024 that was not a reality I get I get what you're saying and I don't disagree I mean there's definitely an increase in crime and stuff like that petty crimes lowlevel stuff and it's definitely not good like it's not good that people just run into a CVS and like take it like that's not that's not good that is happening everywhere though all the big cities sure all the but I I do think I've heard it's happening more in San Francisco because of enforcement but I'm I'm not really familiar with that but the thing that I think is like interesting or the thing that's neglected is like it's not violent most of it it's not good but you don't feel like super unsafe just walking around in San Francisco and maybe tenderloin sure tenderloin I felt unsafe even before this stuff but like other other places you just walk around it's just like a normal City I see what you're saying because people say the same things about New York too you know you could look people say that about New York like you you talk to people from the Midwest about New York they're like man you you live in a dangerous city it's like you're walking around like Lower Manhattan it's fine there's well you said you feel much safer in New York than you did in Chicago for sure absolutely I I mean you don't I I moved to New York from Chicago and I haven't heard a gunshot since right you're saying that you used to hear active gunfire all the time in Chicago yes yes I mean all the time is is not exactly but you'd hear it you definitely hear so Kai what you're saying is compared to Chicago San Francisco's not that bad yeah that is 100% what I'm saying that's my reference point is Chicago those are the three C hey guys guys guys please don't let the conversation of San Francisco put it in the same Chicago they're different cuz you're saying you're acknowledging that SF did get a little worse totally totally okay yeah but it's not as bad as people say yeah it's not like the apocal well I mean like I have some friends who are like really they like watch Fox News and stuff they're like that like conservative whatever and I think the way Fox News is portraying it is is like it's insane but I will say if it's so easy and this is just a question seeped into regular people but so easy for the news and even like social media and I'm not saying to ever trust fully news and social media cuz things are people Clips can be taken out but I guess if it's the evidence on these news and social media sites are so overwhelmingly in the negative then there obviously has to be truth to it there's definitely truth to it I'm not disagreeing with that I also think I think the funny thing that I thought is uh like people were com people were complaining about the Bay Area being like gentrified now like it's all tech people and stuff like that techs and Teslas techs and Teslas or whatever and prices are going up and stuff prices aren't going up as much right now homeless people smash smash a window maybe you can live in San Francisco too even if you don't work that is true it is depressing I guess the rising housing cost if the housing prices are going up and people want them to stay low or stay stagnant or whatever it's like maybe this is the way maybe we got to smash some windows you're saying rent or buy now because it's low I'm saying we got to I think we should just walk down the street with a crowbar and break everything so then uh regular people can live in San Francisco again there bring it back to where it was there's a logic to it but you know different different sides of the coin here let's move on to this meme I'm going to drive a Tesla to express my unique fny modern sense of style Bay Area what's up with the Teslas bro and the do people hate Elon do they love Elon cuz they're sure buying a lot of his cars um I think the buying of Teslas has definitely dropped off since he like laid off a bunch of people at Twitter and stuff like that like I think people people soured on Elon are people in the Bay Area who are like less into Elon Musk and Teslas and stuff do you think they would move on to what Lucid air some other luxury EV brands or are they just buying like the electric BMWs and lexuses or what are they like are they still staying on EV right cuz they don't want to pollute uh I don't think they ever really didn't want to pollute I think they just thought it was cool like fashionable okay I don't think those people really care about pollution that much like they should just have a fewer one fewer kid what do you think about the tech layoffs Tech layoff big Tech had massive layoffs I want to say up to some companies even 10% of their Workforce yeah I mean I don't I'm not well equipped to talk about that I did want to say on the car thing though uh the cool thing now is there's all these self-driving cars like not like a Tesla self-driving cars but there's like these like self-driving taxi cars are just driving around San Francisco right you can get picked up by nobody in an Uber that has no driver like the literally the steering wheel is moving independently it's crazy they have like the cameras rotating on top and stuff they're I don't think like consumer cars but you can take an Uber or a whatever AO let me ask you what your prediction is sure do you think how many years do you think it'll take for the Bay Area to or let's just say SF yeah to bounce back will it bounce back to what it was maybe 12 years ago 10 years ago or is it just is it a dystopian future because right now there's so many photos and even the socks at Target are clamped up in the cages now even the socks are caged up deodorants caged up but on the other end you have a wh with like 6 7500 liar scanners on the top being the most advanced robot taxis you're saying we're going to get to I my prediction is we get to a point where we have cars with no drivers and we have no socks and then what SF bounces back or what I don't know man that's like that's all politics and stuff right it depends on who gets elected and things like that like I don't know like I feel like it's just fine all right so SF SF is fine that's your takeway itar super bullish on it man what's your prediction you think it's going or you I think it will start to I I feel like from what I understand about the politics they're starting to speak more uh strict now and that they're going to start making CH but change I think it's a pendulum right it's like they the reason that they weren't enforcing this stuff as to my very very limited understanding the reason why they weren't enforcing it was because they felt like they were like over Prosecuting people right like someone would steal like a candy bar and then they'd spend a year in jail and that's not helpful I think that's the problem they were trying to solve and then they like maybe overcorrected or whatever now they let them steal a 100 now you can just steal a bunch of [ __ ] and people are just doing it like deliberately now but I think it'll yeah I mean it'll just keep adjusting right I I think it's uh 10 years away honestly I think things take that long and I think to build more housing affordable housing and to 10 years ago like you're saying to get back to where it was 10 12 years ago but I think it was fine like 5 years ago right like it's 2024 now in 2019 no I meant I think this is just my random opinion I have no guys I have like no basis to say this I just think it's going to be 10 years until it to reach what it was dude years ago I think in 10 years they'll be a VR headset that'll make us not care about any of this right it's going to look different cuz you're saying the world could be burning in your front lawn but as long as you're protected by bulletproof class and you got GPT came out this year that or last year like that that's like such a big change I feel like in 10 years like what are we going to care about what products are locked up at a CVS okay okay I got it I got it I got it there's going to be build nice buildings in within 10 years it's going but certain parts of downtown are going to be fenced off like when all the world leaders come Children of Men or something and then everybody's going to have Vision Pro on do living their life within this cage in San Francisco to make the cage seem more expensive so it's going to be like a 30 Block cage that's protected but within that 30 Block it's going to be like a Utopia but a lot of it's going to be because of Vision Pro no no no inside the Utopia it'll be like Demolition Man which was an old Sylvester Stallone movie you probably didn't watch it but outside Andrew it's going to be like Judge Dread land so inside is Demolition Man pop up the photo outside is Judge Dread I'll be completely honest I think of that that happened I just moved back to Chicago all right you guys let us know what you think of the future of the Bay Area in the comment section below a lot of different Dynamics going on obviously the tech is still there even though some of the tech has left and become work from home all this stuff is happening in Oakland is it overblown is it not overblown is it the media with an agenda and an election year or is it real sound like Bill bur yeah you heard you heard what Kai thinks he thinks it's all good I don't know kai kai I need to see you put some money invest invest in some Properties or tell your family to in SF you're that bullish I I think they're invested yeah they I'm I'm just I'm just trying to you guys are influencers like guys this guy just trying to boost up the property Equity man it's fine keep moving back keep investing y this whole video was a sales pitch yo don't let my dad go bankrupt fun Bros hold on where's the vth brand deal vth family brand deal I need that all right just kidding anyway guys uh check out his comedy down below um thank you so much for watching the hop hop boys and until next time we out peace guys