she is the number one trendiest academic
coach on YouTube getting millions of
views telling you how to get straight
A's we got wayy in the house yeah thank
you for joining us today you're also a
product of hyper academic Focus Chinese
parents yes indeed but now you're giv
free game out to the world right mhm
that's what I do uh tell tell tell for
tell us what you do okay sure so I'm Amy
I'm a YouTuber I graduated from Caltech
where I studied chemical engineering and
after graduating I worked a couple years
in business management consulting but
now I help students and you know just
young people in general help reach their
potential to succeed in academics and
Beyond wow Amy you are doing everything
I want my kid to do except you are doing
it for free why why do you do this for
free you could get paid so much money
Consulting for college essays yeah for
sure for sure so I've considered you
know selling this kind of things but
YouTube I think is probably the best
platform to reach the most people
without people caring like who you are
to start and I actually started YouTube
because I wanted to share about Caltech
which is an extremely unique school it's
like Hogwarts but you don't see day in
the life of Caltech student like for
Stanford so I started that first and I
got tons of good feedback from students
like help me with this help me with that
and to feel that fulfillment and direct
impact um that was like a positive
feedback loop no that's dope I mean you
know what the funny thing is in Asia
there have always been like Superstar
like college Consultants or like these
academic Tutors or like famous
mathematicians but in the US there are
absolutely none yeah oh we that's not
cool bro out here we don't care about if
you're a tutor bro do you feel like the
US in a way is like kind of like a it's
it's it's weird I always thought the US
was weird because they really value
smart people to run Industries here and
like come up with new technologies to
boost the stock prices and make all
these products but on a pop cultural
level it's kind of like
anti-intellectual yes for sure I think
it's only cool if you can make money and
they use you to make money right right
right right but yeah I can't even name a
famous nerd like a famous academic like
other than Neil degrass Tyson you know
but like really who else can you name
that's like a famous nerd after Bill n
the Science Guy Neil deg grass Tyson who
Oppenheimer but even Oppenheimer he he
only was cool after they got Killian
Murphy to play him he didn't look like
killy and Murphy nobody dude nobody was
talking about Opie until the movie
dropped all right Opie yeah uh
um I guess I want to talk about like are
you teaching kids how important are
grades nowadays like are you te are do
you think you're teaching kids how to be
the best student because being the best
student is the most important thing in
life or what what is your whole view on
it because obviously you value academics
you achieved a lot on your own without
with minimal help you know outside help
but like our grades the most important
thing that people need to think about
where does it rank yeah so the bottom
line is that graders are definitely not
the most important thing I am a strong
believer that with the right work ethic
mindsets and techniques you can achieve
anything you want in life but the Avenue
by which I bring these Concepts and
stories is through academics because
those are what students latch on to
because they're desperate for these tips
and I think that's how I can actually
reach the people who need that right so
do you feel like a lot of your
viewership is kids who want to get
scholarships go to Elite institutions
get Ivy League schools will it work if
they're just doing it for their parents
or do they have to be intrinsically
motivated cuz like for example you
yourself you saying that you have a lot
of self-discipline right and I don't
know if I guess can you get into that
like the intrinsic motivation versus I'm
just doing this because my parents told
me to I don't actually want to do it um
yeah there's definitely a lot of people
who do well because they're forced to um
you know a lot of kids who go to Caltech
they're that might be forced as well um
but I think that overall my audience is
not only people who want to go to Elite
institutions they're also just kids who
want to please their parents to do what
they think is right in life which as a
kid that's probably academics outside of
being cool so um that's why I think that
by giving more of the perspective of
intrinsic motivation kids feel less
forced and probably happier overall to
maybe chase their own dreams with the
work ethic right and is there some sense
that like if you're helping this person
get into the best college possible
whether it be Ivy Le maybe it's not
whatever even if it's just UCLA or even
just their state school right these
things still matter like um that you're
also just trying to be like a non weird
awkward like tutor consultant you know
what I mean like you're trying to show
that you can be normal and have gotten a
4.0 GP and done all this on your AP test
and stuff like that yeah exactly so it's
kind of ironic that I'm making academic
videos like a nerd but what I'm trying
to do is show that you can be anything
you want to be being a nerd doesn't mean
that you get a 4.0 being having 4.0 can
also mean you play sports you can be a
YouTuber you can potentially later
become uh someone in Media or anything
like that and again it just comes from
you know like who you are instead of
what you do did you get the idea from
Asia at all where like there are like
Superstar tutors and like mathematicians
and stuff like that I did not okay share
with us a little bit of content for the
people who who haven't watched through
all your content what are some Secrets
or some tips quickly that uh people
should be thinking about more when it
comes to like applying for colleges like
this is for all the people out there who
are like you know didn't go to college
yet okay yeah so what I made the mistake
of doing is that I was focused too much
on what I thought I was good at which
was math competitions and I didn't
embrace the parts of like being creative
like I am now so I think that if I had
tried more things and discovered that
sooner my life would be on a completely
different trajectory and potentially
gotten into an IV League per se and yeah
right you would have went to Harvard and
then been in the creative writing or
written for the Harvard newspaper versus
like going to Caltech which is like a
hyper stem school so sue you doubled
down on math club essentially when you
could have showed that you had a
creative side as well and then maybe cuz
you you were a Stanford reject correct
yes I was yes no that was uh the first
video I've seen of yours uh a couple
years ago right that went really viral
right yes uhhuh uh I I guess like
uh
do what is uh why
why hold on I got a question oh three
two
one um being a model minority let's talk
about that real quick because I feel
like your channel in a comical way I
would say is like very model minority
right you're teaching kids like the the
tips and tricks to to be to get into the
best college which is a one of the
things that model minorities care about
what do you think about the model
minority myth do you think it's a myth
do you think it's true do you think it's
misunderstood how do you feel about it
because you made like a video about it
yeah so it's actually more of a concept
I learned recently and how I how I
understand it is that it's categorizing
all Asian Americans as a stereotypical
successful academically sound person so
um the question was like whether it's
harmful or like uh how harmful is it
yeah so I think that the harm comes from
putting all agan Americans together and
not looking at us as individuals and
related to that the second point would
be to make especially young
asian-americans feel like they're boxed
into this this stereotype that if we
don't do well in math then we have not
met anyone's expectations but um it kind
of goes with like my story where I want
to show that our work ethic and our
mindsets on all these things and who we
are can be more than the
stereotype what do you do you think that
uh but doesn't it feel like that the
model minority a lot there are a lot of
Asians that fall under the model
minority get like we're we're you would
have to say you know you fall under I've
even my family I would say the
trajectory of what we could have been
would fall more into that but I guess
like it's true for just a a large number
of people right yeah yeah stereotypes
all have some truth to it so I wouldn't
say it's like a myth completely you know
cuz you know a lot of Asians are good at
math a lot of Asians go to top schools
and things like that so I think it's all
about how we use that to still be our
own person but to realize that you know
as a culture we have these kinds of
things we value no for sure I mean I
think it's interesting like I guess do
you feel like it's just being
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chinesee just just Chinese people I'm
not saying that other Asians don't value
it as well right but they might be at a
seven out of 10 6 out of 10 8 out of 10
n out of 10 but I feel like Chinese
parents they value the elite academic
institution at a 10 out of 10 yeah for
sure Chinese are the most hardcore out
there man yeah why why why do we think
that is like I mean I think we've talked
about on this channel a number of times
but like I guess your perspective like
why do you think Chinese seem to be and
not all Chinese this is not all CH we
know Chinese who did not grow up
thinking about academics as much so it's
not every Chinese family of course but
it does seem like that as far as the
numbers wise Chinese care the
most so I don't know like all the
history behind you know like Chinese
Korean Japanese but I do think that's
because of the like government and
culture in China that's it's a little
more restrictive such that they they
can't develop as much autonomy and that
autonomy comes from you know uh
believing that other things should also
be valued in life outside of academics
right so my parents when they came from
China they kind of were frozen in time
with that mindset so they didn't adapt
to China um growing and they didn't
adapt to the US culture and that's why
immigrant Chinese parents are so like
hardcore about academics and Harvard and
all that
stuff yeah I mean I think it's they what
they see it as the only way cuz that's
all that they know if it's the only
thing you know then I guess logically
speaking you are going to push your kid
into it yeah for sure they see it as the
only way to really build a stable life
for yourself there because they didn't
think about being an entrepreneur when
they were growing up in China so do you
have a lot of Chinese parents being like
Oh my gosh thank you wayy you are making
it cool and you're doing my job for me
and you're like uh saving me a lot of
you're saving me a lot of money on a
college consultation for my ches parents
must love you right now because they're
like yeah oh hey um Charles I just saw
this new YouTuber um wayy you should
check her out she is my favorite there's
definitely some kids that got wayy
videos on Loop right now like like that
are like six years old yeah no I think
some kids probably hate me because their
parents put it on in the living room cuz
I've heard some parents have called me
up and be like hey like we play your
videos on the living room T TV and we
take notes and stuff and then like other
our Chinese parents and I'm like wanted
to watch Like The Avengers or animated
it's just me on the screen I'm like so
embarrassed I'm like bro that's not what
I want on my screen kid like Mom I
studied 6 hours so I could watch YouTube
yes this is YouTube wh is on YouTube
watch YouTube that's the whole reason I
got the YouTube
premium uh I I think that you know what
I always wish that I had and I think
this would have helped me get into more
Elite institutions I ended up getting a
small partial scholarship to my state
institution but uh I think that had I
had a group of friends that were
well-rounded that also cared about being
cool and fashion and stuff like that but
also were really locked into every rep
you know treating it like a sport
Varsity getting into good schools a
Varsity Sport I didn't have that at my
high school my score uh I think you're
in a similar situation my high school
was like super blue collar hypers Sports
Centric the richest guy I ever went to
school with went to the NBA like there's
no like Jeff Bezos or like private
Equity guys or like even like obviously
all the crypto guys are in jail now but
like even anybody from uh the crypto
genius world or Zuckerberg that came
from my high school you know what I mean
so I just don't feel like I had that
crowd that made it acceptable to me I
was like always fighting my parents
exactly cuz I I just saw that it wasn't
cool at my high school exactly and
that's all kids care about was being
cool at that age so like to have an
example to look up to someone I try to
be and we can see that also in like the
media now like with more Asian actors I
feel definitely a lot more pride in that
yeah I also feeling like yeah basically
if you feel like you're Community will
ostracize you for doing something you
are so much less likely to do it so like
if you feel uncool at school you're
talking about tribalistic social norms
yeah because within your immediate
environment an immediate tribe if you
feel uncool when you do something you
are going to be less likely to do it
right every Community has this Dynamic
but with different things that's a good
point did you have that group at school
or were you just the outlier that was
like hyper motivated where you didn't
need that around you cuz I needed the
Gang I needed the ivy league nerd gang
and I didn't have it yeah man I wish I
had a gang in high school my high school
is very very white my two best friends
were Asian and um I think they were very
studious but I was also involved in
sports so I feel like I worked hard
knowing that that's what I wanted but I
had to hide that from my peers like I
wouldn't say I was doing math
competitions on a weekend and things
like that right you would not tell that
to your other teammates like what what
sports did you play I played basketball
and tennis oh wow so you know when
you're on the basketball team you can't
tell them you're also going to the math
competition did that ever conflict your
math competitions in basketball season
uh honestly they didn't conflict that
much but I think I would actually go to
the basketball games over math
competitions right right right I'm
shocked that you pick basketball over
math competition I got a funny story
disgrace my national forensics League
debate coach I left my final round of
impromptu at the state
competition essentially I I left I I
ended up not making it but I left before
it even got announced if I made the
final round or not to go to the state
championship basketball game and my
debate coach never forgave me ever of
course not but but I wasn't on the team
I played on the sophomore basketball
team but I was still watching my friends
on Varsity compete for the state
championship and I remember I left and
uh Miss Dell shout out to miss Dell she
never forgave me for that because I was
obviously choosing to be cool over being
a nerd right right I I
guess did you know that you weren't
going to make it is that you had a
strong feeling so basically I purposely
did bad my final round to not have to go
to wow wow because first of all it was
just impromptu that is considered like
the most BS like it's not like Lincoln
Douglas within the debate world it's
like a very low ranked activity but she
was like so she was like anti- jock you
know what I mean like some of the
teachers at school are like super
jockish and some of them are like you
who believed in you David you
disappointed her it's true the
basketball coach has never believed in
me as much as my debate coach believed
in me and you just went over there to
watch I'm just speaking to this like
push and pull of what I knew was cool
and what I knew was like they ain't got
TV cameras at the they that that uh
state championship basketball game was
on TV oh man they they didn't got the
debate championships on TV no it was a
big game it was a big game uh you know
as a lover of sports I I think people
would understand but yeah I mean
gez why' you do it David um but yeah
overall I guess like how do you feel
about now being a full-time Creator when
you were a consultant you might go to
MIT for NBA right and so are you being a
Creator just in this in between time or
do you think it's actually going to be a
career are you just like this is like a
fun phase in my life I got to do this or
or you're like hey hold on like this
could lead to other things yeah so for
context I do have an offer from MIT for
an MBA so I'm in the period where I have
a full-time job and being a full-time
creator has honestly been amazing so far
I've met so many amazing people that I
think I Vibe with more um and I think
that I'm using this deferral period as
the chance to grow as much as I can
because ultimately I would love to make
this a career because I love impacting
people directly I'd like to you know
expand my brand into potentially more
traditional forms of media uh with that
being said when I first started fulltime
it was a lot of inner conflict cuz I'm
like wasting all my tech skills and
experience and I'm just pointing my
parents this is not stable but I came to
terms with that everything in life has
struggles but it's about what struggle
you're willing to pick and so it's a lot
more stressful than my consulting job
actually but I enjoy it way more has
anybody asked you to start the more
modern gen Z Kaplan they're like yeah
yeah yeah way me you could be the CEO of
a new Kaplan oh my gosh
you know I saw I saw the valuations for
the this this Educational Learning
Company in China it's worth
billions yeah definitely some crazy
comments like that uhhuh your parents
ever be like wh you know uh if you start
that that kaplan's competitor we will
invest in your company but if you
continue to be a YouTuber I cannot say
that I will support you yeah no is there
some Vibes like that I don't know shout
out your par but you know what I I got
to give you Kudos though because you you
your videos are Eng engaging they're gen
Z coded it's going to make it like the
information that's out there more fun to
watch and you put a lot of unique
stories in it right CU you want people
to actually enjoy watching it right
versus picking up a book and it's dry
and you hate it exactly thank you and
yeah I didn't watch study videos myself
so when I watched one just out of fun I
was like oh this is kind of boring you
know like why would we want to watch
this we already study enough in our
textbook so I was like I have a lot to
say but I have more fun ways to say say
it and yeah I I want to uh we'll
probably close it up soon but I do want
you to give some basic advice to a kid
imagine you're talking to a kid who's
from a similar situation in like
Virginia like a non fully Asian area
doesn't have a big strong Community has
parents who expect a lot from them
academically um maybe at times feels
lonely one of the few Asian kids still a
common story nowadays even in 2024 still
happens I guess what is some advice to
them on how to I guess maintain Focus or
you know to live a balanced
life I think a lot of it comes from
seeing other people like you whether
it's in the media um or on YouTube so I
grew up watching some like [ __ ] hega or
like you guys the fun Bros and that made
me feel a lot less alone and more proud
of you know my background and in terms
of um staying focused and keeping an eye
on what you want what your parents want
instead of being pressured to be cool I
think at the end of the day you want to
think about the person you want to be in
10 years because the cool high school
people will not be that cool down the
road like I can promise you that so it's
like would you rather spend 10 years
grinding and trying to find out who you
are and then live a more comfortable
life or would you rather you know be
cool
and be pressured by other people now and
then later be struggling a lot more for
way more years down the road so I think
that's how I think about it what about
advice for a kid this is a funny
exercise advice for a kid who doesn't
want to focus on academics but their
parents are pressuring them but they
just know it's not for them and they
just it's it's it's eating their soul
right now to pretend like they want to
be a doctor or go to Caltech or go to
MIT man I think sooner or later it's
going to blow up because because you
want to live your life as you right so
even if you become a doctor later you're
going to want to quit no matter what if
because you already see it's it's not
you so you know it's hard to confront
your agent parents but it's going to
happen sooner or later so you can try
sooner and if you're not putting your
energy in academics know that you have a
lot of potential doing something else
everyone has their own strength so find
that other thing yet that you can be
really good at and once your parents see
that you're really good at that thing
then they'll probably be excited as long
as you're not wasting your time I think
that's that's what I would recommend no
I think that's really true man like not
everybody is going to be successful in
the way their parents Envision but it's
not necessarily that you're not going to
find your own path and whatever you can
do where you feel like it's not grueling
then you can just keep attacking it and
just ride that path up the mountain even
though if it's not one of the three or
four paths that your parents set in
front of you it's always like I always
compare it to being like a robot vacuum
you know like if the robot vacuum is
really like set on its Mission it
doesn't matter how many things it hits
it's going to find its way and it's
going to end up cleaning the room or
achieving its Mission and it's just like
your parents might may may or may not
understand it depending on like how old
world they are yeah exactly if you do
something you like you're probably going
to be better at it anyway so yeah that's
true all right everybody uh check out
Way's videos down below some of your big
hit videos are what how to get straight
A's why you got rejected from Stanford
yep exactly um there's also you made a
video about about Fair admissions so you
can see her perspective on that because
that was obviously a big issue for a lot
of Asians um but yeah check it out hey
shout out to way if you were in Asia
your face would be like on billboards
everywhere oh man that's how they do it
that's how they do the All-Star tutors
over there you are automatically Chinese
parents favorite YouTuber yeah my dad's
going to watch this and be like text me
hey you know that uh wayy girl is she
single Andrew you
should all right everybody thank you so
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