Woke ideology is infiltrating American society—and even the Church. Eric Metaxas, author of "Letter to the American Church," argues that if Christians don’t stand up to this subversion of our society, then they are complicit in what’s happening. We spoke to Mr. Metaxas at Turning Point’s AmericaFest in Phoenix, Ariz. about how faith without action is not true faith.
- Epoch Original Documentary DVDs: 🔵 Check out 'The Real Story of January 6' documentary DVD here: https://ept.ms/3cxGVEO 🔵 'The Shadow State' documentary takes a deep dive into the environmental, social, and governance (ESG) industry. ORDER DVD: https://ept.ms/3XxcWir 🔵 'The Final War' Documentary DVD: https://bit.ly/41PTIWC
[Music]
Eric Maxis thank you so much for being
here great seeing you I've been all
right I'm a little fatigued but I'll get
over it I can imagine doing a lot of
work lately yeah yeah so Eric let's talk
let's get real the problem of this
country right now is in action I I think
really you have a lot of good people
like a lot of good people in this
country but they're not necessarily like
at the Forefront a lot of people are
sitting in their homes they don't know
what to do I'll put it this way I I mean
I I wrote a book called letter to the
American church every book I write this
my you know 14th book is aimed at
everybody this is the only book I have
ever written ever aimed at those people
who dare to call themselves Christians
and I say to them in this book if you
dare to call yourself a Christian and
you are sitting on the sidelines in this
unbelievable epic not Epic epic
battle you are
guilty uh some people know I wrote a
book about Dietrich bonh harer Bon Hofer
was a German Pastor in the 1930s in
Germany trying to exhort the German
Church to stand up and fight he his
thesis and he was correct was that the
German church was the only institution
with the cultural power to stand against
the wickedness of the
Nazis and of course we know that
ultimately failed that many in the
German Church said not not yet not yet
we just want to be kind of you know uh
we just want to focus on religious stuff
we want to focus on doing church we okay
and Bon Hofer was trying to say them you
don't understand faith without action is
not Faith you have
some
Enlightenment
rationalistic uh hyper Lutheran idea
that faith is just some stuff in my head
and he says no no no no real faith is
lived out if you don't live it out it
essentially proves you have no faith I
mean people who know the Bible know that
the Bible says the New Testament says
faith without works is dead so boner was
trying to say hey German Church you need
to live out your faith now if you live
out your faith now and stand against
this evil we can stand against the Nazis
but they were like well you know not yet
I don't think things are bad enough yet
we know what happened so my book letter
to the American church I'm making the
case that precisely what the German
church was guilty of the American church
is guilty of today this is not hyperbole
I wish I were exaggerating I know that
I'm not I know that the exact same
excuses good Germans gave for inaction
are the same excuses good Americans are
giving they just don't understand that
those excuses are not right they they
they somehow believe that there's a
third path I I don't need to be
political I'm just gonna you know
somehow just you know uh in other words
Christian leaders act like well we're
just going to preach the gospel that's
what Christians say we're just going to
preach the gospel we're not going to
focus on anything that's could be called
political and you think wait a minute
that's what the German pastors were
saying do you see what happened because
of their inaction now you had the same
thing in the United States I mean in the
19th century there were plenty of
pastors and churches saying we don't
want to weigh in on the slavery issue we
just want to talk on it and don't you
understand the only reason you have
faith is to weigh in on these moral
issues is to live out your faith so
letter to the American church is um my
really urgent urgent message to people
that if you want to claim to be a
Christian God requires action of you in
times like this and I don't know can I
announce it that we yeah do it do it
well this exciting this is epic TV we
made a documentary film version of
letter to the American church and the
documentary film version of letter
letter to the American church will be
premiering exclusively on Epic TV
February 8th if you want to see the
trailer you can go to letterto thee
American church.com there's all kinds of
information at letter tothe American
church.com but I'm really excited Josh
that epic TV is partnering with us in
getting this message out because look
let's face it it couldn't be more urgent
this about saving the Nation about
saving America and by the way if America
goes down the entire world goes down so
this is not about America it's not about
the American church is about the world
and so we are we're in that kind of a
battle right now and I want to make the
case and I do make the case in the book
and in the documentary letter to the
American church that people must stand
must fight if you're not doing something
if you're sitting on the sidelines I
want to say very boldly you are part of
the problem if you're sitting on the
fence I want you to know the devil owns
the fence and now you know
that that's the case and so it's it's
very very urgent message as urgent as it
could be well you know and I think among
a lot of churches in America there's
this idea of you know separation of
church and state stay out of political
issues and they're looking for
inclusiveness and acceptance you know
what what do you say to them well I mean
think of the irony number one that is
not biblical so if you're concerned with
having a Biblical view you say what's
the Christian view that's not the
Christian view now what about if you're
an American and you say I believe in
separation church and state the
misunderstanding of separation of church
and state is
not the view of the founders the
founders created the idea of separation
of church and state to protect the
churches from the state just like in
China just like all around the world
where where authoritarian governments
want to crush the church want to
manipulate the church the Nazis wanted
to take over the church and bring Nazi
values into the church so the reason in
America the founders created the wall of
separation in Jefferson's famous letter
between church and state was
specifically to protect the churches
from the state and it is the job of the
churches to live their faith out in
every sphere so so even whether you're
in China or in America your faith is not
real unless you live it outside the
building where you go on Sunday morning
not unless you allow it to leave its you
know
theological uh uh in in a sense this
theological category it's got to go
everywhere you've got to take your
theology into culture into politics if
you care about human rights you've got
to live out your faith in the area of
Human Rights and so this is the kind of
thing serious Christians get this but
many Christians have kind of bought
these lies and it's it's just so ironic
to me that we're living in a time now
where you you have many Christians
saying exactly what the German
Christians were saying and that's what's
so chilling to me CU my mother grew up
in Nazi Germany and I I wrote the Bon
Hofer book and I I I have seen this very
clearly and I I want to wake people up
and say unless Christians repent of
their inaction and their silence unless
they get in the the battle God will will
hold you as guilty this is not like oh I
didn't know this is uh you know God
spoke prophetically through bonhoff to
the German church and they said uh we're
not interested uh we're not we're not
ready to get active yet and by the time
many of them got it and and said we oh
we didn't we didn't know what was going
to happen now we have it was too late
and
that's it's an amazing thing to think
that we have an example from history
that is so similar to where we are now
that evil was Rising they didn't think
it was their job to do anything about it
and so I literally wrote letter to the
American Church to tell people this is
what happened this is what the Bible
says whatever misconception you're under
this is the biblical View and if you're
an American you really have no excuse
because we have religious liberty in
America