At one point in time he was the smartest child in all of China, but now he's grown up
He refuses to work, and he's still living off his parents. What's going on here?
Yeah, at one point we thought you're a child prodigy and now you are an adult oddity. We're talking about Zhang Xingyang, Andrew
He's 28 years old now
But this guy was deemed a Chinese prodigy at the age of 2.5 because he could read
2,000 Chinese characters, that's a lot of characters
And then he went to college at 10 Andrew when he get his PhD at 16, or he became a PhD student
But then when he was 16 Andrew he started to show some cracks
It took him about eight years to get his doctorates and now he's 28. He doesn't want to work
He wants to live off his parents, and he's given a bunch of interviews about it. It's going viral all around Asia right now
Yeah, I guess so we're gonna go through the comment section. We're gonna be breaking down this issue
Should you care if your kid is a child prodigy and what else matters in life?
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Yeah, what happened to Zhang Xingyang man? Let's take a look at him when he is a child here. He's smiling
He like he looks normal. He's a cute kid, and there was such a cute kid. Yo, I'm not gonna lie first of all
I'm not saying that this is true Andrew, but how come it looks like all the math that he studied
It looks like he was doing meth. Yeah, it's dead physically
They don't have meth over there, but I'm just saying what was what's going on?
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't it clearly wasn't substances because that would never get passed in China
But I think he looks quite uncute compared to his kid pictures
I think he grew up
Diet probably spending time in front of the computer probably long hours a lot of stress a lot of pressure
Think about it. You're a child prodigy. You got a lot of pressure on you. He has not lived a normal life, so
Unfortunately, yeah, I mean he probably should have got braces along the way, but anyways guys regardless of his physical features, right?
We can tell you that as a kid
He looked a lot more regular, but anyways, I guess what's your initial reaction David?
I mean, I think it's 2023 the idea of child prodigies or even child sports
Prodigies petering out and not achieving their potential Andrew. This is well documented
It happens all the time with athletics and in academics
But then it's interesting because some people almost go too far the other way where they're like, yeah
Everybody who's a child prodigy fails because they feel so entitled where I'm like, I don't know guys
Elon Musk was also a child prodigy. Yeah, I mean so to me child prodigies Andrew. They're almost like rocket ships
They got this rocket ship upward explosion power that very few people have but the rocket ships
They either explode or do they go to the moon? Yeah. No, and uh, there's this one interview
I was watching of a Chinese professor that was talking about him and he said, you know
He has a strong ability to learn independently
But a poor ability to live independently and I think that living and learning
Especially learning in an academic sense is very different than living on your own, you know, we're talking about real-life practicality
There's a lot of people out there who can live a happier life than him who probably can't number crunch even
110th as good as him, you know, I think that that's a common thing
Like everybody knows that Albert Einstein who was incredibly effective
He was a little bit weird in his IRL life, too
But at what point do you become so have such a lack of ability to operate in IRL?
It almost starts to affect impact your ability to create academically. Yeah, I mean and also
You know at the end of the day and and this is actually a hopeful statement for him
So right now he refuses to work a regular job
He's kind of laying flat as they would say
Yes, they would say in China and then he's living off his parents and he knows he can live off his parents for a long
Time, but I think the key is if he's still motivated and passionate about some things
He still has time to make it worth it. You know what I mean?
Like if Ian I'm not saying he is but what if he does invent something in the next five years and he's living off his
Parents, but that invention is a big deal. Then that's still worth it. We don't know yet
He hasn't fully been spoken for I know a bunch of 26 year olds 28 year olds who kind of live off their parents in
Different ways, you know what I mean?
So it's like you talk about creative directors in New York
No
People who are getting subsidized by their parents and parents have some savings whatever if they're gonna get a house after they're you know
Inherited from the parent whatever it is. I'm just saying I guess he looks hopeless now
But as long as he is motivated to do something
He still has potential to make something happen. He's still got the big-ass brain. Yeah, I mean
His dome is his head's just kept growing when he got older. That's crazy
You filled it up with a lot of knowledge or some fluid or something
I would say that I'd be interested to know what his regimen was
Like was he put on actual IRL projects or all theoretical things?
Because if you look at Elon when I'm talking about Elon was a prodigy
He was making his own games at like eight or nine years old. That's a real-life thing
It wasn't like he was just crushing books, right? Right, right. Um
How much do we want to acknowledge here that his looks may have been a factor?
I don't know. You know what I mean?
Like I think that that's something that a lot of people it's un PC to talk about but sometimes
The way somebody looks it can affect their interactions and then their interactions affect their motivations. That's what I think. I don't know
I'm just throwing it out there. I think he's so in my opinion. He's so smart. He's in that like
Super geek lane where like you talk about like I don't think it looks like Noel Harari
I don't think there's a lot of super smart people
I mean like I don't think like he's around like Hollywood beautiful the Chinese superstars all the time
So I feel like he's not doing the model walk on doing. Yeah, I don't know if it was about that
But clearly, you know, he probably just wants to be happy and maybe he wasn't happy his whole life studying, right?
I think my last quick thought is that uh
The comments that you're gonna see from the Western commenters and the Eastern commenters because I pulled some off Eastern Asian
Comment sites are very different not super different but like have different details because the knowledge base is different
Anyway, let's just get into the comment section
Somebody said I always assumed that 85% of prodigies would turn out the way
Turn out this way because it's impossible to pack enough maturity in so little time and a lot of people had a ton of comments
About like I thought all little child child geniuses failed
Do you think the perception of child geniuses is different from the East and the West?
because it seems like when you say I got a child genius in the West the immediate response from an average person is like
Hey, you might be weird and it might explode on you. Whereas in the East there's like, oh, yeah
I'm so hopeful for the next Einstein or perhaps like Warren Buffett if he is more financial minded
Yeah
I think that when you call a kid a genius early on not just like a very smart kid
but I'm saying when you start using the word genius and
slapping that onto a kid you have to understand like there's a lot of pressure and
Also a lot of like babying that's gonna come along with having that genius kid and like try it
You never know what's gonna happen though, because like that's such a crazy label to put on people
But do you think it's true that the West they do focus more on holistic life skills or social sociality? Yeah, dude, listen
Listen, if you're a genius in America, they want to know if you can help build the next weapon
Okay, that's probably what their essential next rocket weapon Oppenheimer H bomb a bomb whatever it is
They want to know if your brain is going to help them help the country in what they care about
Right, you're saying execute some sort of are you gonna invent? There's that sort of agenda
Are you gonna invent a new medicine for big pharma? I want to know that, you know
That's like kind of the thing in America. Well, maybe I think in China. It's almost like oh
You got a big brain
Praise this kid
Um
Somebody was just like yeah, man
I had a friend who had photographic memory and then he's just in jail because he's got multiple addictions and someone said yeah
It's because he could never forget the bad things either. Yeah, that's really interesting
Somebody said incredible gifts like that sometimes mean that other parts of the brain are lacking because they just got all the game VC points
Got over distributed to those certain points. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think that's true?
Imbalanced IQ is not the same as being motivated hard-working successful or likable
Someone said the gifted sometimes struggle to find purpose
This guy said, um, you know personal growth was missed in the early stages of development because they got pushed
Academically to bring glory to the family because the family feels so cool because there's kid is so smart
But their kid the whole time is being underdeveloped in other things that aren't gonna show up until way later
I mean, I guess it even happens to young kids that are really good at sports, right?
Sometimes they could get babied and they're not developing the coach ability or the other things like that
Somebody said well
Why take on the stress of holding a job and paying bills when you can pass that stress on to your elderly parents and someone?
Said yeah, maybe this guy's actually super smart, but he's just super lazy
So he just actually like pulled off exactly what he wanted to do
Yeah, well, nobody says anything about his ideals, you know, and this guy
Andrea this guy who's coming in he was Chinese and this was on Yahoo comments
He basically blamed it on the society for saying just like man
They just didn't have any development Chinese culture is so unbalanced because China is not a full meritocracy
Nothing really comes from hard work other than bringing honor to your parents
But if your parents still aren't the right type and you know, like from the right families, it doesn't fully matter
So then basically this guy uses an opportunity to criticize the entire structure of the system Wow
But then other people were really blaming it on the parents
So, what do you think it is?
Is it like the parents trying to milk the kid too young or is it really like this in the entire society?
But I was thinking it's probably both. Yeah, it's probably both. Yeah, he's like talking about a Yao Ming
You know interestingly enough Andrew he compared this guy to Yi Jianlian because Yi Jianlian got
Shown as a basketball prodigy, but obviously he never learned the other skills like communication and gameplay IQ at a high level
Basically, this guy said I'm a school psychologist
The biggest predictor of success is not intelligence or completing a college degree
It is mental health too many parents ignore that and instead push good grades and academic accolades
None of that matters if you are not mentally stable
Yeah, no, that's a really good point. And I definitely think that that is overlooked overseas
Somebody said I always say that life is kind of like a video game when you build a character
Literally if you have all the points in intelligence, but very low points in motivation
It is not gonna give you a lot of
Good things in life other than provide you bragging rights at dinner and then somebody just said yeah
This guy got shortchanged in the looks department. He did not get any VC distribute
Yeah, I mean without motivation in life man, a lot of talent doesn't matter
It really doesn't man even in basketball in sports if you and if you have talent at a young age
But you're not staying motivated or with a direction or mentally or emotionally
You can't handle it because maybe he maybe he just wanted to live a regular life
maybe he just wanted a girlfriend and maybe he just wanted a
Maybe he's watching all these douyin like Xiao Hongshu videos and he's like wow
Like look at the life that these right kids are like why Henry? He's watching like a higher brother
Yeah, like why work my work. I'll be a rapper like Robin gone
You know smoke
Station your PlayStation will never break up with me. Yeah
That's crazy, I mean it's true man, it's dude life is so complicated
There's so many things everybody's like trying to you know, maybe he felt like y'all nobody ever asked me
I just wanted a baddie and to hit the club and pop bottles with models and nobody ever asked me what I want
They just wanted me to calculate this equation. So Andrew these are comments from the East this guy made a really really good
insight into the Chinese
Family where he was saying his parents probably told him when he was young that they were very rich and they gave him some sort
distorted sense of purpose and distorted sense of entitlement as
Evidenced by the fact that he was demanding a 1 million dollar flat to live in Beijing just to go finish his PhD
So basically he was saying that it's interesting because sometimes in the West
Parents might lie to their kids and or about how much how little money they have to give the kid motivation
But in China because it's a descendant of an imperial society. That's very like
Aristocratic centric the parents might lie to the kid about how rich they are
How weird is that I mean that is I don't want to say it's a hundred out of a hundred
But it is true that sometimes Asian families try to hide from the child their financial situation. Yeah, that's true
But I think it's weird that the kids want to stay motivated in China if they feel rich
But here kids stay more motivated if they feel poor
No, it just goes to show you how different the motherboard is if somebody said yeah, this is a strawberry generation
They are so easily bruised like a strawberry
That's a funny one somebody said yeah reincarnated happy Buddha just follow his life to gain enlightenment is it maybe he just found Buddha
Well, he just desires nothing. So he wants nothing. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know about eating the rotten vegetables though
Somebody said the world doesn't owe him a living neither do his parents owe him. He owes society a
Responsibility and I think actually this is what he's rebelling against. You know what I'm saying? Because you take a guy
I don't know. I mean he was cute when he was a kid
But let's just say he was like not consider good-looking by the time he's 18, right?
And he's got this crazy gigantic brain on him. Everybody's looking at him like yeah, what are you gonna invent for us?
What algorithms are you going to solve at least the basis of this fundamental theory?
So somebody else can go build something in industry. Yeah progress the society and he's like
Nobody is asking me what I want. Yeah, and that's I think that's comes as a that's a short
That's a downside of like not develop being a personality that people want to cheer for
I think if you're a really smart person and people want to cheer for you you the world is at your fingertips
You can rise up people will follow you. You'll feel motivated but like this guy, you know
His parents probably didn't care if he was likable because they were like, ah, it's just so smart
But then if he's not likable then people don't like care about his life, you know
So, yeah, it's crazy it looks like he used to look like Shanghai poppy when he was young
It could seem like that. He
Maybe was feeling used by society almost like hey, you have this brain. So help us out
It's almost like he felt like and there may be evidence to support it
The society was squeezing his brain for the juice, but who cares about the whole?
Like he's like, I'm not just a brain like quit squeezing my brain
Yeah, like like he had a duty to
forego his
adolescence to not have fun when he was younger to not release dopamine to not live a regular life and his
obligation and duty
Was to do something great in academic and it's also already like, you know that dou shu run culture in China
Which is a like a scholarly thing. It's existed for longer than anywhere else on earth. It's not a oxytocin
Yeah, I mean releasing lane to be you know, you used to have to be a eunuch this guy's from a fourth tier city
I'd want to talk to his friends
I mean
I think that to find out more you'd have to talk to his friends any
Girls or people that he had relationships with kind of see how do you think it's unfair that somebody looks at this guy?
Chong and it's like you failed society you failed China
But then if you're like a rich f-boy or f-girl of a like a very wealthy family and you're not smart
Nobody ever tells you yeah
You have a responsibility with all the wealth you inherited because those a lot of those kids just go in and have fun
Yeah, yeah
but then you're like a poor kid with a huge brain and they're like everybody's like look at it you're already up not as I
Already not gonna be tight. You're looking at a life of just brain crunching for the rest of your life and everybody's like you have a
responsibility
Yeah, I always thought that was that is messed up. I think it is
I think I think people look at smart people more as tools that they should do something for me because that's why you're smart
Versus like if you're even just good-looking and rich
What is anybody gonna tell you no, you know what everybody looks at you and goes
I'd do the same thing if I was in your situation. You look like you're releasing a lot of dope for me
It's unfair man. You gotta treat smart kids as regular people to listen guys. Life is made up of a lot of parts, man
I I think you got the zone you're born into and it's just like Hunger Games
Everybody's born into a different zone. Then you got base camp training camp, right?
How did you perform in training camp then did you you get shot off out?
You know out of this cannon onto the mountain, right and then you get a bicycle
but not everybody got the same bicycle and some people land with a
Squad of bicycles like Lance Armstrong other people are on a solo bicycle
And then once you hit the trail up the mountain, you got to make reads on which path you want to ride
You can't you got one bike one body one soul and you can't ride all the paths up the mountain
So you got to deviate from the one you're born into or didn't maybe you got shot into that one
It just makes more sense with the natural inertia, I'm just gonna ride up maybe you get distracted by a hot spring
Maybe you are mission imperative is to reach the peak or maybe it's to go whatever did you save other people?
You know I'm saying in the crazy thing about life Andrew is while you're on this crazy
Amalgamation of different video games you still have to have a good time
And maybe this guy just figured like I'm opting out at this point, right? Yeah
So anyway guys, let us know what you think of this story in the comment section below
It's going viral all around Asia a little bit in the West
But mostly in Asia because they they just care about really big academic brains with big processors
I think more over there plus this guy's Asian. Let us know what you think in the comment section below
I think a lot of valid points on all sides until next time with a hot pot boys. We out peace