@LauraLoomered Before And After Her #Twitter Ban

[Music] this is the Andre Segovia show greetings everyone and welcome to the undresser govia show for those of you that are new around these parts I am your host Andreas Segovia broker out here in the people's Democratic Republic of California on this podcast I deal with business Tech and California issues and my guest today is no stranger to Tech issues she is the author of the book lumard how I became the most banned woman in the world Laura Loomer welcome to the undressing yoga show great to have you on thanks for having me I had a pull up of my audience before uh I made it a little public that I was having you on the program over 80 percent of respondents have said they never heard of Laura Loomer which is sad but we'll find out why so for those who do not know you can you please let them know who you are and what you do yeah well thanks so much for having me on and I'm Laura Loomer um I'm an investigative journalist and activist and I also happen to be the most banned woman in the world um I've been banned on all of the social media sites and only recently right thanks to Elon Musk was I given my Twitter account back uh but um uh you know as as you said I'm the author of the book Lou murdered how I became the most banned woman in the world uh and um you know after I found myself uh banned on all these different social media sites for doing my investigative journalism I uh decided to start pursuing more free speech activism and I started filing litigation against the big Tech social media Giants fighting for uh Free Speech rights and the civil rights of people who are being de-platformed and silenced and uh eventually it inspired me to also run for Congress and so I ran for congress as an America First Republican in Florida in 2020 and then also again in 2022. and some people might think well she's banned from social media um and for people that might hear about us they're like oh they probably deserved it or whatever and I think people are a little misguided uh because they don't they don't understand the ramifications of what that actually means they hear cancel culture they hear fact checks but they don't really know what all that stuff actually entails they're just it's like a whatever thing and I think it just serves something that happened with your Twitter I want to bring up a little later I'll we have time for that but something that people don't understand you and I are probably a decade apart in age I'm not going to ask for yours by the way but uh we're about a decade apart and in the time frame of that Tech that was developed I could say that you grew up more in that Tech space because it was part of your of growing up you you were basically grown up with it versus me seeing the stuff be born and then adopting it to my life yeah absolutely so for someone that became an investigative journalist where did you store almost everything you had so I'm I'm we really grew up in the age of the internet and so um My Generation uh has been accustomed right to utilizing the internet for all aspects of their lives and uh you know as an investigative journalist you utilize social media in order to push your information out to push your content out and to push your stories out and so uh prior to being banned everywhere of course I utilized my um social media Platforms in which I had you know a lot of followers like millions of followers across all the platforms before I was banned um to push out this information and uh when you are uh witnessing right a decrease in television news broadcast news and print news and uh you know kind of the more popular Trend in uh news and journalism today is maybe Independent Media and people utilizing social media to push that information out it puts you at an extreme disadvantage uh when you're you know banned it also puts you at an extreme disadvantage when you're a candidate for office and your band because we see how social media is used to reach voters and to convey messages and to communicate with and you know whether it be Barack Obama or Donald Trump we saw this revolution in our own political system um you know on the Democrat side and the Republican side with the use of social media insights like Twitter and Facebook in campaigning and so it's an invaluable tool and when one individual or one candidate is denied access to those sites simply because of their political affiliation uh like I was right the first D platformed band candidate in the United States history which means I was the first candidate to ever run for office and be denied access to social media uh it puts you at a huge disadvantage because it is a legal election interference yes it definitely is um and for some people like well I'm never going to run for office or anything like that look when I grew up I still remember going to University and someone coming up to me and says hey would you would you test Microsoft OneNote hey Facebook is arriving um they're opening up slots for this University do you want to try it out that's different than someone that grew up on it and it's like I hit I didn't want Facebook I didn't use Facebook but our classes for our studies and study groups and all that um they created a Facebook account for me that's how I ended up getting a Facebook account not because I did it but because it was done for for me among my um the team circles for our classes it before that was Myspace friends all this other stuff and it's like whatever I didn't feel like I needed to be a part of it I didn't care and I had Facebook and I never used it it's part of a daily communication and and some of the younger crowd says that stuff's boring I moved on to the other things not knowing that you're on Instagram you're thinking on Facebook you're on WhatsApp okay on Facebook which is now meta and all these different things so these guys are gobbling up all these other places like I'm not on Facebook because it's not cool no but you're there so when you're banned safe from Facebook which then EXO facto means you're also banned from Instagram um possibly WhatsApp if you're banned from all this you're banned to that access and some people think like well what does it matter you're socializing you just hit the note right on the head being able to reach other people especially if you have a not just a political candidacy but business um whether you're providing a good or a service now you can't reach that clientele and despite the fact that how many people might feel I don't want to be on Facebook yeah but where's your clientele they're on Facebook it and that's also happens for Twitter you're not on Twitter where is the conversation happening where do you where's the people you want to reach well they're on Twitter and if you can't be there then how can you reach them um and that's not also everything it so happens that because you grew up on that and this is something you highlight in your book where a lot of your stuff was on these Tech platforms your life was digital and I'm sure many people including from your age group and younger all their lives are digital and it's like you lose access to that I've had it where I left my wallet at a mall once and I didn't panic I left my phone once and I panicked the difference being that hey that's my life there yeah but someone else could take your identity your money and all that yeah but my life is on the phone yeah all your money can be on your phone right and so it's not like just losing your ID or your you know your bank card and you call and you get it deactivated a lot of people have their bank cards now stored in their phone right A lot of people have their money on their phone and if you if you lose your phone you're losing everything in the sense that there's an app for everything and we have put all of our Lives onto this this device right and so um I don't think that you know people who grew up in a different age like an analog age right um like our parents are grandparents uh they didn't grow up with social media or the internet so for them it may sound melodramatic but when you're um entire livelihood originates from you being able to you you know utilize the internet or uh you went to school and you paid for a degree in the field of Journalism like I did and you're not able to utilize it unless you're able to distribute your content uh you start to see that these are not just free speech issues they become civil rights issues when you know five billionaires in Silicon Valley are deciding who gets access and who doesn't get access right to these sites uh you're you're trying to predestine somebody's future and um the potential that they are able to express in a digital in a digital world in a digital uh Public Square which we find ourselves living in today yeah and there's a couple of other tech companies that we didn't mention that you're also banned from but it it extends to that but before that I don't want to miss this thing about Twitter because you prove something to me that I suspected from the very get-go I left Facebook a couple years ago I left Twitter last year I burned every bridge that I made I was a movie critic I covered a lot of the same things you did but more localized here in California um I've been doing this since 2003 as a newsletter before I'm walking to a Blog before it became a podcast before it just became literally microblogging on Twitter it became like my go-to tool uh but then I just hated what Twitter was doing I ended up leaving Twitter and I rebranded the show and brought this back four years ago but in more of a business and and helping people be smarter worked on that harder through Tech but every time I brought that up I always ran into this issue where it's like I gotta talk about some things people will consider political but it's also because hey I gotta warn you I've warned years ago about social credit system style stuff and things like that and then when they hear that oh Alex Jones gets banned or Laura Boomer gets banned for anybody it's in the nose like oh yeah they um yeah they probably deserved it and all that's like well here's the thing that are you either whether you like a person or not it's not the issue it's is it constitutional and it was not constitutional and it wasn't a thing that was a violation in terms of services it was just like we don't like you and that's and if we allow that kind of power to companies that want our so-called platforms not Publishers then we're all at risk and I think people more people have woken up to that than not but more people still need to know because they're being gas-lipped and you're a prime example of that because uh very few people who have heard about people being banned from like Airbnb or in ubereats or Lyft yeah and you're are you also banned from Airbnb yeah so I found myself banned from Airbnb Uber Lyft ubereats PayPal GoFundMe Instagram Facebook Twitter uh clubhouse you name it right I mean even chase bank one shut down my online access to my bank account so um you know I I've been banned in incredible ways I've even been banned from being able to own or possess a firearm by the FBI simply because I confronted and exposed James Comey the former FBI director in one of my investigations so um you know we see that they like to Target people and Elon Musk now who now owns Twitter um has been confirming a lot of this and we've been gaslit I think that's the perfect word that you used right we have been gaslit by the Elites in the media and politicians into thinking that we're conspiracy theorists right there's something wrong with us and then we're making this up and that we're just uh making things up to justify our own narrative but no Elon Musk who purchased Twitter described Twitter as both a social media site and also a crime scene and he has been transparent and he is you know releasing this information in the form of various Twitter files to expose to people the truth of what's been happening at these companies and it turns out the conspiracy theorists were right all along yeah you know I hate using that I use a a gif GIF whatever people want to call it um from Jurassic Park where Ian Malcolm says boy I hate being right all the time that's that's kind of how I felt but right in terms of proving something that happened by you being restored by Twitter it proves something to me but why I decided to leave on Facebook I decided to leave from Twitter because like hey I'm taking my data with me because if you ban me I don't know you're gonna keep the data when were you banned from Twitter so I was permanently banned from Twitter in November of 2018 and then in in November of um 2017 I had been unverified on Twitter so you know my my the censorship of my Twitter account was a multi-year process because it really began to be censored in 2016 but then I was fully banned permanently in 2018 November 21st so yeah I was being personally calling ilhan Omar anti-jewish and exposing the fact that she was pro-sharia I had been exposing her extensively while she was running for Congress before before she was elected in 2018. and um my investigations exposed how she married her brother and how she has all these ties to terrorist organizations and um you know some of her uh previous ties to um anti-semitic organizations and uh Twitter banned me for hate speech for simply criticizing an elected official and actually reporting the truth and now years later turns out everything that I said uh was 100 true and um you know I asked myself like how many other people have been silenced or banned or shut down for simply reporting things that turned out to be 100 true yeah but it all it also highlights one thing though because yes you were a centered and throttle between 2006 uh 2016 and 2018 when you were permanently banned permanently banned they held on for your data for at least four years when you came back on it's like oh look I got my keys to my stuff again yeah and and that's the thing that I expected that if people were banned from Facebook and everything else hey they kept the data it's like hey it's ours now you know and they can't and I thought that I was never gonna get it back so when Elon Musk said that they were gonna reinstate the accounts of people and that you were going to get everything back I mean they must be collecting people's data just like you said and it's not like they delete your account and they delete your data they're holding on to it and so what are they doing with that data right and that opens up to a whole other can of worms with privacy issues and you know Data Mining and this is exactly what these companies are guilty of doing so um I would say that Tech big Tech tyranny is the biggest threat facing our country and the entire world today and when you look at all the chaos in the world right now um whether it's the economy or immigration or you know voter fraud or you know um people dying from coveted vaccines all of it is traced directly back to Big Tech censorship because we're in these positions because the elites censored us from getting information out that could have actually prevented things from happening right so you're seeing a lot of people drop dead from the vaccine you're seeing people have health issues right um you you said you talked about this um well it's an issue when you when you talk about issues locally in California the mandates right and the lockdowns and how people were being censored for pointing out that Gavin Newsom was walking around and going to Posh restaurants and you know while everybody was being friends with lockdown orders and told that they couldn't go out to eat and that their businesses had to be closed he was having dinner at five-star restaurants and renting the place out so and when you post those videos you would get banned so there's nothing illegal about posting that information but because it's inconvenient to The Narrative of the elites and the people who are pushing this new world order which they're using censorship as the tool to get people on board right they ban you they ban you if you're a political dissenter and so that's why censorship is so dangerous and that's why you know as a journalist and as somebody who's been banned and de-platformed um even now that I have my Twitter back you know I'm still advocating for people and fighting for free speech because uh the the conversation about Twitter is very surface level it's not just Twitter as we just pointed out it's Banks okay it's food delivery apps it's Rideshare apps it's payment processors um uh Airbnb right so all types of different apps and services are de-platforming people and silencing people simply because of their viewpoints and they're constitutionally protected speech and um you know when we talk about censorship a lot of times people only talk about in relation to Facebook and Twitter or Instagram and they forget about all these other elements yeah and it becomes a social credit system when you even consider LinkedIn which is owned by Microsoft because if you're say you were banned from Microsoft guess what that means you're banned from someone like me that relies on on one drive for a lot of the different things that I do I have terabytes of data in the cloud and the cloud literally means someone else's computer and in this case the tech space through their data Farms are the ones that are storing all of your data uh and then you can go to the macroscopic level when we talk about metadata a bunch of zeros and ones that's what people don't know that it can it goes to the basics of that and we've been tracked long before the smartphone even existed and we can also point to the metadata that's a passing reference to 2000 mules I wish they did a little better job in explaining it but it's pretty good stuff now with all that that's been said with respects to you've been banned from all this uh you and I got connected uh sometime over the summer when I was really diving into your book and I sent the picture um via getter highlighting some text that you wrote in your book where you said that big Tech tried to erase you and people would have people forget you more than 80 of my audience who knows project Veritas which you failed to mention by the way that you work with project Veritas and well there's so much to talk about you know like in in the time span of an interview but exactly you know when I say I'm a journalist I got my career started working with project Veritas doing undercover journalism and then I started my own um my own um media company and so um you know I I wasn't banned while working right while working for project Veritas I was banned when I started my own Media company but when I was working for project Veritas as an undercover journalist but then also as a communications director I had access to James O'Keefe's social media I ran his social media and his um the project Veritas social media accounts and I will tell you that um we were censored during the 2016 election when we were releasing our uh voter fraud series exposing um Hillary Clinton's voter fraud activities and so um this was something that was happening um you know even during the 2015-2016 presidential race and I got to witness it firsthand and it went years without being addressed I mean think about that 2015 to 2020 five years okay and no one did anything about it and now finally in 2022 someone's actually you know they're finally starting to talk about it and when I say nobody did anything obviously people like myself and other Grassroots activists and you know some journalists uh did something about it I certainly filed numerous lawsuits against big Tech over the years uh but when I say nobody I'm talking about our politicians did not do anything to address this issue yeah and uh because we're also short on time there's there's two things that I want to get out of the way before picking up on what you just said um I got reacquainted with you because I remember you from the project Veritas days that's how I got to to know you the whole lumored thing and when you confronted Jack Dorsey not too long ago 18 months ago or so I'm like she still got it and or for those of you watching um in more recent time um some even argue that Kevin McCarthy is getting the emergency so and it's like you still got it and and the thing is that there was a period in time uh because I took that picture of that text when I was reading it I sent it to you because like big Tech almost made me forget about you but leading up to the 2020 election is when I started uh testing out other social media platforms I ended up on parlor uh and when parlor was taken down I ended up finding Gap and on Gap I found you like holy smokes I I thought she was gone and then get it popped up and that's what they do they try to make people a race you and now that I'm back on Twitter you know people who didn't get on gab or parlor true social or telegram they're like oh my God forgot about you where have you been these last four years right and they they literally forget you and that's the whole role of censorship and it's scary because you know when you're in this Millennial age group and maybe you know for people who are older listening they maybe they don't relate to this so much because times were different but in this day and age you know you don't really always remember I mean sometimes you remember your friend's birthday or your family's birthday I certainly you know do but if you people generally see like when it's someone's birthday because they get a Facebook notification or they see something on their Instagram or something pops up when you are banned people don't get any updates from you they don't get to see what you're doing they don't get life updates from you you know and then eventually you just start to come you become a distant memory in their mind and that's that's pretty awful because it's a very isolating feeling and so you know not only is censorship a tool to silence people and oppress them and you know to quell political dissent but it's also a way to isolate people and to make people feel alone yeah and you do open up about that in your book which is what I'm going to tie into but before I lose the point um this thought was that when I found out you wrote a book after connecting with you I'm like oh look she wrote a book and I saw that on parlor that's how I think we first connected on parlor before we connected on on the others but uh you wrote an entire chapter exclusively dedicated to the shooting of uh what happened in Las Vegas that's very near and dear to me because my sister-in-law was supposed to be there and cancel at the last minute okay you know like holy smokes imagine you had gone she is the mother of six children now so my family would have been without all those other kids so when you wrote about that I and I picked up your book I read your book kind of like a Christopher Nolan movie where I was kind of jumping around the book because I wanted to get to that chapter but I was just so like engrossed in the first couple of chapters by the way James O'Keefe wrote the forward so that's really cool and you call him a brother which I think is beautiful well when I finally got to that um to that chapter I'm like you were the one that was showing the elevator things because I had forgotten yeah and that's the thing a lot of people forget right because when they erase all of your journalism people forget you know what you did and now like I'll have people sometimes make really nasty remarks to me like oh what have you done right like when I'm criticizing politicians or exposing something and they'll say oh it's easy for you to be a keyboard Warrior and that when I show them or tell them they have no idea because of the censorship so uh it really creates a an information blackout and it's scary to think how your entire resume can be deleted and wiped from the internet when you would Google my name it wouldn't show any of the stuff that I that I had done or any of the work I did because Google of course when my Wikipedia page they just lied about me and accused me of things that I never did while completely erasing right all evidence of my videos and my investigations online so um it was pretty scary and yeah that's what's happening in our in our world today where um they can in the click of a button with the click of a button or an algorithm they can make you disappear yeah delete your existence and it is to that that I uh folks for those of you listening on the audio or tuning in on one of the video platforms any references and all links to Laura Loomer will be available in the show is accompany this episode at www.cover.com um Laura recently had an epic Twitter space I believe that was on crypto lawyers and I'll be leaving a link to that it was a what a five hour thing but there was like five hours yeah but the last hour contains discussions about the Las Vegas shooting unfortunately I think the best in-depth discussion was I think it was an off the cuff um live stream you ended up doing with uh I think is Dalton uh clock filter around background Thanksgiving or so around about the things about the Las Vegas shooting yeah yeah it was like an hour and a half cozy live uh TV thing but unfortunately the replays only last for a few days and afterwards it's gone that's where I wish was stored because I was just like lost in the end then they were they were showing some of your old clips of when you took care of that business before you came back on Twitter by the way um so I'll be leaving links to at least the the Twitter space for people uh look up more into this but that's why I picked up your book and I ended up uh when I read through your book um recently was making the rounds on Twitter because of of Capitol Hill and all this um there was a discussion about like oh yeah the time when uh a republican Auctioneer was shutting down uh Laura Loomer who was speaking at one of these uh um Tech hearings yeah now the back story behind that was what you talk about what happened afterwards because if I'm not mistaken that's the moment where you go to the bathroom and fell alone is it wasn't that the moment yeah and you know you're you're talking about the tech hearing where Jack Dorsey was was asked to testify in Congress about censorship and I stood up and confronted him during the hearing and Republicans shouted me down and asked for the police to escort me out even though I was calling Jack Dorsey out for lying to Congress about censoring conservatives right so uh the Republican party has been a problem when it comes to censorship they love blaming the Democrats and I'll tell you as a Republican and as the most man woman in the world and as somebody who ran for office with no social media um I asked the Republican party for help and they did nothing because they're in on it right they also want dissent to be quelled they don't want an America first movement they want to have the uniparty establishment Rhino leadership controlling everything and so um you know it was that moment that I realized like how big of an issue this was and how much of an uphill battle it was going to be to defeat you know all the censorship because it's not just leftists right it's not just one-sided both sides are benefiting from the censorship both sides are implicit in the censorship and the election interference with big Tech yeah and that's that's absolutely awful but and that's something that I didn't expect to get from the book um I thought it was going to be over like just an overview of some of the things that uh that you went through but no this is getting to know Laura Loom of the person and that's what I found that's my biggest takeaway from the book but it was that moment um as someone that's also felt alone despite being surrounded by love um I'm a suicide Survivor five times felt I'm still here and yeah I I felt I felt you and how they tried to get you to Epstein yourself and that was not uh um but uh that's what they wanted it to get out of you and I'm glad that you that you didn't we need you you're you're a powerful voice and they can't they can only slow you down but they can't stop you and that's why I I wanted to reach out to talk to you unfortunately we don't have as much time and because you got to get going back to work well come on again the only reason why it's short tonight is because um when I booked the interview I wasn't planning on coming on an impromptu trip to Washington DC so I had booked my travel yesterday so it was kind of a spur of the moment thing to come out here when I was watching this speaker vote and you know decided that I needed to come out and hold the establishment accountable and confront people who are voting for McCarthy for speaker because he cannot be speaker and uh but um I'm definitely gonna come back on because they adjourned today I was thinking that I was going to be done for the night and be able to just you know do this podcast and talk to you for however long but you know these Republicans can't seem to realize that we the people are over Kevin McCarthy and we don't want Kevin McCarthy as our speakers so um there's a lot of content and you know videos that I'm going to be filming here confronting politicians that I can share with you and I I definitely want to come on again because um I agree with you know what you're saying and it's these are important conversations yeah and I'd love to have you back on that's why I purposely when I first reached out to you purposely uh this is the first time I introducing this segment by the way because you gotta get going here I a rapid fire section of questions of yes or no or just one-worded answers yeah because like I knew this would happen I'm like no anything can happen I got to be prepared for anything but we will but we will do another one maybe next week or so we can even just do a follow-up one or the week after you tell me it's like hey we're going through the clips because I'm out here confront all these politicians and we can go through them all because I definitely want to yes because that AOC thing was gold that was that was so beautiful I I I laughed too hard thank you for clipping out just that moment like that's funny but hey if if you uh if if they made a biopic about Laura Loomer who will play you in a movie wow I don't know honestly you know I don't really watch a lot of movies so I don't know I mean I'm not sure who would be able to film me who do you think should who do you think should do it I I asked myself the same question maybe Angela Huston even though she's a hardcore leftist but back in her Heyday because uh you you almost did pull off the Morticia look from her from way back I'm like holy smokes dark hair I have some highlights like some red in my hair now too but yeah yes I did notice they're like wait did you get those uh while you were on vacation was it Costa Rica but I don't remember no I just did this re I had them done actually before I left and then um you know red is kind of one of those colors that takes a lot of Maintenance so when I I was in the ocean a lot and then the salt water kind of it's hard on the highlights but now it's just a little bit of red just like a black well yeah I think they compliment you well um well if with Jack Dorsey uh this whole I want to see a film about Laura versus Jack Dorsey but how could that not be a rom-com yeah you know you know about when I handcuffed myself to Twitter and he was like you know I respect that I like Laura lemur's protest like it was kind of punk rock and it was funny because they asked him about it and how you know he felt about me doing what I did and you know but look I think uh I think that we're not going to heal as a country we're not going to heal as a world unless people who committed these crimes are you know faced with Justice so we need Justice especially for the victims of censorship and just think of how much harm has been carried out in our world over these last few years especially with the rise of you know the covet lockdowns due to censorship and so you know just think of everything that's happening in the news cycle right now and how it's impacted by censorship and I think that uh Jack Dorsey as I said to his face on multiple occasions he's guilty of election interference he's guilty of human rights violations and he needs to be held accountable yeah well it's along those lines I ask you this question what's the biggest threat to democracy is it a big Tech communism the Elites in each party or pineapple on pizza [Laughter] I would say that it's big Tech tyranny because big Tech tyranny is a form of Communism all right and this question because I need the answer to this would you rather be stuck in an elevator with an elevator with Rashida Talib uh Alejandro Cortez uh or get a lecture oh it's sorry I mixed I mixed these up Would You Rather Go karaoke with ilhan Omar um or would you rather be stuck in an elevator with Alejandro Castro Cortez get a lecture from Rashida Talib or handcuff yourself inside a shark tank what was the third one get a lecture what I'll get a lecture from Rashida Talib an yeah because she hates me so much so maybe if we would be forced to sit there and do something that's supposed to be fun yeah and uh definitely does not like me yeah and well it says you're gonna be live streaming soon what video games are going to be live streaming well I don't I don't play video games per se but I have a cookie Channel now and I'm just going to be streaming and uh yeah doing some commentary and maybe streaming some videos maybe I should start playing though right right uh last question recommendations like what should I used to play a lot when I was a kid I used to love my Nintendo when I was a kid I was addicted to my Nintendo this never gets old and it's pocketable now so you could take it everywhere last question I'm Gonna Leave You before we sign off to everybody else what's better satire the onion The Babylon b or CNN [Laughter] I like Babylon me a lot um but yeah I mean I don't know the The Babylon B actually turns out to be real news because the satire uh event eventually ends up turning into reality and the Babylon B has seen this that a lot of their stories end up churning out to be a real story so um I would say that CNN is just full-blown fake news it's not even satire but um but I I really like I like Babylon B stories yeah all right so that's a tie between CNN and Babylon B with Babylon B being more trustworthy Laura lumer where can people find you uh online nowadays now that you're back on Twitter too well I'm on social and uh let's see where else and uh getter at Laura Loomer and then I'm on Twitter now again thanks to Elon Musk at Laura Bloomer um and then I'm on telegram at Loom root official and then I have my own website lumard l-o-o-m-e-r-e-d.com and then as you uh pointed out in the beginning you people can also buy order my book rumored how I became the most banned woman in the world and I have signed copies available on my website loomered.com all links which will be available at the Sean of the company's episode at www.com don't hang up yet but we're sending off everybody else thank you very much for joining me Laura I'd love to have you on you say when and I'll make it happen sounds good thank you