Rockstar or Groomer: Elvis Stress Dilemma? | Priscilla Movie Review

Priscilla Presley was not a star she was a person who was married to a star and because of that she has a certain amount of status but because he was the king of rock and roll she was not the queen of rock and roll why do you think that this movie was made I think it was nothing but self-indulgent crap I don't know why this movie was made it it has no it didn't Advance anybody's understanding of anything they didn't even mention Lisa Marie they like all of a sudden there was a baby in the movie they never even said the name didn't think about that at all and that's and this is supposed to be a woman's movie [Music] Welcome to the Real generation gap my name is Shane schmeer and I'm Fred satuli today we are reviewing Priscilla before we dive into the movie Priscilla please give us a follow a subscribe uh give us a like if you can and give us a comment on what you guys think we should review in the future and if you've already seen this movie what do you think of this movie but let's get right into into this review now Fred what do you think about this movie I I didn't like this movie didn't like it I didn't like it at all it had so little substance they had a baby and they never told you the name of the baby I'm like Lisa Marie Lisa Marie like I know more than you that's very true I didn't think about that yeah like it's like who's who made this moveie you're telling me she wrote a book and she didn't mention her baby's name interesting didn't even think about that I prior to seeing this I was a pretty big fan I had I I am as well a big Elvis phase in like high school and I really liked Elvis and uh this movie yet you didn't know what a high roll was and I just thought that was the funniest thing never heard of that no yeah this is when you have a collar that's like got like 5 in collar stays like your collars are like this that's a high roll all the greasers when I went to high school there were guys with like a 5in high roll and cuff links yeah did anybody in your high school wear cufflinks no we didn't wear we had we had yeah color coordinated socks that match the shirt you know yeah anyway that was then yeah that was then so back back to the movie back but just like for an Elvis fan I mean he had those giant collars yeah I I know what you're talking about I just didn't know what it was called yeah that's a high roll yeah so being a fan of him prior to this I kind of was hurt a little bit they made him seem like like for lack of a better word like a groomer did I know like like I know back in the day they used to date younger but I know I don't know you were you were around in this era is wasn't that kind of a big gap or was it not as big okay A a grooming yeah is a new thing it's a new term I mean it's a new term I guess but it's it's a new term yeah so maybe he was the original groomer yeah no not by any means Elvis Presley was a very simple young man from a very rural background yeah he loved his mother yeah yeah he he envisioned a very simple life mhm he respected the the country he went into the service as he was asked to do you know he was compelled to do and he loved his mother and father and all that and he wanted to have very much a a virgin wife like he wanted to have a girl that was a young girl but Jerry Lee Lewis and Mar's cousins were like 13 years old yeah that's very weird yeah for you now for you now but in the rural South people matured quickly these Farm boys they were young men at a very early age they were treated like a young man you're 10-year-old boy you didn't cry MH there was no you know your father would whack you yeah if that and then the mother would tell you thanks for whacking them you know when your father comes home he's going to whack you cuz you cried yeah so I I you know at a certain age I was told not to say mommy anymore M right was about 5 years old my dad said look look you're a young man now you Mom Mother mommy is a baby talk M so this is how this guy grew up now when he when he was up and coming they had Soul music and gospel music in the church they didn't have rock and roll yet rock and roll was launched just like me in 1955 so here's a guy who he's doing his thing his way it's mostly country he's dancing like wild he's gyrating he's a star if he was now if he came now he would be just as big a star now as he was then he just had that magnetic appeal so he explodes into a scene where there's millions of fans they want to make movies with him they want to do all kind of things this kind of like the first time that's almost ever happened he's the king of rock and roll yeah he you know so he still wants a compartmentalized life in Memphis he he want that's that's his vision of success yeah he wants the devoted girl he wants to have you know a girl that his mother can be proud of that kind of thing he doesn't want an Margaret you know he can have an Margaret all day he's got a 100 an Margarets waiting lined up you know he doesn't even know their names but he's got to live a double life because in the public he has to be the star but he knows deep in his heart that he's just a country boy yeah and he's just singing his songs and he's dancing naturally and he's playing the guitar naturally all of his original stuff and you know with the original recording company and everything was that was all very rural yeah that wasn't like a big New York City production and one of the things I loved about him was he was loyal to his band yeah that same drummer to the day he died cool yeah that's respectable for sure yeah and he wasn't having it he you know RCA we want to make a big production he's like you know yeah now These Guys these are my guys yeah but still like the 10 years apart 25 and 15 that wasn't weird not to them yeah not to them and in those in those day in those days there were big gaps a young girl would marry a guy 20 years older because they had power they had you know land or whatever it was and it was a secure life for them they knew that they were going to be secure there wasn't security like now life was tenuous you died people you know they got a they got the pneumonia they died so you when you had uh a secure man in your community and he he found somebody attractive and he decided he's going to devote thems and what it was very very common that kind of thing this for them this was not unusual at all and he showed phenomenal strength of character because he asked a permission from the parents he comped that her father the milit Harry man said you're not sending a car for my daughter she's not a Pana you come yourself if you because he he had people working for him people are jumping right was you want to see her you come you want to there's going to be a chaperon you're going to be responsible we have people watching you yeah right and he was completely compliant and the way they portrayed it in the movie she was like hotter than him like she was like come on let's you know let's get naked or something he's like no no no you're you're not in that compartment sleeping in the same bed but they didn't do anything with fully in the pajamas you know we're doing this right this is sacred to me that's what he said in the movie which is I don't know I don't know how you could be a parent and let your daughter spend the night somewhere think something wasn't going to happen that's it's inconceivable now yeah you know with the moralism now but this really did happen M and he he really did bring her up and he really did send her to school and say you have to do good in school or we can't be together your father has an expectation here and we have to honor him he didn't say I'm Elvis I'm the king the hell with you drop debt all of an attorney you be you you know no he was a gentleman the whole entire time and you think the whole time you don't that's that's part of the reason I used the the phrase groomer cuz I think there was a little bit of manipulation on her well the word especially applies because once they did get together he made her into the girl that he wanted her to be yeah and he told her this like I want you to wear black black makeup on the eyes I want you to have black hair blah blah blah blah right he took her clothing shop and picked out her clothes and everything she you don't look good in shapes you don't look good in Floral prints right um she was his Barbie yeah and she had to be because only he knew what he wanted yeah he wanted what he wanted at one point in the movie he said to her I need a girl who does this this and is this acts this way and does these things are you going to be that or not and she was like well I I guess I better be that now I I have another issue with this whole movie and this is a movie ostensibly made about a woman's book MH now Priscilla Presley what was marrying Elvis Presley yeah but then she didn't want him to be Elvis Presley anymore and this happens all the time so if you want a man who's going to finish work at 5:00 no women are interested in him he's going to come home you're going to have dinner he's going to play with the kids and fall asleep 9 10:00 get up marry a letter carrier yeah do not marry John Lennon right Cynthia marry John Lennon and it was like this isn't working out this guy's out all night with his friend just like of course he is he's John Lennon he's in the Beatles that's you married John Lennon yeah but I don't and as far as the movie goes it didn't seem like she I mean there was times she like I want to come come and he's like no you can't come with the band right but but there was other things like when she was like oh I want to get a job so I have something to do and he's like no I don't want a working woman blah blah blah because she she wasn't a normal girl she was the king of rock and roll's wife so everybody wherever she worked if she worked at a diner a thousand people would come there and eat there and ask her and talk to her and into everything she couldn't go the one girl said you can't play with your dog on the front lawn there's like a hundred photographers out there taking a picture this m so you you have to be discreet now you you're this you're now a special person so she really was not a special person ever yeah she was a beautiful girl but beautiful girls we have them you know we make new ones every year MH she had greatness thrust upon her she was not the queen of rock and roll she was the Barbie of the king of rock and roll so you ask yourself you're going to marry the king of rock and roll there's going to be benefits and there's going to be downsides when he's on tour and he comes off the stage and there's hundreds of women screaming and screaming and screaming he has to be the sex symbol he can't go oh wait a minute I'm a married man you ladies all have to go home no they need him to be that character what he is in real life is that's him oh well I guess there was like James Dean and stuff I was going to say was this like the the birth of kind of the sex symbol but probably in this era for sure that well that style yeah you know they they had them before I mean but they didn't have this kind of rock and roll this postwar it was after World War II rock and roll happened and the the film making boom yeah right technology was moving quickly the cars were getting better every year right there was new exciting stuff constantly you couldn't do enough new exciting stuff fast enough now the year goes by and there's really no original music it's all pretty much the same you know the same kind of thing but at that time they had the top 40 and you knew those songs and they were different they were new they were Innovative Elvis a allot of them are just 12 Bar Blues aren't they a lot of that might have been but then you had the Beetles and the stones and the masas and the Papas and you know right the the whole the whole thing those folk bands like The Mamas and the Papas they were so different they were so very different so every week the record store had stuff that nobody ever then they had psychedelic and that was a whole another couple of years of phenomenally different stuff so I really was unhappy with the movie Elvis Presley was 6 feet tall and Priscilla was 5'4 but in the movie he was like two feet taller than her I mean he he was hugging her like down here right so it wasn't like that and um as I said they didn't even mention Lisa Marie's they like all of a sudden there was a baby in the movie they never even said the name didn't think about that at all and this is supposed to be a woman's movie this is a woman's perspective now in addition to everything else Elvis had a third Persona and that was the drug addict yeah and when he started taking drugs as a young man and giving them to her when she was you know in her teens it was they it wasn't like amphetamines it was a pet pill yeah hey this you stay up a little bit late such a different time too I bet everyone was just like my doctor said take it so I'm going to take it his drug problem was even recognized like for the first 10 years then I mean by the time he got to Las Vegas and he was in continent it was like Hey this guy's got a real problem and you know just like Brian Wilson they just destroyed him yeah they burned Michael Jackson too right they destroyed Michael Jackson with drugs God only knows how many more fantastic things that he might have done like he was the King of Pop this was the king of rock and roll right I thought it was funny in the movie how he Des arage The Beatles it's like yeah that was what's a beetle well they have four of the top five and you don't have one in the top five that was a good good moment so but I will say one great thing for the movie that I really loved and you know what it is and if you had thought about it for a minute you would think of it was it the pistols the cars oh the cars okay the cars yeah yeah well those they did have some interesting handguns but yeah of course they had those fantastic cars yeah and you know especially the 61 Cadillac what a rocket ship there's nothing like that now yeah nothing even remotely like that I loved when they showed up in the Cadillac that was cool and and even in the last scene of the movie when she's driving away I I'm looking at that steering wheel the steering wheel was this deep it had arms that went back like this I think it was a Chrysler Imperial I could be wrong they didn't pan back or anything so I'm looking at the window moldings trying to figure it out you know like probably like a 66 Imperial I don't think the Toronado had it they showed a Toronado I was I wanted wanted to see that more but they didn't but I loved the cars they didn't that it was her movie it was Priscilla they didn't feature his songs hardly hardly no yeah and at first I thought like she was just such a in the beginning like just such a blah character just like no development nothing to her really she didn't even really talk much it was kind of well how could she she wasn't the star yeah she was this little adjunct tagal person that at the right time for the right reason and in the beginning he was still very innocent he was in the Army mhm he was still very innocent at that point and she was innocent and he identified with that you're a girl from back home they were in Germany you're an American girl you talk like me they didn't do any of the accents yeah right he did not do a good Elvis impersonation hard you know and and uh look at the difference in height I I was like yeah no he you know but but that's okay but but but there were there were two innocent people thrust into this thing and the parents now the parent now you're talking about grooming it it's and you said it what were these parents thinking they're sending her to Memphis and then they went right to Las Vegas I mean when she came back on the airplane she looked like a Wiccan you know cuz they would take drugs to stay awake and then they take drugs to fall asleep to wake up yeah and then they take drugs to wake up yep right so she came home she was all rung out MH so but I think the parents were Star Struck as well and and it would be easy it was such an innocent time she was chaperoned everybody was assuring them that everything was okay and it was yeah he was an honorable guy but kids can't make adult decisions it it the same thing happens right now right in my town a 17-year-old boy gets a 15-year-old old girl pregnant they are not ready to be parents they're not adults but yet they'll tell this boy well you're the responsible you're the father you're now you're going to pay support and everything he's like I just I I had no idea any of this was going to happen you know like people aren't educated in how to act like an adult when they're young yeah so it was an innocent time an innocent girl and an an innocent guy he he's beset upon by all these Leach is producers record people everybody's ringing them out ringing them we got something good we you know who knows but he might end tomorrow do you think cuz obviously there's scenes where he's like throwing a chair at her and oh that was surprising playing mind games with her like we we need to go on a break then she starts to walk away he's like you know what baby I was just I was just I'm tired baby come back yeah he apologized his way out of everything and she accepted those apologies do you because she wanted to stay in graceand too you know there's a certain amount of lust in this thing there's a certain amount of like I'm being driven everywhere in limousines I don't want to throw that in the garbage yeah right so you know it tradeoffs are hard when you start to trade your integrity when you start to make tradeoffs say I'll accept a little abuse for a lot of benefit I'll accept a little bit more abuse cuz I still want the benefit you think he was abusive to her or like by what standard that's what I'm first of all he's out of control cuz he's on drugs yeah second of all there's phenomenal pressure on him to produce millions of dollars for hundreds of people all the time yeah but do you think do you what I'm going to ask do you think this movie was made to see like she was kind of his punching bag in a sense he never punched her no not I'm not saying like like literally but like took out like his frustrations with right sometimes he needed to vent that way or whatever and he would he would get a little short with her and they didn't they didn't show violence I mean they you know he did throw a chair or he did pound the table or whatever once or what whatever but it was nothing like what today I mean today we have you know people are killing each other they're chaining them up in the basement you know yeah but so why why do you think that this movie was made do you think it was to show a different side of Elvis to bring light to Priscilla's story actually which there's not much of a story really um I think it was nothing but self-indulgent crap really I really do I don't know why this movie was made it it has no it didn't Advance anybody's understanding of anything it didn't there there was no big expose or anything like that it certainly didn't make her look good MH you know yeah and she's a real person in real life y you know still around right right yeah I just some friends of mine were just with her they sent me a photo maybe if I can find it I'll show it to you okay yeah some rock and roll guys and she was one of the people in the picture but Priscilla Presley was not a star she was a person who was married to a star and and because of that she has a certain amount of status but because he was the king of rock and roll she was not the queen of rock and roll if he was around today you think they would have worked things out cuz he was he was definitely in love with her at the very least right yeah well at at that time he was so drugged yeah that you know he's having a hard time controlling anything or you know it's it's it's hard when you're manipulated by people year after year after a year and that Colonel Tom Parker didn't do him any favors he rung him out you know he abused him to the end and killed him with dope yeah you know and so it's a tragic story we lost a great look at that yeah yeah we we lost a great performer a brilliant performer he should have been able to be just just like we lost so many Michael Jackson and we still have Brian Wilson but you know not like he was yeah but yeah these people are they they really get rung out and they die and that's exactly what happened to him and she has remained and uh if if they would have rehabilitated him God only knows what would have happened we can't even imagine cuz what's the rehabilitated Elvis like yeah what would that look like probably not so you know not the same did you see the other Elvis movie came out a year or two ago that was a great movie I haven't seen that one actually that was you're going to really enjoy that you're going to learn a lot you're going to have much more reverence for him you and you you review him anyway you're a fan anyway yeah but yeah he was an innovator he was a unique guy and at a time when that was the world was wide open for that yeah and it stayed that way for about the next 10 or 15 years and then somewhere around 1973 it just trailed off what's your favorite Elvis song I'm evil I'm evil yeah yeah you'll have to listen to it what's your favorite Elvis movie I I don't have a favorite Elvis movie his movies were crap yeah I've seen like maybe two or three but the only one that I could comes ahead is Blue Hawaii Blue Hawaii and Via vas oh yeah via Las Vegas I think they mentioned that in the movie yeah and uh Heartbreak Hotel was that one that was not a movie no no no no the prison one um right Jail House Rock song it's just it's just a music video right it's not a movie I don't think there's a music video there is there 100% is with Elvis Presley 100% oh okay 100% I don't remember seeing that I'm sure you're right yeah now that you're saying it I feel like yeah he like slides down the pool the the the bars the jail yeah yeah any from that time is really bad you know but they didn't know how to they didn't know what to do they you know I mean it's it's like watching the monkeys the TV show they they didn't know what to do the Beatles didn't know what they have running out in the field with weird outfits they didn't know what to do back then you said it was a great time to now the 80s the ' 80s are when videos started to get good then real video producers started coming in and say look we're going to take your song we're going to make these settings we're going to you know but before that it was just you know yeah so what do you what do you give this movie Fred Priscilla yeah I didn't I don't it it doesn't Mar watching I'll give it a two really yeah dang just cuz I like seeing graceand and you know some of the settings are fun I guess but uh I actually liked it um but maybe just because I like pretty much anything about Elvis so huh I think I'm going to give it like a six mhm six I think it was worth watching that's for you know you hear that I think it was worth watching I didn't think it was the best uh movie you're going to watch the other one yeah I got to watch the other one way better I got to watch the other one you're going to really dig that yeah definitely but yeah so six and a two right so that's about a eh right yeah that's been a review of Priscilla Fred not so impressed I'm okay with it but you guys should go check it out while it's in theaters and give us your opin opions give us a like comment subscribe let us know what you think about the movie Priscilla recommend any other movies you'd like for Fred and I to review old or anything new coming out and we'll make sure to get on top of that until next time we'll see you there