Unrecognizable Tom Cruise Steals the Show in 'Tropic Thunder': A Hilarious Comedy Movie Review!

the other person that's got his own personal conflict all during that time is Jack Black because he's a heavy duty drug addict I love this part cuz he's getting all cracked out like you know like that's what happens you know when you're cranked like that and I wow look how speaking from experience or anything you see on the news I don't believe a word of it just what they picked the report on and how they slant it and they Hollywood it up and the thing where Ben Stiller is running to the helicopter like in platoon and sh in the back as he's run but he gets up like 15 times you know I was ask you would do you think let's say you know this script this never happened in 2008 script hits a producer's desk today do you think they' they' go through with it not at all hi I'm Fred satii and I'm Shane schm and this is the real generation gap and if there was ever a movie that bridged every imaginable generation gap I think this would be the one in the outrageous world of cinem where make believe often blurs the line between fantasy and reality Tropic Thunder stands as a comedic Masterpiece that fearlessly Lampoons Hollywood successes and eccentricities directed by and starring Ben Stiller this 2008 satire takes no prisoners as it thrusts us into a riotous realm of actors playing actors Misadventures in the jungle and the absurdity of War film making with a stellar ensemble cast that includes Robert Downey Jr Jack Black Nick nty and an unrecognizable Tom Cruz trapic Thunder emerges not just as a laugh out loud Riot but a sharp edged commentary on the film industry itself this is you know I I I said it to you before watching this movie is like looking at a supermodel what can you say you just look at that oh my God oh my God every inch is perfect yeah this is definitely one of my favorite probably my favorite comedy um I think it's one of the most underrated comedy you know most people in my generation they go to super bad um movies like that but Tropic Thunder stands above all for me it it really is up there with Galaxy Quest I oh I love Galaxy Quest 2 um no one knows Galaxy Quest but yeah I love Galaxy Quest no I think a lot of people know Galaxy Quest maybe people of your generation but the other one I can't remember the name of the movie maybe you'll get it where a whole bunch of guys go to Las Vegas Mike Tyson has the tiger yeah um what is that one called that is called I'm drawing a blank now I'm drawing it'll it'll come to you it'll come but that also is this level this level yes you know back in 1961 they had the mad mad mad mad world never heard of it I I know but see to me that was the Pinnacle of what could be it's a three-h hour non-stop every joke this thing jams so much so much the site gags every visual thing visual there's one liner through the whole thing um it's non-stop comedy for me personally I thought I think it's one of the funniest movies I've ever seen it's it really is it really is and you're really good with remembering every line like I remember some line yeah so when I first saw this movie um it came out in 2008 obviously I was still in high school um I was in Hawaii visiting my family for the summer and typically this isn't a movie my mom would be okay with me watching but my aunt and uncle in Hawaii they're cool so they took me to see this and um I was like blown away well you know it I think everybody has that reaction and it starts before you know it yeah exactly because they have previews yeah so it opens up with trailers so basically this movie is about the experience these actors go through making a war film so it starts with trailers of all these actors and their previous movies and things that they're notable for but when I walked into the theater as a 16-year-old to see this movie I was like oh these are trailers for upcoming movies that's weird Robert Danny Jr is goingon to be a gay priest that's weird Jack Black's gonna be in a farting movie what what's going on right and it's very viable for me it was for me too I I believe those were previews I really believe that there were previews or trailers for upcoming bad movies yes like this is the worst thing this is awful this is horrific and that's the primer that sets the tone it does set the tone so yeah they have that guy alpacino and first he starts by advertising now now wait now now wait a second not Al Pacino Alpa right because young people like to mutilate the English language sort of the way the French did with Latin sure it makes it their own they made their own you know weird little language there but it's a very hip-hop thing to do he so he took alpacino right and he's Alpa Alpa Chino and then U yeah he he starts by advertising his his booty sweat drink and his bust a nut bar and that's like making a mockery of hip-hop kind of cuz you know everything's booty and busting nut this so that's really funny and then we have the scorched Earth which is Ben Stiller I forgot their characters uh but Ben Stiller's character he has scorched earth like 10 and then like this time time it's the same but different and it's all snowy yeah revenge of son of you know he's back with a vengeance scorched Earth we have Jack Black and he's in the fatties which seem very much like um what's his name Medina or something not Vena um The Nutty Professor seemed like The Nutty Professor right because of the haircut and all well he plays all the actors and then one of them's fat and it's farting and stuff yeah and then juvenile yeah and then my favorite one was Satan's alley which had Robert Danny Jr and um Spider-Man what's his name Toby McGuire Toby McGuire thank you Robert Danny Jr and Toby McGuire you did you got me there had Toby McGuire and they play gay priest and that that one had me dying especially with that sound when when they're holding the beads like the rosary they're holding it they're looking they get a look on their face and it ends I've been a bad boy father right yeah that like the the that's such like an exorcist movie thing you know what I mean you're going to hell I love yeah so that's how the movie starts you start with these trailers and um it really PS you into the world of these actors and then it goes into ultra high gear for a long time because they're shooting war movie scenes and the thing where Ben Stiller is running to the helicopter like in platoon and they're shooting him in the back as he's running but he gets up like 15 times you know and and finally Robert Downey Jr goes over and gives him like acting tips so I don't know if you realize but but the the first scene is the last scene right oh of course yeah so when they're because they were making the movie then they made the movie yeah so so basically these guys so yeah like you were saying he does the whole platoon he's getting shot up and then it kind of comes up to Ben Stiller's dilemma where he has a scene with Robert Downey Jr Robert Downey Jr is in he has black skin and and and and tell him how they they talked about that before you see him doing oh yeah they have a Hollywood Insider right right and that's a good touch on on uh right so not only did they do a parody of the war movies and not only did they do a parody of acting but they also did a parody of the media responding to all that so they show where he had like skin pigmentation surgery yes to make him look black and he did look black I mean he he really I was believable so yeah Robert D like if you missed that if for some reason you you know you went to the refrigerator and you came back like you would never never guess it that was Iron Man you wouldn't and was he Iron Man at this point I don't no no this was way before that but I mean just just for me looking at it yeah I mean I can't see him Robert Downey J as Iron Man you know no matter what and uh but in that movie wow yeah the job he did and he stay in character yeah so he's playing a method actor which a method actor they're they're in character 24/7 once accept the role they never stop being the character right now the alpacino guy is actually a black guy yes so so he's he's during the the making of the making of Robert Downey Jr never goes out a character he's like why are you still talking like this you're from Australia like look Kangaroo Jack yeah he starts calling him kangaroo cuz Robert Denny Jr is actually an Australian actor a white Australian actor who's Who's acting but the black guy is like I get it what you're doing but when we're when we're not making the movie you you stay in character to agree that's offensive it's offensive you know so yeah so we're back um Ben Stiller Ben Stiller had just gotten shot up his hands are actually blown off um and he needs to have a cry scene and he can't cry and that's kind of his dilemma throughout the whole movie he hasn't figured out how to cry as an actor and U Robert dowy Jr is there trying to like coach him like come on cry cry cry Ben still is trying to call cut is like no let's not I we need to do this again uh meanwhile Danny McBride's in the background the Pyro guy yeah he's in the background he's ready to he has like a whole give give the audience some introduce him like he's he's in the making of the movie there's pyrot tianic scenes and he's the pyrot Technic technician but in reality he's a pyromaniac like he loves blowing stuff up and setting stuff on fire he's like call in the air strike it's like the cameras aren't even on call it in anyway he's he wants that very into it um so yeah you just wasted a $4 million air strike he's like well yeah yeah so so the director's like cut cut and he's like throwing a fit and Danny McBride's like that's the sign let's go go go go go and then so the the plane comes in lays a giant carpet bomb down he's super stoked to light it up and then they basically that's what starts the film they blow however many million dollars on that one scene that they didn't even record yeah four Mill he wasted $4 million $4 million yeah and then the Pyro guy he uh Danny McBride he's just hilarious and and and all through the movie his his answer to everything is to blow something up and he's always got like a little C4 with him or a little Dynamite or he's got a bag of something even when they even they when they attack the Village Way later in the movie Jack Black the drug addict is looking for the dope he's looking for the bombs everybody's got like an agenda you know a real world agenda so then um after the the The Scene goes wrong we have that aess Hollywood time and then that's when we meet Les Grossman who's Tom Cruz and you would never guess it and when I first saw I didn't know it was Tom Cruz till the credit scene when I first saw this oh the first time yeah first time I saw it and then the credits it's the credits are great we'll get to that but yeah I didn't realize it was Tom Cruz cuz he's got prosthetic arms that are just hairy he's got crazy chest hair coming out he's bald bald he's just like a super Hollywood super Hollywood um um but he but he is he's the big money behind all he's the big money he's a big producer guy he's yeah he's the billionaire he's the shot caller and he behind him he's got a giant sycophantic Squad that just supports everything he does no matter how ludicrous he's like can I get a Diet Coke there's like two of them com in the you know right in the scene so he's got a problem and his problem was with the director the British director and the movie we were talking about earlier is The Hangover just came thank you hang yeah there's a that's another Masterpiece good job good job see um yeah as you get older it gets a little slower get a little you'll see yeah so so he has a problem with the director who's a British guy he's the British director so they add that cliche in yes and he can't get any respect from everybody no matter what he says all the actors are doing their own thing absolutely crazy and he gets a hold of that guy and he says you got to make a success of this thing and he tries to make a success of it through his own pep talk but it's not going anywhere everybody's distracted but that's when they introduced Nick n now Nick nty plays the part of fourleaf the man who wrote the book that the movie is based on and he is a war veteran who's his hands are shot off and he's got hooks so Nick nty has got hooks and he wrote a book right he wrote yeah he wrote the book you know they wrote the book Tropic Thunder is the name of the book and he's there as a technical consultant but he's nickn so he's really Gruff look buddy look you got to do this you got to do that he goes if you want the real thing you got to take him in the real jungle with the real war you got to expose him to all this real stuff you got to do and he gets the British actor all wound up and he he tells them all right we're going to go out in the jungle we're gonna have hidden cameras yeah and one of my one of the lines I like right there is cuz so basically this is a video call and um he comes out of nowhere and he's telling on the video call is Tom Cruz's character um the the director's there and um the vet comes out of nowhere and he's like you got to take him into the jungle blah blah blah blah but then Tom Cruz comes out and he's like who's this guy and then he tells him who he is he's like oh you're an American hero you're an American hero the the country owes you a great debt now shut the and let me do my job I love that part this far hilarious and then and then Nick n's lines right I I wrote them down cuz I didn't win a this quote he he says I'm going to put my fist so far up your backside that if you have a thought it'll have to get past my wedding ring know yeah and then he says once these guys are out there for a short amount of time they'll be begging for a body bag just if it means a ride home so he's that super hardcore guy super hard and your favorite line that he says the one where he the guy says to the pyromaniac says that's a great sidearm what is it he goes I don't know what they call it I just know the sound it makes when it takes a man's life super cliche like you can't even he's like looking off into the and the Pyro guy turns that around later in the movie does and he has I can't remember exactly what he says but he's setting off bombs right he says I only know the noise they make like he learned that from him so I thought that was an especially funny call back that a lot of call backs I mean this movie is loaded with call backs no matter what happens there's going to be another joke about that later somewhere later in the thing so so they decide so the vet gets to them and they decide to shoot a gorilla style so they're going to go in the jungle and it's going to be gorilla shoot meth like everyone's now method acting basically so the right off the top the director's like let's do this they're in the middle of the Jungle and he steps on a land mine and this is a great scene because Ben Stiller's character doesn't realize it's real yeah even though the guy's blown into pieces he's like how did they do that this is phenomenal he's he's looking for because he thinks there's cameras because the director says there's cameras in all the trees and stuff so every time he does anything he's like looking up at a tree and talking to it you know because he thinks there's a camera somewhere and then the cool part of that is when they go into the into the village the native Village the native Village actually has cameras because they have a drug business so he sees those cameras like oh oh okay like you know he's giving giving them the big wink and even when they're torturing him he's going like cut cut yeah he's like okay cut yeah yeah yeah yeah so when the guy blows up I love when Ben Steeler is like look it's just it's fake blood it's corn starch and fake oh real tasting corn starch yeah tastes just like blood he's holding up the director's head yeah that I thought that was and then and then the the ostensibly the VC or the NVA that are in the woods they're looking at this they say these guys have no fear whatsoever Jack Block's going like you know come and get me they're holding guns up so they go to go shoot this movie in the jungle and they end up in this area called the Golden Triangle and in the Golden Triangle there's there's drug Warlords there the cast thinks this all their shooting and stuff is part of the movie they don't realize because in the script they actually go into the bush and there is a you know a drug Village so they're like okay this is consistent with this the script and the Golden Triangle they are that's a real thing yes you know and but they just think it's part of the movie part of the movie so they're laughing about it yeah so movie goes on um the the the crews going through the jungle they're getting mad at each other um Robert dowy Jr still acting like a black dude even though he's not alucino is getting mad at them well they have a they have a discrepancy over where they are they want to go they have they have the map right so they they get the map out won't give him the map cuz he wants to lead the thing right but he's holding it upside down down and then the map guy zinsky or whatever his name is he he's trying to tell him which way to go that's the joke in the movie no one knows his name the whole time I still don't remember I can't remember it yeah and only at the very end but they're going through and one of the guys drops the the drink can right the booty sweat so they're like I'll go this way you get this way and Ben Stiller decides he's going to go a different way than everybody you guys go your way I'm going to go my way and both of them are lost yes and the and the one crew which but by doing that he's still following the script technically that's right yeah SE separate right he gets captured first so they're going through the jungle and after after going for an entire day they find the can of booty sweat yes so they know that they're exactly where they started yes in the meanwhile Ben Stiller is captured Ben Stiller's captured and that's the the beginning of his problem because as you said in the beginning he made a series of movies where he he played a well they call it special needs now but he played the a simple Jack Simple Jack right Simple Jack yeah play as a guy and and this is this is a point in the movie where something happened that really made me laugh because they they the guys in the jungle they recognize him as simple Jack because that's the only movie they ever had they have a VHS tape of simple Jack now and back at in at the time when I was young it was very common to have like a a tape player in your car and like you only had one tape in fact Stephen Wright has a joke I don't know if you know the comedian Stephen wght he's a monolithic genius he said yeah we went across country with a car we only had one tape the whole time can't remember what it was like the one I had experience like so that was like yeah I get that so they recognize him and because they he's the only guy that could be a movie star like he's the one unique guy yeah so they're being the crap out of Ben Stiller and he's like please stop right and when he does when he's begging for his life he sounds he sounds like simple and they're like wait a minute say that again he's like please stop and then he hits him again no say how you said it before p p please tough right so they so they dress him up like simple Jack and they're trying to recreate The Simple Jack movie yeah they have a the theatrical viewing of yeah the the whole all the all the the drug Farmers you know all the heroin Farmers they they get them all together and they go look we're going to have this stage show they all love him they all they're going crazy a little kid is all all it's great and then prior to this scene we have to remember the the never go full scene between Ben Stiller and Robert Downey Jr uh it's a great scene Robert Downey Jr uh is going over like other actors and things that they roles they've played where they play someone Autistic or um as you would say in the movie uh and he's basically explaining you couldn't even make this movie now all these jokes are way out he's explaining to Ben Stiller you never go full sometimes you touch it a little bit you dance with it a little bit but you never go full it's too much for the audience yeah that's why you didn't get the award you went too far he went too far Yeah by that point in the show the relationship of Ben Stiller and Robert Downey Jr they're they're trying to make each other better actors and they're trying to relate as actors even though they're in a reality situation they're going to be killed there's machine gun fire bombs going off now the other person that's got his own personal conflict all during that time is Jack Black because he's a heavy duty drug addict he does not realize when they take him out there that they're not bringing him home only got enough dope for one day and this is like day three right so he's jonesing like absolutely insane it's all he's thinking about he doesn't care about the enemy the jungle these other guys anything he's just trying to get it and when he sneaks off to take he's got the he's got the dope in a jelly bean bag when he takes it out and holds it up a bat flies by and grabs the bag and then he's chasing the bat for a little while and then eventually I love this part cuz he's getting all cracked out like well he needs his he needs his fix and uh he cashes the bat and then he bites it blood all over him yeah that was great now you know now one of the nuances way in the beginning of the film with him with that was when they first interview him the whole interview he's like this he's got the he's got the Grits right he's got the he's got the speed freak thing going he's like yeah hi everybody I'm you know like that's what happens you know when you're cranked like that and I wow look speaking from experience or somebody well you know I read a lot you know I think it was I think it was something in Time Magazine you know but that was that was really cool that even then there's so much that's the call back right that's they start right from the beginning everybody's in this incredible character yeah you know yeah and like they're all portraying an aspect of Hollywood which is weird because Robert Denny Jr had like really crazy drug history right and I wonder yeah that was interesting I just thought of that they probably all have like neurotic problem and Stu you know I think everybody could relate I think a lot of the quality this film and I I even put it in my notes a lot of the quality of this film is because these guys lived a lot of this stuff they're jaded they've been on movie sets they know the ironic things that happen they they know you know how unreal that can be they've dealt with the media they know how unreal that can be they've dealt with billionaire producers exactly right they know that these exentric billiona like for them nothing that was happening was unusual ex everything was in there even though it was the most ridiculous possible circumstances in real life those actors have actually been you know with drug addicts paranoid people you and and the guy who who exemplifies that just as much as any is Matthew MCC yes Matthew MCC all he's got his whole own set of issues that have virtually nothing to do with the story so he's Ben Steeler's uh agent yes he's his agent and anytime it cuts to him he's all on the Wii he's playing games right Wii golf Wii tennis I don't even have we anymore do they no but so that was 15 years ago that was a real thing a real thing and the whole time he's like trying to make sure Ben Stiller gets his too right because it's in the contract yeah that's it's in the contract and that's like what he's absolutely trying to make sure happen you're in country you have the too you don't who do these guys think they are he goes to the billionaire and he says he use this contract for toilet paper there's a too thing I'm going to get you on a three-way call with meanwhile he's a prison reward he's captured by the drug lords and he's you know I I got the Teo thing under control yeah the the the drug Lord's call and then um what's his name oh I forgot about about that part oh they answer and like we're a flaming Dragon yeah and then um my favorite part that when they when he tells them we're the Flaming Dragon the the billionaire doesn't know about this but he's got a wall of people behind who immediately go on laptops and and everything and they give him all the information they give him everything there is so now he's talking to the guy he knows all about his business where he is what his what his net worth is what his capitalization is and and of course he tells him you know to drop dead he but I mean he really curses at him I don't know what we want to say on what's we can say on the show here but he he really like he tells him to take a walk in a very colorful style and the kid the the the drug lord of course they they have to make it as ridiculous possible so he's like a guy who's four feet tall like 16 years old smoking a cigar he's got a giant AK he's calling the shots on all these brutal Savage guys you know it's a it's a heroin Factory and uh uh but he's he's almost believable he's so mean and so angry and so evil he can't believe somebody's talking to him this way yeah but and then he basically says some terrible things that are hilarious right and then I love when he hangs up he's all proud of himself like we do not negotiate with terrorists and then his ensemble's like clapping I love that part but we skipped a hilarious scene when um so when Ben stard goes his own way he spends a night in The Jungle by himself and he gets attacked by what he thinks is a bear and then it ends up being a panda and he kills it it's not even a panda it's a stuffed it's a teddy bear pant yeah it looks fake right yeah and then he kills it and then he calls his agent or the agent calls him and then he's like I killed the thing I love most in the world and then the agent's like oh no you killed a hooker he's trying to help him cover it up and that's and that the psychosis of the Nightmare and of course he's he's you know attacking a stuffed animal that's when he makes the turn that's when it goes Apocalypse Now yes yeah that's when it goes very Apocalypse Now right that's that's when he's losing his mind In the Jungle the jungle so he's got the panda head on top of his head like with the teeth so and you know and he's he's in there now and uh they they capture him like that yes they capture him like that so he's already metamorphosized he he can't there's no more pain there's no more no matter what they do in the jungle all the the the drug people they they love him well they don't love him but they love Simple Jack yeah so he's kind of their little puppet and uh as long as he's doing that he can survive as long as he's doing that they like him the minute he doesn't they don't like him so the gang decides well they they they come upon this they say they captured you know they captured Ben still or tug right they captured and now we got to get them out they say we we're actors yeah they're we're not no he says they said he he says they're trained soldiers and he says we're trained actors right they're going to act like soldiers exactly he's that that's really a funny moment and so they're going to do what's in the script they're they're going to do the two guys are going to make a diversion the other two guys are going up the river it's just too funny it's just too funny so meanwhile back in the Pyro guy and Nick nty are off they're also captured too yeah but meanwhile Tom Cruz he's like oh let's just let them keep him and in a few months we'll have an insurance right off and we'll get a bunch of money get all our money back from this failed movie there's a part when when they're making this plan to to save um Ben Stiller um they go to alucino and he's like all sad about a girl that he misses and um Robert dowy Jr asks him well what's her name and then in his own thinking about it he just says Lance and then at the end of the movie it shows him with basically they tease yeah with Justin baitman like they're at the Oscars he's with the Oscars with Justin baitman no he's with Lance from in sync I was going to ask you if you got that joke okay I totally did not cuz I was I just saw I saw Justin baitman and I thought he was the gay laer no he's with Lance from in sync so the whole time cuz he's in the music industry remember right oh yeah yeah he's playing alpachino is in the music industry so when he says Lance he's talking about Lance from insync that that went that totally went over my head but that thing at the end when they're showing the Oscars and they they show John Voit he thinks he's going get the Oscar for whatever but I don't know what they what movie they were making at that time but it must have been poignant at the time but how he's like disappointed you know and the fact that it's John Voit like the most legitimate actor ever you know and then then here's these bunch of jackasses are yeah any we'll get to we'll get to the end but um but now we roll into a whole another genre of of like Sylvester Stallone and Rambo or any any of those things now they're going to rescue Stiller and they're going to escape and of course they have to go over to bridge because you always have to blow the bridge right in an escape thing like an you probably never saw the dirty dozen no but you know it's it's that same cliche you know and you got to get across the bridge like there's always that one guy last one yeah right you know yeah they basically free Ben Stiller there's a whole scene of them trying to snap each other out of there Ben Stiller is trying to come out of his you know I'm Simple Jack mind and then he's trying to get um but it's also the Apocalypse Now the apoc the Apocalypse Now like lost in the jungle he say I'm staying here this is my world now I have a giant audience and he the little boy he says I even have a son yes yeah you he's got the little tiny the little tiny half squat does everybody call him half squat I yeah something like that yeah yeah the drug lord guy he I think Jack Black at one point goes okay Matchbox Matchbox I also love this see where Jack Black finds all the drugs and he's about to do them and then the two guys come in to shoot him and he just runs up to them fits all in their face and what a great line he says we have to get out of here now he goes they'll they'll be asleep for 16 hours really have 16 hour like he knows so they all kind of awaken from whatever their problem was in the beginning of the movie as they're being as they're trying to flee uh the camp Jack Black doesn't do drugs and he's kind of like he's kind of alert now yeah he's made it through it yeah he's made it through he's like alert now he's ready to go um uh alpacino already had admitted that he was kind of gay to them um Robert dowy Jr and Ben Affleck Ben Affleck that would have been great if he was in it Robert dowy Jr and Ben Stiller they have a moment where uh Ben Stiller kind of play like reverses it on uh they have finally have the emotional moment they finally have yeah so that all happens and then like you said they're fleeing the camp they're running out the bridge Danny McBride's got the bridge lit up with TNT ready to go and then we have a so from that point on wait wait a minute what snaps Ben Stiller out of his because remember he still wants his son he grabs the little kid and of course the little kid tries to stab him he throws him up in the air you see that it's obviously a stuffed animal but flying through the air but it's so funny but what snaps him out of the jungle fever is they're escaping in a truck and they blow up the truck and when he flies through the air and hits the ground that's when yeah he's like wow what was that what am I doing here it's like we're we're escaping H that they got to go across the bridge so yeah they escape and that that whole exiting scene is basically the opening scene but in real life in real life yeah they're actually doing it just like in the script Y and uh that's basic and then at the end of the movie like you said he wins an Academy Award for the making of this movie movie The the movie of the making of this movie he wins an award for that and um yeah it's just yeah they they they did the making of a movie that that there actually never was the movie yeah so I think I saw something like that once you know I think there's like that premise okay where they show the entire making and it at the end of the of the old movie I can't possibly remember it now but at the end they show like one scene out of it okay like what everybody did to get to that point interesting so yeah yeah if I if I run through that I'll let you know I'll I'll call you back or whatever and you know yeah so it's when when when Jack Black finds that there's like a giant thing of heroin in the house he goes he goes running towards it and he yells back don't judge me those kind of cliches just just one after the other you know don't judge me I love it and then we we skipped the also what do you mean you people and then Al knows the same time what do you mean you people and that was in the trailer back in the day and I remember that sold me I was like oh this is going to be hilarious right because you innocently he he wasn't making a racial comment in any way it was just the other the other actors just like look you people have to realize that we're in trouble here and then it was what do you mean you people yeah and then then like you said the alpacino guy who actually was black he's like wait a minute what do you mean that that and that's for today this is like the cancel culture thing do you think let's say you know this script this never happened in 2008 script hits a producer's desk today do you think they would they would go through with it not at all it wouldn't it wouldn't not at all nope I don't think he could make this today first of all the jokes that the the vocabulary would never fly It's amazing And this is a point that I wanted to make separate from the movie just between you and me and the generation gap way because this is you know we're we're we're Who We Are in this thing and that is when I was growing up you could talk this way when I had friends whatever their ethnicity was you called them that whatever their you know if you had a guy named Stanley you could call him stinky and he would be okay with that he'd be like I'm stinky Linsky you know I mean he'd have a girlfriend she'd call him stinky it it wouldn't be bad there was always like a really really Scandinavian guy with like corn Silk Hair he was Whitey there was always like a Greek guy who was really dark complexed he was Blacky a lot of girls were called Blackie they had you know if they had the jet black hair okay and that was like you you know you would do that now you can't do that yeah and that's the same thing with the jokes ethnic jokes were huge I mean I know a hundred jokes for every ethnicity I can't tell any of them now and you I mean you've seen The Sopranos the way people talked to each other you know they derogatory comments and you know not ethnic sex you know gender jokes or whatever I mean all those words the a word the b word the c word the e word the FW the G word we used all those words now we don't have the freedom to use those words this is a serious it's interesting CU I think it's taken the fun out of my life I think most people still do it um in their circles and when you get to a position of power I think someone will pull that out and use it against you and we'll politicize it yeah and we'll make it into such a problem I think that Society still really does enjoy acknowledging that we're all different and making jokes out of it and being real about it I at least I hope I hope well you can hope all you want you're not old enough to even remember how much fun and how we how much fun it was to drive around in the car and yell stuff at people and you know tease the girls and you know I mean well I can't even tell the stories the stories would be too offensive for today if I told you things that we did and things that were done to us and you know I mean you you just just the fights alone you know you used to be able to have a manto man fight with a guy and like laugh it off and you know buy each other a beer and it was now you'd be sued there'd be medical issues there'd be all kind of Crybaby problems yeah but uh I really think that uh you know kind of men were men and women had tremendous power they can manipulate any guy they now they can't do it well I I have a small story I can tell you real quick and um so basically take your time um I have family in Hawaii um and you have family everywhere I I got family in places um I have family in Hawaii and um so they have a family friend and this guy he has very um ancient land he owns like an like ancestrial land in Hawaii right and um obviously a bunch of rich white people are buying it up from the natives as it happens everywhere um but so they kind of have a beef with one of their neighbors and uh something happened with the gate and they ended up getting a fight one of the locals and one of this rich white I would not want to fight a Hawaiian no me neither not a big Hawaiian guy no anyway so the fight whatever happens but because the Hawaiian guy said you stupid howy which means white guy right um which had no context to do with the fight was over a gate and like property lines or something stupid but because he said you stupid hoe the white the rich white guy went to the police told him he said that now it's a hate crime a hate crime oh it's a hate crime and he's in prison for I don't know how long um yeah they put the Hawaiian guy in the prison for using the word hoe for using the word hly yep wow said it was a hate crime when I lived in Singapore they called me angor it face is Whitey yeah it it's it actually the actual literal translation is red hair okay like people who had red hair but but that's what it was I was the Ang more drummer or I was the you know and it wasn't it just identified me you it wasn't like it was like an insult because really in IND it's a whatever country is just North of Singapore where jeor baru is um it's it's their language okay and and they this is just a word that they just Ed they didn't mean anything by it mhm you know the guys say Hey onore you know it's it's Whitey hey I grew up with mostly Latinos and I'm not full white I'm half but they assumed I am so they would call me Greeno and oh yeah I I actually like that like if a guy calls me that I'm like I'm over here you know there's nothing bad about that yeah it's I think it's it's a little different when it's going that way now was like the ethnic people call well I don't want say ethnic but the colored calling the white person white versus the white calling the colored color I think it's a little more acceptable I think it takes a really lot of fun out of life not not being ablee not being able to tease each other and and have because it actually it's a bonding thing it is if you get to the point where you can call each other names and I would never hesitate to beat you up I mean I will tell you any weird thing you know call you weird names or something you've always been that way with me you don't hold back you know I definitely make fun of your age at times that's for sure and and it's it's it's not it's not like I'm six months older than you I'm twice your age if not more yeah right right they perfect so it just it's just a shame that you can't go hey old man yeah because but you can't because it's now like what what are you shaming that guy what are you doing to that guy and this movie when I watched it and when you just asked a moment ago could this be produced now no it couldn't these actors wouldn't dare do this yeah they wouldn't dare and I think that's part of why it's so underrated too I feel like like I don't know I've never seen it just playing on HBO I've never just seen it playing I I saw it for free on on Amazon Prime years ago okay and then I wanted to watch it now because we decided to watch it and it was 3.99 so it would had expired or whatever and that's how that went but and I don't mind I you know but but it was at one time it was in there you could get it because things come and go through through Amazon Prime and Netflix any they streaming they have things that come and go you kind of kind of get them while you can and you know the sad part of all that with the streaming stuff is that they say well these are the new movies for a month frequently I don't like any of them I'm like well what the heck is this and you know what I'm noticing Shane there's a really lot of postapocalyptic movies now there is it seems like the world like they're almost grooming you like we're going to have an apocalypse everybody's going to be starving looking for ammo they're all going to have like a a a strange little girl who they just found on the road somewhere and I read something a long time ago in college I don't remember what it was but it's kind of coming to me right now that science fiction films portray the future and how Society sees the future and they've done a good job of kind of telling what's going to happen I can't think of anything El like we don't have flying cars but like we would you would see a movie and they' have these communication devices right and now everyone has a cell phone like if you think of sh they had their little thing that everyone has a cell phone um things like that um and yeah you're just talking about apocalyptic movies AI movies all of a sudden every second third movie yeah in a post-apocalyptic World a man and his daughter have to survive with giant cockroaches or whatever it is and uh it's kind of like I don't want to see a PO post-apocalyptic movie anymore I I don't I don't want to see them I'm so I like those yeah well they keep me on the edge anyway I I think we've pretty much beat this to death of course the outro was as good as the intro like you weren't to talk about the credits yeah okay yeah so that's what I was going to get at this movie does a great job of just keeping you invested so it starts with the trailers that are wild and weird and funny but the credit scene and this is when I finally realized oh my gosh that's Tom Cruz the first time you watch yeah the first time I watched it the credit scene is just a dancing Montage of Tom Cruz dancing to ludicrous um and it's it's hilarious cuz he's got he's got the fake arms and it's just great ah we didn't talk about the fake arms oh we didn't talk about but you know Tom Cruz since he made his literally debut in the movies but in that movie where he danced in his socks on the slidy floor and they did to take the old records off the shelf that oldtime rock and roll song they I mean Tom Cruz wants to do that yeah I I know he wanted to do that I wouldn't be surprised it's like yeah I'll do the part but on the outro I want to dance in my socks you know and and so that was the thing but yeah the thing that we glossed over we did a pretty good job of reviewing the movie but during the battle they find out that for leaf Nick nty all of a sudden his prosthetic arms get torn off and he he's got regular hands he was never even in combat he was never he was a sanitation department in the Coast Guard and the Pyro guy finds this out yeah he's all disappointed in yeah so then so so that's the fact that the whole movie is based on this war hero with the with the severed hands and that was a lie they get to the irony and satire of you know Hollywood you know everything's a a stretch right nothing's nothing is real exactly real and uh we could we could make um I don't know if if we're supposed to say that in the government every everything they tell us is a lie everything these are all stories that they tell the population they control the population anything you see on the news I don't believe a word of it you know I say oh they want us to think this now why do they want us to think this yeah oh they want us to think that there was a big fire in Maui I didn't go there now obviously there was a big fire in Maui but just what they picked the report on and how they slant it and they Hollywood it up after after 2020 every my perception of the news I was always like yeah it's just they're they're twisting things whatever but the the base yeah the Bas of it's true now I'm kind of like I don't know what real anymore and I'll find out in time not what these people telling me that's all we can do is sit back and watch cynically yeah cynically and and that's that's a shame because I don't want to be a cynic in life no but anyway okay I I you you said in a week or two ago that you will never give a movie a 10 and I can't imagine that you that you as far as comedies go this is a 10 for me this is this is up there I laugh the whole time um there's not a moment I'm not entertained I've watched this movie probably like 10 times now and every time it's like the first time still and uh I'm just laughing it's supposed to be over the top it goes there and it stays there I'm sure some of these guys behind the camera heard me laugh I was watching it earlier today on my seat and they heard me laughing and uh like I still laugh every and I right in my living room all by myself I'm like I can't believe it I so what do you give it what do you give it it's you know I'm an easy for a 10 okay you know I'm easy if a if a movie is bad I'll cut it to Pieces but we're we're watching movies that we you know that we really do right we're picking them because we like them we're not picking them so we could you know carp about him so yeah yeah this movie is a mustsee multiple times must see if you haven't seen Tropic Thunder it's it's probably my favorite comedy it probably will always be my favorite comedy it has satire to it and you can break down you know the Hollywood aspect the actor aspect um I I just think it's because people they're so many people in the industry are so cynical because they've been through these things so many times that they're able to I bet this was easy to write yeah I was like yeah what really happened we just tell our own St St of what we really did and who we really are and you know there's always you're on the set and people are just going crazy and you can't even make the movie because nobody's doing their job have you ever seen um oh what is it called it's the movie oh this is the end oh I just watched that that's a where all the actors play themselves yeah that's a great movie it's kind of kind of gives me this Vibe actually um that's another great movie that's kind of satirical on on Hollywood yeah 100 years ago everything was just real you had a story you told the story you filmed the story now there there's this a whole undercurrent in the world in the whole world of what people are really doing who they really are what their motivations really are it used to be a very black and white world you know you were this you were that you you you know you you had a job that's what you did that's who you are now people have multiple identities living separate different lives that used to be an very unusual thing and I think part of it is because in in those days the community watched you if you had a house and you had kids and they went to school and everything everybody knew who you are and neighborhoods they knew everybody in there because they all kids all comingled and everything now people don't have so many kids they have multiple parents because of divorces and deaths and all kind of reasons and uh you know the family unit is broken down that way and because of it the community that that supported that also disappeared so it's real interesting it's real interesting to see a movie about the making of a movie and and they're trashing their own industry they're trashing everything everything I mean they really do yeah they do it so well they do it so completely everything in the movie was completely believable it was yeah absolutely there were no matter how far over the top they went it was like there was no top yeah yeah it's like you definitely know there's some crazy drug addict actors that act like Jack Black and they need their fix every you know whatever right every hours we got the method actors like Robert Downey Jr who are just overly into their roles right so much so that they that they they kill themselves they get they get so so intense you know you play a couple Heath Ledger was came to mind too you you play The Joker you don't come out that's why when I see child actors who play really heavy Parts I'm always really impressed because that's a real genuine little kid yeah and they're telling him you know be sad be happy you know do fight this kill that guy whatever they do and that child's had that experience already and then how does it how does it make him interact with everybody as they're going through life so the movie was thought-provoking that way and the music brought me to that a lot but um yeah I I really I think it's a masterpiece by any measure and uh that's that's I I don't think I probably Ben Stiller's best movie would you agree but Elevate him to a whole different level yeah because he directed the movie so every one of those jokes every one of those actors all those things were decisions that he made they did a scene he went no no no do do this fix that I didn't really think much of Ben Stellar I didn't you know he was he was just an actor and they had Owen Owen Wilson no Owen Wilson was not in this no no but no but he was like frienders you know he was like like how how Ben Affleck has so so yeah so those guys were making movies that I considered kind to be movies okay they weren't really the Masterpiece kind of things I don't know if they were in the Royal ten inbounds for some reason that just came to mind I thought that was especially funny okay so Fred you give it you give it a 10 of course I do I give it a 10 as well I think it's a great movie if you guys haven't seen Tropic Thunder please check it out it's hilarious you'll be laughing from the beginning to the end and I think that's it for for today what do you think Fred I I think we've talk plenty you definitely have thanks for watching the real generation gap as always please like comment and subscribe leave a comment let us know what movies you guys want us to review next my name is Shane schield Meer I am Fred ctii and thank you for watching the real generation gap check out our other episodes and we'll see you guys next time