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Do you already know Vicky Saner? Welcome, dear viewers, to a new episode of the Spiritual Conversation. We all like to know how life works. We sometimes wish for a consciousness school. And that's exactly what we're going to talk about today. And for that I have invited a wonderful guest again. But more about that after the intro. Welcome back, dear viewers. How does life work? Petra, I welcome you as a medium. As someone who used to work as a medium for the industry, for the board of directors. You wrote a book about it. My life as a medium. So you're sitting here with me today. That would certainly be an exciting topic. A consciousness school that teaches us how life works. Of course, we all learned how life works. We go to kindergarten, school, study. We have our conditioning in this Western-oriented materialistic worldview. What we have to do and what we don't have to do. How our mind erodes and implements things analytically. But does the mind also work with the plans of life? Exactly. I have dealt with this within the framework of my work for companies and for the industry. And because I also had a GmbH for bionics, biology and technology. Together with my then life partner. And there biological algorithms are studied to implement them into technology. And for me that was actually the beginning of a method that has developed over the years. And I'll try to put that into perspective. There are many spiritually conscious people who know a lot of things. And then you think to yourself, why can't they implement that in their lives? And that always moved me. Right at the beginning, when I started with medial life counseling, I personally suffered from the fact that I could explain everything to people. But I couldn't change their lives. They had to do that themselves. And many have been stuck in situations for years. I have always been fascinated, interested in how the change actually works. And I got this key through dealing with bionics, with cybernetics, with nature. I've always wandered deeper into that. Today it's called epigenetics. I've already dealt with that back then. And I've dealt with chemistry, with biology, with all the things that shape our bodies. Because we are, I'll put it this way, a soul that lives in this body. That's our car. And if we want to move our car somewhere else, then we have to know how it works. And I would say, it's not in the title, but I could have named it how our car works. We probably know that better than how we can really change things in our lives. That always fascinated me. People always have problems. Exactly. I actually say that if you plan your life with your mind, you unfortunately only get life in the mirror. Because the mind can only implement what it has learned so far. But life is usually, or I assume for all people, up and down. That means there are phases, new problems come to us, which we try to solve. Mostly with the mind. But often it doesn't work, because there are other problems that are dynamic. Relationship problems. Absolutely. Some problems come up again and again. You turn around and say, now I can do it again. Women say, now I have the same type of man again. Now I didn't want to get him at all. But again and again we have the same topic. And here you approach it differently. That's right. For me it was clear at some point that our body is like a living hard drive. Biocomputer. You said it so beautifully today. And it's about how I can change these storages, how I can change the programs, the patterns. How can I use the patterns to my advantage, for example? How can I even delete the storages? How does that work at all? And I'll give you a very placid, simple example. If I notice that there is a plant in my garden, that doesn't really bloom, what do I do? I dig it out and water it. I plant it somewhere else. Or I water it. What? Also. Of course, I try everything possible to shape its environment so that it grows and thrives. And with this topic, what can I actually do to shape my environment so that I grow and thrive? Or I have a great life and I ask myself, why do I always grow and thrive? Why is that actually possible? Why do I feel so good and everyone else has difficulties? I call that consciousness. So when I talk about consciousness school, then I see my personal contribution in being able to explain to people how it works. So how the outside influences stimulate their biocomputer, so to speak, in a negative but also in a positive sense. But first someone has to come to you. You probably have to read it. Let's put it this way. How does it work? I think an inspiration was already my first book. So I tried this knowledge that I had. You have to see, this has nothing to do with spiritual development, but actually really how I use my biocomputer, but let's stick to the word, to my well-being. That I grow and thrive. And which external influences, which impulses from the outside do me good and which don't. What can I do? So I wrote down the pure knowledge in this book back then. And the publisher, that was the first edition, helped me to simplify it so that it's not so scientific, but that everyone can understand it. And on the other hand, you can of course say, I'm doing a personal consultation. First of all, I want to know something about me as a being, as a soul, but also about my biocomputer. I'll call it that now. Let's make it concrete. A woman comes to you and says, I've tried everything, but somehow it doesn't work with the partnership. I always have a huge argument after three weeks and then it breaks up again. Exactly, then I go into her system, as I call it. So I connect with her field, with her energy field, and read the patterns there, but also by reconnecting. So I ask her a few things to be able to go deeper and discuss the existing pattern with her. And if she understands that, then we can also talk about whether she would be interested in working on it or changing something, or what is actually her current will, where it should go. You have to change it. The lady has to be ready to change a certain behavior pattern that is perhaps harmful, that she has not yet recognized. I wanted to say that. She also has to want it. This can lead to her saying, okay, if I see it under that premise and I understand everything now, then I enjoy the life I have much more. Or she says, oh yes, I am ready to really close with some things, to change something, and then we develop steps together where she can dive. I would say so now. So that she practically digs herself out of a situation and digs into a situation that is more nutritious for her. And I also describe this way, and we discuss it, and it is also really realizable, so very grounded. That is important. I think there must be living examples. It may be that she says, you have to dress differently, you have to speak differently, you no longer need to use certain words or in this situation you can perhaps correct this or that. I also come from psychology, from my training. You can do that with words, but often it is really about understanding, I create an environment where there is no food for a partnership, as I want it in this case. I then explain the whole environment to her. This can of course start with clothes, but also with rooms, with a circle of friends. I then go into the special situations and describe possibilities. It is so that the ego, the day-to-day consciousness, must also want. So there is a solution for everything. I sit here, I say, if someone really wants, everything is possible. It is just as much a healing as a change. But he just has to want. It probably depends on how big the suffering is already, right? Could be. Now I have to say, I myself came on this spiritual path out of curiosity. And I didn't have so much contact with customers who were really sick, if we are now talking about physical suffering. But many consciousness-oriented people came to me. So that's different again, because whoever has ever dealt with spirituality and consciousness, is actually waiting for the kick, that someone tells him how he can implement it in reality. That's the step we all want to take. Yes, to use other tools that we haven't thought of so far. That's right. So my specialty is not to go into contact with otherworldly contacts, or to get in touch with the spiritual leader, or to channel these soul contents, but how do I reach my goal from A to B? What things do I have to consider and how do I get there? So I have a very special way of doing it, as I am also in counseling. I am very goal-oriented. And as they say, a lid fits on every pot. That's just the way I am. Yes, if you say consciousness, school, how life works ... Then it is exactly this soiled ... Who finds you, who is looking for you and why does he come to you? That was just an example of the woman who can't find a partner, but ... Yes, you have to add that I am just starting out of my counseling existence, that I have led in companies, I wrote my second book, where I allowed myself to get into all the paranormal experiences. And now it is just starting. So I have different contact persons with whom I also discuss this consciousness school together. And for me it has something to do with fun. I am simply there for people who say, consciousness is my topic, that fascinates me, that interests me. I am open to new insights, especially for people who want to implement. So they say, I don't just want to know how the different aura levels interact with each other. I also want to move certain things with my consciousness in reality. And then I thought, this is going to be my next phase of life. I am already a little older. This fits the phase I am in. Yes, you know this kind of mental techniques, also from the sports field, top sport, where mental skills ... Yes, that's something else, that's something else. So you don't like it? Not at all. I am absolutely nature-scientifically oriented. How will our memory, our cell structure, I don't know how to call it spontaneously, how will it be influenced from the outside? And what can I do to create other influences and also other results? Bruce Lipton wrote about it, how you change and control cells through emotions. Exactly, exactly. And now the trend ... But that's also what the industry does, this intuition, you also approach it to switch through feelings into reality. When I am in this feeling of the winner, then I have a different run at 100 meters, I say, than when I am in the feeling of the loser. You are absolutely right. Yes, yes, yes, of course. So maybe it's my own claim not just to do mental exercises, like tip-axes. I now put the feeling of the winner over all my deficient feelings, but maybe I have a different claim. So just mental training would not be my thing. Exactly, because that's just a short-term feeling. Mental training is certainly ... You can make fundamental changes if someone wants to. Yes, above all, I am interested in consciousness and of course I can contribute to these people who feel the same way. I may be a little further on the mountain, I can already tell you what it looks like up here. And that makes me happy. But it also sounds very much like community or exchange. Yes, I am right at the beginning. I have just founded a small group and am just about to set it all up. Do you see the topic of consciousness or does it seem to become a topic of the mainstream? Yes, absolutely. Because brain research somehow doesn't really find out about consciousness, even if they scan the brain at night. Absolutely. And it will not be an epiphenomenon, but something fundamental. Consciousness, in the broadest sense, also has nothing to do with spirituality. No. That's another step. And, let's say, to have a certain religion, to believe in something that religions used to cover in our society, and to take a spiritual path, to take a path of development, does not yet have to be equated with the term consciousness. And consciousness, in my opinion, is becoming more and more part of our mainstream. How it is with the rest, I can't really judge that yet. Certainly also, but still a little more hidden. Provocative, how life works. You have in your book, you might see a rabbit here, he's trying to grab a carrot, which is hanging from his nose. These are the impulses. Impulses. That means, these impulses, that's how life works. That means, I have to go more to my heart or impulses, women would say, to intuition, which puts more in the foreground and less the mind, which I then take when the car drives, to turn properly, but not to drive the car on the right road. Yes, I think it's actually all there. To simply learn to perceive the impulse and to be useful to the whole thing with the mind, the implementation. So that's actually a perception training, because we all have that. We get, so really all people get impulses, but you can go into the leadership role with the mind. Then the mind leads the intuition. That's often the case with us and also in the wrong direction. We think we know it better. And that, very fine impulses, more and more, to give them more and more space, that they also have more space in life, that you trust it more and more and that the mind is useful to implement these paths. You can learn that, in my opinion. Okay. Many follow their intuition, not because they might say, no, their intuition, I suddenly want to become a baker, I have a lawyer's office, but I like baking bread so much. How are you going to deal with the client, who says, my passion is baking bread without end, but I can't open a bakery now, I have a big lawyer's office. Okay. So you mean what I would do, yes? Yes, yes, yes. If you say, okay, if you follow your intuition, you would be a happier, in quotation marks, probably a happier person. You might have the lawyer's office where you keep your new bread box. Yes, I know that. Of course, that's something completely different. So it works, if someone has a well-running lawyer's office, but at the same time knows that he would like to open a bakery. Then you have to look, how far has the path already gone apart? Is he ready to pay the price, to give up, to jump in there? Or is there even the possibility to build a parallel world? I got to know some entrepreneurs who had their law firm here, in quotation marks, their companies, and who at the same time found a way to serve their heart's desire and do holistic healing themselves or implement certain things in the spiritual, spiritual area and do both together. You have to apply that. So see how the customer, what he is suitable for, yes? How life works. 2,000 years of philosophy by the greatest thinkers of mankind, 2,000 years of science, 350 years of enlightenment, which explain to us how exactly these biological systems, how our metabolism works, what is real, what you can do, how we act in this society, in these structures, in this culture. It probably also always depends on what culture we grew up in. There is a good author who wrote a book about how culture comes into our heads. An Asian would act very differently than maybe we Westerners. We analyze it analytically. He says, okay, I have a completely different way of acting. How do you take that into account? So is there even the sentence how life works or is it always dependent on each individual? You are absolutely right. So how life works. I just wanted to see if I can find a drawing here. But maybe I can't find it. Let's say, in my advice, you have an aura, you have an energy field and from this energy field your body structure feeds, but also your life, so your environment. And for me it's always about understanding how I can imagine that I have so and so many energetic bodies that are connected to my chakra system, supposedly stored how my reality should look like. So your environment is a mirror of your inner self. I was about to say, I only mirror what's inside of me. So I'm not someone who discusses the cultural heritage with my customers, how it works all over the world or in the Asian space. Yes, but I always assume that we live now, in this life. In this life, the customer who comes now, has his own field. From this field, his body is created and also his environment and the resonances that build up there. The belief patterns, the actions, etc. They are all included there. But I wanted to say, it's not meant globally how life works. These are different systems. For me, the individual person is always first how your life works. Okay, that's a completely different approach. Basically, the title is wrong. How your life works, that's what it should be called. I'll put it this way. That's a different approach. Of course. I'm learning that now. Because everyone said certain things. One is the fortune teller. One is euphoric. The third is permanent. For him, the glass is always half-empty. Absolutely. For the man, it's half-full. One is motivated. The other is disoriented. Everyone has a certain character trait. In the world, when you have children, you know that every child is different. And you show them, if I understood it correctly, this potential that he actually has to use. Yes, exactly. It's actually always about how your life works or your life. Very personally. Because that's what you want. You want to solve this question mark for yourself. Who am I? How do I work? Why do I create certain resonances? Do I get out of there? Have I gone too far? Is there perhaps no way back at all? How does it work? That means, we go through different crises in life. There are these hermetic laws. Like above, like below. Exactly, exactly. Resonance law, etc. You know, when you're down, you go up again. But of course there are also situations in life that are perhaps difficult to process. What if someone says, I can't cope with the death of my partner? Or the death of my child? Would you also be the contact person? Yes, yes, yes. In the past, of course, I was more materialistic. But now it's usually the case that the deceased is already present when it comes to the question. So that I could perhaps explain the reason why this death was now useful. Or what it means in the life of the one who passed away. And what it means in the life of the one who has to let go, who has to let the other go. And through this, through understanding and through consciousness, peace often returns. Do people already accept these things? Because we are now talking about things beyond the tangible, outside of classical science, outside of our worldview. There is an immense level of interpretation. That is, we have public officials who say, what is the state of science here? And the rest is, so to speak, conversation. A scientist said to me, there are our five senses, and the sixth sense is nonsense. Do you mean whether people accept it or whether there are enough customers? Yes, whether humanity or many people dare to tackle this topic beyond the tangible. Yes, I found it interesting. We have talked about it for a long time. My world has very different experiences in many areas than you have. Since I fell into the pot like Obelix, I always say. After these out-of-body experiences and everything else, I have only come across such people. I would say today, but that is ... I just have this resonance. For me, how many scientists I have met, especially the executives in the companies, that totally impressed me. Or, yes, recently I had a family experience where there was also a funeral. And even there, I could speak completely openly. I think that shows me that I am very open there. I think every person has the knowledge that the body is not everything he has. And for some inexplicable reason, I have very few people who are suspicious or don't want to believe it. That's not part of my resonance. Maybe you just have ... These people who are open, you meet them and they are easier to advise. As if you had to do the pre-work to get them there. Absolutely! But what I can think of, you also have an entrepreneurial life behind you. And what happened to me, I still know, the entrepreneurs I was allowed to advise, they had this openness to me, but in their life, in the environment, they had little exchange about these topics. I know that too. If you lead a normal life as an entrepreneur, you have little to talk about such topics. Maybe it's a good idea to give more space to these broadcasts about this exchange, this communication, this platform, to exchange people with many life advisors. But we couldn't help them because they only offered the standard solutions. And maybe you have another approach. Yes, exactly. In any case, I have these two things in view for my next life section. Of course, I still give advice. That's clear. It's like being an athlete. Of course, it doesn't work without it. I would like to provide this knowledge to a larger group. Because that has changed a lot in the last few years. The interest has become so great. Petra. We're already at the end again. We could talk about it for a long time, how life works, how our life works, how your life works, how my life works. I hope that the viewers say that this is exciting. Let's see what happens, how open our society will be for these topics. Thank you for being here again at the Spiritual Conversation. I hope that you will turn on again next time when we talk about the topic of consciousness. Exactly. Thank you. How life works. Thank you, Petra.