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Do you already know Vicky Sanna? Welcome, dear viewers, to our format, the meaning of life. Today, we continue with the third part of brain tuning, and today it is about the sound, what it does for our health, and how we can use the sound for our healing, for our fitness. And no one could explain it better than Joshua Koberg. He is a neuroscientist and has been researching and developing in this area for over 26 years. Stay tuned. Hello, dear Joshua, it's nice to have you back with us, with this, of course, an elementary important topic for all of us, health. And I'm looking forward to it, because it has always fascinated me, the conversations, the comprehensive knowledge that you have, and how the technique is connected with all body, spirit and soul. It's nice to have you here. Thank you. Yes, you mentioned that sound can be healing, and that our voice also means a lot, of course. And yes, I'm curious to see how we get into this. With pleasure. I would like to give the audience a picture of the way. If we imagine that we would go for a walk in the forest now, maybe a nice early summer day, we hear a stream of leaves, we have the rustling of the wind in the leaves, and we hear such high bird voices, then, I think, a feeling arises in everyone who has just thought about it. And that would be the basis to give an image of why sound can be health-promoting, and why it can of course also be disease-promoting. You can also imagine that you sit in the office for eight hours next to a pressurized air hammer and are totally annoyed. Then you would say, okay, that really brings me out of my comfort zone, then I'm no longer in the mood. But let's go back to the forest, this forest walk, this rustling, this rustling of the leaves, these are actually all just frequencies, no more and no less. And if we look at this feeling, we can perfectly imagine how sound affects the human body. If you tell me the example, I was at the sea for a few days, and it calmed me down so incredibly well, this gentle wave movement, and it was so beautiful. And I was also in a wonderful, relaxed mood so quickly, and that's when I first really noticed it. And that just reminded me of how healing sound can really be. And you develop a lot of different things, and of course there are sounds that are healing for all of us, but then maybe also a personal sound that shows even more effect for us. How is that? Yes, absolutely. As you say, there are effective sounds for everyone. So that would be, for example, natural sounds or a sea rustle. That's a great example. You can technically disassemble that. Then, for example, you would speak of a so-called pink rustle for most frequencies in a sea rustle. So there is pink, white rustle, blue rustle, and maybe bending down a bit into the brain, what happens when we hear frequencies. Because we always think we hear something, and that would be sea rustle now. Or we talk, we speak in German now, and we think we hear German. But in fact, the background in the brain is like this. We get sound waves to the outer ear, and they are then processed into a 0.1 encoding in the inner ear by hammer, ambos, the auditory cortex, and so on. So similar to how a computer actually communicates. And then this 0.1 encoding goes over the auditory nerve, so to speak, to our brain. And something fascinating is happening there now. In our brain, we put these actually abstract 0.1 signals together via the memory of a sound. So that means we remember something, and now we remember the German language, that's why we understand each other more or less. There is such a beautiful saying by Watzlawick, the biggest mistake in communication is to believe it would have worked. But in fact, when I now perceive such a sea rustle, it balances the electrical activity of the brain. And that's incredibly fascinating. That is, basic rustling, simple sounds, simple tones have a harmonious, balanced effect on the brain. And now, of course, the next effect is when my brain balances itself in the activity, then my nervous system automatically balances itself. Because that's directly connected to the auditory cortex. That means when the auditory cortex is calm, in a calm, relaxed situation, the nervous system can balance itself, especially the vegetative nervous system. So we're not on the run and we're not fighting, we're just being. That's how you could describe it. And the fascinating thing is, when I create this state via sound, because I sit on the sea, then I get a physical regulation, a physical relaxation. And that, on the other hand, is the basis for health. So that's not a hocus-pocus at all, it's actually totally simple. I sit on the sea, or I enjoy the rustling of the wind in the leaves and I get a physical effect. There are an incredible number of studies on the subject. Totally exciting. And what about when, for example, a person is really sick, right? Then he could come to you and, through his voice analysis, really develop a specific sound or sound for him, or I don't know what it is. Exactly. That would be the king class, so to speak. So with my individual, every person has an individual sound, an individual tone. We call it the base tone for us. And with this tone, I can be very health-promoting. With a, let's say, normal person, it is also possible to find this tone within half an hour. So we developed an app for this. Then I do an analysis of my voice and in the end I get my base tone. If I have a very sick person now, who may already be very sick physically, a cancer disease or any long-term illness, there are many such topics at the moment, then it may really be that I can't determine the base tone. And here I can then approach it with a global healing tone. So that means we have developed a system, even if I don't immediately find my base tone, I can still work with the power of my voice. And then it may be that I do a training for 8 weeks, maybe 16 weeks. And after this training, my base tone is very easy to determine. And then it gets really interesting. Then I can raise the self-healing to another level. So sound is actually in connection with healing, because we bring the system into balance. And you can't find the base tone, because there is so much stress in the body. And if you say there is a program, but that's coaching with you, can you do that online or do you have to go there on site? How does that work? No, it actually works online. Because of this need, we are a relatively small team. My wife and I started this year. Today we are on the road with 19 employees and we can no longer serve the demand. That's why we brought a free video course online a few months ago, where you can simply work with this universal base tone, with this healing tone. It doesn't cost money, it costs time. You have to invest the time. There are 3-4 videos that Simone and I recorded. We go exactly through the principle. We explain everything, how it works. You can also set your base tone free of charge, if you want to. But you don't have to. You can actually work with the videos first and get a feeling whether this work with sound really suits you. I always say that 97% of people react very positively. The other 3% are too creative for this. They don't want to work with their voice. And that's completely legitimate. But the majority likes to work with it. And to answer all these questions, to make an experience possible, we set up this free video training. That's great. And you can download it via our homepage? Exactly. It's best to just google my name and then the self-healing course. I think you should go there directly. But there is also a link to it on our website. Would you like to give the link? So we don't forget it. Our website is KOSYS. K-O-S-Y-S. Kobergsystems is the name of my company. KOSYS.com And then you just need a slash and then the self-healing course. And then you get there. Then you have full access to the videos. As I said, it's completely free of charge. And you can develop a feeling whether it works well for you. I will definitely try it. Because I'm already so fascinated by it. And are there any scientific studies on this? Because I know that many people, well, for me, the feeling lights up completely. And I'm all for it. I can do without it. You have already experienced it yourself by the sea and with these sounds. But I also know that many people really like to want a scientific proof. And is that already experienced? The work with it? Absolutely. One of the most impressive studies. I also come from science. I'm also such a number freak. I have changed my orientation a bit in recent years and have become a bit softer. But I'm still such a person who always wants to put everything with numbers under butter. I come from a technical corner in my first professional life. In my second professional life, I studied neuroscience. I do a lot of EEG measurements. I do HRV measurements. These are such valid values that always interest me. But we have a very impressive study. I think it would fit best here. We did a study with this base tone and the neon in combination with people who had insomnia. And the requirement was, this was carried out at the University of Mainz, and now I'm not quite sure anymore, but I think the requirement was more than 10 years of insomnia. And really chronic. It wasn't someone who said, well, I don't sleep well now. There were very interesting people. But I was also allowed to get to know some of them personally, because I was there once at the university. For example, there was a lady who was a professional firefighter who worked in a three-shift business for 16-17 years. She also said that her insomnia hadn't changed for 15 years, although she had tried some drugs. She had tried everything she could find. And then we went there and made a base tone determination with these people. This analysis of the voice. And with half of them it was not possible to determine the base tone. Because, of course, an insomnia over the years leads to a total mood swing. It's actually logical. So what we offer in this free video course, they have been toning every day for 10 minutes. And they also carried the NEOS. This is a technical solution that was added. And within these 8 weeks the sleep problems reduced by 63% on average. The result was so fulminant for the university in Mainz that it is now being carried on in Frankfurt. Because they said, I was not so deeply involved in the topic of sleep disorders, but Professor Schöllhorn, who led it, said that normally when someone goes on a cure for 8 weeks, where he changes his behavior, he has daily sessions, he does sports, he changes an incredible amount in this 8-week cure, the average is that you are really happy when he reduces 20% of his sleep disorders So we were at over 60%. And now comes the real hammer, that at the same time the stress level was increased and they reduced their chronic stress level by over 30%. But we are only talking about working 10 minutes with your own voice once a day. So for someone who has a pain area, it's not a problem at all to use the 10 minutes. But it's also important to create awareness. So when I work for a few weeks with such a sound therapy, then I become more and more aware that it is still always homemade. So that means my sleep problems, my health problems, I create awareness and I understand that I have to look at my corpse in the basement somewhere. We don't have to, but we have to look at our own corpses in the basement. I am very fascinated by that because I know, I also worked in hospitals and in psychiatry, that sleep disorders are a topic that is everywhere. And everything that comes after that, that you are actually limited in all your activities and qualities. And that in itself is an incredible story and that you should really make accessible to people. And then I have another question, you say that people develop more awareness, is that simply because when you are more at rest, the focus is opened again and you have another access? So through this active work with your own voice, we can get back to the initial picture. If I take a 20-30 minute walk without having my smartphone with me, without talking to my partner, but I alone as Joshua walk through the forest for 30 minutes and enjoy the sound, then I automatically come to me. And there are different words, I am outside me or I am with me. I am powerless, I am powerful. So I can play that now as I want. In fact, it is one of the greatest goals in human development to come to yourself. And then I also recognize what topics I am running on. And there are so many different topics and each of us has, as I said, his own topics and the more aware I become, that doesn't mean that I have to solve everything. In a few weeks it is impossible. But just to say hey, I'm developing a feeling for myself, an awareness for myself, that's a great step forward for every person. Yes, and when you come back to the empowerment, to recognize what it is at all, what works for stress and tries to survive, you don't have any own strength anymore or ideas to cope with it. And if you already recognize it and can't always act as you may have already recognized, it's just a step. And that's an incredibly important step. And what it all entails, I am really so touched and it's nice when people can really work with it. Did you also work with psychiatric clinics or psychiatrists? Because there I would also see such a huge field, because there really is always everything with a lot of being out of yourself, with a lot of stress, with really not recognizing yourself or not being in your own empowerment anymore. It always goes one way and I could think that there could also be a lot of suffering. Basically, yes. Practically, unfortunately, no. Because we are not doctors. Simone and I have both completed the same degree and we do cognitive neuroscience. So we don't treat in that sense. But provide it, right? Exactly. We have a network in Germany, Austria and Switzerland with almost 800 doctors who work with our systems. They actually also really take care of people with diseases. We as a company, we focus on healthy people who just want to get into a better state with brain tuning. So who just want to learn faster, who want to improve their health. But with us, no one would find themselves with a cancer disease that we take care of. But this person can of course work with our systems always under the supervision of a doctor. And there we have, as I said, a really good network. That's great. And if doctors or even institutions would be interested in this, they would also offer you support so that it could be adapted. And you could also get that via the website you mentioned earlier. Because I think there is really so much in there. Because by now we all know how forest bathing, how healthy it is, or running by the sea. But then you don't always have the opportunity, right? Or if you are in big cities or if the effort would be so great to go into the agglomeration and into the forest, you don't do it. But if you had such an opportunity, that would be great. Absolutely. And you can use it in everyday life. So this sound with your own voice or such a tone over the skin, just swing in for a few hours a day. I can do that when I drive. So of course I miss the visual of the forest. I miss the movement in the forest. But when I sit in the car and activate my speech center with such frequencies, then I am more relaxed when driving. And that's better than driving a tense car. It's not the solution I would experience in the forest, but it's a technical gadget that I can use to feel better. Yes, and that's already a huge, huge gift for all people. And this base tone also goes over a watch or over the skin. Exactly. I can transfer it over the skin or I can actively use my own voice to tone it. So with the free video course we have set up, of course there is no NEOS. But the exercise, the pure exercise, the active toning, Simone is exactly for that. You experience it, you can try it directly in front of your own computer and test it. And you can do that for the rest of your life if you want, with this free course. So there are also mp3 files, you can copy them to your cell phone, then you can even do it on the go. So it's completely easy to implement. You also have to, because I am always asked again and again, well, I have to sing or something, because I was very bad at music. So very relaxed. It has nothing to do with singing. It's actually a kind of mantra. It also comes from the Indian. You go in a glissando glissando So that's how it sounds. It's actually a mixture between language and flowing singing, I'll say. So anyone can do it. I'm not a musical person either, so be it. Yes, that's great to really get in there and also feel what it does to you. And now it's like this. You are already very experienced, you said. Are there any people you have trained who are also interlocutors, maybe in other countries, or is it all about you? Exactly, it's all about us on the website. We simply communicate the contacts. Ah, yes, but that also exists. Exactly, we have trained voice analytics. Simone did all of this in the past. But she has now gone completely back to the field of research. But we have analytics who also conduct analysis talks. As I said, we also have therapists to whom we can communicate. But a lot of it is also self-explanatory. So you don't have to force anyone to talk to us. If you say you just want to try it out, as I said, you can take a video course. We have an app that you can download. Then you are also guided step by step. So it's really relatively simple to use the whole thing. Great. And of course it also makes sense for me that many situations with dentists, for example, who are not designed for stress causes, you could just let such a tone run in practice and people are calmed down. Do you do something like that or is it used? Exactly, we even do that. We actually also have dentists who have the NEOS in use. So especially for anxiety patients. And then it's like this. They come into practice, sometimes have 20-30 minutes of waiting time. Then they already get the NEOS, then they have to sit on the chair again until the injection works and so on. And then they already have half an hour, three quarters of an hour. So within 8 to 15 minutes the brain halves synchronize and thus stress patterns and also fears are reduced. So especially in such extreme situations you can incredibly perceive NEOS and base tone. You can really feel how it works. But that's great. It's one of the unexpected possibilities how you can really help people in such a comprehensive way. And not just a distraction or an exaggeration, but it really synchronizes our system and we come into a different state. And then all the possibilities open up again. Yes, that's really a great possibility. We have already mentioned where people can reach you. And I am sure, you will be very fascinated and I will go even deeper. It was so comprehensive again and so well explained. And for me, as a non-technical person, so well understandable. And it's really a wonderful possibility for today. Great that you are so committed to the health of people in this way. And I'm looking forward to the next episodes with you. Thank you very much. Dear viewers, I am still full of ideas where you could use it everywhere and I will definitely try it for myself. I hope you could also get something out of this show. Thank you for watching.