Former President Donald Trump is facing another criminal indictment. This time, he’ll face charges relating to the 2020 election and the Capitol breach on Jan. 6, 2021. Mr. Trump is vowing to show his side of the evidence during the trials, including with aggressive requests for information through discovery and by calling in witnesses.
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Good morning everyone and good to see you all here again.
Checking the link for the site.
Look, is it down or something?
We will see.
Regardless, there's a lot to talk about.
Sorry I've been out.
I had a strange thing with my eye for a couple days.
But as you can see, it's all better now.
So everything's okay.
One sec.
Yeah, checking the Epic TV link.
It's down, I think, for some reason.
Well, folks, here we are again.
Trump is being indicted.
No, you're not living in Groundhog Day.
No, you don't need to make the right choices
to go to the next day and get out of the cycle we're in.
No, they're just doing the same thing
over and over again, unfortunately.
And this time, they might actually get him this time.
Now, I'm not saying that tongue in cheek.
I think they found a way where they can prosecute Trump,
which is they basically cobble together fake charges.
I think this whole thing is a bunch of nonsense.
I'll explain to you how they're doing it.
They're gonna put it in a DC court.
The judge is a total political hack
who has obvious bias against Trump,
who should recuse herself if this had any semblance
of legitimacy or any semblance of actual law and order,
which it does not.
The judge is probably not gonna recuse herself.
The judge is known to be one of the toughest,
one of the toughest on the J6 defendants.
And just like with other people
who try to defend themselves,
people in other cases were forbidden
from showing certain types of evidence.
People in other cases were unable
to get exculpatory evidence.
People in other cases were unable
to even show their side of the story.
And I know that Trump's saying,
hey, I'm gonna, he's saying, hey, there we are.
Trump's saying now that, hey, he's gonna, of course,
he's gonna try to show his side of the evidence.
It's really doubtful whether the judge is gonna allow it
because the judge is a corrupt political hack.
I'm just saying it.
Anyways, let's jump into what's happening
because regardless of anything, ironically,
this is probably gonna help Trump, ironically.
Trump could campaign from prison.
They might try to throw him in prison.
I don't know how they're gonna do it,
given the fact that a former president
has to have Secret Service detail,
which means either they'd have to put him in house arrest
or they'd have to put him in solitary
or some kind of protective custody
with a Secret Service detail outside of the room,
like Secret Service prison guards.
He's gonna be like Napoleon on his island
and just like Napoleon on his island,
who, of course, swam and then became leader once again,
Trump actually can still campaign even from behind bars
if it comes down to it.
Let me explain.
Start from the top.
Let's go over the charges first.
This is the indictment.
He's gonna face charges today, just so y'all know.
One of them is conspiracy to defraud the United States
and I'll, stick with me.
I'll explain what all these mean.
We'll dig into this, I'll explain it all.
Conspiracy to defraud the United States,
conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding,
which is a ridiculous charge.
That was the charge they rolled out for Enron.
It was about destroying evidence,
not about like interfering with the electoral college.
It's a cobbled together fake charge
that has never been used in this,
nor was it ever designed to be used like this.
They're making up charges basically,
but this is of course what they were using
to go after the J6ers.
Obstruction of and attempt to obstruct
an official proceeding.
Sorry.
These are previously non-existent crime.
Nobody has ever been charged with this stuff.
Like this is again, stuff they made around Enron.
This was designed around corrupt businesses
trying to destroy evidence, not people interrupting,
you know, because they're protesting,
interrupting a government proceeding of some kind.
Like you could argue that people interrupting
a city hall meeting could be hit with this charge
because it was never meant to be used like this,
nor has it ever been used like this.
This is the Democrats making something illegal
that was never illegal, basically.
This is them faking a charge,
and they've of course used it to go after the J6ers,
but stick with me.
Obstruction of and attempt to obstruct
an official proceeding and conspiracy against rights.
Let me explain.
The irony with this is actually,
if Trump ever comes back into power,
if we ever get a actual law and order leader,
the Democrats have actually committed to all these crimes.
Technically, most of them could go to prison
for the rest of their lives,
as they're trying to do to Trump.
Barack Obama, Joe Biden, most of their cabinets,
even some members of the media, possibly.
Many of them, a ridiculous number of them,
could go to prison for like 400, 500 years
if someone were to replicate the same charges against them.
Because with Trump-Russia,
the whole faking of the Trump-Russia thing,
with the incitement, for example,
of protests all around the nation, BLM and Antifa,
with, for example, even their attempts to get electors
with the Electoral College to cast opposite votes
to what they had been elected to do,
which is what the conspiracy against rights charge is.
It's about the dueling electors.
They did all of that.
Hollywood actors, mainstream news outlets,
most leaders of the Obama administration,
most of the Democrat Party, in fact, all of them did this.
And if you ever get a law and order leader coming in
who wants some good old-fashioned vengeance,
they can charge, use these exact same charges against them,
and throw them in prison for the rest of their lives,
which is a dumb move on behalf of the Democrats,
because this is a politicized charge,
let's be honest with ourselves.
A dumb move on behalf of them,
making up new crimes and setting notably precedents
in order to roll these out.
They're basically making it so that they can,
in the future, be charged for the exact same things,
and notably be charged in a way
that actually would align with reality,
unlike what they're doing to Trump.
But let me explain.
Now, Republicans are claiming that this criminalizes
the act of questioning the outcome of an election,
and of questioning the deep state.
They're saying that essentially
what the Democrats are doing is they're making it
so it is a criminal, prosecutable crime
where you can go to prison for the rest of your life.
If an elected leader, a president, a mayor,
any elected position questions the outcome of an election.
And they're saying as well that even doubting
the power of the deep state,
even questioning their legitimacy publicly,
if that leads to protest and so on,
that this is now criminalized.
You could go to prison for 500 years.
Now, the indictment itself,
I read the whole thing yesterday,
the indictment itself suggests that it's only legal.
It's only legal to question or challenge an election
within certain legal boundaries.
They're saying that you can call for a recount,
you can call for an audit.
But they're saying that actions beyond that,
then you're in unknown territory.
And if that leads to protests,
if it leads to you trying to get dueling electors,
if it leads to you doing these other things
that you're alleging Trump did,
well, then you're committing a crime.
Let me explain a bit more.
I wanna go into this a bit.
Real quick, by the way,
I'm gonna be doing a live broadcast later today
with my colleague, Steve Lance at NTD
for the Trump indictment.
So we'll be broadcasting from 3.30 to 5.30 p.m. live.
That'll replace tonight's show,
but they'll re-air it as well.
So tune in live again, 3.30 to 5.30.
We'll be covering this whole thing as it happens,
and I'll give you all updates.
And of course, we'll have a lot more time.
We can go in depth into it.
I'll give more of my opinions.
But let me continue this.
Trump has indicted on four counts
on the 2020 election case, basically.
And this is how they're charging him.
This is how they're making their case.
They're cobbling together several different instances.
Now, remember, we were expecting Trump to face charges
in addition to everything else, right?
Classified documents, the fake Stormy Daniels thing.
You know, who knows what else they might come out with.
Maybe he spoke angrily at his dog one time.
You know, who knows?
Who knows what they might try to charge him with?
But this is how they're doing it, okay?
They're taking several of these charges
and cobbling them together
to create the illusion of a conspiracy.
And so they're taking his, for example,
the Georgia case, the J6 case,
they're taking these things
and they're cobbling them together.
The way they're doing it is they're saying,
it's the charge, for example, one,
that Trump knowingly lied.
And that's actually gonna be one thing
they're gonna have to prove.
They're gonna have to prove that Trump did this knowingly.
I should note, they're probably gonna find him guilty
because the judge is a political hack.
The judge should recuse herself
under any normal circumstance.
And it's frankly ridiculous that the Justice Department
is allowing this to go forward
with the judge they've chosen.
They're gonna find him guilty no matter what,
I'll tell you right now.
There's almost no possible way
Trump is gonna get a fair trial.
Almost no possibility with this,
given the established political bias and personal bias
that the judge has, which should lead her to recuse herself.
And I doubt she's gonna do it.
Even then, with the current Justice Department,
it's doubtful whether anything would happen.
Although Trump will probably appeal it
and you're gonna watch this drag on
for probably like a couple years, realistically.
Long enough at least to get past the 2024 elections.
And then maybe they'll have whoever,
if Trump doesn't get in, have whoever gets in,
pardon him because the nation needs healing, watch.
But this is how they're doing it.
They had to prove that Trump knowingly lied.
It can be very hard to do.
They're gonna have to prove that Trump
knowingly misled the nation about the election,
claiming the election was rigged.
And notably, according to the indictment,
they claim that Trump, that his lie was that
there was enough rigging or enough foul play
to have changed the outcome of the elections.
That's the technicality.
So not only are they saying that,
they're acknowledging that there was probably
some anomalies and there were some issues
and you hear Mike Pence saying this.
You hear a lot of people saying it.
They'll acknowledge, yes,
there were problems with the election.
Yes, it was a strange time of 2020
with COVID-19 and lockdowns,
but there was not enough to have altered
the outcome of the election.
That's the narrative.
They're gonna have to prove that Trump knew that
and lied about it, claiming that there was enough
to have altered the outcome of the elections.
That's one.
They had to say that Trump lied.
Trump tried to deprive people of their right to vote
by encouraging dueling electors,
so after, of course, and also of launching investigations.
So Trump's investigations are being framed as a crime.
His calling for the Justice Department
to launch investigations into the elections and so on,
they're criminalizing that.
They're saying that it is the dueling electors,
because seven states had dueling electors,
which notably there's Democrat-established precedence for.
Actually, dueling electors have been accepted in the past,
but they're making that a crime.
And they're also saying that Trump tried to disrupt
the counting of the Electoral College votes
by encouraging the January 6th protests,
thereby depriving, it was a conspiracy against rights,
depriving people of their right to vote.
And so they're combining these
in order to create this big conspiracy case, essentially.
That's how they're doing it.
Let's jump over to Epoch TV exclusively,
because when I'm talking about the elections
and stuff like that, YouTube likes to ban me,
and give me a strike, which they've done several times.
If you get three at a time,
they actually delete your whole channel.
I've gone much further beyond that, I believe,
but they clear after a certain amount of time.
But I don't like getting them,
because I can't post for a couple weeks.
So let's jump over to Epoch TV,
where we can say whatever the heck we want.
And join me on Epoch TV again.
We have flash sales going on.
Watch the rest of this episode.
We have our live broadcasts.
We have Trump's speeches.
We have stuff that I can't show you on YouTube,
because they delete it.
And I can show you evidence, ironically,
of the thing that would prove Trump's innocence,
which I cannot show you on YouTube,
because they're part of the political hack system.
Join us on Epoch TV, and I will see you there.
Folks, thank you for being here.